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Anonymous Coward User ID: 921438 United Kingdom 03/21/2010 04:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Bondar, When you look out into space, away from the earth, what do you see? Do you see points of light in every direction? Can you discern up and down? When you look down (I suppose this would be really interesting for a person performing a space walk) how does it feel to be standing on nothing? Bondar: First of all, the stars do not twinkle because we're above the atmosphere so they are basically holes of dead light and lots of them. Once one gets dark-adapted in space there are kajillions of stars. And all this light is so far away that some of the sources of the light may already have vanished because it takes of tens of thousands maybe millions of years for that light to reach us. I felt I was in a futuristic vehicle very much in the present but looking at light from the past, a canvas of the sky representing the past life of the universe. [link to www.cbc.ca] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 886200 United States 03/21/2010 04:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | stars are big exploding balls of gas, mostly hydrogen and helium. at least that is what i have read. don't know for sure. what op says is very interesting. makes sense about the stars not really being there or shuttles would be running into them wouldn't they. so what we see isn't really there. Quoting: Mister ObviousShuttles running into them?? They're suns and they're really really really really far away dude. really really really really really really really really really really really really |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 920422 Australia 03/21/2010 05:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On thurs. March 18th, Canadian astronaut Roberta Bondar was interviewed on GlobalTVEdmonton that once in space one discovers that there are no stars! The twinkling stars we see from Earth can not be seen in space, it is all just a black void. NOTHINGNESS! She states that any exploration to Mars would be very difficult for astronauts mentally. They would see absolutely nothing until reaching Mars. Kind of like having to cross a gymnasium in total darkness while knowing that there is a door at the other end. Scary thought,no? So, what is the reality of the stars we see? Also she states, and confirms, that there are structures on the moon that have been there for thousands of years awaiting discovery(acknowledgment)that will shock the world. Look up "ancient structures on the moon", these vids have existed for some time now, but no astronaut admitted to this prior to her. She also says privatized space travel more likely than any Nasa flight. The trip can only be handled by a few because of the effects on the human body during space flight. Does'nt sound like a trip I'd enjoy. I believe this interview still available to view at GlobalTVEdmonton. Quoting: starcharterwhat is the sun, if it not a star,is she referring to the lism. which would be a fair call.the outer boundary certainly holds stars.mars is local travel with in the suns solar systems,maybe the view angle different like looking through water. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 920422 Australia 03/21/2010 05:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On thurs. March 18th, Canadian astronaut Roberta Bondar was interviewed on GlobalTVEdmonton that once in space one discovers that there are no stars! The twinkling stars we see from Earth can not be seen in space, it is all just a black void. NOTHINGNESS! She states that any exploration to Mars would be very difficult for astronauts mentally. They would see absolutely nothing until reaching Mars. Kind of like having to cross a gymnasium in total darkness while knowing that there is a door at the other end. Scary thought,no? So, what is the reality of the stars we see? Also she states, and confirms, that there are structures on the moon that have been there for thousands of years awaiting discovery(acknowledgment)that will shock the world. Look up "ancient structures on the moon", these vids have existed for some time now, but no astronaut admitted to this prior to her. She also says privatized space travel more likely than any Nasa flight. The trip can only be handled by a few because of the effects on the human body during space flight. Does'nt sound like a trip I'd enjoy. I believe this interview still available to view at GlobalTVEdmonton. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 920422what is the sun, if it not a star,is she referring to the lism. which would be a fair call.the outer boundary certainly holds stars.mars is local travel with in the suns solar systems,maybe the view angle different like looking through water. [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to outreach.atnf.csiro.au] the color of stars is plasma properties,the matter density is dark matter. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 920422 Australia 03/21/2010 05:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On thurs. March 18th, Canadian astronaut Roberta Bondar was interviewed on GlobalTVEdmonton that once in space one discovers that there are no stars! The twinkling stars we see from Earth can not be seen in space, it is all just a black void. NOTHINGNESS! She states that any exploration to Mars would be very difficult for astronauts mentally. They would see absolutely nothing until reaching Mars. Kind of like having to cross a gymnasium in total darkness while knowing that there is a door at the other end. Scary thought,no? So, what is the reality of the stars we see? Also she states, and confirms, that there are structures on the moon that have been there for thousands of years awaiting discovery(acknowledgment)that will shock the world. Look up "ancient structures on the moon", these vids have existed for some time now, but no astronaut admitted to this prior to her. She also says privatized space travel more likely than any Nasa flight. The trip can only be handled by a few because of the effects on the human body during space flight. Does'nt sound like a trip I'd enjoy. I believe this interview still available to view at GlobalTVEdmonton. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 920422what is the sun, if it not a star,is she referring to the lism. which would be a fair call.the outer boundary certainly holds stars.mars is local travel with in the suns solar systems,maybe the view angle different like looking through water. [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to outreach.atnf.csiro.au] the color of stars is plasma properties,the matter density is dark matter. [link to server1.sky-map.org] in short the dark matter is coming in on the long wave the short wave is producing plasma forming a dowser,see how the dowser is dispersing plasma to each form of matter e m complimentary,eventually congealing in a compression spiral to ignite.birth not death. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 921517 Canada 03/21/2010 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Bondar, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 921438When you look out into space, away from the earth, what do you see? Do you see points of light in every direction? Can you discern up and down? When you look down (I suppose this would be really interesting for a person performing a space walk) how does it feel to be standing on nothing? Bondar: First of all, the stars do not twinkle because we're above the atmosphere so they are basically holes of dead light and lots of them. Once one gets dark-adapted in space there are kajillions of stars. And all this light is so far away that some of the sources of the light may already have vanished because it takes of tens of thousands maybe millions of years for that light to reach us. I felt I was in a futuristic vehicle very much in the present but looking at light from the past, a canvas of the sky representing the past life of the universe. [link to www.cbc.ca] Your link is a dead end and she never said "Kajillion", I imagine that is a word you use to describe your own IQ. Lying sack of shit! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 921587 United Kingdom 03/21/2010 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On thurs. March 18th, Canadian astronaut Roberta Bondar was interviewed on GlobalTVEdmonton that once in space one discovers that there are no stars! The twinkling stars we see from Earth can not be seen in space, it is all just a black void. NOTHINGNESS! She states that any exploration to Mars would be very difficult for astronauts mentally. They would see absolutely nothing until reaching Mars. Kind of like having to cross a gymnasium in total darkness while knowing that there is a door at the other end. Scary thought,no? So, what is the reality of the stars we see? Also she states, and confirms, that there are structures on the moon that have been there for thousands of years awaiting discovery(acknowledgment)that will shock the world. Look up "ancient structures on the moon", these vids have existed for some time now, but no astronaut admitted to this prior to her. She also says privatized space travel more likely than any Nasa flight. The trip can only be handled by a few because of the effects on the human body during space flight. Does'nt sound like a trip I'd enjoy. I believe this interview still available to view at GlobalTVEdmonton. Quoting: starcharterThe Hubble kaleidoscope? |
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GONG User ID: 910543 Italy 03/21/2010 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And dont forget the soul catcher on the moon Quoting: Anonymous Coward 921350Anyone have info on this? [link to www.Gas_oven.com] “Skepticism is the easiest way: believe nothing, do nothing. UFO sightings archives [link to www.v-servers.eu] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 921622 Canada 03/21/2010 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On thurs. March 18th, Canadian astronaut Roberta Bondar was interviewed on GlobalTVEdmonton that once in space one discovers that there are no stars! The twinkling stars we see from Earth can not be seen in space, it is all just a black void. Quoting: ObeWayneKenobeBoy that's interesting........bet she's catching a lot of flack over that announcement! :( ...as she should! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 819128 United States 03/21/2010 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Earth's atmosphere acts like a giant lens that amplifies the light of the stars to us on the surface. Once you are outside of the 'lens', you cannot see the stars. Quoting: sunshine 455519hmmm... I like what you said. Quite possibly so ~ Thanks Sunshine! I figured no one noticed my post. |
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Talking Owl User ID: 62203 United States 03/21/2010 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are stars, but first one has to leave the Holodeck, then look through one of the windows on the ship. edit: I forgot to add, once you figure out how to leave the holodeck, don't be surprised to see most everybody asleep in stasis chambers. Remember the old saying, "life is but a dream". However, getting back into the holodeck program may be a problem; if you aren't the pilot, the ship has an automatic thing-a-ma-jig that ensures you won't go far enough to cause any troubles. Last Edited by The Starbuckian on 03/21/2010 11:35 AM “Queen Sarah, save us from the Black Dog King!” - from the play, Dissocia [link to tasaonline.org.au (secure)] "Never be anyone's French poodle." - Mr Hamilton |
starcharter (OP) User ID: 900302 Canada 03/21/2010 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | O.k.!!, I admit I had misquoted Ms. Bondar. She DID NOT say that there were NO STARS ,just the dead light of them. My apologies to her. She is a credit to her profession and is one of several Canadian astronauts that joined with American astronauts on shuttle missions. What was passed over in her interview was the fact she stated that the trip to Mars would be difficult on the Human passengers was that there was nothing to see between Earth and Mars and that propulsion was'nt an issue ,the black void is. Also, did no one notice the slight smile on her face as she was mentioning a "discovery" on the moon? She knows what's there, just avoided being specific. She did not say "structures" ,but what could she have been hinting at? ,the crashed alien ship? ,or the structures discovered and filmed by other AMERICAN astronauts? Also, I'm still looking at Nasa pics for ANY showing Stars in the backfround ,so far no luck, so WTF?, do they truly exist or not? I don't know ,I'm looking just like you. I seek out this info. because I know we have been lied to about this world ,that has been proven in so many ways. I'm no Einstein, but I do know when I'm being handed a load of crap!!! "Think, act, BE!, limitations are an illusion" |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 900302 Canada 03/21/2010 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, I'm still looking at Nasa pics for ANY showing Stars in the backfround ,so far no luck, so WTF?, do they truly exist or not? I don't know ,I'm looking just like you. I seek out this info. because I know we have been lied to about this world ,that has been proven in so many ways. I'm no Einstein, but I do know when I'm being handed a load of crap!!! Quoting: DrPostmanAll the images taken by NASA of Apollo on the moon or the Shuttle, Hubble, ISS, etc are taken in full daylight from the Sun. Do you see stars in any pics taken during the day here on Earth? images i saw of moon landings were facing away from sun or sideways, not TOWARD the sun. And yes I have seen stars still out in the morning, but I think they are the planets within our own system still lit up. Listen, I'm still on the fence regarding the stars but until I find the truth of it I'll keep looking, |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 921047 United Kingdom 03/22/2010 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She is right... You can see the stars from Earth because of the atmosphere, that's right the light from a star needs to hit something. You wont be able to see stars from the moon either... Take a serious think about it, a stars light is not like a torch but more like a laser. There is nothing until it hits something. And in space the retina of your eye (yes the light can hit your eye too)is far too small to pick that light up. Think of the Earth's atmosphere as a huge retina.... Remember I'm talking about seeing through the human eye not a camera, that may be different thing all together in space. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 921047 United Kingdom 03/22/2010 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Better Answer Not From Me No, you can't see stars with your own eyes in space because they are too far away. The angular diameter of the biggest star in the sky, Betelgeuse, is 50 milli- arc secondes and the angular resolution of an human eye in 60 arc secondes. Therefore, the angular diameter of the largest star in the sky is about 1000 smaller than the resolution of a human eye! Then You can't see star when you are in space. It is comparable to trying to look at a 1 dollar coin (2 centimer diameter) located 200 km away from you - you can't simply resolve it! You can see stars on earth thanks to the earth's atmosphere and the integration time of a human eye (few milliseconds). The atmosphere turbulence and multiple layers of different temperature will disperse the light beams coming from each star due to a series of refraction effect. After few milliseconds, the human eye would have observed many photons coming from the star that have been dispersed on slightly different angles each other- it looks like that the light beam of stars has been spread. And the diameter of this 'stain' on your retina is comparable to human eye resolution.. You can see it !! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 904535 New Zealand 03/22/2010 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On thurs. March 18th, Canadian astronaut Roberta Bondar was interviewed on GlobalTVEdmonton that once in space one discovers that there are no stars! The twinkling stars we see from Earth can not be seen in space, it is all just a black void. NOTHINGNESS! She states that any exploration to Mars would be very difficult for astronauts mentally. They would see absolutely nothing until reaching Mars. Kind of like having to cross a gymnasium in total darkness while knowing that there is a door at the other end. Scary thought,no? So, what is the reality of the stars we see? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 921587The Hubble kaleidoscope? Anyone that believes the 'starry kaleidoscope' photos are real, that NASA releases saying they came from a fictional Hubble telescope, has rocks in their head. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 922871 Canada 03/22/2010 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the Globalinterview she did seem very arrogant and full of herself. Apparently only people as fit as herself can make it into space -"congenital heart cases" need not apply. What isn't publicized is that she was Canada's first Bull Dyke Lesbian in space: [link to www.ncf.ca] Famous & Fabulous Canadian Queers So take it with a grain of salt. |