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Whats the Tree of knowledge and Tree of Life | |
| Sparky User ID: 912984  Israel03/11/2010 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 912669  United Kingdom03/11/2010 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sin of the golden calf and the sin of the “Tree of knowledge of good and evil “ is all in God’s will. One needs to look at all things from the perspective that they are occurring before the Creator, and know it is all part of ”tikun”. (fixing of the worlds) All is in the will of GOD. Thinking that the ”fallen kings” (source of evil) is a separate thing from what GOD intended and wanted was the error that caused Nimrod and his contemporaries to fall. There is nothing that happens in the world outside of the will of GOD.1 Quoting: Sparky 9129841. 1sulam on zoharHakdamah Tikunim p.349,Avodat Yisrael p.21,45 There were 8 blemishes to our consciousness created by Adam and Eve eating from the ”Tree of knowledge”: I will not explain the damages here, this would take a book in itself to do that. Rabbi Nachman Teaches issues of “doubt“ are a aspect of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, which is “klippa Noga” (the shiny shell-trapped light). In the midst of the Torah is the “Tree of Life”. You got to get the sparks of light away from the “evil shells” which create doubts concerning the Divine things. Then you can nourish from the Tree of life, the essence of God’s Torah. GOD created Adam in Asiyah ,( the lowest, the physical world) where all the lights descend to. So that he understands all worlds binding them together yielding the power to purify all of the “the Tree of knowledge of good and evil” meriting revelation and bringing joy in all worlds.1 1. 1aor enym-kamarna Rebbe p.10 The field outside of the Garden of Eden is Malchut (God’s presence). In this field is the ” tree of knowledge ” of good and evil. Inside the Garden of Eden itself is the ”Tree of life”.1 1. 1Lekutey Maharon p.84 This is a very comprehensive look at these issues read the rest here [link to godssecret.wordpress.com] Can't be arsed to read the rest. You're forgetting about the flaming sword though. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 912984 Israel03/11/2010 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sin of the golden calf and the sin of the “Tree of knowledge of good and evil “ is all in God’s will. One needs to look at all things from the perspective that they are occurring before the Creator, and know it is all part of ”tikun”. (fixing of the worlds) All is in the will of GOD. Thinking that the ”fallen kings” (source of evil) is a separate thing from what GOD intended and wanted was the error that caused Nimrod and his contemporaries to fall. There is nothing that happens in the world outside of the will of GOD.1 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9126691. 1sulam on zoharHakdamah Tikunim p.349,Avodat Yisrael p.21,45 There were 8 blemishes to our consciousness created by Adam and Eve eating from the ”Tree of knowledge”: I will not explain the damages here, this would take a book in itself to do that. Rabbi Nachman Teaches issues of “doubt“ are a aspect of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, which is “klippa Noga” (the shiny shell-trapped light). In the midst of the Torah is the “Tree of Life”. You got to get the sparks of light away from the “evil shells” which create doubts concerning the Divine things. Then you can nourish from the Tree of life, the essence of God’s Torah. GOD created Adam in Asiyah ,( the lowest, the physical world) where all the lights descend to. So that he understands all worlds binding them together yielding the power to purify all of the “the Tree of knowledge of good and evil” meriting revelation and bringing joy in all worlds.1 1. 1aor enym-kamarna Rebbe p.10 The field outside of the Garden of Eden is Malchut (God’s presence). In this field is the ” tree of knowledge ” of good and evil. Inside the Garden of Eden itself is the ”Tree of life”.1 1. 1Lekutey Maharon p.84 This is a very comprehensive look at these issues read the rest here [link to godssecret.wordpress.com] Can't be arsed to read the rest. You're forgetting about the flaming sword though. at the link this goes on for pages just about the trees the sword is a whole other thing to deal with |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 911708 United Kingdom03/11/2010 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to smphillips.8m.com] It has an outer and an inner form, hitherto unknown and revealed at this website. It also has a polyhedral form described here for the first time, where it is shown to be equivalent to the sacred geometry of the Sri Yantra. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 895390 United States03/11/2010 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's bullshit. That's what it is. Sorry. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 912984you are not very intelligent Oooohhhhh.........my IQ and sheepskin from Notre Dame would differ with you......I've seen and heard this malarky many times over. It's allegorical bullshit. FAIL. |
| autoimmune, nli User ID: 889482 United States03/11/2010 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are the age-old choice between knowledge and love, the means by which the world has been tested since the Garden: Do we choose knowledge ABOUT God or love OF God as our route to Him? The Tree of Life is Christ's cross . . . love expressed as Christ showed by example, by being a servant to others and putting their good before our own. The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is exactly what it says it is: thinking we can justly judge the goodness in ourselves and evil in others without reference to Love . . . this is the original sin all men are born with, what Christ saves us from. Mary Ellen |
RexKristos  User ID: 908143 United States03/11/2010 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The tree of knowledge is horizontal... The tree of life is vertical.... "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
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| RexKristos User ID: 908143 United States03/11/2010 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | most trees are made of wood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 913075This one's made of conjecture.... "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 895390 United States03/11/2010 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is all rhetorical/allegorical misconstruction. This topic and the two witnesses topic are mental tapioca for the brains of Christians. They lead to endless, pointless debates wherein everyone has their own pet versions that are self-styled, ornate and infinitely complex - as if the level and style of appointment confers a tacit credibility. It's all bullshit. None of it exists or has any tether to reality or actual universal functioning. |
| RexKristos User ID: 908143 United States03/11/2010 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is all rhetorical/allegorical misconstruction. This topic and the two witnesses topic are mental tapioca for the brains of Christians. They lead to endless, pointless debates wherein everyone has their own pet versions that are self-styled, ornate and infinitely complex - as if the level and style of appointment confers a tacit credibility. It's all bullshit. None of it exists or has any tether to reality or actual universal functioning. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 895390Way before christians... You have not been doing you homework. pretty simple to see behind the allegorical complexity TOK = what you think TOL = what thinks you. "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 895390 United States03/11/2010 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is all rhetorical/allegorical misconstruction. This topic and the two witnesses topic are mental tapioca for the brains of Christians. They lead to endless, pointless debates wherein everyone has their own pet versions that are self-styled, ornate and infinitely complex - as if the level and style of appointment confers a tacit credibility. It's all bullshit. None of it exists or has any tether to reality or actual universal functioning. Quoting: RexKristosWay before christians... You have not been doing you homework. pretty simple to see behind the allegorical complexity TOK = what you think TOL = what thinks you. Doesn't matter when or where from it derives. It's bullshit. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 913108  Slovakia03/11/2010 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All is in the will of GOD. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 912984FREE -WILL thats the ultimate paradox "all is foreseen, yet there is freedom of choice" at certian times free will is removed for a reason at the time only God knows pretty much No paradox there. "all is foreseen" by God, not by you. |
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| RexKristos User ID: 908143 United States03/11/2010 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doesn't matter when or where from it derives. It's bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 895390I hope you don't wash babies often..... "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
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| RexKristos User ID: 908143 United States03/11/2010 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doesn't matter when or where from it derives. It's bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 895390I hope you don't wash babies often..... OK EVERYONE. HANDS IN THE AIR. WTF DOES THAT MEAN?  Crack me up  An insinuation that you have a tendency to "throw the baby out with the bath water." edit:A citation from the grammer police. Last Edited by Apotheosis Rex Khristos on 03/11/2010 03:20 PM "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
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| RexKristos User ID: 908143 United States03/11/2010 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, my. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 895390An insinuation that you have a tendacy to "through the baby out with the bath water." The grammar police are coming to get you...... Oh they got me a long time ago and phucked up my fonetics.  "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 913410 Israel03/11/2010 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's bullshit. That's what it is. Sorry. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 895390you are not very intelligent Oooohhhhh.........my IQ and sheepskin from Notre Dame would differ with you......I've seen and heard this malarky many times over. It's allegorical bullshit. FAIL. The writing of The Ar"i alone are over 20 volumes you cant judge something till you know it and I know you have not learn even that. There are many spiritual path the God has given this meditation technique is not for all presented here is part of the picture It take the say 13 year to begin to "truly" work this type of meditation And I does work learn about some of the master in this work like Bava Sali That is the proof ! Do not be so quick to condemn |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 913410 Israel03/11/2010 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are the age-old choice between knowledge and love, the means by which the world has been tested since the Garden: Quoting: autoimmune, nli 889482Do we choose knowledge ABOUT God or love OF God as our route to Him? The Tree of Life is Christ's cross . . . love expressed as Christ showed by example, by being a servant to others and putting their good before our own. The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is exactly what it says it is: thinking we can justly judge the goodness in ourselves and evil in others without reference to Love . . . this is the original sin all men are born with, what Christ saves us from. Mary Ellen not quite knowledge can be used for bad or good the Point is by knowledge of another one's love Grows Adam "knew" Eve From correct "Divine knowledge" one come to know how to act correctly and know and Love God and the creation One learns how to Love By this one taste from the tree of Eternal life |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 902409 United States03/11/2010 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The tree represents human consciousness or the Self. At the base of the tree there lives a serpent who cannot be disentangled from the Self. Only by contemplating the nature of the Self can one redeem the serpent and thereby obtain the fruits of the tree of life. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 913410 Israel03/11/2010 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tree of Knowledge = marijuana. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 757124Tree of Life = No one knows since it was taken from us. We do know "Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace. She is a tree of life to those who lay hold on her; and happy is every one who holds her fast." King Solomon is referring to the TORAH (Proverbs) |
