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The Christian trinity is an idol.
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[quote:Unchained:MV8zMjk5NzE5XzU4OTk0OTQ3XzcwN0Q1RTE3] [quote:Monotheism:MV8zMjk5NzE5XzU4OTk0ODczXzVERkZBM0ZB] [quote:Unchained:MV8zMjk5NzE5XzU4OTk0NzQ1Xzk0RUQxMjMx] [quote:Monotheism:MV8zMjk5NzE5XzU4OTk0NTk0XzU1QzA4ODg0] [quote:Unchained:MV8zMjk5NzE5XzU4OTk0NDQ5XzlGMURFMDQz] [quote:Monotheism:MV8zMjk5NzE5XzU4OTk0MzAxX0YwRTVCQkYw] [quote:Monotheism:MV8zMjk5NzE5XzU4OTk0MjI1X0M0N0M3NzVD] [quote:Unchained:MV8zMjk5NzE5XzU4OTk0MjA2XzZGNDM0NDY0] [quote:Unchained:MV8zMjk5NzE5XzU4OTk0MDYyXzNERjBGMzk1] [quote:Monotheism:MV8zMjk5NzE5XzU4OTkzODI0XzIzM0JGQUE1] Since we're doing simple questions, Unchained, I'll entertain the far-fetched, theoretical possibility that it's possible to get a straight answer from a simple question from a Christian. What does this mean to you? [i]Yet for us there is [b]one God, the Father[/b], from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.[/i] 1 Corinthians 8:6 [i]And this is eternal life, that they know you, [b]the only true God[/b], and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.[/i] John 17:6 [i][b]The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, the God of our fathers, glorified [u]his servant[/u] Jesus[/b], whom you delivered over and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he had decided to release him.[/i] Acts 3:13 [/quote] But, if I read without the context/knowledge of Jesus's statements and His Apostles previous statements, then I would conclude, otherwise. I asked you about honoring or showing "great respect" for Jesus, that is due Jesus; and what the Father stated is due Jesus; what honor do you show the Father? is it the same honor that you show to Jesus? [/quote] Wow, half my statement did not show up? Anyway, before "But", I would conclude from those verses alone, that Jesus and the Father are separate, and that Jesus was a servant. [/quote] Of course you would conclude that, because that's exactly what is communicated. YHWH's word leaves no room for any co-equals. [/quote] No amount of "context" can change what is explicitly communicated in these passages. [/quote] Concerning context, I disagree, context is everything. The Apostles had already taught the believers the Gospel, so there wasn't any misunderstanding. Concerning YHWH's word, we already know Jesus is the Word, as revealed in Genesis. But, we have already discussed this. Now, can we discuss honor? Could you answer my question? [/quote] Don't twist my words, please. Context is everything, but no amount of "context" will nullify what it clearly communicated in those verses. To honor the representative of God is to honor God, because the representative acts in God's behalf. Speaking of context - genuine context, not ficticious "context" - here's how the passage continues. [i]For as the Father has life in himself, so [b]he has granted[/b] the Son also to have life in himself[/i]. John 5:26 [/quote] Yes, we honor all servants of God; but, to whom is assigned equal honor with the Father? There is only the one: The Messiah. I know you believe that Jesus is the Messiah, correct? and ALL honor is equally placed upon Him as the Father. Correct? [/quote] No, you're not correct. Isaiah tells us the messiah will fear God, not be God. [/quote] Here is the verse again: 22 For the Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him. If we honor the Son any less than we honor the Father, are we truly honoring the Father? We have already discussed "the fear of God"...it is the hatred of sin. [/quote]
It's a false, conceptualized image of the true God, and the golden calf of Christianity. To serve the true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob you need to reject the trinity idol.
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