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bobnightman (OP) User ID: 914704 United States 03/16/2010 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I thought that you supported the Canadian healthcare system? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 660781I support all 36 that are better than ours Where does it say they are better than ours? It only shows the $$$ spent are higher, nothing related to quality or quantity of Medical Care available. Rank Country 1 France 2 Italy 3 San Marino 4 Andorra 5 Malta 6 Singapore 7 Spain 8 Oman 9 Austria 10 Japan 11 Norway 12 Portugal 13 Monaco 14 Greece 15 Iceland 16 Luxembourg 17 Netherlands 18 United Kingdom 19 Ireland 20 Switzerland 21 Belgium 22 Colombia 23 Sweden 24 Cyprus 25 Germany 26 Saudi Arabia 27 United Arab Emirates 28 Israel 29 Morocco 30 Canada 31 Finland 32 Australia 33 Chile 34 Denmark 35 Dominica 36 Costa Rica 37 United States of America 38 Slovenia 39 Cuba 40 Brunei 41 New Zealand 42 This is not a rank of money...It is overall quality Last Edited by bobnightman on 03/16/2010 01:11 PM 12/21/12 |
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Sinanju2 User ID: 917402 United States 03/16/2010 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally, I am glad Bobbie put this failranking up... now he and all his failtard friends know where to move after Obammycare gets shot down and the socialists voted out of office in November. Good jobby, Bobby. I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot “But make no mistake, BP is operating at our direction...” -Barry Obammy |
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Brwnstown User ID: 897397 United States 03/16/2010 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Healthcare rankings...We kinda suck Quoting: bobnightmanNo it shows we pay a shit load of money to take care of illegal immigrants, and medicade/care, and ppl who choose not to have insurance. Not to mention paying out the ass for countless tests so docs can cover their ass in case of law suits. But let this crap pass and we will still be paying the same if not more, the same illegal immigrants will continue to get free care the liberals admit millions more still wont be covered, and doctors will still have to order every test imaginable to cover their ass, except for when the bureaucrats tell them not to they wont cover it. Oh and the same 100's of thousands that the libs say are dropping dead now will continue to drop dead for the next 4 yrs with no coverage. And the average guy who like his coverage will pay for his, and pay a tax to cover welfare, and pay for the illegal too, nothing like paying 3 times. |
bobnightman (OP) User ID: 914704 United States 03/16/2010 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the ranking of health care systems according to the World Health Organization (2000).[1] Ranking Country Expenditure Per Capita 1 France 4 2 Italy 11 3 San Marino 21 4 Andorra 23 5 Malta 37 6 Singapore 38 7 Spain 24 8 Oman 62 9 Austria 6 10 Japan 13 11 Norway 16 12 Portugal 28 13 Monaco 12 14 Greece 30 15 Iceland 14 16 Luxembourg 5 17 Netherlands 9 18 United Kingdom 26 19 Ireland 25 20 Switzerland 2 21 Belgium 15 22 Colombia 49 23 Sweden 7 24 Cyprus 39 25 Germany 3 26 Saudi Arabia 63 27 United Arab Emirates 35 28 Israel 19 29 Morocco 99 30 Canada 10 31 Finland 18 32 Australia 17 33 Chile 44 34 Denmark 8 35 Dominica 70 36 Costa Rica 50 37 United States 1 38 Slovenia 29 39 Cuba 118 40 Brunei 32 41 New Zealand 20 42 Bahrain 48 43 Croatia 56 44 Qatar 27 45 Kuwait The number on the left is rank...Number on right is expenditure so both are listed 12/21/12 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 894470 United States 03/16/2010 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is just anti-US propaganda. The WHO is a globalist organization. There is no way that the US would ever be ranked near the top because we don't have socialized medicine. The Canadian Premier recently came to the US to have heart surgery. Why would he do that? His country is ranked higher than ours. And look at this, from the UK: [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] The only place we have seen anything like this in the US was at Walter Reed, which is run by the government. This is why people don't want government run health care. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 730536 United States 03/16/2010 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are the main ones pushing H1N1 vaccines to profit Big Pharma over a totally FAKE epidemic. So natutrally Bobby supports them on this bogus socialized assessment of health care as well. OP, you DID get your vaccine as instructed by WHO who also claim the right to seize control during health emergencies, right? And the seasonal flu shot and the pneumonia shot, all as instructed by this organization you are promoting? Because to do otherwise would be totally hypocritic, wouldn't it? WHO is bought and owned by Big Pharma who also supports this universal healthcare crap so they can get 30 million new patients and they already got $80 billion to sponsor ads in this country. They are looking forward to total coverage for all those illegals! Just like Bobby. So tell me again why Canadian Officials come to the USA for their surgery so often? Because we are worse than Chile? I don't think so and neither does anybody else with a brain. Maybe you should lay off the cheap booze. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 909665 United States 03/16/2010 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The World Health Report says the main failings of many health systems are: - Many health ministries focus on the public sector and often disregard the frequently much larger private sector health care. - In many countries, some if not most physicians work simultaneously for the public sector and in private practice. This means the public sector ends up subsidizing unofficial private practice. - Many governments fail to prevent a "black market" in health, where widespread corruption, bribery, "moonlighting" and other illegal practices flourish. The black markets, which themselves are caused by malfunctioning health systems, and low income of health workers, further undermine those systems. - Many health ministries fail to enforce regulations that they themselves have created or are supposed to implement in the public interest. " |
bobnightman (OP) User ID: 914704 United States 03/16/2010 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is just anti-US propaganda. The WHO is a globalist organization. There is no way that the US would ever be ranked near the top because we don't have socialized medicine. The Canadian Premier recently came to the US to have heart surgery. Why would he do that? His country is ranked higher than ours. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 894470And look at this, from the UK: [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] The only place we have seen anything like this in the US was at Walter Reed, which is run by the government. This is why people don't want government run health care. My dad has Vet care he loves it...It is better than my Aetna 12/21/12 |
bobnightman (OP) User ID: 914704 United States 03/16/2010 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So OP supports the World Health Organization and their socialist agenda and believes their every word. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 730536They are the main ones pushing H1N1 vaccines to profit Big Pharma over a totally FAKE epidemic. So natutrally Bobby supports them on this bogus socialized assessment of health care as well. OP, you DID get your vaccine as instructed by WHO who also claim the right to seize control during health emergencies, right? And the seasonal flu shot and the pneumonia shot, all as instructed by this organization you are promoting? Because to do otherwise would be totally hypocritic, wouldn't it? WHO is bought and owned by Big Pharma who also supports this universal healthcare crap so they can get 30 million new patients and they already got $80 billion to sponsor ads in this country. They are looking forward to total coverage for all those illegals! Just like Bobby. So tell me again why Canadian Officials come to the USA for their surgery so often? Because we are worse than Chile? I don't think so and neither does anybody else with a brain. Maybe you should lay off the cheap booze. I got no vaccines and wont 12/21/12 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 493309 United States 03/16/2010 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ranking Country Expenditure Per Capita Quoting: bobnightman1 France 4 2 Italy 11 3 San Marino 21 4 Andorra 23 5 Malta 37 6 Singapore 38 7 Spain 24 8 Oman 62 9 Austria 6 10 Japan 13 11 Norway 16 12 Portugal 28 13 Monaco 12 14 Greece 30 15 Iceland 14 16 Luxembourg 5 17 Netherlands 9 18 United Kingdom 26 19 Ireland 25 20 Switzerland 2 21 Belgium 15 22 Colombia 49 23 Sweden 7 24 Cyprus 39 25 Germany 3 26 Saudi Arabia 63 27 United Arab Emirates 35 28 Israel 19 29 Morocco 99 30 Canada 10 31 Finland 18 32 Australia 17 33 Chile 44 34 Denmark 8 35 Dominica 70 36 Costa Rica 50 37 United States 1 38 Slovenia 29 39 Cuba 118 40 Brunei 32 Expenditure Per Capita is money spent not quality of care dambass keep drinking your beer and go back to sleep |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 730536 United States 03/16/2010 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We pay the most of any country to get a rank of #37 Quoting: bobnightmanYeah, we should have used some of that money to bribe the socialist organization WHO doing the ranking. Go to the National Hospital. Then go to the top floor where all the suits are for the foreign dignitaries who come to this country for treatment. Little suites reserved mostly for them. Why would those Saudi princes come here for their heart and other care? Hint for the dense: It's not because we are 37th in anything. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 688990 United Kingdom 03/16/2010 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guess which country used to have one of the best health care systems in the world and would have been near the top of that list if it had'nt been for the west. [link to vcnv.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 730536 United States 03/16/2010 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So OP supports the World Health Organization and their socialist agenda and believes their every word. Quoting: bobnightmanThey are the main ones pushing H1N1 vaccines to profit Big Pharma over a totally FAKE epidemic. So natutrally Bobby supports them on this bogus socialized assessment of health care as well. OP, you DID get your vaccine as instructed by WHO who also claim the right to seize control during health emergencies, right? And the seasonal flu shot and the pneumonia shot, all as instructed by this organization you are promoting? Because to do otherwise would be totally hypocritic, wouldn't it? WHO is bought and owned by Big Pharma who also supports this universal healthcare crap so they can get 30 million new patients and they already got $80 billion to sponsor ads in this country. They are looking forward to total coverage for all those illegals! Just like Bobby. So tell me again why Canadian Officials come to the USA for their surgery so often? Because we are worse than Chile? I don't think so and neither does anybody else with a brain. Maybe you should lay off the cheap booze. I got no vaccines and wont But you are claiming that the word of WHO is the gospel on this ranking. And that same organization told you flatly to get that vaccine. You can't have it both ways. Either WHO is truthful or they are not. And they told you to get that vaccine! It's not too late. And you can bet if Obama Deathcare passes, you will get it! You will no longer have any say about things like that. You will get it or lose your insurance and if you don't have insurance, you know what will happen then. But meanwhile, you must obey WHO if you are going to demand that others believe their socialist ranking system. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 730536 United States 03/16/2010 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guess which country used to have one of the best health care systems in the world and would have been near the top of that list if it had'nt been for the west. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688990[link to vcnv.org] Ever see one of those videos of them removing an eyeball or chopping off a hand as a part of their judicial system sentencing? I guess the west made them do that? No, was their fearless leader. Creative use of doctors, I guess you could say. And the Kurds might disagree with you, but whatever. WHO is in the pocket of Big Pharma and everybody knows that. Thence their recent demand that the WHOLE WORLD be vaccinated for a non-existent flu epidemic. I don't have any respect at all for them or their ranking system because I simply know better. So do most people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 526297 United States 03/16/2010 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ranking Country Expenditure Per Capita Quoting: bobnightman1 France 4 2 Italy 11 3 San Marino 21 4 Andorra 23 5 Malta 37 6 Singapore 38 7 Spain 24 8 Oman 62 9 Austria 6 10 Japan 13 11 Norway 16 12 Portugal 28 13 Monaco 12 14 Greece 30 15 Iceland 14 16 Luxembourg 5 17 Netherlands 9 18 United Kingdom 26 19 Ireland 25 20 Switzerland 2 21 Belgium 15 22 Colombia 49 23 Sweden 7 24 Cyprus 39 25 Germany 3 26 Saudi Arabia 63 27 United Arab Emirates 35 28 Israel 19 29 Morocco 99 30 Canada 10 31 Finland 18 32 Australia 17 33 Chile 44 34 Denmark 8 35 Dominica 70 36 Costa Rica 50 37 United States 1 38 Slovenia 29 39 Cuba 118 40 Brunei 32 Last I looked this is 2010, this report was produced in 2000 based off of 1998 data ... HMMM |
Sinanju2 User ID: 917402 United States 03/16/2010 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is just anti-US propaganda. The WHO is a globalist organization. There is no way that the US would ever be ranked near the top because we don't have socialized medicine. The Canadian Premier recently came to the US to have heart surgery. Why would he do that? His country is ranked higher than ours. Quoting: bobnightmanAnd look at this, from the UK: [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] The only place we have seen anything like this in the US was at Walter Reed, which is run by the government. This is why people don't want government run health care. My dad has Vet care he loves it...It is better than my Aetna >>Gee willikers... the socialist father of a full fledged communist likes socialized medicine... whowoulddathunkit???? I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot “But make no mistake, BP is operating at our direction...” -Barry Obammy |
bobnightman (OP) User ID: 914704 United States 03/16/2010 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ranking Country Expenditure Per Capita Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5262971 France 4 2 Italy 11 3 San Marino 21 4 Andorra 23 5 Malta 37 6 Singapore 38 7 Spain 24 8 Oman 62 9 Austria 6 10 Japan 13 11 Norway 16 12 Portugal 28 13 Monaco 12 14 Greece 30 15 Iceland 14 16 Luxembourg 5 17 Netherlands 9 18 United Kingdom 26 19 Ireland 25 20 Switzerland 2 21 Belgium 15 22 Colombia 49 23 Sweden 7 24 Cyprus 39 25 Germany 3 26 Saudi Arabia 63 27 United Arab Emirates 35 28 Israel 19 29 Morocco 99 30 Canada 10 31 Finland 18 32 Australia 17 33 Chile 44 34 Denmark 8 35 Dominica 70 36 Costa Rica 50 37 United States 1 38 Slovenia 29 39 Cuba 118 40 Brunei 32 Last I looked this is 2010, this report was produced in 2000 based off of 1998 data ... HMMM Yeah I 'm sure we might have moved up to 36 by now 12/21/12 |
Sinanju2 User ID: 917402 United States 03/16/2010 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ranking Country Expenditure Per Capita Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5262971 France 4 2 Italy 11 3 San Marino 21 4 Andorra 23 5 Malta 37 6 Singapore 38 7 Spain 24 8 Oman 62 9 Austria 6 10 Japan 13 11 Norway 16 12 Portugal 28 13 Monaco 12 14 Greece 30 15 Iceland 14 16 Luxembourg 5 17 Netherlands 9 18 United Kingdom 26 19 Ireland 25 20 Switzerland 2 21 Belgium 15 22 Colombia 49 23 Sweden 7 24 Cyprus 39 25 Germany 3 26 Saudi Arabia 63 27 United Arab Emirates 35 28 Israel 19 29 Morocco 99 30 Canada 10 31 Finland 18 32 Australia 17 33 Chile 44 34 Denmark 8 35 Dominica 70 36 Costa Rica 50 37 United States 1 38 Slovenia 29 39 Cuba 118 40 Brunei 32 Last I looked this is 2010, this report was produced in 2000 based off of 1998 data ... HMMM >>Any port in a storm, comrade. I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot “But make no mistake, BP is operating at our direction...” -Barry Obammy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 901185 United States 03/16/2010 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Healthcare rankings...We kinda suck Quoting: bobnightmanNo, you suck because you are looking at expenditures, not actual quality of care, so go fuck yourself, Bob, you communist rat. No you are wrong No, I am not wrong. Like most progressive rat fucktards, you are twisting facts and statistics to "prove" something that doesnt exist. You are seriously insane. |
Sinanju2 User ID: 917402 United States 03/16/2010 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Healthcare rankings...We kinda suck Quoting: Anonymous Coward 901185No, you suck because you are looking at expenditures, not actual quality of care, so go fuck yourself, Bob, you communist rat. No you are wrong No, I am not wrong. Like most progressive rat fucktards, you are twisting facts and statistics to "prove" something that doesnt exist. You are seriously insane. >>And most of those 'statistics' were created SPECIFICALLY to answer whatever question is at hand at the moment. Any port in a storm, comrade. I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot “But make no mistake, BP is operating at our direction...” -Barry Obammy |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 864273 United States 03/16/2010 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another index used to measure the health of a population is the infant mortality rates. Here, the USA is just about as bad. Wake up, people! Your opposition to the public option and health care reform in general was engineered and underwritten by the insurance companies and big pharma. Corporate profit interests should have no place in health care, and they are still running the show on Capitol Hill. We are in this crisis because of deregulation. We let the corporations determine our health care.... and they want us sick, as health means less profit. For all of the affluence in this country, access to good quality healthcare pretty much sucks, unless you have insurance and $$$ -- only THEN do you receive quality care. Our infant mortality and <5 yo mortality rates are EMBARASSING. The infant mortality rate (IMR) is the number of deaths of infants under one year old per 1,000 live births. This rate is often used as an indicator of the level of health in a country. The infant mortality rate of the world is 49.4 according to the United Nations and 42.09 according to the CIA World Factbook. The under-five mortality rate of the world is 73.7 according to the United Nations. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Ranking here is best = 1. Second column = Country or territory Third column = Infant mortality rate (deaths/1,000 live births) Fourth column = Under-five mortality rate (deaths/1,000 live births) Rank Country Infant mortality rate 1 Iceland 2.9 3.9 2 Singapore 3.0 4.1 3 Japan 3.2 4.2 4 Sweden 3.2 4.0 5 Norway 3.3 4.4 6 Hong Kong 3.7 4.7 7 Finland 3.7 4.7 8 Czech Republic 3.8 4.8 9 Switzerland 4.1 5.1 10 South Korea 4.1 4.8 11 Belgium 4.2 5.3 12 France 4.2 5.2 13 Spain 4.2 5.3 14 Germany 4.3 5.4 15 Denmark 4.4 5.8 16 Austria 4.4 5.4 17 Australia 4.4 5.6 18 Luxembourg 4.5 6.6 19 Netherlands 4.7 5.9 20 Israel 4.7 5.7 21 Slovenia 4.8 6.4 22 United Kingdom 4.8 6.0 23 Canada 4.8 5.9 24 Ireland 4.9 6.2 25 Italy 5.0 6.1 26 Portugal 5.0 6.6 27 New Zealand 5.0 6.4 28 Cuba 5.1 6.5 29 Channel Islands 5.2 6.2 30 Brunei 5.5 6.7 31 Cyprus 5.9 6.9 32 New Caledonia 6.1 8.7 33 United States 6.3 7.8 34 Croatia 6.4 7.7 |
bobnightman (OP) User ID: 914704 United States 03/16/2010 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another index used to measure the health of a population is the infant mortality rates. Here, the USA is just about as bad. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 864273Wake up, people! Your opposition to the public option and health care reform in general was engineered and underwritten by the insurance companies and big pharma. Corporate profit interests should have no place in health care, and they are still running the show on Capitol Hill. We are in this crisis because of deregulation. We let the corporations determine our health care.... and they want us sick, as health means less profit. For all of the affluence in this country, access to good quality healthcare pretty much sucks, unless you have insurance and $$$ -- only THEN do you receive quality care. Our infant mortality and <5 yo mortality rates are EMBARASSING. The infant mortality rate (IMR) is the number of deaths of infants under one year old per 1,000 live births. This rate is often used as an indicator of the level of health in a country. The infant mortality rate of the world is 49.4 according to the United Nations and 42.09 according to the CIA World Factbook. The under-five mortality rate of the world is 73.7 according to the United Nations. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Ranking here is best = 1. Second column = Country or territory Third column = Infant mortality rate (deaths/1,000 live births) Fourth column = Under-five mortality rate (deaths/1,000 live births) Rank Country Infant mortality rate 1 Iceland 2.9 3.9 2 Singapore 3.0 4.1 3 Japan 3.2 4.2 4 Sweden 3.2 4.0 5 Norway 3.3 4.4 6 Hong Kong 3.7 4.7 7 Finland 3.7 4.7 8 Czech Republic 3.8 4.8 9 Switzerland 4.1 5.1 10 South Korea 4.1 4.8 11 Belgium 4.2 5.3 12 France 4.2 5.2 13 Spain 4.2 5.3 14 Germany 4.3 5.4 15 Denmark 4.4 5.8 16 Austria 4.4 5.4 17 Australia 4.4 5.6 18 Luxembourg 4.5 6.6 19 Netherlands 4.7 5.9 20 Israel 4.7 5.7 21 Slovenia 4.8 6.4 22 United Kingdom 4.8 6.0 23 Canada 4.8 5.9 24 Ireland 4.9 6.2 25 Italy 5.0 6.1 26 Portugal 5.0 6.6 27 New Zealand 5.0 6.4 28 Cuba 5.1 6.5 29 Channel Islands 5.2 6.2 30 Brunei 5.5 6.7 31 Cyprus 5.9 6.9 32 New Caledonia 6.1 8.7 33 United States 6.3 7.8 34 Croatia 6.4 7.7 Can we see 35 + 12/21/12 |
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