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US Postal Service Mulling 3 Day Delivery

 
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US Postal Service Mulling 3 Day Delivery
Postal Service Urged to Weigh Three-Days-a-Week Mail

March 04, 2010, 4:18 PM EST

By Angela Greiling Keane

March 4 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Postal Service, facing a
$238 billion budget deficit by 2020, should consider cutting delivery to as few as three days a week as the agency
ed dramatically in the last 40 years, but some of the laws that govern the Postal Service have not,” Postmaster General John Potter said in a March 2 statement. “These laws need to be modernized to reflect today’s economic and business challenges and the dramatic impact the Internet has had on American life.”
Retail Locations

The Postal Service has 36,500 retail locations, more than twice as many as McDonald’s Corp. and more than triple the number of Starbucks Corp. outlets, New York-based McKinsey said.

“The Postal Service urgently needs a more flexible business model to best meet America’s changing mailing needs and consumer patterns,” said Sue Brennan, a Postal Service spokeswoman. “The volume of mail that funds the organization is declining at such a rate that we need to be able to adapt, and without flexibility we cannot.”
Asked about the possibility of trimming service to three days, Brennan said that the agency is “only focusing on five- day delivery.” Potter requested the consultants “investigate all possible options. And one of the options was to decrease mail delivery in some areas to three days due to lack of mail volume,” Brennan said.

The service said in January it’s reviewing 162 post offices, stations and branches for possible closing, down from an earlier review last year of 3,600 locations. The agency isn’t considering closing facilities in places such as small towns that are served by only one retail location.
‘System Would Collapse’

We believe three-day delivery would result in the demise of the Postal Service,” Sally Davidow, a spokeswoman for the American Postal Workers Union, said in an e-mail. “The USPS would become irrelevant, and the nation’s government-sponsored mail system would collapse.”

The Postal Service expects to lose about $7 billion in the fiscal year ending Sept. 30, with debt expanding to $13.2 billion, approaching its $15 billion debt limit, Chief Financial Officer Joseph Corbett told reporters last month.
Privatizing the Postal Service, as countries including Germany and the Netherlands have done, is an “unlikely” option for the U.S. because it wouldn’t be attractive to investors, McKinsey said.

The Postal Service said in a statement today that it will offer “sale” prices to some customers July 1 to Sept. 30, the second such program in a year. The service will give 30 percent rebates on standard-mail letters and flats to those participants who ship at least 5 percent more than their mail volume in the same period last year.
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Easy fix for this... just charge the same for junk mail as they do a regular first class letter.
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easy fix

take it out of control of the gobment and it might run better.
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American Letter Mail Company

The American Letter Mail Company was started by Lysander Spooner in 1844, competing with the legal monopoly of the United States Post Office (USPO) (now the USPS) in violation of the Private Express Statutes. It succeeded in delivering mail for lower prices, but the U.S. Government challenged Spooner with legal measures, eventually forcing him to cease operations in 1851.[1]

Competition with the U.S. Post Office Department

Spooner's intentions were founded on both an ethical perspective, as he considered government monopoly to be an immoral restriction, as well as an economic analysis, as he believed that 5 cents was sufficient to send mail throughout the country. The American Letter Mail Company was able to reduce the price of its stamps significantly and even offered free local delivery, significantly undercutting the 12 cent stamp being sold by the Post Office Department. Although the business was forced by the U.S. Government to close shop after only a few years, it succeeded in temporarily driving down the cost of government delivered mail.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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And we want them to run health care?
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And we want them to run health care?
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Exactly

I guess we will have three day health care.
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And we want them to run health care?
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"Let me get this straight......we're trying to pass a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says
he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a
president that also hasn't read it and who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay
his taxes, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke.

What the hell could possibly go wrong?
"
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kevin costner will save us
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Easy fix for this... just charge the same for junk mail as they do a regular first class letter.
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If you did that, you destroy the postal service completely and the rest of the economy.
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American Letter Mail Company

The American Letter Mail Company was started by Lysander Spooner in 1844, competing with the legal monopoly of the United States Post Office (USPO) (now the USPS) in violation of the Private Express Statutes. It succeeded in delivering mail for lower prices, but the U.S. Government challenged Spooner with legal measures, eventually forcing him to cease operations in 1851.[1]

Competition with the U.S. Post Office Department

Spooner's intentions were founded on both an ethical perspective, as he considered government monopoly to be an immoral restriction, as well as an economic analysis, as he believed that 5 cents was sufficient to send mail throughout the country. The American Letter Mail Company was able to reduce the price of its stamps significantly and even offered free local delivery, significantly undercutting the 12 cent stamp being sold by the Post Office Department. Although the business was forced by the U.S. Government to close shop after only a few years, it succeeded in temporarily driving down the cost of government delivered mail.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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gasp
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easy fix

take it out of control of the gobment and it might run better.
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The US Postal Service is a privately owned Business. Dumbass. When did u fail school? oh that's right you believe everything your govt tells you. ooops! Just becuase you work for the Postal service and they get off the same holidays as the govt employees, doesn't meant they are truly govt.

Read the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1988. That should open your eyes.
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I'll help them out. I would be willing to pay a couple of bucks a month, or say ten bucks a year to not receive any junk mail.
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pretty soon we won't need the USPS. we'll just be chipped.
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easy fix

take it out of control of the gobment and it might run better.



The US Postal Service is a privately owned Business. Dumbass. When did u fail school? oh that's right you believe everything your govt tells you. ooops! Just becuase you work for the Postal service and they get off the same holidays as the govt employees, doesn't meant they are truly govt.

Read the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1988. That should open your eyes
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postal reorganization act of 1970
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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I happen to totally agree........I get almost nothing but
junk mail. 3 days a week would save money but too bad for
all those union workers. The unions are slowly but surely being broken....going from $60 an hour to $10 is going to
suck for alot of us.
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The Postal Service should go away entirely. It's about as relevant as the Pony Express at this point.
Throwing more erroneous useless information into the original arguement.
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A couple of years ago about three weeks before Christmas, I noticed we had not gotten any mail for four days. It stood out to me because I was expecting an important piece of mail. I happened to be coming home as the mail truck arrived on day four, so I waited in the driveway. The mail carrier was only two doors down. Anyway, he speeds on by the house and I note that he is not our regular carrier.

Anyway, I called the post office a bit later and mentioned we had not gotten mail in several days and how unusual that was. In my mind I was thinking even junk mail would have shown up by then. But I only mentioned the mail we were expecting.

The lady on the phone says "Maam, you sometimes you have to order catalogs, they are not automatic."

WTF? Who said anything...anyway I told her it was business mail.

So then she says our carrier just walked in. She asked him about it, and he told her to tell me that we just don't get much mail.

That next monday, we got so much mail our regular carrier could barely stuff it in the box. My piece of mail that I had been expecting was there.
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Easy fix for this... just charge the same for junk mail as they do a regular first class letter.
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BINGO! + 1,000,000
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The Postal Service should go away entirely. It's about as relevant as the Pony Express at this point.
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listen people, we NEED the usps. think about it. it really is the last form of private communication we citizens have between us.
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Postage prices probably ARE the reason that mail volume is declining.

So far, I've resisted on-line banking, but looks like it may be time to start using it. About all I need the mail for anyway is paying bills, so I'll just save the price of postage. I used to send a lot of Christmas cards, but for several years I've only sent them to family that aren't "family" enough for gifts!
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Easy fix for this... just charge the same for junk mail as they do a regular first class letter.
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Solution is good, and another one would be to make junk mail illegal and anyone who sends junk mail would be fined - fines going strait to USPS. Since a lot of junk mail is credit card offers, you know they would have the money to pay the rate or the fine since they make all that interest off people's credit cards!
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Postage prices probably ARE the reason that mail volume is declining.

So far, I've resisted on-line banking, but looks like it may be time to start using it. About all I need the mail for anyway is paying bills, so I'll just save the price of postage. I used to send a lot of Christmas cards, but for several years I've only sent them to family that aren't "family" enough for gifts!
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Only part true. The INTERNET has replaced snail mail. I used to snail mail family & friends, but now none of them get snail mail at all, with the exception of Christmas and birthdays. Bills are also paid online quite a bit, so you don't even really need snail mail for that. There are numerous electronic tax programs online so less people are mailing in to the IRS. Besides it takes 10 days to get an online filed refund compared to 6 weeks when mailed in. All these factors combined.
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A couple of years ago about three weeks before Christmas, I noticed we had not gotten any mail for four days. It stood out to me because I was expecting an important piece of mail. I happened to be coming home as the mail truck arrived on day four, so I waited in the driveway. The mail carrier was only two doors down. Anyway, he speeds on by the house and I note that he is not our regular carrier.

Anyway, I called the post office a bit later and mentioned we had not gotten mail in several days and how unusual that was. In my mind I was thinking even junk mail would have shown up by then. But I only mentioned the mail we were expecting.

The lady on the phone says "Maam, you sometimes you have to order catalogs, they are not automatic."

WTF? Who said anything...anyway I told her it was business mail.

So then she says our carrier just walked in. She asked him about it, and he told her to tell me that we just don't get much mail.

That next monday, we got so much mail our regular carrier could barely stuff it in the box. My piece of mail that I had been expecting was there.
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is "NEWMAN" your carrier??

5a
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A couple of years ago about three weeks before Christmas, I noticed we had not gotten any mail for four days. It stood out to me because I was expecting an important piece of mail. I happened to be coming home as the mail truck arrived on day four, so I waited in the driveway. The mail carrier was only two doors down. Anyway, he speeds on by the house and I note that he is not our regular carrier.

Anyway, I called the post office a bit later and mentioned we had not gotten mail in several days and how unusual that was. In my mind I was thinking even junk mail would have shown up by then. But I only mentioned the mail we were expecting.

The lady on the phone says "Maam, you sometimes you have to order catalogs, they are not automatic."

WTF? Who said anything...anyway I told her it was business mail.

So then she says our carrier just walked in. She asked him about it, and he told her to tell me that we just don't get much mail.

That next monday, we got so much mail our regular carrier could barely stuff it in the box. My piece of mail that I had been expecting was there.



is "NEWMAN" your carrier??

5a
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lmao
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And we want them to run health care?


"Let me get this straight......we're trying to pass a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says
he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a
president that also hasn't read it and who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay
his taxes, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke.

What the hell could possibly go wrong?
"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 647873



That is absolutely incredible isn't it?

But......we have to remember that this health care bill isn't about health care at all. It is all about the complete take over of control of all persons in the USA including the part about ending your life.
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That next monday, we got so much mail our regular carrier could barely stuff it in the box. My piece of mail that I had been expecting was there.



is "NEWMAN" your carrier??


5a
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:lilofp2:
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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It is more about feds snooping & total control of the mail, and feds coming by the house every day.

Once a week is plenty for most. And NO junk mail or advertising. Cutting junk mail would reduce the work load dramatically.

If we want to buy something we can look for it without being solicited.
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There is only one solution to get this defunct organization out of the hands of the Government. Privatize first class mail delivery. Get some competition out there to deliver the mail and a new system that works will be created.
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I like their new system of collect from sender, well you may as well.
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It is all about CONTROL. They want everyone off paper and cash - once that is done, they will have us by the short hairs.

Tell the average American how much money the government will save by reducing mail to 3 times per week and they will demand it, never stopping to think about the repercussions. It is similar to the TV switch from analog to digital - CONTROL.
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Are they making noises in hopes of being offered a "bail-out"?

What's going to happen to the properties they own and lease? There's alot of real estate connected to the Post Office.

(In the '60's in my little town we had mail delivery twice a day, morning and afternoon.

Letters were postmarked with date AND time.)





GLP