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Normandy, 1944: when men were men; incredible footage taken from the German side
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[quote:The Acute Misanthropist 77735764:MV80MDY0NjQ1XzczNjUyMDU2X0Y0NTZBQTBG] [quote:thinking...:MV80MDY0NjQ1XzczNjUwNDkzXzg1ODk3MURC] [quote:The Acute Misanthropist 77735764:MV80MDY0NjQ1XzczNjUwMzA0X0NGNjA0OUI0] [quote:thinking...:MV80MDY0NjQ1XzczNjQ4ODM3Xzg5QzVBNTcz] [quote:Anonymous Coward 77098265:MV80MDY0NjQ1XzczNjQ3MzY1XzRFOEFDRkFE] [quote:thinking...:MV80MDY0NjQ1XzczNjQ3MjQ2X0U0Nzc5NkEy] [quote:The Acute Misanthropist 77732315:MV80MDY0NjQ1XzczNjM2MjIzX0M4REI3RURF] Please read this quote, taken from the book, I know these dictators. G Ward Price was a guest of Adolph Hitler and Benito Mussolini many years before war broke out. The is what Adolph Hitler said. Page 100 ---------- http://der-fuehrer.org/bucher/english/I%20know%20these%20dictators.pdf ----------- “ I am no new advocate of an Anglo-German understanding. In Germany I have made between four and five thousand speeches to small, large, and mammoth audiences, yet there is no single speech of mine, nor any line that I have written, in which I have expressed anything contrary to this conception, or against an Anglo-German understanding. “ So far as I am concerned, the world may reproach me with what it will; one reproach, however, it can never make-that I have vacillated in my views or been unfaithful in my work. Had an unknown man with such defects set himself to win a nation in fifteen years, he could never have succeeded. This perhaps is the basis of what may, to many, seem the exaggerated faith inspired by my personality. I believe that my consistent mental attitude, my invariable principles, and my unshakable resolution will in the end succeed in enabling me to play a great and historical part towards the re-establishment of sound and permanent relations between the two great Germanic nations. [b]“ Such an agreement between England and Germany would represent the weighty influence for peace and common sense of 120,000,000 of the most valuable people in the world. The historically unique colonial aptitude and the naval power of Britain would be combined with that of one of the first military nations of the world. If this under- standing could be still further enlarged by the adhesion of the American nation, it would be absolutely impossible to see who in the world could disturb a combination for peace which would never, of set purpose or intent, neglect the interests of the white peoples. [/b] [/quote] Well, while I am of the opinion that the US should have never entered that damn war (my dad fought there) and I do think it would have been better had Germany won, Germany DID do terrible things because of that admiration for British colonialism and that idiotic Lebensraum. Had Germany never invaded anyone else and just continued the amazing improvements in Germany, there would have been no war. Have you ever read anything Hitler said about the Slavs? He wanted to colonize their lands and put them in service to Germany. He saw them as practically subhuman. He made some fairly good points about them (Russians) being backward peasants whose lives and living conditions would actually be improved by German administration and cultural influences but he chose to conquer by force rather than win people over by example and that led to the destruction of Nazi Germany and an ungodly number of people, in Germany and beyond. It was the desire for empire and taking by force that was their downfall and resulted in the commies taking half of Europe. [/quote] All propaganda. Germany was anti-colonial and wanted back the lands which were historically always German. The finance world declared war on Germany because there is no room for a skim when a sovereign engages in direct barter. [/quote] No, it's not propaganda (what I wrote). You can also see by my post that you quoted that I found a lot to admire in Nazi Germany. However, [b]it's not black or white. There was a lot of black and grey and the Nazis did some terrible things.[/b] Hitler most certainly wanted to colonize Slavic lands such as western Russia and Ukraine and settle them with Germans overseeing Slavic labor. He saw that as a benefit for Germany (products for the Reich) and something that would uplift the colonized Slavs. Those not needed for work were intended to be deported to Siberia. While so many Russians suffered under communism, they did NOT want to be colonized by Germans and a hatred against the Nazis exists to this day because of the invasion of the USSR. My position is that Germany could have led by example by staying within their own borders and making Germany a spectacular model. Being that that National Socialism was both socialist and collectivist, such an example could have won over those enslaved by communism but who still related to socialism and collectivism (very European ideologies, unlike the US). It's foolish, no matter how you admire anyone, to be blind to their mistakes and evil that exist(ed) along with what was good or extraordinary. The Nazis embodied the full spectrum. [/quote] Perhaps you can mention what the "terrible" things the Germans did? And while you're at it, since you seem to know a lot about WW2, maybe you could also mention the "terrible" things the Polish, Russian, and Americans did. Now, as for Lebensraum. Its true that Germany had plans for a greater living space for Germany. He did say certain things about the Slavs, the Mongolian type, later he was to recant on his comments regarding the majority of the Russians, as he later found out about them from close associates and adjutants. You do realize that there were hundreds of thousands, if not millions of other men from other nations, including Russia, who helped the Germans in the Wehrmacht and SS divisions ,fighting Bolshevism. I think many of the millions of Russians would have had much better lives under Germany, than they did under Stalin and those before him. This is why so many of them greeted the Germans, housed and feed them, when the arrived. I could go on and on here but I think this should suffice for the time being. If you want to learn more about, you can find out more. Read some books, and watch some films. You can start here. www.twofilms.tv [/quote] You're arguing with someone who mostly agrees with you. I simply don't see things in black and white (I mentioned a millions Germans being killed AFTER the war and the Eisenhower camps). Yes, I know that many welcomed the Germans and AFAIC, NOTHING approached the scourge of communism and the atrocities of the Bolsheviks. That doesn't mean that I'm not going to acknowledge terrible acts by the other side. Please show me any war where atrocities weren't committed by everyone. And, while I loathe communism, if you were a partisan and had family killed by the opposition, do you not realize your perspective would be different? That's all I'm saying. Invading other countries is wrong and, in this case, it unleashed hell on Germany and the German people. In spite of the great achievements made in such a short period, doom was the result and it was because of wrong actions. I'm not even talking about the concentration camps, btw, and I'm a holocaust denier. [/quote] Fair enough. [/quote]
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My father served in the infantry in Patton's Third Army in France. He said the thing that bothered him the most after the war was the fact that he was sent to France to kill the best that Europe and the white race had to offer. He said when he saw the Wehrmacht in action and face to face as prisoners, he knew they were fighting a brother war at the behest of TPTB. He said everything we learn about WWII from the Establishment historians is utter bullshit. Even Patton ended up concluding that America was doing the dirty work of some evil international entity in destroying Germany's finest:
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