Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* | |
ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 03/19/2010 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* I never said other religions are worse Quoting: DNAprototypeI did. Prove I'm wrong. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
DNAprototype User ID: 907188 United States 03/19/2010 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* That jesus camp nutjob said this. "I want to see them radically laying down their lives for the gospel, as they are over in Pakistan, Israel, and Palestine and all those other places." She would gladly arm some children with weapons if she could do so without being in trouble with the law. |
ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 03/19/2010 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* Im coming there and taking you out for a steak Scrump. Quoting: Turtles Know:americadea: Can I come along?? Please? Sure! (He's paying) I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Gradient Get over yourself User ID: 891684 United States 03/19/2010 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* Give me pics of Christian kids doing things like THAT... like I said in the Op. Quoting: DNAprototypeA whole big 'ol Internet out there & that's the best you do... You're officially Fail #1 of the thread, congratulations. ;) You fail at life in general. If weapons and lawlessness were more widespread in this country, they would be doing that. Fact is, religions are harming everyone on the planet. This is child abuse and brainwashing. I never said other religions are worse, my point is that they aren't innocent of harming children. Your over generalization of a populace that you don't know just shows the naivety that you judge everything by. glptrainer(at)yahoo.com |
Gradient Get over yourself User ID: 891684 United States 03/19/2010 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* That jesus camp nutjob said this. Quoting: DNAprototype"I want to see them radically laying down their lives for the gospel, as they are over in Pakistan, Israel, and Palestine and all those other places." She would gladly arm some children with weapons if she could do so without being in trouble with the law. Ok there's one! Keep going, only millions more to go! glptrainer(at)yahoo.com |
DNAprototype User ID: 907188 United States 03/19/2010 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* I never said other religions are worse Quoting: ScrumpTheTexanI did. Prove I'm wrong. Your argument is the equivalent of saying heroin is worse than crack. Who gives a fuck, they will both harm you and kill you. DNA |
ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 03/19/2010 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* That jesus camp nutjob said this. Quoting: DNAprototype"I want to see them radically laying down their lives for the gospel, as they are over in Pakistan, Israel, and Palestine and all those other places." She would gladly arm some children with weapons if she could do so without being in trouble with the law. Your biased suppositions mean nothing. Pics & vids, just like I did, or GTFO. You can be Fail #3... give it a shot :) I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Tulkor User ID: 916570 United States 03/19/2010 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* The problem is you people take what people like me say and twist it around. We say something like "It is the natural reaction of the oppressed to fight off the oppressors in any means they deem necessary...to include massacring civilians." You take that statement to mean that we support Islamic radicals because they are oppressed and thus we have sympathy for them. You may even think that we simply think that the US is the bad guy and Islam is actually the good guy. Not true. As oppressive and disgusting the U.S. is...I sure as hell do not want this country to be run by the tyranny of Islam. All organized religions are a lie...duh. And all religions are quite violent. Christian nations have done their fair share of massacres, so have the Muslims. The whole world is simply a bloody fricken mess. People here are arguing too much in the details. Broaden it out a bit. I know what human beings are capable of doing to each other once the constraints of society are lifted (such as a warzone where one will simply call an execution of an entire family collateral damage). But frankly you must put your anger aside. Trust me it is HARD...i still have problems with trying to think without anger. You must realize that not all insurgents are fighting for the same reason. Some are simply radical dipshits while others choose to fight with them because U.S. troops entered their home on a night raid and shot unarmed and innocent people. What would you do if a soldier shot your wife who was pregnant with child dead? You would want to kill anyone wearing that fucking uniform! Now my sympathy is only that in words and in my mind. When I'm there with my rifle...and ANYONE seeks to harm me (Even if it be for a legitimate reason) I will do my best to kill them and stay alive. That is the sucky thing about war. The people you are fighting are just people...nothing more and nothing less than you...but on another side. Sure we try to dehumanize them by saying racial stuff like "They are just Arabs...fricken savages." but really they are not animals. They are humans...just like you. Everything is just fucked up... |
DNAprototype User ID: 907188 United States 03/19/2010 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* That jesus camp nutjob said this. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan"I want to see them radically laying down their lives for the gospel, as they are over in Pakistan, Israel, and Palestine and all those other places." She would gladly arm some children with weapons if she could do so without being in trouble with the law. Your biased suppositions mean nothing. Pics & vids, just like I did, or GTFO. You can be Fail #3... give it a shot :) She says that in the second vid I posted. |
ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 03/19/2010 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* I never said other religions are worse Quoting: DNAprototypeI did. Prove I'm wrong. Your argument is the equivalent of saying heroin is worse than crack. Who gives a fuck, they will both harm you and kill you. DNA :tyuir: Go get me a pic or vid along the lines I've already outlined for your denseness. Otherwise you no-longer have a dog in this fight (gotcha a fail already, remember?) and are insignificant to the thread. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
DNAprototype User ID: 907188 United States 03/19/2010 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* Go get me a pic or vid along the lines I've already outlined for your denseness. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexanOtherwise you no-longer have a dog in this fight (gotcha a fail already, remember?) and are insignificant to the thread. You saying that I am fail is music to my ears. |
ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 03/19/2010 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* Go get me a pic or vid along the lines I've already outlined for your denseness. Quoting: DNAprototypeOtherwise you no-longer have a dog in this fight (gotcha a fail already, remember?) and are insignificant to the thread. You saying that I am fail is music to my ears. Glad I could help. Thanks for playing. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 875736 United States 03/19/2010 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* I have no-idea what makes someone go from a decent devout person to a killer...en masse. But there's something within this one religion, and this one only, that does that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 911764Ummm...have you ever looked at the horrible things the Christian religion perpetrated on this planet? Or, is it now suddenly a civil thing? I'm a US citizen, posting from a Muslim nation...the people here are warm and helpful and friendly and most of them live on practically nothing. But to paint a broad stroke such as you are...people need to consider history and spend a little time looking the mirror. For instance, faith based initiatives...wars...etc...when have we ever heard of these before? Did innocent people die? He's not painting a broad stroke. He's posting the truth about millions of Muslims. Millions more live in truce, and truce only, but they are not the ones trying to establish the caliphate in the west with 'jihad' There are only two states of being for Muslims who do not want to be killed by his/her own for 'honor', those who live in 'truce' and those who live in 'jihad' There is no level of manners that will stop 'jihad' if a Muslim breaks 'truce' from violence. They are born into this, learn this, act this out, believe this and honor this, all their lives. Truce is only to gather strength. Read their books. This is where I got this information. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 875736 United States 03/19/2010 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* The problem is you people take what people like me say and twist it around. Quoting: TulkorWe say something like "It is the natural reaction of the oppressed to fight off the oppressors in any means they deem necessary...to include massacring civilians." You take that statement to mean that we support Islamic radicals because they are oppressed and thus we have sympathy for them. You may even think that we simply think that the US is the bad guy and Islam is actually the good guy. Not true. As oppressive and disgusting the U.S. is...I sure as hell do not want this country to be run by the tyranny of Islam. All organized religions are a lie...duh. And all religions are quite violent. Christian nations have done their fair share of massacres, so have the Muslims. The whole world is simply a bloody fricken mess. People here are arguing too much in the details. Broaden it out a bit. I know what human beings are capable of doing to each other once the constraints of society are lifted (such as a warzone where one will simply call an execution of an entire family collateral damage). But frankly you must put your anger aside. Trust me it is HARD...i still have problems with trying to think without anger. You must realize that not all insurgents are fighting for the same reason. Some are simply radical dipshits while others choose to fight with them because U.S. troops entered their home on a night raid and shot unarmed and innocent people. What would you do if a soldier shot your wife who was pregnant with child dead? You would want to kill anyone wearing that fucking uniform! Now my sympathy is only that in words and in my mind. When I'm there with my rifle...and ANYONE seeks to harm me (Even if it be for a legitimate reason) I will do my best to kill them and stay alive. That is the sucky thing about war. The people you are fighting are just people...nothing more and nothing less than you...but on another side. Sure we try to dehumanize them by saying racial stuff like "They are just Arabs...fricken savages." but really they are not animals. They are humans...just like you. Everything is just fucked up... You must realize that there is only one goal of Muslims, and that is to eradicate with violence, all non Muslims. There is nothing to be angry about. All other people will let them be if they let others be. They won't. So eradication of Islam is the only answer for non-Muslims. |
Tulkor User ID: 916570 United States 03/19/2010 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* Anyone is capable of it. Back in the 50s with the Brown v. Board of Education ruling...it was White people gunning for black people. Soccer moms would have killed 16 year old kids at Little Rock if they didn't escape those first few attempts before the 101st airborne came. If they did they would have thought nothing of it...probably would have warmed their soul and they would have high fived their buddies saying, "Look, I bagged me a bye bye." but some of those people who were so capable of killing blacks then changed over the years and realized they were wrong. Normal people...good people...but very capable of brutally murdering people due to messed up fundamental beliefs in their brains. The worst is when you see good people go to war and be capable of such disgusting acts. My dad found photos of my grandpa in WW2 playing the corpses of villagers they killed. Grandpa sees them looking at it and takes them all away...never to be seen again. A loving husband and father...joins the Army to fight for his family and his country...ends up capable of executing a young insurgent who surrenders to the Unit (during a point of the day where they werent actively in a fire fight). And he thinks nothing of it. That was just personal experiences but i've read about far worse. Entire families being gunned down by our so called elite "Special Forces"...I guess it takes a really highly trained and skilled warrior to knock down a door in the middle of the night and shoot unarmed, innocent families just because they were having a party that night to celebrate a birth. and it all goes under the rug...even if exposed to the public. Simply casualties of war...collateral damage...blah blah blah. |
ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 03/19/2010 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* Last Edited by ScrumpTheTexan on 03/19/2010 11:24 PM I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 03/19/2010 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* He's not painting a broad stroke. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 875736He's posting the truth about millions of Muslims. Millions more live in truce, and truce only, but they are not the ones trying to establish the caliphate in the west with 'jihad' There are only two states of being for Muslims who do not want to be killed by his/her own for 'honor', those who live in 'truce' and those who live in 'jihad' There is no level of manners that will stop 'jihad' if a Muslim breaks 'truce' from violence. They are born into this, learn this, act this out, believe this and honor this, all their lives. Truce is only to gather strength. Read their books. This is where I got this information. As did I. And by listening to reformed Jihadis. I can't imagine the Muslims that I know ever even dreaming about doing anything Jihadist. These are Good People.. But, just like this guy: Vanderbilt Islamic Professor Reveals Truth About Islam & Homosexuality (It's punishable by death) When pressed you can get some pretty interesting facts about the 'true' Islamic doctrine. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 03/19/2010 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* Don't post so many words for the forehead man, he gets confused and stuff. Quoting: DNAprototypeVideos or pics, must be less than a decade old. (Rules for participating in this thread so far.) I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 03/19/2010 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* Don't post so many words for the forehead man, he gets confused and stuff. Quoting: DNAprototypeVideos or pics, must be less than a decade old. (Rules for participating in this thread so far.) Let me break it down to you :krzse: :m,ltrse4r: :mfghja: :IETw: :dtyQW: Like those. And those are nothing at all, I can show you videos of them actually instructing kids how to fire into the heads of bound prisoners... and the kids doing it from 3 ft away... I can show you videos of kids being encouraged & egged-on & instructed by adults.. in the cutting off of a living man's head, & the kids doing it... much worse online... tame for GLP. Show me any other group doing that with their kids. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Free Store User ID: 144785 Canada 03/19/2010 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* I learned I can't post a video on this thread but youtube has hundreds of videos showing what the US military is capable of and it is not handing candy out to children The US created a hornets nest over in Iraq/ Afghanistan and is not meeting their objectives. If the US invaded Canada of course I would defend my country. The US kills women and children with the predictor unmanned craft. The US is in desperate mode now but 'as I have said 5 years ago', the win for the US will not come. God sides with the underdog... Not the murderer of his people.... US Soldiers Abuse Afghan Civilians 40,110 views khangoll Quicklist3:03 American Soldiers Torture 81,584 views truthforamerica Quicklist5:40 US Soldiers torture Iraq Children... 619,803 views 3rdID8487 Quicklist4:55 American agent torturing innocent Afghan detainee 6,102 views SayNoToTorture Quicklist0:56 US soldiers torture Iraqi people 30,028 views petslover2008 Quicklist0:56 abu-ghraib torture 5,952 views warp007 Quicklist0:23 Soldiers scaring Iraqi children 527,089 views barndogghxc Quicklist2:38 What US Soldiers are teaching the Afghani Children 559,519 views AntiHypocrisy Quicklist2:46 al-Qaida Torture House 185,281 views dvidshub Quicklist10:30 TESTIMONY OF A FORMER US ARMY RANGER Part 2/2 30,774 views War0nterror Quicklist0:12 Bored Soldier In Iraq 84,957 views yaopeng2 Quicklist4:47 Soldiers Speak Out 2,963 views owmyeye1 Quicklist1:37 Pashto translator (former Taliban) Flirts with ... 21,330 views MojaddidyArab Quicklist1:02 cannibal corpse 2,073 views Quicklist6:49 Generation Kill - Iraq 7,678,973 views journeymanpictures Quicklist2:04 US Torture: The Iraqi Kids Vol. 11 2,207 views redvand Quicklist23:57 The Iraq War: Legal or Illegal? 2,240,210 views pinkyshow |
ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 03/19/2010 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* Scrump, I got in late friend. I see you finally got some good ass kicking done. You are the best in the almost west! Quoting: Ricfly52Thanks Bro I've finally had my first 2 submissions in the Big GLP Put-Up or Shut Up Challenge here..(F's). none on Pt 2, so I guess I should be glad for the participation ;) I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 03/19/2010 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* I learned I can't post a video on this thread but youtube has hundreds of videos showing what the US military is capable of and it is not handing candy out to children Quoting: Free Store 144785You do understand the simple rules of the challenge right? We've been over this, you & I, before. KIDS/PICS/VIDS. Not the Army or any other big-boys... Now run along (that took you 2 hours?)... Last Edited by ScrumpTheTexan on 03/19/2010 11:58 PM I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Aquarius 7 User ID: 920087 United States 03/19/2010 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* Im coming there and taking you out for a steak Scrump. Quoting: RememberThis:americadea: . . Can I come along?? Please? , , Count me in for a T-Bone ! . . I'll have a nice rib steak ... . . Cayce: “… The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. …. then we may know it has begun …”. www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html . "Be kind, for everyone you know is fighting a hard battle" - Plato . "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of life." ~ Hopi Prophecy . |
Free Store User ID: 144785 Canada 03/20/2010 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Scrump's News Letter 3/2010 (2) *The United States of Sharia Pt 3 - We Don't Want This! - Round Two* I learned I can't post a video on this thread but youtube has hundreds of videos showing what the US military is capable of and it is not handing candy out to children Quoting: ScrumpTheTexanYou do understand the simple rules of the challenge right? We've been over this, you & I, before. KIDS/PICS/VIDS. Not the Army or any other big-boys... Now run along (that took you 2 hours?)... Sorry but I have never spoken to you before this thread You are not the best at remembering names I can't believe the volumes of hate locked away in your heart But you know my stance now..good luck |