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[quote:**ZetaMax**:MV84MTQ3MzlfNjI5NDk4NTRfNDVGMzc2Qg==] [quote:MoreAboutTunnelVision:MV84MTQ3MzlfNjI5NDk3MTVfMUM2ODg1QzQ=] [quote:**ZetaMax**:MV84MTQ3MzlfNjI5NDk1NDVfNjI5QkE1RUY=] [i]Nahle and his Slaying the Sky Dragon compadres demonstrate that [b]carbon dioxide loses the energy it absorbs almost instantaneously[/b], so there is no place for any kind of storage of thermal energy by carbon dioxide. To the more technically minded what Nahle and his colleagues say is that the release of a quantum/wave, at a different wavelength and frequency, lasts the time an excited electron takes to get back to its base state. Thus the IPCC’s CO2 “sky blanket” is shot full of holes as rational folk are increasingly abandoning the unphysical nonsense that carbon dioxide “traps” heat and raises global temperatures. Policymakers may be the last to wise up but they, too, must nonetheless consign the man-made global warming sham to the trash can marked “junk science.”[/i] https://co2insanity.com/2011/09/04/top-scientists-in-heated-debate-over-%E2%80%98-slaying-of-greenhouse-gas-theory/ [/quote] Even assuming this were true: When "carbon dioxide loses the energy it absorbs almost instantaneously" doesn't this still mean the energy is given back to the environment? You know of Newton's third law: there is no "spooky disappearance" of energy, it must be converted into something else. Since CO2 is obviously not glowing (heat energy converted into light), nor is CO2 converted into other elements (e=mc²), there is only: HEAT https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-carbon-dioxide-is-greenhouse-gas/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas#Greenhouse_gases [/quote] [i]... one other important fact often glossed over is that CO2 comprises a tiny 0.4% of all the gases above our heads. Nasif Nahle reminds us that this is a crucial point when considering the claims of the “grandfather” of the greenhouse gas hypothesis (GHE), Svente Arrhenius. Change in CO2 Temperature Is NOT Change in Atmospheric Temp When applying the GHE formula devised by Arrhenius, IPCC scientists appear to have forgotten that we must consider the proportion of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, not the proportion of the whole mixture of gases. Even if Arrhenius was right about the GHE any change of temperature obtained from his formula is exclusively a change of temperature of the mass of carbon dioxide, not of the atmosphere. The trick of climate doomsayers is that they draw their conclusions obtained from the Arrhenius formula for CO2 (only 0.04% of atmosphere), then apply that change of temperature to the WHOLE Earth; this is bad science, or possibly fraud. Nahle poses this question for GHE believers: “Is the atmosphere composed only of carbon dioxide? Why calculate the change of temperature of a mass of carbon dioxide and then after say it is the change of temperature of this trace gas that now becomes the temperature of the whole Earth?” Astrophysicist and climate researcher, Joe Postma similarly comments: “No one seems to have realized that any purported increase in temperature of CO2 due to CO2 absorption is APPLIED TO CO2, not the whole danged atmosphere! Again, just a slight tweak in comprehending the reality makes a whole paradigm of difference.”[/i] https://co2insanity.com/2011/09/04/top-scientists-in-heated-debate-over-%E2%80%98-slaying-of-greenhouse-gas-theory/ [/quote]
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Debunker Talk Live Chat May 15
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Or just post your thoughts/opinions.
Open Discussion on Zetatalk; Bunkers; and it/their inability, over the last
Six
years to provide
ANY
truthful Facts and Knowledge to support the absurd
Failed
predictions of the "Candy Wrapper Aliens".
Let's see how long the Three "bunker" Amigos can bounce off each other in their little padded room over there on
Zetatalk Jive Turkey Chat!!
PS: If any of you debunkers want to meet in the GLP text/voice chat for some LIVE audio conversation we should set a day/time to meet up in one of the rooms to have a discussion etc.
Would find it a pleasure to converse with some of you guys. I mean there's a wealth of different subjects to talk about besides this silly zetatalk stuff.
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