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[quote:Anonymous Coward 80348993:MV80OTEyMjkzXzg5NzM0MTU0XzcxNkJGMTYy] [quote:Anonymous Coward 80348993:MV80OTEyMjkzXzg5NzMzNjIyXzRGRDFFQ0FD] [quote:Little Lost:MV80OTEyMjkzXzdDQzQ4QTNG] Here is a rough depiction of evolution. [youtube]https://youtu.be/RJjrWcWtDUM[/youtube] Lightening strike, magic happens. Heres where I'm struggling. That accounts for one life form. How do you account for all the varients of life and trees and plants? Were they all created by individual lightening strikes to create their own variation of what evolution leads them to become in something like present day? What was different about all these lightening strikes to create the variations we see now in forms of life? What about the water? Where did that come from? Am I to believe earth was bombarded with ice meteors or something to that effect? That's quite a strike given the volume of water? The lightening strikes that caused life to form and the ice meteors - how come we dont see this phenomenon occur now? Birth, healing, every resource to sustain each life form, carefully working in balance. So we were created by aliens? Who created them? How did there fluke of evolution occur? Same lightening strike as earth? This fluke phenomenon seems wide spread if it created life else where? Doesnt seem such a fluke if its wide spread on other planets? What am I missing. Do we take for granted what we see and not realise the marvel that is in front of us? Life. [/quote] Life from sparks The miller experiment produced left and right handed amino acids. Good luck producing proteins with all left handed amino acids. Statistically, if proteins could actually form without a living cell, the typical protein would be about a 50 / 50 mix of lefts and rights. What is the probability of a protein 50 amino acids long that are all left handed or all right handed? 2 x 2 x 2 ... (47 more times). Use your computer and then post your answer. So, you have this random protein 50 amino acids long. does it do anything? Is it a viable functioning component part of the future first living cell? Only if the amino acids are in a specific sequence for a specific function. If this first cell needs an enzyme (it will. Life is impossible without them), the amino acids must be in specific sequence (the corrrctect amino acids in the correct order for all 50 amino acids). What is the probability of that happening? There are at least 20 amino acids so 20 x 20 x 20 (47 more times). You don't need to do all the math to know that the resulting number is over 50 digits long. Now multiply these two digits together. Or the simple way. 40 x 40 x 40 (47 more times). Use your computer and post the answer. Yep that would be magic. Did dr Stanley miller include this with his study? [/quote] Even if you could form (more magic) a cell from a soup of amino acids and lipids etc, it would be dead (as in , not alive). This cell will need to be able to form more proteins and also reproduce itself. It must have DNA. I'm not sure how a DNA strand would be formed outside of a cell (more magic) or were the raw materials such as a particular type of sugar and free phosphorus to makeDNA would come from. But however this supposedly happened, the probability of this piece of DNA coding for the protein the cell needs is the same as the probability for the protein being in the correct sequence from above. You need both at the same time. Proteins that make up the first not living cell and DNA to make more protiens. These protiens need to be made of all left or all right handed amino acids. So initially the math for two protiens 50 amino acids long (ignoring the thousands needed for the first cell), one produced by chance without a cell and one broduced at the direction of DNA within the cell, the math is 40 x 40 x 40 (97 more times) The cell will need a variety of different protiens so, more math and bigger numbers. As cells become more complex and make the jump from single cell to multi cell organism the DNA will need to become longer and be a functional code. You will not get that from copy errors and stray game rats or whatever (more magic?). [/quote]
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Here is a rough depiction of evolution.
Lightening strike, magic happens. Heres where I'm struggling. That accounts for one life form. How do you account for all the varients of life and trees and plants? Were they all created by individual lightening strikes to create their own variation of what evolution leads them to become in something like present day? What was different about all these lightening strikes to create the variations we see now in forms of life? What about the water? Where did that come from? Am I to believe earth was bombarded with ice meteors or something to that effect? That's quite a strike given the volume of water? The lightening strikes that caused life to form and the ice meteors - how come we dont see this phenomenon occur now? Birth, healing, every resource to sustain each life form, carefully working in balance. So we were created by aliens? Who created them? How did there fluke of evolution occur? Same lightening strike as earth? This fluke phenomenon seems wide spread if it created life else where? Doesnt seem such a fluke if its wide spread on other planets? What am I missing. Do we take for granted what we see and not realise the marvel that is in front of us? Life.
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