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Company is looking to outsource. "nobody is going to lose their jobs"
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[quote:BeelzeBob:MV80MTY1NzI3Xzc1NzAwOTI1X0Y0MjJBM0U1] [quote:Old Custer:MV80MTY1NzI3Xzc1NzAwNzY2XzNEOTFBNTE=] [quote:BeelzeBob:MV80MTY1NzI3Xzc1NzAwNDU5X0JBMERFQTVB] [quote:Old Custer:MV80MTY1NzI3Xzc1NzAwMzIzXzEwRDY4MzA2] [quote:BeelzeBob:MV80MTY1NzI3Xzc1NzAwMzA5X0MyMzUwODlB] What industry do you work in? [/quote] Finance. [/quote] I ask because many times things like this will trend an industry. One does it and others follow. I am in manufacturing IT and am first hand watching many retirements occur. The knowledge that is walking out the door in some cases will be difficult to replace for quite some time. [/quote] Im at a bank who's always done everything in-house. It makes sense to hand it off. There's giant companies that will do everything and have applications that all 'talk'. I was a consultant for years I've done the mfg side. (Maybe Ill go learn PLC programming and all that Allen Bradley stuff.) Ive done MSP consulting before for just about every industry. fun fun. I left MSP world because it was a lazy cash grab. Its not just the knowledge going out the door, its the work ethic too. Young people are very different. They either want to be the janitor or the CEO. They made it very uncool to go after a middle class lifestyle in the last 10 years. I don't think we ramp up and be a world power again. We forgot how to build things that build things. MFG was a strange beast. Funny story. I once worked at a 'green factory' that suppose to have no waste. There were no or very few garbage cans. The place was a dump because you weren't allowed to throw anything away. People would hide garbage anywhere they could. You would look behind something and there would be wrapper and packaging. It was insane and hysterical. But they were 'green'. [/quote] Very good point on work ethic. I see the new talent come in and there are a few bright stars, but I also see a significant lack of commitment and lack of "big system" awareness. I too did the consulting thing early on, started with big companies and eventually ended up with my own s-corp consulting gig...but and India-based consulting company came in for peanuts per hour and they cleared out all the independents, but offered me a job, which I took. Pretty funny on the green thing, but with management like that, it kind of sounds like a nightmare. [/quote]
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Not that I blame them. So many deadbeats in their IT dept, just collecting a check. Right now we're pulling information for quotes. All we keep hearing is:
'nobody is going to lose their job'
'what you do may change'
'this is going to free you up to do important work'
I sat long and hard and thought about it and came up with a few thoughts, nobody was going to lose their job why would they outsource. Whats the point. They're just gonna keep paying people for redundancy. I would they justify salary of 3 senior network engineers when they outsourced the network management. Does this mean they'll offer people lower paying jobs within the company.
Even if I was one of the 'lucky' ones what type of advancement opportunities would there actually be. If the department lost 90% of its people then management within the department just got 1000x more competitive.
Just sucks because nobody is worried. Its like they're all in denial and they want to believe. Sometimes i wish I was an idiot. Thanks for letting me rant GLP brethren.
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