Gendercide: The World-Wide War On Baby Girls | |
Resister User ID: 669410 United States 03/09/2010 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
snark (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 817630 United States 03/09/2010 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know, right? And the cultural fallout from this will affect our world for a very, very long time. T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
LinSen User ID: 905794 China 03/09/2010 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is all the result of China's One-Child Policy. However, this is only the beginning of what's to come for China. In Chinese culture the son and his wife are to take care of the son's parents, hence the importance of having a son. Moreover, since China's One-Child policy, the wife's parents will suffer with no one to take care of them in old age. Even if the wife is able to give, the parents will not receive as much as the husband's parents. To add to the dilemma, all of these men who will not find a bride will be forced to take care of his parents alone when they become old thus putting greater pressure on the unmarried son. And the final blow will be when the unmarried son is old with no one to take care of him and a lone empty limb on the family tree. |
Wraithwynd User ID: 717743 United States 03/09/2010 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And what do we do about the billions upon billions upon billions? China made an attempt to curb its every growing population. Maybe with little success, but it was an attempt. On the one hand we have the murder of millions of baby girls. On the other we have the total collapse of the ecology under the weight of our sheer numbers. Pick one. Sinkhole list: Thread: Sinkholes Updated 28 Dec 2010 find a sinkhole, add it to this thread, please. "Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." (1 John 3:15, NKJV). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 746756 United States 03/09/2010 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And what do we do about the billions upon billions upon billions? Quoting: WraithwyndChina made an attempt to curb its every growing population. Maybe with little success, but it was an attempt. On the one hand we have the murder of millions of baby girls. On the other we have the total collapse of the ecology under the weight of our sheer numbers. Pick one. how bout you go in the slop bucket then? |
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snark (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 817630 United States 03/09/2010 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a problem with the link (for me) Quoting: Um, Huh?[link to www.economist.com] Try this one...will fix in the post. T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
snark (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 817630 United States 03/09/2010 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And what do we do about the billions upon billions upon billions? Quoting: WraithwyndChina made an attempt to curb its every growing population. Maybe with little success, but it was an attempt. On the one hand we have the murder of millions of baby girls. On the other we have the total collapse of the ecology under the weight of our sheer numbers. Pick one. Total Collapse Of The Ecology? What rubbish and vanity. T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
snark (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 817630 United States 03/09/2010 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sobs on the night breeze The centre of global gendercideMar 4th 2010 | From The Economist print edition So hold her tight: Message from an Unknown Chinese Mother: Stories of Loss and Love. By Xinran. Chatto & Windus; 224 pages; £16.99. Buy from Amazon.co.uk DURING the past 30 years of economic reform, China has made what is probably history’s largest single improvement to human welfare, lifting hundreds of millions out of poverty. Yet millions have also been crushed by the vast engine of Chinese growth—and it is among these that Xinran Xue (who uses only her first name) finds her stories. In previous works of oral history, she has rescued from the chaos that is modern Chinese record-keeping personal narratives of her grandparents’ generation (“China Witness”, 2008) and of women caught in China’s endless political turmoil (“The Good Women of China”, 2002). In her latest book, “Message from an Unknown Chinese Mother”, she turns to the relationship between women and their daughters in tales of loss and often unthinkable heartache. Visiting a peasant family in Shandong, she sees a newborn baby girl snatched from her mother and dumped headfirst in the chamber pot: the head of the family demands a son and, because of the one-child policy, will not let the daughter live. Two years later, the young couple pays Xinran a visit. They, along with the rest of the young people, have left their village to look for work in cities. The mother says she had two more daughters but her father-in-law gave them away to foreigners for adoption. “Have you seen any foreigners?” she asks Xinran, fearfully. “Do you think the foreigners know how to hold my baby?” Xinran now runs a charity in London for adopted Chinese children. But from 1989 to 1997 she presented one of China’s best-known local radio programmes, “Words on the Night Breeze”, in the southern city of Nanjing. Some narratives, such as that from Shandong, came to her because of her work. But what is astounding is how many she just happens upon, as if such tales are lying all around. At the tiny restaurant where Xinran eats lunch, the waitress tries to kill herself twice, each time after a little girl’s birthday party. The woman is tortured by the happy faces because, thinking it her duty to produce a male heir, she had smothered her baby daughters. She survives because, as well as the bottle of agricultural fertiliser she swallowed, she drank one of washing-up liquid, thinking that any chemical in a bottle was poison. The detergent diluted the fertiliser’s fatal dose. Cycling to work one winter’s day, Xinran has a flat tyre. The woman who repairs her bicycle turns out to have been a midwife. Under the author’s patient questioning, she reveals the pricing system of her trade: three times the normal price for a first-born son; six times more if the father is first-born, too; yet more if a daughter is “done”. The trick is to strangle the baby with the umbilical cord as it emerges, and call it stillborn. Most of Xinran’s mothers submit stoically to the cruelties of “son preference” and the one-child policy. But a few go to extraordinary lengths to have more than one child. On a train journey she meets one of China’s so-called “extra-birth guerrilla troops”—families with daughters who leave home and move secretly from city to city, hoping to escape the birth-control regulators long enough to produce a son. The father rocks his daughter tenderly to sleep, as he explains the dangers of their life. At the next stop, Xinran sees the young girl talking to a food seller on the platform and waves goodbye, assuming the family has got off. But later she meets the father on the train: he has abandoned his beloved daughter to strangers because his wife is expecting another child and the family cannot hide more than one. She was the fourth daughter they had given up. One might perhaps object that some of Xinran’s stories are not as typical as she implies: she blames the unflinching “son preference” of traditional Confucian culture for the families’ decisions to abandon or kill their daughters. But, in fact, the number of “missing girls” is highest in richer, better-educated provinces: prenatal ultrasound scans and selective abortion have proved even deadlier to girls than the cruel dictates of village elders. But this is quibbling. The core of “Message from an Unknown Chinese Mother” is the individual stories of women who have lost their daughters. One would have to have a heart of stone not to be moved by them. [link to www.economist.com] Last Edited by snark on 03/09/2010 10:40 AM T For Texas, T For Tennessee! 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LinSen User ID: 905794 China 03/09/2010 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What you don't realize snark is that it is the necessity of the people to have a boy. If you read my first post you would see why. It's sad to say but it isn't their 'fault' that they 'murder' their newborn daughter. China has taken steps in in the last decade to ban ultrasounds so parents won't know what gender their baby is so as to avoid abortions. It's a highly complex situation in China right now, and if anything it should be blamed on the government. But they can't control the beast that they've created. Having said that, this aspect of Chinese culture stems way before the One-Child Policy. In fact, some elderly Chinese people that I've spoken with have talked about leaving their first born children, if girls, because it was imperative to have a male first to ensure that there would be someone to take care of them. Not only this but women were a much larger responsibility then since they had zero social status compared to men. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 782778 United States 03/09/2010 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | India is just as bad. Far majority of abortions in India are baby girls. These are called sex selection abortions. Population Research Institute documents this sex selection: [link to pop.org] ie. "Infanticide, Abortion Responsible for 60 Million Girls Missing In Asia" (Foxnews.com) (PRI in the News/Articles) ... but sex-selective abortions or female feticide is a crime. In 1994, the government enacted the Preconception and Prenatal Diagnostic Techniques Act (PC & PNDT), which prohibited those conducting and ie. "Pro-Life Leader Blames Feminist Groups for Slaughter of Girls" (PRI Update/Press Releases) ... China, India, and other Asian countries, there is a strong preference for boys," Mosher says. "This combination of a preference for boys and modern technology—the ultrasound machine—has ... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 462983 United States 03/09/2010 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Between China and Indonesia the numbers of lost women is at 85 million. [link to www.google.com] |
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snark (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 817630 United States 03/09/2010 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 462983 So incredibly sad that the eugenicists have dealt us this global blow. The increase of violence and crimes against women will continue to vastly increase worldwide because of this insanity. Watch out for your daughters. T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
mj-13 User ID: 860177 United States 03/09/2010 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I cannot fathom the idea of this. My life would be meaningless without the women in my family. I wouldn't be alive today (like all of us) without having a mother. And my wife and daughter mean the world to me. Without women, there would be no human race. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 428255 Bulgaria 03/09/2010 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I cannot fathom the idea of this. My life would be meaningless without the women in my family. I wouldn't be alive today (like all of us) without having a mother. And my wife and daughter mean the world to me. Without women, there would be no human race. Quoting: mj-13Yea but they are an extremely evil and brainwashed society that only cares about profit. |
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mj-13 User ID: 860177 United States 03/09/2010 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I cannot fathom the idea of this. My life would be meaningless without the women in my family. I wouldn't be alive today (like all of us) without having a mother. And my wife and daughter mean the world to me. Without women, there would be no human race. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255Yea but they are an extremely evil and brainwashed society that only cares about profit. Women are extremly evil? Sounds like you have a negative outlook because of your past. I too have had negative experiences just like most men. My heart has been broken enough times to know this. But not all women are evil. Are you going to say the same about men? You don't believe there are men out there that are evil??? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 428255 Bulgaria 03/09/2010 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I cannot fathom the idea of this. My life would be meaningless without the women in my family. I wouldn't be alive today (like all of us) without having a mother. And my wife and daughter mean the world to me. Without women, there would be no human race. Quoting: mj-13Yea but they are an extremely evil and brainwashed society that only cares about profit. Women are extremly evil? Sounds like you have a negative outlook because of your past. I too have had negative experiences just like most men. My heart has been broken enough times to know this. But not all women are evil. Are you going to say the same about men? You don't believe there are men out there that are evil??? Umm no, i meant chinese (And not only) |
mj-13 User ID: 860177 United States 03/09/2010 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I cannot fathom the idea of this. My life would be meaningless without the women in my family. I wouldn't be alive today (like all of us) without having a mother. And my wife and daughter mean the world to me. Without women, there would be no human race. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255Yea but they are an extremely evil and brainwashed society that only cares about profit. Women are extremly evil? Sounds like you have a negative outlook because of your past. I too have had negative experiences just like most men. My heart has been broken enough times to know this. But not all women are evil. Are you going to say the same about men? You don't believe there are men out there that are evil??? Umm no, i meant chinese (And not only) The Chinese gov't. Yes they are evil. |
mj-13 User ID: 860177 United States 03/09/2010 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I cannot fathom the idea of this. My life would be meaningless without the women in my family. I wouldn't be alive today (like all of us) without having a mother. And my wife and daughter mean the world to me. Without women, there would be no human race. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255Yea but they are an extremely evil and brainwashed society that only cares about profit. Women are extremly evil? Sounds like you have a negative outlook because of your past. I too have had negative experiences just like most men. My heart has been broken enough times to know this. But not all women are evil. Are you going to say the same about men? You don't believe there are men out there that are evil??? Umm no, i meant chinese (And not only) Oh, and most gov'ts these days are. Including ours. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 428255 Bulgaria 03/09/2010 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I cannot fathom the idea of this. My life would be meaningless without the women in my family. I wouldn't be alive today (like all of us) without having a mother. And my wife and daughter mean the world to me. Without women, there would be no human race. Quoting: mj-13Yea but they are an extremely evil and brainwashed society that only cares about profit. Women are extremly evil? Sounds like you have a negative outlook because of your past. I too have had negative experiences just like most men. My heart has been broken enough times to know this. But not all women are evil. Are you going to say the same about men? You don't believe there are men out there that are evil??? Umm no, i meant chinese (And not only) Oh, and most gov'ts these days are. Including ours. Well it is, but it`s not the government that kills babies. Would you kill your baby just because your government is evil with a fucked-up politics? There`s the difference. They are just inhuman... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 428255 Bulgaria 03/09/2010 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I cannot wait for Our Lord to come down and smite this place. His Justice will be awesome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 906708keep waiting 85 million girl baby martyrs are restlessly waiting, too... So how many times have you seen "god" punishing the evil? I see more punishment on the good. |
LinSen User ID: 905794 China 03/09/2010 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hate? Did u read what i posted? Ultrasounds have exasperated the whole sale deaths of baby girls. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 782778Eugenics have everything to do with this genocide! Of course, infanticide is nothing new in Asia. But what is happening now is unparalled pushed by David Rockefeller, UN, Planned Parenthood, NGOs on China. You are either lazy or intellectually dishonest. Probably the second. Hate? The hatred of baby girls PUSHED BY NGOs and United Nations Population Fund. I WILL LINK IT AGAIN. POPULATION RESEARCH INSTITUTE. Steven Mosher spent years in China and documented it. [link to www.pop.org] I read the site, especially the horror stories portrayed by Mosher. And while I admit that crazy shit like that does take place in China, it is not as frequent or common as he lets on. In China, 2/3 of the population lives in rural areas and this part of the population is not limited by the One-Child policy. The policy only applies to people living in cities. Though Mosher doesn't say this on the website does he? Having said that, eugenics is meant to 'perfect' a species in some way. How is only allowing one child perfecting the human species? And how does any of this apply to the western world? I've lived in China for many years and contrary to what that site tells you, population is a HUGE crisis in China. Live a little and don't trust everything you read. Not even me if it makes you feel any better... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 656642 United States 03/09/2010 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I cannot wait for Our Lord to come down and smite this place. His Justice will be awesome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255keep waiting 85 million girl baby martyrs are restlessly waiting, too... So how many times have you seen "god" punishing the evil? I see more punishment on the good. Sadly, that is more oft the case; the good people seem to suffer more than the evil ones. 85 million females gone...wow...that means that 85 million men will not have a female to propagate with in the future. It is a very sad, troubling time that we live in. I truly do hope that some type of "cosmic" earth changing event happens that will better humanity, because right now the atrocities that man commits against man is horrendous. |
sl User ID: 911063 Poland 03/09/2010 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the last documented witch hunt took place in mozambique in 2002, the last one in europe took place in russia 1997 O.O the gender wars never ceased, not only in china. oh and it started i think witch Apache tribes and Incas. that's preety sad isn't it. btw data from behringer Witchcraft and Witch-Hunts book from 2004 |