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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
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[quote:demantix:MV84NzI1OTBfNzQ1MDA3NTRfRjU5NTE1Nzk=] [quote:Kore:MV84NzI1OTBfNzAwNDYyMTFfOTMzMUFBQTU=] [quote:demantix:MV84NzI1OTBfNzAwNDQ1NDNfQUYwRUUxQzI=] [quote:Chaol 1175482:MV84NzI1OTBfMjA3MDkyMjVfNDc3N0I1MzU=] When you're perceiving the Sun, for example, you're actually perceiving another yourself, not how the Sun actually is. (This isn't new age talk. It's scientific 'fact') [/quote] How is no one quoting this nonsense? This is not even new-age talk, this is pure neo-advaita religious gibberish. How this troll even says this is "scientific fact"??? This is a trolling act or what? The sun is not a "self" and it's not another "you". The sun is the sun and you do actually perceive it how it is, otherwise you perceive what? Even if you didn't perceive it entirely how it is (indirect realism) the sun would still not be another yourself, this is made up religious advaita-talk added by him. Pure nonsense. Those who claim that personal awareness and individual consciousness are illusions do not know what they are talking about. :rant: [/quote] That statement was about not being able to perceive the Sun directly (for what it is). When you perceive the Sun you are interpreting signals, not perceiving directly. That is, indeed, scientific fact. It's how the senses work. But welcome back. If you really thought it was religious alphabeta talk, I suppose you wouldn't continue to visit. [/quote] No, I didn't think it was religious crackpottery, it indeed is. Actually, you're arguing subjective idealism claiming it's science when it's obviously not. You claimed "when you see the sun you're interpreting signals", this is obviously false, if this was true, you wouldn't need eyes and its billions of cells and functions to see, only a small hole in your head that would receive signals from the sun and interpret what is out there, no. You eyes are 98% responsible for your vision (98% vision problems occur in the eyes), your brain is just the processor of what your eyes detect. Yes, color is real and part of the material world, for your frustration. And please, cut off that stupid idioticy "when you see the sun you look at your reflection" or whatever religious unscientific woo this even means. EVEN IF you subjective idealism was true, that still wouldn't mean the sun is part of yourself or whatever you're getting this religious woo claim. Let's imagine this fake situtation, let's inagine we didn't need eyes to see, we just had a ball in our head that would receive red wavelenght signals from outside, and the rest the brain would do, only brightness and light would be external, color would be more of a hallucination of your brain. That would still have NOTHING to do with the sun being entangled with you, or having your essence. The sun would still exist independent of yiu, YOU WOULD STILL BE RECEIVING SIGNALS FROM OUTSIDE, the sun would still not be a quantum reflection of you, signals are still coming from outside you not from inside, if there was nothing there, there wouldn't be a need for you to have a ball to receive anything external, it's outside-in. Let that sink in. [/quote]
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Hello!
I have been living in this world for some time now.
I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours.
I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future.
* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.
We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different.
If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science.
This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting.
If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know.
Thanks.
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