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The Christian trinity is an idol.
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To serve the true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob you need to reject the trinity idol. [/quote] [b]Why should I?[/b] Jesus stated that He is the way the truth and the life. Jesus stated he would die to save me and resurrect to prove to me and give me eternal life. Jesus stated all who seek GOD will come to him. John 6:45 It is written in the Prophets: 'They will all be taught by God.' Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me. You have not come to him because you do not have GOD. But it is not to late! [/quote] Because the one you pretend to follow told you to. [i]23 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the [b]true worshipers[/b] will worship the [b]Father[/b] in spirit and truth, for the [b]Father[/b] is seeking such people to worship him. 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”[/i] John 4:23-24 http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3269826/pg1 [/quote] Yes and he told you to come to him! So go to him..... to worship in Spirit and truth. [/quote] so do you agree jesus is only a messenger sent by the father to point to father but, jesus is NOT a deity to be worshipped? jesus in not co equal with the father? do you agree? [/quote] John 5:40 [b][u][color=red]yet you refuse to come to me to have life.[/color][/u][/b] I go to Jesus to have life! God draws me to Jesus ONLY! [/quote] no straight answer... [/quote] I did you just don't understand [/quote] dont project. [/quote] dont reject Jesus won't reject you if you come to him. Come to Jesus :) [/quote] do you worship the Messiah? do you see it as deity co equal with the father? if so... then I cant follow you, I'd be breaking the first and second commandments. [/quote] I go to Jesus only and none other! JESUS alone and none other. You can call that what you want to call that. There is no other person that can save you other then him JESUS! [/quote] G-d says no other besides him. G-d says there is no savior but him. so... you do see jesus as G-d. that means you are breaking the first and second commandments, you are an idolater and wont have a place in the world to come (kingdom) I am sorry, that you are not wise and courages enough to rise above this brainwashing done to you by rome and churchianity, because even your jesus said he is not G-d. [/quote] No worries man :) I have seen to many signs and wonders to know the Lord and he is JESUS. The God that I WORSHIP became a man 'temporarily' and I thank him for doing this to save me. But it is not that aspect that Christians worship. It is his new name through JESUS whom God is forever and ever that I worship. For my God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. You can claim I worship a second GOD but it is the same GOD that I worship. Because you simply do not understand. Come to JESUS because he is forever!!!! [/quote] So why did the one you call God call the God of Abraham his God? [/quote] Because the human form of God cannot deny the true form of GOD. His human form was just temporary to live in 'perfect' obedience in order to die for us to save us. [/quote] What ridiculous nonsense. What religion is this? Jesus explicitly identified the Father as YHWH, and himself as not being YHWH. [i]God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?[/i] Numbers 23:19 [/quote] Not a man......became a man. Big.....big difference. And he became a 'man' for our sake! John 14:9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? God is still GOD despite 'becoming' a human for a brief time period. You simply can not grasp this. [/quote] God does not change, and even the NT says God is spirit (John 4:24). And Jesus is not and never claimed to be YHWH. And the Greek word translated as see, horao, as has a figurative meaning of perceiving, knowing or experience; the entire passage is about knowing God through Jesus (what was manifest). Again, what religion is this? Your own take of modalistic Christianity or Oneness Pentecostalism? [/quote] It is simply God becoming a human to die for me and resurrect. And that human is Jesus, he has saved me from my sins. JESUS CHRIST is BOTH LORD and SAVIOR. [/quote] God is not human and does not change. Lord, kyrios, means a person of authority - nothing more, nothing less. When LORD in all capitals appears in the Old Testament however in a substitution of the tetragrammaton, God's name, YHWH. Jesus is not God. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3198255/pg1 http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3247913/pg1 [/quote] God did not change even though he became a human for a time period. HE is still the same forever. This being whom GOD became his visible image. As the CHRIST is both LORD and SAVIOR. MY ONE GOD has saved me through JESUS. Come to him for he is the ONLY one that can save you in the end. [/quote] Spirit becoming human flesh is a change. Who did Jesus pray to? [/quote] He prayed to his TRUE SELF, for that TRUE SELF did not change. [/quote]
It's a false, conceptualized image of the true God, and the golden calf of Christianity. To serve the true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob you need to reject the trinity idol.
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