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Moon Landing hoax? Debunking the Debunkers?
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[quote:Halcyon Dayz, FCD:MV8yODY1NjdfNzY0OTI4OTJfQzBDMzlDQzI=] [quote:Canatard 47752129:MV8yODY1NjdfNzY0Mzc3OTRfNUY5Mjk2NTk=] This guy Halcyon just goes round in circles. You can't pin him down on anything because he DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING. [/quote] Maybe you are not asking the right questions. [quote:Canatard 47752129:MV8yODY1NjdfNzY0Mzc3OTRfNUY5Mjk2NTk=] What Heavy Lifter rocket would they use, Halcyon, if they were to replicate the Apollo missions today? [/quote] NOBODY is going to replicate Apollo. NOBODY is going to send people to the Moon [i]today.[/i] [quote:Canatard 47752129:MV8yODY1NjdfNzY0Mzc3OTRfNUY5Mjk2NTk=] Assuming they had the money, which you say is the problem (and 'lack of political will', whatever that is). [/quote] They would have needed the funding and proper political support years ago. Nobody pulls off a major space programme, or even a very little one, in an afternoon. What's wrong with you? You keep failing to explain how this is [i]relevant[/i] to your accusations. [quote:Canadard 47752129:MV8yODY1NjdfNzY0NDAyNjlfOEY4N0QwNjk=] Let me give but one example. I said that the Apollo Program was used as a distraction from things like Nixon closing the Gold Window and disclosure of Vietnam War atrocities. "This is an ASSertion, not a proven fact. Do you even understand the difference?" Halcyon Dayz says. Well... Actually it is a fact that US government held off telling the public about the My Lai massacre, that happened in 1968 (!!!) until after Apollo 11, and just two weeks or so before Apollo 12! And it is also a FACT that Nixon closed the Gold Window less than two weeks after Apollo 15! Closer to one week, really, if you look at when the mission ended and the craft 'returned from the Moon' was recovered. Facts. Not assertions. [/quote] Correlation =/= causation. Logic: how does it work? The US has so many scandals you could link everything with everything. "Happened in the same week" is not prove one thing has to do with the other. And you keep failing to explain how this is [i]relevant[/i] to your accusations. Using Apollo as a distraction doesn't require Apollo to be faked, it merely needs to happen. [quote:Canadard 47752129:MV8yODY1NjdfNzY0NDAyNjlfOEY4N0QwNjk=] The 'Great Grain robbery' is also a fact. Did you know that the US transferred billions of dollars, in the form of subsidized grain, to the SOVIET UNION immediately after the conclusion of the Apollo Program! [/quote] How could a mere 10 million tonnes of wheat be worth billions? And all exported wheat was subsidised. And you keep failing to explain how this is [i]relevant[/i] to your accusations. The Soviet Union doesn't even exist anymore. The current generation would have no reason to sit on such juicy info. All this is just speculation, innuendo, and arguments from ignorance. It's not proof. It isn't even evidence. Evidence needs to be true, and relevant. As in, it actually proves that something was faked. Half a century and still nada. :book: [/quote]
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In an effort to be fair minded, and seeking the truth...check out:-
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link to www.badastronomy.com
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Personally i still have my doubts.
-especially after bart sabrell's video.
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link to video.google.com
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What do you all think?
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