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Subject Challenging the Christians on this board

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but, you said earlier that we had to seek the Holy Spirit to know if our scruples were reality, did you not?

I think that was someone else.....I haven't touched on the reality component.

did you say that our conscience is the Holy Spirit?
is the Holy Spirit reality?
and do our consciences sometimes condemn us for things which are not sin?

Our conscience is the Holy Spirit speaking to us. Reality is what we perceive so yes it is reality. I don't think our conscience condemns us of things that are not sin, but we condemn ourselves because there is a constant clash between our existential societal survival mechanisms and the truth in our heart.
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it says in scripture that our hearts condemn us
but, God is greater than our hearts

i have known people whose conscience told them that eating chocolate was  a sin
was this truth?
no, it was not
but, they had a scruple about it

we must have the Holy Spirit to lead us by love
otherwise we will be led by fear
and i am pretty sure that the conscience leads by fear most times
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Original Message I have spent almost three years frequenting this forum, I have had many debates, mostly with fellow christians in regard to faith and beliefs and what is the true doctrine of Christ. I have been proven wrong many times in my personal theology but came to understand and was able to repent and acknowledge i was wrong, because of my foundation of truth in Christ. In everything I debate with others I always place everything on my foundation of truth.

truth has become almost a buzzword it seems, and I wonder how other christians consider what they debate as true or not. scripture can be interpreted so many different ways it seems, and I notice that we always interpret scripture according to how we understand our knowledge of truth.

Jesus said that he was the way the truth and the life...He also said that we would know the truth and the truth would set us free.

In contrast to truth, there is also the lie. Satan/devil is called dthe father of the lie and all lies.

John says to those who are believers in 1 John 2

""20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. 21 I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.""

My question, or challenge to those who are christians and who proclaim to know Christ is this....

What exactly is the 'truth' that Jesus claimed to be, and that we would also know that would set us free?

and on the flip side

What is the 'lie' that satan/devil fathered from the beginning?

bear in mind that the 'truth' and the 'lie' will be in contrast to each other, and at opposite ends of the spectrum.

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