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Moon HOAX CONSPIRACY - LEM HATCH TOO SMALL! BEST DOCUMENTARY IS 1 OF OLDEST DOCUMENTARIES
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 73085799:MV8zNDY3MTM4XzYxODczNzYxXzg1MDFCODRD] [quote:Mehitable 68162485:MV8zNDY3MTM4XzYxODczNjIwXzk3QTgyN0U5] [quote:Anonymous Coward 73085799:MV8zNDY3MTM4XzYxODczNTM4XzgyMkUyMEMz] [quote:Mehitable 68162485:MV8zNDY3MTM4XzYxODczNDk1XzdCMkRFQzM=] [quote:Anonymous Coward 73085799:MV8zNDY3MTM4XzYxODczNDE4X0IxREEyODc2] [quote:Mehitable 68162485:MV8zNDY3MTM4XzYxODczMzkzX0VCOUU2RDcz] [quote:Anonymous Coward 73085799:MV8zNDY3MTM4XzYxODczMjg2XzgzMkRDMjhB] [quote:Mehitable 68162485:MV8zNDY3MTM4XzYxODczMjQ5X0JGMjc5MDE3] [quote:Anonymous Coward 73085799:MV8zNDY3MTM4XzYxODczMTYyXzE4ODU5NTQ0] [quote:Mehitable 68162485:MV8zNDY3MTM4XzYxODczMDA3XzNGNzdBQzdB] So I'm finishing up on this video, which is outstanding, btw, and the film maker points out something absolutely remarkable. On 1.18.11 (roughly) of the film, the astronauts are shown in a specific area, said to be 1 kilometer west of the module, doing some experiments. The researcher (who did the video) says to pay very close attention to this setting and the rocks there....as we will see them again. There's a rock in the middle that looks, as the researcher describes it, like an alligator opening its mouth. Not sure I'd describe it like that, but it's very distinctive, and right in the middle of a distinctive set of rocks, from left to right. It's unique. Then next day the astronauts are sent in ANOTHER direction, south 4 km, to do more exploring. And at 1.20.40 in the film....what landscape do they run into (now remember - this is an entirely different direction and distance)....[b]THE SAME SET OF ROCKS INCLUDING THE UNUSUAL ONE IN THE MIDDLE[/b]!!!!! I took screenshots of both and it IS the same location. So what does this mean? [b]IT MEANS THEY WERE ON A SET.[/b] Again, you don't need a degree or theoretical understanding to catch this and understand it. You just need to watch the film and see that it is the SAME LOCATION, despite our being told it's two different days, directions and distance!!!! It doesn't get much plainer than this. NASA being caught in a blatant lie. How big is the lie? Does this mean we NEVER went to the moon? I don't know. Does it mean no manned flights to the moon? I don't know. All I know is that NASA has been caught in MANY LIES on this topic (and others) and this is one of the best. You can see it YOURSELF. [/quote] No, what it means is they were the same EVA but a different third party documentary made the mistake of calling them different EVAs and Collier never checked his source. NASA never made the claim that the footage claim from two different EVAs [/quote] No, it doesn't mean that. He's showing the actual NASA documentary with the ACTUAL NASA narrator saying exactly where they are each day. And we run into THE SAME LANDSCAPE. This is not Collier's "mistake"....it is NASA showing and saying this. NASA was caught in a LIE. People, go watch this video yourself, especially check out those two areas I designate in the last post 1.18 and 1.20 - thereabouts, and you'll see that this is from NASA'S FILM ITSELF, NOT from Collier. [/quote] AGAIN, the documentary was not made by NASA. A third party made the mistake and Collier didn't check his source. NASA did not make the claim. [/quote] I know, it's NEVER NASA or the govt that lies, it's always SOMEONE else. Who did the documentarian GET THE INFO FROM to be able to place these astronauts? And why is the footage leading into the 2nd one different? They interspliced entire scenes from wrong days? I don't think so. I think they showed exactly what they got from NASA with the commentary. WHAT ELSE WOULD THEY HAVE DONE? [/quote] Because it couldn't have possibly just been an editing mistake, right? AGAIN, if you get the footage from NASA it is clear they are the same EVA. If you check the dialog with the transcript it is clear they are the same EVA. NASA did not make the claim, the maker of the documentary did. It may have been sponsored by NASA but it was not made by them. [/quote] And of course, NASA would not be at all involved in making that documentary...one wonders where the documentarian got not only the film, but the descriptions that go with the locations. And NASA didn't check the film before it was released for errors because...well, they're just so fucking cautious. And of course....after the film was released, NASA again didn't note that this was an error and made them look like they were LYING....which they ARE, of course. NASA is just so damned precise! And they didn't pay any attention to documentaries that film makers made at that time about their coveted moon bullshit. [/quote] So now NASA should be involved in all phases and be more involved than the director? Of a third party project? You just can't admit that NASA had nothing to do with the claim, can you? [/quote] You don't know they weren't involved at all. And I would assume, of course, that they would be HIGHLY involved in any documentary about the moon shots, as the provider of source material, and as the technical advisors on the project. And YES, I WOULD expect them to correct any such OBVIOUS "errors" as this one. I would expect, esp at that time, that NASA would have been highly proprietary and cautious about what film makers were releasing about their projects. Especially as they HAD to be involved with both giving the info and technical advice! To think otherwise would be ludicrous. [/quote] Or in the real world they provided the footage and then had other things to do besides acting as a second director. The fact remains that the claim they are different EVAs comes ONLY from this third party documentary. NASA does not make this claim and if you get the footage from them it is clear they are not the same EVA or if you check the dialog with the transcript it is also clear they are not the same EVA. You're grasping at straws based on a claim NASA didn't even make. But thanks for the humor. [/quote]
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The BEST video/documentary on the subject, written & [low budget] produced by an actual scientific investigative journalist (who was later found dead, mysteriously) is this one. He interviewed the friggin DIRECTOR of the Apollo "mission", the man responsible for training the astro-NOT$ on the usage of the L.E.M. moon lander...who goes on to look into the camera and state that he 'never had to train the astro-not$ to actually GO THROUGH THE LEM HATCH,[LOL!!!] - which is measured in the documentary & proven that it was not possibly able to allow a fully packed astronaut to enter or exit from. [the film producer then says 'so i guess they just had to TRAVEL THE 250,000 MILES TO THEN JUST "WING IT"] Good stuff, great footage, ignore the poor-mid 90's VHS quality to this copy that someone uploaded:
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