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Homeowner shoots and wounds intruder with shotgun loaded with bird shot. Intruder survives
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[quote:Mama Outlaw:MV8zODUxOTE4XzcwMDQ1ODg0XzQzRTAxNkU2] [quote:GSB/LTD:MV8zODUxOTE4XzcwMDQ0MjU4XzRBRDNDNjMz] [quote:Mama Outlaw:MV8zODUxOTE4XzcwMDMyMjA0X0E5NTlGRDkx] [quote:GSB/LTD:MV8zODUxOTE4XzcwMDIzODY0Xzc3NDg5MTE0] [quote:FlashBuzzkill:MV8zODUxOTE4XzcwMDIzMDc1XzE3NDdDMTdC] [quote:Evil_Twin:MV8zODUxOTE4XzcwMDIyODkyX0ExMEY0RjhC] Bird shot is for birds. [/quote] This is true. But birdshot will work fine if you are very, very close. You can still blow a big hole in someone from 2 feet away but from a distance all you'll do is piss them off. [/quote] Most homeowners [i][but especially apartment dwellers] [/i]load their shotties with bird because it won't penetrate through walls and accidentally kill their neighbors. And, you CAN shred somebody with birdshot if they're within a decent range... I'd say it's closer to about 6-8' depending upon what they are wearing... but importantly how FAT they are! Human body fat absorbs ALOT of the intial impact just like the cushioning it really is. That's why it takes a 30-30 -and sometimes multiple shots- to bring down really BIG game! BTW: I live in a townhouse, and while my Mossberg 500 is normally loaded with birdshot, the sidesaddle also has both buck and slug loads. Just in case! [/quote] At 6'-8' anyone you could "shred" with birdshot is going to take three steps forward and take it away from you. He could knock you out with a baseball bat. I'm trying not to sound nasty but I'm angry. Some people have training and instinct to jump a gun. They will be on you with all they've got and beat you to a pulp, with your birdshot that doesn't penetrate drywall and kill the neighbors. If you are very timid and frail and are bothered by naked rapists slipping in your bedroom window at night I guess this is a good idea. You can shred the bad guy without damaging your leather upholstery. Otherwise, it's unnecessary provocation and escalation of threat. [/quote] Well, you're WRONG: you come across as being very Angry AND nasty! Every situation is different and everyone reacts differently in even identical scenarios, but have it your way, Honey! In addition to a sidesaddle, my 12ga is also fitted with a 19" barrel and a pistol grip... so, if I ever DO have to use it, I won't be fucking around. And, you're full of shit thinking that anyone under 200# won't be stopped in their tracks when hit with a load of birdshot in the considerable kill zone such a close target presents. [/quote] I am angry because people are foolishly discussing weapon choices that accelerate and escalate violence. I am VERY angry at whatever retard is selling apartment owners shotguns to use as clubs and batons, or brandish at people. I'm angry about naive people being endangered by gunstore salesmen. I shouldn't be nasty but I live in gunland. We have some very sweet but not very smart people here. I see the kinds of people who are likely to get shot idle beat to death diddling with a gun of very limited use. Birdshot is a good choice for a mother with her children in the room as a second line defense of someone gets through Dad downstairs. But why is a woman with children living like this? It's a good choice for a single woman living in an apartment in a bad neighborhood with a serial killer on the prowl. It's good if you are in the pantry and Jack is breaking through with an ax. It's a good choice for anyone in a closed populated space with a KNOWN attacked with KNOWN intentions. I don't know why I bother. It's a survival of the fittest situation but ai really hate to think of innocent people lured by gun salesmen into strategies that i could MAKE someone have to STOP THEM. Holding a gun in your hands cries USE LETHAL FORCE HERE Same old thread--someone's going to use a gun to deter attack but holding a gun DRAWS DEFENSIVE ATTACK Then they are going to use it to put down good dogs, scare off bad ones, signal for distress, light fires by shooting stones, aerate the compost and pound in tent stakes. I feel innocent and naive people are taken advantage of and endangered too. It makes me mad. [/quote]
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Crawford County Sheriff Ron Brown said the owner of a home in the 2700 block of Clear Creek Road east of Van Buren was awakened about 3 a.m. Wednesday by a home alarm that signaled a break-in in his detached garage. Grabbing a shotgun loaded with birdshot, the homeowner went to investigate.
When he entered the garage he was confronted by the intruder, Brown said. They fought and the intruder began to run away. The homeowner told deputies it appeared the intruder was heading for the front door of the home and he feared he would go inside. Brown said the homeowner fired a warning shot in the air for the man to stop, then fired one shot at the intruder.
Byrns, who was wounded in the side of the head by birdshot pellets, ran down the road to a vehicle parked about one-eighth of a mile away, authorities said. A woman companion was waiting for him, Brown said.
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