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Scientists Baffled-New Discoveries-Darwinian Evolution Crumbling-Scientists Abandon Theory
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It is an anchor keeping us from becoming something much better. [/quote] "We" got rid of religion and everything is going to hell in a hand basket.... Downloading ones consciousness onto a hard drive is not my idea of becoming something better. How about we take what we got, and even though its not perfect, try to preserve it. The fantasy of evolving into a techno god is kind of nuts. [/quote] On the other hand a universe created by magic is completely plausible. Mobs of fanatics burning "witches" is fine, justifying all kinds of atrocities in the name of an non existing all powerful being(which is a sadistic, moral thug, barbaric psychopath) is fine. Science is what will lead us to a better future. It is right now, look at what we're doing for crying out loud! We are communicating through a complex machine, over an intricate network covering the whole world. You probably take medicine developed by science. The car you drive, the tools and machines we have, all those things, guess what? Science biatch! Religion brought us, nothing but fanaticism, to the point of suicide is justifiable as long as it kills infidels. And yes, islam and christianity are in "the same boat", along with all others. [/quote] A. most of those atrocities were committed by the catholic church. B. Secular governments using "science" are responsible for the most devastating couple of centuries mankind has ever witnessed. C. Christianity and islam are not in the same category. D. I have nothing against "science", I am just tired of the debate that evolutionists keep perpetuating saying that science and religion are mutually exclusive. If you want to have faith in aliens or bubble puddles more power to you! Would you go as far to say that a hindu, or a Buddhist, or a j&wish person could not be a scientist due to their faith?? [/quote] Expected answers, nothing different than any fanatic apologist. A) Catholic church IS christianity, they are in the same boat as any other christian. B) There is no such a thing as "secular government", but theocracy, plenty. C) All religions are in the same category: myth. D) A very common logical fallacy. Logic seems like the most lacking attribute on fanatics. [/quote] so what does religion have to do with SCIENCES FAILURE? [/quote] There are a lot of things in science that were proven to be wrong. But there is nothing in religion proven to be right. [/quote] Except tangible historical evidence. Provided by proponents and critics. But both are wrong, right? [/quote] Religion does existed along history, not denying that. Is the belief on myths and fairy tales that is wrong. [/quote] The Darwinist worldview as well as any other religions are based on faith. Darwinists just can't admit it, that being said, the belief that the material universe came about through random processes is akin to a child believing in santa clause or the easter bunny, where a present or chocolate egg arrives out of thin air and they attribute it to whimsical ideals... [/quote] Old worn argument, well known and widely used by people whom simply lack understanding of what evolution is. There is nothing of random, there is no need for faith. Faith is the excuse used to believe things that can't be proven. Just FYI, your argument is called "personal incredulity", its a logical fallacy and only proffered by ignorant illiterate people. Since you probably don't know what ignorant means(aka, you're ignorant about that too), allow me to explain: Ignorant stands for someone whom ignores, someone that doesn't know about something. Learn and study, this will enlighten you and make you a better person. [/quote] Then where did life come from?? [/quote] Another worn argument which has nothing to do with evolution. Abiogenesis is what you're looking for. A fascinating topic. [/quote] How and when does evolution occur without abiogenesis? Do you know what the word premise means? Need link? [/quote] I do know very well the concept and usage of the term premise. For example, different subjects are not supposed to be mixed or misunderstood, this is a premise for one to be able to take conclusions. Abiogenesis is the origin of life, evolution is how life changed to the current state and the prediction to what it can become in the future. Of course you can study a lot of both things online, there are plenty of places for it, here on the internet, accessed by your device, and both, internet and your device were developed by, guess what, science! Isn't that amazing? It enabled us to talk to each other over thousands of miles away, instantanously. The anti-biotics you (probably) taken at least once, were also developed based on evolution. The origin of life seems to be a very criticized subject by fanatics(aka, religious people), but only till the point where they can no longer argue back without "magic". You can claim whatever you want, cry and stomp your feet or "speak in tongues", science is about telling facts, religion is about myth and fanaticism. [/quote] "Fact" is Abiogenesis and transitional evolution are both based on Faith. [/quote] Nothing can be further from the truth. Faith is the excuse people use to believe something without evidence. There are literally tons of evidence for both, there are literally thousands of scientific papers written and reviewed about both. The difference between science and religion is that science has basis, reason and pondering, while religion has logical fallacies supporting each other. Believing in "all mighty entities" is in the same level as believing in pixies, unicorns and magic. [/quote] and scientific papers postulating an idea isn't proof either. The scientific method clearly identifies how to prove something as true. Papers or consensus is not one of those ways. There used to be consensus about Gods, origins of life, everything revolving around the earth etc etc etc. In your mind that consensus proved nothing. [/quote]
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The discovery of tyrannosaurus soft tissue is enough to cost this scientist her job. The implications are that the infamous dinosaur can be no older than several thousand years, twelve thousand max. This significant discovery should be enough to at least cause a revision of natural history. interview of scientist who found the soft tissue begins at 1:25 by 60 Minutes.
At 25 minutes they speak pertaining to the blood vessels found in these "fossils".
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