Users Online Now:
1,639
(
Who's On?
)
Visitors Today:
127,577
Pageviews Today:
220,671
Threads Today:
70
Posts Today:
1,383
02:55 AM
Directory
Adv. Search
Topics
Forum
Back to Forum
Back to Thread
REPLY TO THREAD
Subject
Scientists Baffled-New Discoveries-Darwinian Evolution Crumbling-Scientists Abandon Theory
User Name
Font color:
Default
Dark Red
Red
Orange
Brown
Yellow
Green
Olive
Cyan
Blue
Dark Blue
Indigo
Violet
Black
Font:
Default
Verdana
Tahoma
Ms Sans Serif
In accordance with industry accepted best practices we ask that users limit their copy / paste of copyrighted material to the relevant portions of the article you wish to discuss and no more than 50% of the source material, provide a link back to the original article and provide your original comments / criticism in your post with the article.
[quote:newtome:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDk0MjI2X0NDQkE3QThE] [quote:MaybeTrollingUAgain:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDg5OTA1X0E0REE1NzM5] [quote:belgium:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDg5NjQ3XzI1RTRCNDJD] [quote:newtome:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDcyMjk0XzVCMUIyM0Q3] [quote:MaybeTrollingUAgain:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDY4MTM0X0YxNkZCQ0Qw] [quote:newtome:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDY3MjcyXzI2NDU3MkVF] [quote:MaybeTrollingUAgain:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDY3MTY1X0EzN0M2ODU1] [quote:Spur-Man:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDY3MDUzXzYwRjBGNDk0] [quote:newtome:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDY3MDE0XzlBRjhBNDMz] [quote:Spur-Man:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDY2OTM0XzFGQTM5QTVC] [quote:newtome:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDY2OTAzX0FBRUE1QzNC] [quote:Spur-Man:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDY2ODg4X0Y0MjM2NThD] [quote:newtome:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDY2NjYzX0Y3RUNCQzgw] [quote:Spur-Man:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDY2NjMzXzhBOUI0OEM1] [quote:newtome:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDY2NTIzXzkxQzZDN0RE] [quote:Spur-Man:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDU3NjgyX0UxNzRCQzJE] [quote:newtome:MV8zOTM2MzAxXzcxNDU3MzcwXzhFMjkwMzI1] My point is that you think Christian creationists are representative of all religion and treat all religion as if it is run/governed/controlled etc by creationists. It isn't. Your viewpoint is why people don't like immigration because you don't know who is the nutter so all must be nutters. Religion is also not the Bible. The Church is not all religion. If the Pope didn't want his Priests to stare at the cosmos and study the heavens then they wouldn't have built something like 100 observatories around the world. You are the small minded one in this conversation. irrespective of the Bible and what is written churches still look for answers. Answers to prove the Bible right but in doing so to also invalidate parts of the Bible. If you didn't know Catholic Priests spend years at university to become a Priest. They are educated and are taught to doubt, ask questions and seek truths, and yes some do things they shouldn't like all people. I think your view that religion is the enemy is a generalisation and not entirely fair. FWIW I have been in a catholic church twice, once for a wedding and once for a funeral so I am far from a Catholic or any other Church. [/quote] I don't think Christian Creationists are representative of all religion. No idea why you accuse me of this. My view is why people don't like immigration? lol. That's a stretch. Ok. The pope wants people to look through telescopes. Cool. I don't care. My problem is when people use the Bible as a source for scientific knowledge. This is the primary reason that people reject evolution, big bang, the age of the earth, abiogenesis etc. It's why people rejected the germ theory of disease and heliocentric theory. The abrahamic religions have historically punished people for questioning them, and taught that you will be tortured for eternity for disbelief. You know this is true. Churches may encourage people to seek knowledge, but there are core teachings within each religion that can not be changed without destroying the religion. Christianity for example is not open to the possibility that Yahweh is a man-made myth. If Yahweh is a myth, Christianity is false. I never said religion is the enemy. I think buddhism contains a lot of wisdom and practical advice, as does the teachings of Jesus. I may even be considered a pantheist. If you believe that god is omnicient and he created nature, then evolution and abiogenesis, like all natural processes, would be part of his will. But Creationists won't accept this because of their literal interpretation of genesis. So they run around spreading misinformation and trying to discredit science. [/quote] It was not religion that rejected Big Bang, the church immediately embraced it, science rejected it. What better way to prove "in the beginning". You need to look at history instead of making false statements. [/quote] I didn't make a false statement. That guy right above you rejects the big bang as an atheistic religion that says everything randomly came from nothing. I'm aware of how the theory came about, but today you will find Creationists everywhere reject it. Many of them even think that the big bang and evolution are the same theory, such as Kent Hovind. In his words, the big bang is just the atheists way to explain the universe without God. You continue to try and fail to attack my character and credibility, I'm just interested in the science. [/quote] and then you blamed Abrahamic religions. It is getting old. [/quote] I blamed Abrahamic religions for what? I don't even know what you're talking about. I said Abrahamic religions have historically punished people for questioning them. That's a fact. If it upsets you, then too fucking bad. Let's talk about the science. Science offers naturalistic mechanisms for how life appeared, evolved. Whether a god controls those processes is another question. Creationists propose no mechanism for how god creates things, other than miracles/magic. All they do is accuse evolutionists of having faith and being nazis. It's sad. I've briefly described the ERV and fossil evidence. You don't find these convincing? [/quote] Can we talk about how science and the world's pre-eminent scientists rejected the Big Bang Theory because the Church embraced it or is that inconvenient? [/quote] 'Science' didn't reject it, but yeah popular scientists did. Then scientists gathered evidence and it changed people's minds. So what? [/quote] So what you don't like about others is acceptable from scientists? Interesting that you call scientists such as Eddington, Einstein and Hoyle along with many others as popular scientists. [/quote] There you go again. No, I don't hold scientists to lower standards, no matter how much you want me to. Nothing I said implies that. I didn't name any of those scientists specifically, but Einstein is popular, so what are you talking about? [/quote] Dude, what bothers me the most in these fanatics is the dishonesty. They go to any length to justify their fanaticism, lie and even kill if needed. This is because religion is all they have, without it their world would erude beneath them. Many times I've talk to fanatics and asked: "If somehow it is proven without a shadow of a doubt that god is not real and religion is all crap, what would you do?". Many answer along the lines of "I'll go out and kill and steal and rape for there are no consequences". For these people, which is not a minority among fanatics, is better they don't go out of this faith bubble of darkness. The only thing separating them from barbarism is the fear of consequences, for inside they are horrible people, anguished in their fear of the invisible, inexistent god. But by far, the worst is their dishonesty. Reason, logic, proof and truth is not important, these things are almost as if impossible concepts for them. Better believe in magic, almighty rageful gods than knowing the truth. So questining them is asking for outrageous answers, full of false rhetorics, logical fallacies and all kinds of dishonest argumentation. Trying to be reasonable with fanatics is the same as chewing bubble gum to solve an algebra problem. Its futile to bring reason to their lives, they are better with their lies and superstition. In summary, they are dangerous ignorants, and they are the majority. Luckily, religions have a timespan of like a couple thousand years tops, history based on history of religions that came and died. [/quote] They were making a very clear point to you and clearly you are so obsessed that you were blind to their point. Judeo-Christian values and morals are the basis of law and morals throughout western societies. Their point was that if you have no God then the basic foundations of Western civilisation as we know it is built on a false premise. The Bible says thou shalt not kill etc etc. If the Bible has no standing then why should such things be seen as bad? What values will ultimately replace it? [/quote] See? More logical fallacies! This one called cherry picking. Wanna talk moral? Great, lets do it: Take any pedophile case. Your dear god will do squat to help or save an innocent. It will be like: "You go ahead and do it, I'll punish you later". Anyone with a drop of moral, will do something to stop it from happening. This is the difference between your almighty moral thug and people with moral. Wanna talk moral? Great, lets talk more: How many slaves do you have? The bible is very clear on the rules on owning people as property. And don't you dare "old testament" shit on me. It is either the whole thing or nothing, you can't be cherry pick what is convenient to you and blame the rest on "this is old, out of context" or some puny excuse like that. Fanatics like you are the worst type of liars, you lie to yourself and try to impose your lie on anybody else. [/quote] Why do you keep referring to my God? I am not religious, those you were talking about are and I was explaining to you what they were saying because you are clearly too thick to understand. No not cherry picking, a statement of fact. Nor a logical fallacy. What moral code will you use if you choose not to use the Judeo-Christian ones? Why do you think murder and rape is so bad? Surely science and nature believes in the survival of the fittest? Why shouldn't we just live and behave as the rest of your wonderful nature? And no, I don't own any slaves because the society I live in doesn't allow it but there are millions of people around the world who do own slaves and are slaves. Disappointingly for you they don't seem to be Western countries that once had Christianity as a foundation. https://blogs-images.forbes.com/niallmccarthy/files/2016/05/20160531_Slavery.jpg https://www.globalslaveryindex.org/2018/findings/global-findings/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/?utm_term=.b9e5d4f643c9 I guess those Societies without the underlying Judeo-Christian foundation are so much better. Maybe if we disprove the Bible and God we could all own slaves, wouldn't that be a better world for you? [/quote] I've tried the rape argument before, they will twist your words to their outcome. It's a brick wall my friend, a huge brick wall. [/quote] Of course its a brick wall, its the truth, the contrary of religion [/quote] Religion is not only about a God. Your problem is clearly about a belief in a God. [i]religion noun re·​li·​gion | \ri-ˈli-jən \ Definition of religion 1a : the state of a religious a nun in her 20th year of religion b(1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance 2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices 3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS 4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith[/i] [/quote]
Original Message
The discovery of tyrannosaurus soft tissue is enough to cost this scientist her job. The implications are that the infamous dinosaur can be no older than several thousand years, twelve thousand max. This significant discovery should be enough to at least cause a revision of natural history. interview of scientist who found the soft tissue begins at 1:25 by 60 Minutes.
At 25 minutes they speak pertaining to the blood vessels found in these "fossils".
Pictures (click to insert)
General
Politics
Bananas
People
Potentially Offensive
Emotions
Big Round Smilies
Aliens and Space
Friendship & Love
Textual
Doom
Misc Small Smilies
Religion
Love
Random
View All Categories
|
Next Page >>