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Clinic: Cancer Patient Who Wrote to Obama Will Not Lose Home, May Get AidFOXNews.com


Natoma Canfield, the cancer-stricken woman who has become a centerpiece of President Obama's push for health care reform, will not lose her home over her medical bills and will probably qualify for financial aid, a top official at the Cleveland medical center treating her told FoxNews.com.

Natoma Canfield, the cancer-stricken woman who has become a centerpiece of President Obama's push for health care reform, will not lose her home over her medical bills and will probably qualify for financial aid, a top official at the Cleveland medical center treating her told FoxNews.com.

Though Canfield's sister Connie Anderson said her sibling is afraid she'll lose her house and Obama warned at an Ohio rally Monday that the patient is "racked with worry" about the cost of tests and treatment, she is already being screened for financial help.

Lyman Sornberger, executive director of patient financial services at the Cleveland Clinic, said "all indications" at the outset are that she will be considered for assistance.

"She may be eligible for state Medicaid ... and/or she will be eligible for charity (care) of some form or type. ... In my personal opinion, she will be eligible for something," he said, adding that Canfield should not be worried about losing her home.

"Cleveland Clinic will not put a lien on her home," he said.

Cleveland Clinic offers personal guides to patients like Canfield who are concerned about payment to try to match them up with programs that can provide full or partial assistance. One option is state Medicaid coverage, which Canfield did not have when she was admitted. Another is charity care that is routinely provided by the hospital, which is a nonprofit. Cleveland Clinic reported providing $99 million in charity care in 2008.

For the time being, Canfield is probably the clinic's most famous patient.

Canfield gained national attention after Obama publicized a letter she wrote to the White House in February. In the letter, she detailed how skyrocketing premiums had forced her off her insurance.

Canfield said in her letter that while she was diagnosed with a treatable form of cancer 16 years ago, she had been cancer-free for 11 years. But she said her premiums increased by over 25 percent last year, and that with a maximum deductible of $2,500 she had to pay about $10,000 for care in 2009 -- while her insurance company paid just over $900.

After learning recently that her premiums were about to increase by over 40 percent in 2010, Canfield dropped her plan, she said in the letter.

Since writing the letter and dropping her coverage, Canfield was diagnosed with Leukemia.

Obama said Monday during a stop in Strongsville, Ohio, that Canfield was rushed to the hospital last week after collapsing on a farm. She was then admitted to the Cleveland Clinic.

"She was very sick," Obama said. "She expects to face more than a month of aggressive chemotherapy. She is racked with worry not only about her illness but about the costs of the tests and the treatment that she's surely going to need to beat it."

Anderson said her sister expects to spend at least 28 days in the hospital. She said Canfield has her own cleaning business but does not have any kind of health coverage, adding that for now nobody is paying for her stay at the Cleveland Clinic.

But Sornberger said that even if Canfield doesn't qualify for charity care or Medicaid, "there's probably eight to 10 options that a patient has" to find payment.

"It doesn't stop there," he said.

Asked for comment, a representative for Canfield's old insurance company said "the cost of new drugs and hospital stays," along with the trend of healthy individuals dropping coverage, are behind the latest rate increases.

"Our associates ... work tirelessly every day to help ensure members have access to the best health care coverage at the best price," Kim Ashley, public relations director for Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield in Ohio, said in a written statement. She said the company "strongly shares our members' concerns over the rising cost of health care services and the resulting impact on health insurance premiums."

The Obama administration has gone aggressively after Anthem, demanding explanations for similar double-digit rate hikes in California.

FoxNews.com's Judson Berger and Fox News' Marla Cichowski contributed to this report.

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They've been using all of these 'sob stories' to manipulate the people. I can't believe they are stupid enough to fall for this. But, then again......they didn't do their homework and voted for a commie. 'American Idle'.
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And have you noticed the increase in Obama Shills in the past few days?

I wonder if our stimulus money, the money that should have gone to small business to actually stimulate the economy, is going to pay for these shills?

Well, at least you can see your tax dollars at work, they are at work to lie, deceive, and take your money and your rights, in this case , your right to be free of some bureaucrat saying that you don't get the care you need and the government lets you die. No aid, nowhere to go as Obama's prop--the cancer patient, is able to do now.

Shill away you treasonous ass holes, your days are numbered.

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What a selfish son of a bitch this Obama is. He wants this take over of 1/6th of our economy which is additional to the other take-overs, (auto industry, etc.).

He, directed by his Elite puppeteers, uses this cancer patient as a prop in a horrible display of his Narcissism and of the monster face of the N.W.O.

Can you imagine if they are willing to stoop this low and lie to you about her status--how would they treat you under the Soviet Style Health System? They telegraph their callous disregard for the American people by deceiving them in doing this--what on Earth would possess us to think that we'd not be lied to and treated as just objects to be manipulated like this woman under this garish system of Obamacare?

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Another day, another lie from our so-called President.

Are you angry yet?
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And have you noticed the increase in Obama Shills in the past few days?

I wonder if our stimulus money, the money that should have gone to small business to actually stimulate the economy, is going to pay for these shills?

Well, at least you can see your tax dollars at work, they are at work to lie, deceive, and take your money and your rights, in this case , your right to be free of some bureaucrat saying that you don't get the care you need and the government lets you die. No aid, nowhere to go as Obama's prop--the cancer patient, is able to do now.

Shill away you treasonous ass holes, your days are numbered.
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Yes they are called "Seminar callers" on radio shows and yes there are certainly plenty around the web and here as well.

Taking over medical care has always been a huge goal of the progressives...they are batshit insane because they think they are close to taking this hill....they will stop at nothing...

All propaganda is fully engaged in industrial scale warfare on this one....
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And have you noticed the increase in Obama Shills in the past few days?

I wonder if our stimulus money, the money that should have gone to small business to actually stimulate the economy, is going to pay for these shills?

Well, at least you can see your tax dollars at work, they are at work to lie, deceive, and take your money and your rights, in this case , your right to be free of some bureaucrat saying that you don't get the care you need and the government lets you die. No aid, nowhere to go as Obama's prop--the cancer patient, is able to do now.

Shill away you treasonous ass holes, your days are numbered.

Yes they are called "Seminar callers" on radio shows and yes there are certainly plenty around the web and here as well.

Taking over medical care has always been a huge goal of the progressives...they are batshit insane because they think they are close to taking this hill....they will stop at nothing...

All propaganda is fully engaged in industrial scale warfare on this one....
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Yes, that is true. We have to be "fully engaged" against them and their activities. We are unpaid and must act on prinicples alone. You wouldn't see most of the Shills if it weren't for the money they get which is really OUR money. They are stealing from us any hope at recovery and stealing our money.
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And have you noticed the increase in Obama Shills in the past few days?

I wonder if our stimulus money, the money that should have gone to small business to actually stimulate the economy, is going to pay for these shills?

Well, at least you can see your tax dollars at work, they are at work to lie, deceive, and take your money and your rights, in this case , your right to be free of some bureaucrat saying that you don't get the care you need and the government lets you die. No aid, nowhere to go as Obama's prop--the cancer patient, is able to do now.

Shill away you treasonous ass holes, your days are numbered.
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The ban on political campaign activity by charities and churches was created by Congress more than a half century ago. The Internal Revenue Service administers the tax laws written by Congress and has enforcement authority over tax-exempt organizations. Here is some background information on the political campaign activity ban and the latest IRS enforcement statistics regarding its administration of this congressional ban.
In 1954, Congress approved an amendment by Sen. Lyndon Johnson to prohibit 501(c)(3) organizations, which includes charities and churches, from engaging in any political campaign activity. To the extent Congress has revisited the ban over the years, it has in fact strengthened the ban. The most recent change came in 1987 when Congress amended the language to clarify that the prohibition also applies to statements opposing candidates.
Currently, the law prohibits political campaign activity by charities and churches by defining a 501(c)(3) organization as one "which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office."
The IRS has published Revenue Ruling 2007-41, which outlines how churches, and all 501(c)(3) organizations, can stay within the law regarding the ban on political activity. Also, the ban by Congress is on political campaign activity regarding a candidate; churches and other 501(c)(3) organizations can engage in a limited amount of lobbying (including ballot measures) and advocate for or against issues that are in the political arena. The IRS also has provided guidance regarding the difference between advocating for a candidate and advocating for legislation. See political and lobbying activities.
Earlier this year, the IRS released the results of its 2006 Political Activity Compliance Initiative which investigated allegations of political campaign activity by 501(c)(3) organizations during the 2006 campaign season. For the 2006 election cycle, the IRS received 237 referals and selected 100 (44 churches, 56 nonchurches) for examination. More than half of these cases are still under investigation. However, the IRS did substantiate improper political activity in 26 cases and issued written advisories. So far, there are no revocation recommendations.(In 2004, the IRS selected 110 cases for examination, issued 69 written advisories, revoked the tax-exempt status of five organizations and proposed revocation for two others.) Politics plays absolutely no role in audits. A team of career IRS employees review complaints submitted by the public and determine which allegations merit further review. An independent review confirmed that political considerations played no role in IRS decisions to further investigate allegations of political campaign activity. You can read the report here.
Each election cycle, the IRS reminds 501(c)(3) exempt organizations to be aware of the ban on political campaign activity. The IRS published its most recent reminder in a public news release which you can read here.
The division within the IRS responsible for overseeing churches and charities is the Tax Exempt and Government Entitities Division. TEGE has created a Web page entitled Charities, Churches, and Educational Organizations - Political Campaign Intervention. It is dedicated to the IRS most recent activities related to 501(c)(3) and political activity.
A definitive court case on the issue of free speech and political expression is Branch Ministries Inc. versus Rossotti. In that case, the court upheld the constitutionality of the ban on political activity. The court rejected the plaintiff church's allegations that it was being selectively prosecuted because of its conservative views and that its First Amendment right to free speech was being infringed.
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if this law is true, how could and can does acore do what they do?
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Well, truth doesn't matter to Obama or his band of usurpers. I just heard an audio clip of Obama saying to a crowd of dupes (about his Obamacare), that each employer would save 3,000 percent in premium costs. And he said that the employers could afford to give you a raise with that money.

Rush Limbaugh played the clip and used as an example of $4,000 in costs to the employer per employee. If Obama was telling the truth, then each employer would save $120,000 per employee on health care premiums giving many of them millions in profit from Obama's health care plan. Only one problem, it isn't true. To me, this is proof that Obama's education was bestowed on him by some group of like-minded usurpers. He has demonstrated time and time again his utter ignorance of basic math and facts. He thinks there are 58 or 60 states in the U.S., he's not sure which, he's on tape saying it and many similarly stupid statements.

So, he doesn't care what he says, he either thinks you are incredibly stupid and will tell you anything or he doesn't know what he's saying is absurd. No State Run media types hold him accountable for his ridiculous lies. This has reached previously unfathomed depths of depravity now. A media and administration completely against the people of the United States and yet you have fools still defending Obama.

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Anyone we saw this on ABC news last night saw Obama bring up this poor women and then they switched to her in a HOSPIAL being TREATED for cancer. Not out on the street dying or outside her former home being kicked to the street by the sheriff. Then they cut back to the President being interviewed after the speech - the question, what would she have that she doesn't have now? The answer - insurance!

What part of SHE IS GETTING TREATMENT EVEN THOUGH SHE DOES NOT HAVE INSURANCE does he not understand. Most people who go bankrupt after medical issues arn't there because of the medical bills but because they were not able to work. I had cancer - I had health insurance - I had private supplemental disability insurance. How can that be? I drive a 10 year old car I bought used - I bought my house 13 years ago in a foreclosure sale well below market price. My wife just got a "new car" - yet, it was a used car. We live below our means and save for our retirement. Our great "luxuries" are internet and sending our kids to private school.

But if we didn't - I could still have gotten treatment!
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Well, truth doesn't matter to Obama or his band of usurpers. I just heard an audio clip of Obama saying to a crowd of dupes (about his Obamacare), that each employer would save 3,000 percent in premium costs. And he said that the employers could afford to give you a raise with that money.

Rush Limbaugh played the clip and used as an example of $4,000 in costs to the employer per employee. If Obama was telling the truth, then each employer would save $120,000 per employee on health care premiums giving many of them millions in profit from Obama's health care plan. Only one problem, it isn't true. To me, this is proof that Obama's education was bestowed on him by some group of like-minded usurpers. He has demonstrated time and time again his utter ignorance of basic math and facts. He thinks there are 58 or 60 states in the U.S., he's not sure which, he's on tape saying it and many similarly stupid statements.

So, he doesn't care what he says, he either thinks you are incredibly stupid and will tell you anything or he doesn't know what he's saying is absurd. No State Run media types hold him accountable for his ridiculous lies. This has reached previously unfathomed depths of depravity now. A media and administration completely against the people of the United States and yet you have fools still defending Obama.
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This is pretty funny: an ignorant person calling others ignorant....LOL
Remember: People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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Well, truth doesn't matter to Obama or his band of usurpers. I just heard an audio clip of Obama saying to a crowd of dupes (about his Obamacare), that each employer would save 3,000 percent in premium costs. And he said that the employers could afford to give you a raise with that money.

Rush Limbaugh played the clip and used as an example of $4,000 in costs to the employer per employee. If Obama was telling the truth, then each employer would save $120,000 per employee on health care premiums giving many of them millions in profit from Obama's health care plan. Only one problem, it isn't true. To me, this is proof that Obama's education was bestowed on him by some group of like-minded usurpers. He has demonstrated time and time again his utter ignorance of basic math and facts. He thinks there are 58 or 60 states in the U.S., he's not sure which, he's on tape saying it and many similarly stupid statements.

So, he doesn't care what he says, he either thinks you are incredibly stupid and will tell you anything or he doesn't know what he's saying is absurd. No State Run media types hold him accountable for his ridiculous lies. This has reached previously unfathomed depths of depravity now. A media and administration completely against the people of the United States and yet you have fools still defending Obama.




This is pretty funny: an ignorant person calling others ignorant....LOL
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Rather than just running your mouth, why don't you document my ignorance. Or, did you just need to post to pick up your Shill check from Obama?
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Anyone we saw this on ABC news last night saw Obama bring up this poor women and then they switched to her in a HOSPIAL being TREATED for cancer. Not out on the street dying or outside her former home being kicked to the street by the sheriff. Then they cut back to the President being interviewed after the speech - the question, what would she have that she doesn't have now? The answer - insurance!

What part of SHE IS GETTING TREATMENT EVEN THOUGH SHE DOES NOT HAVE INSURANCE does he not understand. Most people who go bankrupt after medical issues arn't there because of the medical bills but because they were not able to work. I had cancer - I had health insurance - I had private supplemental disability insurance. How can that be? I drive a 10 year old car I bought used - I bought my house 13 years ago in a foreclosure sale well below market price. My wife just got a "new car" - yet, it was a used car. We live below our means and save for our retirement. Our great "luxuries" are internet and sending our kids to private school.

But if we didn't - I could still have gotten treatment!
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Oh but don't you know that WE are the ignorant ones, not Obama or his Shills, it is WE who just don't understand how their "messiah" just wants to help us despite our "ignorance".
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1. Obama didn't say there were 57 states. He was referring to states and territories (Puerto Rico, Gaum, etc.)

2. Rush Limbaugh is a known liar. Nothing he says has ANY credibility.
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1. Obama didn't say there were 57 states. He was referring to states and territories (Puerto Rico, Gaum, etc.)

2. Rush Limbaugh is a known liar. Nothing he says has ANY credibility.
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He said he'd been in 57 States in the UNITED STATES on the campaign. Then Alaska and Hawaii would make 59. Here's the proof you liar.




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1. Obama didn't say there were 57 states. He was referring to states and territories (Puerto Rico, Gaum, etc.)

2. Rush Limbaugh is a known liar. Nothing he says has ANY credibility.
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Rush Limbaugh didn't SAY Obama said this. He played a tape of Obama saying this!

The liar is OBAMA.

And yes, the shills are out in force because they also smell more goods and services at the expense of the taxpayers.

Who knows what Obama does with that slush fund he demanded two weeks into office or the economy would never recover. Remember that whopper? The HUGE stimulus not the smaller TARP that Obama said would keep unemployment below 8%.

And Eric Holder has admitted that there are people operating out of his justice department whose function it is to "correct" information on the internet.

Yes, we are paying for these shills.
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Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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1. Obama didn't say there were 57 states. He was referring to states and territories (Puerto Rico, Gaum, etc.)

2. Rush Limbaugh is a known liar. Nothing he says has ANY credibility.


He said he'd been in 57 States in the UNITED STATES on the campaign. Then Alaska and Hawaii would make 59. Here's the proof you liar.



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Only an idiot would believe that he meant 57 states. He was clearly referring to states and territories. Obama may not be perfect, but he's far from ignorant.
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1. Obama didn't say there were 57 states. He was referring to states and territories (Puerto Rico, Gaum, etc.)

2. Rush Limbaugh is a known liar. Nothing he says has ANY credibility.



Rush Limbaugh didn't SAY Obama said this. He played a tape of Obama saying this!

The liar is OBAMA.

And yes, the shills are out in force because they also smell more goods and services at the expense of the taxpayers.

Who knows what Obama does with that slush fund he demanded two weeks into office or the economy would never recover. Remember that whopper? The HUGE stimulus not the smaller TARP that Obama said would keep unemployment below 8%.

And Eric Holder has admitted that there are people operating out of his justice department whose function it is to "correct" information on the internet.

Yes, we are paying for these shills.
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Well, if I'm getting paid, I'd like to know where my check it. SHOW ME HE MONEY!
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I saw the OP article first thing this morning but must admit I was not surprised. I think all these examples these liberals use would pan out to be non-existent if checked or worse yet, wouldn't even be effected by their Deathcare.

For example, there is no dental without paying even more in premuims in this bill.

Yet we had that hysterical congresswoman telling the story of the woman who had to use her dead sister's dentures anyway!

Just pretend this bill will fix any given problem is their policy.

That's called LYING.

There is nothing in this bill that would have prevented the woman doing that with the dentures.

Yet they will lie right in our faces about it.

Remember the cut back on mammograms that was going to be the new "government guidelines" and eliminate them for women in their forties when the disease is most deadly?

If you don't think this bill will kill people, just think long and hard about that little turd they tried to sell to us. Once they have control, these "guidelines" will no longer be optional and they will ram those down our throats the same way they are doing with this bill.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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1. Obama didn't say there were 57 states. He was referring to states and territories (Puerto Rico, Gaum, etc.)

2. Rush Limbaugh is a known liar. Nothing he says has ANY credibility.



Rush Limbaugh didn't SAY Obama said this. He played a tape of Obama saying this!

The liar is OBAMA.

And yes, the shills are out in force because they also smell more goods and services at the expense of the taxpayers.

Who knows what Obama does with that slush fund he demanded two weeks into office or the economy would never recover. Remember that whopper? The HUGE stimulus not the smaller TARP that Obama said would keep unemployment below 8%.

And Eric Holder has admitted that there are people operating out of his justice department whose function it is to "correct" information on the internet.

Yes, we are paying for these shills.



Well, if I'm getting paid, I'd like to know where my check it. SHOW ME HE MONEY!
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It's not my job to show you shit!

Check with Eric Holder, Attorney General. He's the one who said he had people working out of his offices to "correct" information on the internet. I didn't say it. Your attorney general said it. And it was posted on this forum more than once.

So that's between you and Eric if you didn't get your check. Not my problem.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Any time Obama is not on the teleprompter, he is far from articulate. He even took the prompter to speak to fifth graders.

No, he is not even particularly intelligent without his props. I doubt he even grasps what he says because he is just reading. That's why he says so many different things at different times.

And yes, he said there were 57 states and we all heard him.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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Any time Obama is not on the teleprompter, he is far from articulate. He even took the prompter to speak to fifth graders.

No, he is not even particularly intelligent without his props. I doubt he even grasps what he says because he is just reading. That's why he says so many different things at different times.

And yes, he said there were 57 states and we all heard him.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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what bsflag
I have cancer and true the treatments are amazingly expensive
thank goodness for disability, charitycare and medicaid I only have to worry about staying alive
not the bills.
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OMG!

Robert Gibbs just cited this poor woman losing her house in the Press Conference today.

AGAIN! It's all over the news that this was bogus and yet they are still using it. I guess they are counting on people not knowing it is a fake story.

But he just now said this poor woman lost her house again!

They are STILL using this lie!
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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what bsflag
I have cancer and true the treatments are amazingly expensive
thank goodness for disability, charitycare and medicaid I only have to worry about staying alive
not the bills.
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it does take some time and effort to apply but help is already There
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Only an idiot would believe that he meant 57 states. He was clearly referring to states and territories. Obama may not be perfect, but he's far from ignorant.
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He may not be ignorant but he a pathological lier which also makes him a sociopath and when you take into account the illegal wars that are killing thousands of innocent people that bumps him up into psychopath territory. Right there with Adolf Hitler, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, Mao Zedong, Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacey.
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what bsflag
I have cancer and true the treatments are amazingly expensive
thank goodness for disability, charitycare and medicaid I only have to worry about staying alive
not the bills.
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I have a young niece, 30 yo, diagnosed with melanoma who has had to have treatments over an extended period of time because of multiple locations, etc. Massive bills, etc. but between her TennCare and Cancer Society, she has paid almost nothing and even was driven to and from treatments at one time.

I was surprised to learn that the American Cancer Society will actually do things to help if you let them know you need help. I suggest all facing this kind of devastation do so.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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1. Obama didn't say there were 57 states. He was referring to states and territories (Puerto Rico, Gaum, etc.)

2. Rush Limbaugh is a known liar. Nothing he says has ANY credibility.


He said he'd been in 57 States in the UNITED STATES on the campaign. Then Alaska and Hawaii would make 59. Here's the proof you liar.



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this bitch was for sure made in a test tube.
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Only an idiot would believe that he meant 57 states. He was clearly referring to states and territories. Obama may not be perfect, but he's far from ignorant.


He may not be ignorant but he a pathological lier which also makes him a sociopath and when you take into account the illegal wars that are killing thousands of innocent people that bumps him up into psychopath territory. Right there with Adolf Hitler, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, Mao Zedong, Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacey.
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You mean the wars that were started by the Bush crime family?

Get a clue!





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