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Free Will is a Delusion
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 119568:MV8yNjUxNTdfNDY4MjE5MF9FMTk0NEU4Qg==] [quote:Sol Invictus] Not bad for a logical approach to the question of free will, Naturyl... but it's possible to have two premises that are correct, yet have a false conclusion. Premise 1: All german shepherds are dogs Premise 2: All dogs are mammals Conclusion: All mammals are dogs. :hmm: But your logic is better than that, of course. Somewhere along the line (arguing for the sake of freewill) you probably made a mistake. I'd say that it was your first premise that was faulty... you rely on an imperfect understanding of physics, since humans haven't figured it all out yet. Free will is still an option, even if I personally think it's not all that common :P Cause & Effect rules most of the world, granted. [/quote] Wouldn't the conclusion found by your premise 1 and 2 be. All german shepherds are mammals. [/quote]
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Premise 1: Physics shows that all events are either caused or random.
Premise 2: All human actions are events.
Conclusion: All human actions are either caused or random.
If human actions are caused, they are not freely chosen. If they are random, they are also not freely chosen.
And we cannot say that human actions are "caused by free choice" to save the concept of free will, for "free choice" itself is either caused or random.
"Free will" is either a misunderstanding of causation or a misunderstanding of randomness. It is not real, and is thus either an illusion or a delusion, depending on your view of how useful the fiction is.
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