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Free Will is a Delusion
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[quote:Zaphod Beeblbrox 83027:MV8yNjUxNTdfNDcwMjExMl8zQzZGM0RDQg==] http://www.dhushara.com/pdf/hard.pdf Didn't our resident self appointed geniuses read the link I posted? It PROVES your little laws do not apply to consciousness. You cannot apply a law based on Quantum mechanics to something that lies outside the laws of Quantum mechanics. Consciousness does not fit within the framework. Until such time as it does, and someone reconciles the problem, your little conundrum does not apply. Of course this will never happen but I leave you with that little straw to clutch at. Read the link. The author attempts to build a quantum consciousness and does a pretty good job of explaining why it doesn't work. [/quote]
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Premise 1: Physics shows that all events are either caused or random.
Premise 2: All human actions are events.
Conclusion: All human actions are either caused or random.
If human actions are caused, they are not freely chosen. If they are random, they are also not freely chosen.
And we cannot say that human actions are "caused by free choice" to save the concept of free will, for "free choice" itself is either caused or random.
"Free will" is either a misunderstanding of causation or a misunderstanding of randomness. It is not real, and is thus either an illusion or a delusion, depending on your view of how useful the fiction is.
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