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ARE ALL CHRISTIANS GOING IN THE RAPTURE??? ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE READY???

 
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This seems to be one of the hot topics on 5 Doves recently, so I feel it is time that I forward one of my tracts that I wrote about 12 years ago, with several hundred thousand in circulation. For those of you who believe that ALL Christians will be taken in the Rapture, I hope and pray that you are right. On the other hand, if one believes that way, and feels no need to change his backslidden, lukewarm, compromising, unwatchful, worldly, or fence-straddling ways, WOE BE UNTO HIM, if he suddenly finds the Rapture happened and he was left behind.

Isn't it much safer to get as close to the Lord as we can in these VERY LAST DAYS? Is there any negative in doing that??? It is much safer and wiser to believe that all Christians are NOT going in the Rapture. Not only safer and wiser, but I believe MORE SCRIPTURAL, also. Following is the tract that I wrote:


ARE ALL CHRISTIANS GOING IN THE RAPTURE??? ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE READY???

Are All Christians going in the Rapture? If, at some point in your life, you have asked Jesus Christ into your life to become your personal Lord and Saviour, does this GUARANTEE that you are going in the Rapture? All signs point to the END OF THE AGE VERY SOON, SO THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION YOU COULD ASK YOURSELF IS, "AM I READY FOR THE RAPTURE?"

Before we go any further, let's clarify what the RAPTURE is. I Thessalonians 4:16-17 says, "For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

The Rapture is the GREAT ESCAPE from the horrendous Tribulation period that is SOON to come on ALL THE WORLD! It is for a body of born-again believers in Jesus Christ. The question is IS THE RAPTURE FOR ALL CHRISTIANS?

It is probably safe to say that a majority of Chlristians reading this tract would say "YES". We are NOT addressing the issue of salvation, or "once saved, always saved," or "eternal security". For those of you who answered "Yes", CAN YOU FIND EVEN ONE SCRIPTURE THAT GUARANTEES THAT ALL CHRISTIANS ARE GOING IN THE RAPTURE?

Just because you have always believed something, or your Pastor believes it, or your church teaches it, DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE! IT MUST BE BASED ON THE WORD OF GOD! It is our fervent desire that ALL CHRISTIANS are going in the Rapture. If ALL CHRISTIANS are going in the Rapture, we have lost nothing by drawing closer to the Lord to prepare for His Soon Return. If, on the other hand, we have a false sense of security regarding our readiness for the Rapture, and we ignore the Lord's warnings to GET OUR HEARTS RIGHT WITH HIM BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE, we have a TREMENDOUS amount to lose. Just read the Book of Revelation!

"Lord, your Word is awesome. Lord, your Word is powerful. Lord, your Word is sharper than any two-edged sword. Lord, use the convicting power of the word of the Living God and the convicting power of your mighty Holy Spirit to reveal to every one of us the Truth from your Word. If the message of this tract is not true, then cause it to have no effect on the hearts of those reading it. If, however, the message from your Word IS true, we ask you to release an outpouring of your Holy Spirit on Christians everywhere. For those who are not spiritually ready, cut to the very bottom of their heart and REMOVE THAT FALSE SENSE OF SECUITTY IN THE NAME OF JESUS! AMEN."

Your opinion, and my opinion, do not matter. What you have been taught does not matter. WHAT DOES THE WORD OF GOD SAY? This is ALL that really matters. The remainder of this tract will be WARNINGS DIRECTLY FROM THE WORD OF GOD CONCERNING YOUR READINESS FOR THE RAPTURE! (If YOU are ready, that's wonderful, but how about your family, your friends, and those who sit in the church pews around you?)

In Luke 21, the whole chapter is discussing the End of the Age and the Second Coming of Christ. In verses 34-36, JESUS GIVES AN OMINOUS WARNING TO ALL CHRISTIANS, "and TAKE HEED TO YOURSELVES, lest at any time YOUR HEARTS be over-charged with surfeiting (partying), and drunkenness, AND CARES OF THIS LIFE, and so THAT DAY COME UPON YOU UNAWARES. For as a snare (trap) shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. WATCH YE, therefore, AND PRAY ALWAYS, THAT YE MAY BE ACCOUNTED WORTHY TO ESCAPE ALL these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the son of man (Jesus)."

If ALL Christians were going to take part in this GREAT ESCAPE, WHY WOULD JESUS GIVE SUCH A STERN AND OMINOUS WARNING TO THE END-TIME CHRISTIAN??? This is DEFINITELY a very PERSONAL WARNING for each of us. The subject matter can be nothing but the Tribulation hour and the Rapture. Jesus says to pray always. Surely, Jesus knows that a non-Christian cannot be in an attitude of constant prayer. Surely, non-Christians are not expected to be LOOKING FOR THAT DAY and WATCHING for signs of His Soon Return.

Jesus is continuously talking to HIS FOLLOWERS throughout this chapter. Jesus says to TAKE HEED TO YOURSELF, He is addressing YOUR HEART and He is constantly personalizing this message to YOU, to YE, THE CHRISTIAN! ARE YOU LISTENING? ARE YOU READY???

What can we do, as Christians, to be found WORTHY of the Lord's GREAT ESCAPE, THE RAPTURE? Jesus tells us to be in a constant attitude of prayer. Become so close to the Lord that you can talk with Him about anything. Pray that the Lord would reveal to YOU anything in your life that might keep you from being ready for the Rapture. Then you need to act upon that which the Lord shows you to do.

In this passage, the Lord strongly encourages us to be WATCHING for the SIGNS of His Soon Return, so that we would not be UNAWARE of the approximate time of His Return. Jesus said we could KNOW when His Return was NEAR, EVEN AT THE DOORS! ALL SIGNS NOW CONFIRM TO US THAT HIS COMING IS AT THE DOOR!!!

If you do not have this firm conviction in your heart that our Lord's Return is AT THE DOOR, it is probably because you have not been WATCHING for signs as He continuously admonishes us to do over and over again in the New Testament (Read Mark 13 and 14). Are the CARES OF THIS LIFE your priority, or do you so much look forward to His Return that YOU LOVE HIS APPEARING (II Timothy 4:8) more than the things of this life?

The CARES OF THIS LIFE (Luke 21:34) are what cause us to become "worldly" Christians, or "backslidden" Christians, or "lukewarm" Christians. Luke 21:34-36 (Go back and read it again) strongly implies that these types of Christians ARE NOT READY FOR THE RAPTURE!!!

In Revelation, starting with Chapter 6, the horrible judgments of the Tribulation are poured out on an unsuspecting world. In Chapters 1-3, there are several WARNINGS TO THE CHRISTIANS IN THE LAST DAYS, WARNINGS BEFORE THE RAPTURE AND THE TRIBULATION IN CHAPTERS 6-19.

The constant theme of Revelation, Chapter 2, is the NEED OF THE END-TIME CHRISTIAN TO REPENT! Rev. 2: 4-5 says, "I have somewhat against thee, because THOU HAS LEFT THY FIRST LOVE. Remember, therefore, from whence thou are fallen, AND REPENT, and do the first works; or else I WILL COME UNTO THEE QUICKLY, AND WILL REMOVE THY CANDLESTICK OUT OF HIS PLACE, EXCEPT THOU REPENT."

If you HAVE LEFT YOUR FIRST LOVE you are a "backslidden" Christian. You need to REPENT and restore your relationship with Christ back to what it should be. Is the Lord speaking to YOUR HEART RIGHT NOW?

Rev. 3:10 says, "Because thou has kept the word of my patience, I ALSO WILL KEEP THEE FROM THE HOUR OF TEMPTATION, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth." The implication of this verse is obvious: If the end-time Christian does NOT stay close to the Lord and endure to the end, HE WILL NOT BE KEPT FROM THE TRIBULATION HOUR!

Rev. 3: 15-16 is ANOTHER OMINOUS WARNING TO ALL CHRISTIANS, "I know thy works, that thou are neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then BECAUSE THOU ART LUKEWARM, AND NEITHER COLD NOT HOT, I WILL SPUE THEE OUT OF MY MOUTH."

Can you honestly give another explanation for this verse, other than the LORD CASTING LUKEWARM CHRISTIANS OUT INTO THE TRIBULATION? What are YOU doing that would show the Lord that you are ON FIRE for Him? These verses say emphatically that their WORKS WERE LUKEWARM.

What happens to the unwatchful SERVANT who believes his LORD is not coming back for a while and is not that concerned about the way he is living his life? Matthew 24: 50-51 says, "the LORD of that SERVANT...shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth (The Tribulation Hour?)." In Matthew 25:30, we see the exact same result for the unprofitable SERVANT. In both cases, there is A LORD--SERVANT RELATIONSHIP ALREADY ESTABLISHED. ARE ALL CHRISTIANS GOING IN THE RAPTURE? WHAT DOES THE WORD SAY???

This world is full of LUKEWARM, BACKSLIDDEN, UNWATCHFUL, AND WORLDLY Christians. In Rev. 7:9, we see a GREAT MULTITUDE, that no man could number, standing before the Lamb of God in Heaven. Verse 14 describes them, "These are they which came OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION, AND HAVE WASHED THEIR ROBES, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." In Chapter 20, it says they were beheaded for not taking the Mark of the Beast.

This great multitude of people already had robes. Your Robe of righteousness is given to you at the time of your salvation. They were already saved but their ROBES WERE DIRTY. These COMPROMISING Christians were caught up in the CARES OF THE WORLD when the Rapture happened and they were cast into the Tribulation hour like the Scriptures had warned them about so many times. They WASHED THEIR DIRTY ROBES in the Great Tribulation because there is no compromise then---IT'S EITHER JESUS CHRIST (and lose your head) OR ANTICHRIST (and lose your soul FOREVER)!!!

Do you really want to have to face that choice? It is clear from God's Word what you must do to be assured of a place in the Rapture. YOU MUST ACT QUICKLY BECAUSE THE TIME FOR THE RAPTURE IS ALMOST HERE!

1. Make sure that you have received Jesus Christ into your life as your PERSONAL Lord and Saviour.

2. Examine your own heart for any signs of backsliding, worldliness, unwatchfulness, compromising, and lukewarmness.

3. REPENT (Turn COMPLETELY away from sin and turn COMPLETELY around towards Jesus). Sin separates you from God, even as a Christian.

4. Study end-time Biblical prophecy until you become completely convinced that His Coming is, indeed, AT THE DOOR. This will help keep you from temptation and sin. JESUS IS COMING VERY SOON!!!

5. Do something for the Lord. (Passing out tracts would be a good start.)

6. Examine your priorities, lest the CARES OF THIS LIFE cause YOU to MISS THE RAPTURE, as we are so adamantly WARNED about in Luke 21, and so many other Scriptures.

7. Draw closer to God by praying, reading His Word, attending a fundamental church as often as possible, and surround yourself with a Christian atmosphere (Christian friends, books, music, radio, TV, etc.)

8. PRAY DILIGENTLY. ASK THE LORD TO REVEAL TO YOU ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE THAT EVEN MIGHT KEEP YOU FROM THE RAPTURE. PRAY THAT THE LORD WOULD GIVE YOU A PEACE, IF YOU ARE READY, AND AN UNREST AND UNEASINESS IN YOUR HEART, IF YOU ARE NOT READY.

9. Listen for His voice and then STAY OPEN TO THE LEADING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

10. Act upon that which the Lord is calling you to do. DO IT NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!

If the Lord has planted the least bit of doubt or uneasiness in your heart, will you swallow your pride and pray this prayer with me:

"Dear Lord, Thank you for preparing a WAY OF ESCAPE from the horrible Tribulation to come. It is my
sincere desire to be ready for your Soon Return, so that I can participate in the Rapture. Give me a COMPLETE PEACE IN MY HEART FROM YOU if I am, indeed, ready.

Let there be no false sense of security in my heart concerning my readiness for Your Return. Begin to reveal to me things in my life and in my heart that might keep me from the Rapture. Show me what I need to do to BE READY and then give me the power to act upon that which you show me to do. Draw me away from the world and closer to you every day. Use me in whatever way you can to help others who may not be ready for your Return. Fill me with your peace when I am ready and fill me with YOUR POWER, for victory over sin and temptation, and for effective service for your kingdom. In Jesus' mighty name, Amen."

The words of the Lord that He would leave with you in these last days before His Return, "REMEMBER THEREFORE, HOW THOU HAST RECEIVED AND HEARD, AND HOLD FAST, AND REPENT. IF THEREFORE, THOW SHALT NOT WATCH, I WILL COME ON THEE AS A THIEF, AND THOU SHALT NOT KNOW WHAT HOUR I WILL COME UPON THEE." (Revelation 3:3)


Feel free to make copies of this tract or forward it to your backslidden, lukewarm, compromising, unwatchful, and worldly family members and friends. Do not delay. Time is short. What we do, we must do quickly now.

Maranatha!

Ron Reese

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In Jude 1:14, the Lord returns "with tens of thousands of his saints", not 2 billion Christians of varying dedication.
I had a vision of the gathering in the clouds, whereas I was "caught up with them to meet the Lord" in spirit. Immediately, the clouds opened up and the Lord descended from the sky, levitated downward, in a hail of hostile fire.

Then a friend noticed that I was in a trance and starting shaking me out of it, which I did not like at all.

All true Christians will be caught up in the clouds in spirit, and some physically. The claim that all Christians will be raptured out is false, for Revelations predicts the beheadings of Christians, right?
That's my take, take it or leave it.
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Let the worshiper go with the rapture. Then we will remain with people who can think for themselves to try to change this world.
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Only those that have accepted Jesus and Lord and Saviour will go in the RAPTURE. Those who believe that HE is the ONLY WAY TO SALVATION.

Not "one" of the ways but the ONLY way.

All people who have placed their Hope, Trust and Faith in Him will be taken.

We are commanded to pray that we are worthy to be taken and always to keep watch and be ready in Jesus Christ.

God Bless!!!
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"We are commanded"

This is your view of a God, thus the reason I am so happy the rapture will take people like you. I do not see heaven as being commanded in eternity.
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by my calculations, less than 20,000 will be taken. Sorry
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"We are commanded"

This is your view of a God, thus the reason I am so happy the rapture will take people like you. I do not see heaven as being commanded in eternity.
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You have a point, I used the wrong word there. Here is the actual scripture below. It is more of an encouragement or "advice" rather than a command. You'll have to excuse my poor word choice here. But you can see from the scripture below what the spirit of the "advice" is.

Luke 21: 20-36

20"When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. 22For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. 23How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. 24They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

25"There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near."

29He told them this parable: "Look at the fig tree and all the trees. 30When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. 31Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near.

32"I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 33Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

34"Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap. 35For it will come upon all those who live on the face of the whole earth. 36Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man."
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaat??? 2 billions catholics and 20,000 taken by Jesus??? You could as well take the rest once you started to set up this religious cult. Why taking the cream and leaving out the rest to continue to teach us not to find God by ourselves?
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rapture is false doctrine
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rapture is false doctrine
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If the rapture is a false doctrine why then is it that Jesus Himself said to pray and always be ready to "ESCAPE" all these things that are about to happen, as the scripture I quoted above says?

If we go are to go through the TRIBULATIONS as some of you believe, then how is that that Jesus says we will ESCAPE it?

Jesus says clearly the word ESCAPE here and I for one am going to take Him up on that offer!

God Bless!!!
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yea. just because you people subscribed to an organized religion invented in middle east, you were going to get teleported here and there.

what matters is what's inside you. not religion.
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I am not going to follow the Annunakis and this one God view is too close to the way they are thinking. I have been kicked by the Andromedans to the Pleiades as to being the devil to them. I will keep my good work in rejecting religious worship. I am already in hell? What worse could happen to me? If I get uncreated because of not accepting another savior, I guess 99% are going to be it too.
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yea. just because you people subscribed to an organized religion invented in middle east, you were going to get teleported here and there.

what matters is what's inside you. not religion.
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What would Turkey know about God? You who believe in a god that instructs violence to do his will?

Once Turkey had cities and churches that worshipped Jesus Christ and revered Him and still I am sure there are a few that believe unto His name, but oh my have you fallen low.

How is it that you have been so deceived by your new "president" who turns your eyes away from the true God to the false one called "allah"?
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so where is jesus going to take you?

you know, heaven is to be here on earth

so, where are you raptured folks going to go?
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so where is jesus going to take you?

you know, heaven is to be here on earth

so, where are you raptured folks going to go?
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We are going to heaven for 7 years while the World is judged for we are not meant for judgement.

When the Lord comes back at the end of the 7 years, WE will come with HIM, for from the point we are RAPTURED,

WE WILL ALWAYS BE WITH THE LORD.
WE WILL BECOME GOD'S PEOPLE!!!

And all those who come to belief in Him during the Tribulations will also join us.

And then after the 1000 years of Jesus Christ's reign on Earth, He, our CREATOR will create a New Heaven and a New Earth where all evil will pass away.

WE WILL BE FOREVER WITH GOD AND GOD WILL BE FOREVER WITH US AS HE PROMISES TO THOSE WHO OVERCOME AND CHOOSE HIM AND HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST!!!

God Bless!!!
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What would Turkey know about God? You who believe in a god that instructs violence to do his will?

Once Turkey had cities and churches that worshipped Jesus Christ and revered Him and still I am sure there are a few that believe unto His name, but oh my have you fallen low.

How is it that you have been so deceived by your new "president" who turns your eyes away from the true God to the false one called "allah"?
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ask that to turkey. not me.

i dont have any business with your 'religions'.
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so where is jesus going to take you?

you know, heaven is to be here on earth

so, where are you raptured folks going to go?



We are going to heaven for 7 years while the World is judged for we are not meant for judgement.



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Uhhh--heaven is ON THE EARTH. have you bothered to actually READ the Bible?

how can you be LEAVING the earth and GOING to heaven when heaven is ON THE EARTH????
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144,000
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so where is jesus going to take you?

you know, heaven is to be here on earth

so, where are you raptured folks going to go?



We are going to heaven for 7 years while the World is judged for we are not meant for judgement.








Uhhh--heaven is ON THE EARTH. have you bothered to actually READ the Bible?

how can you be LEAVING the earth and GOING to heaven when heaven is ON THE EARTH????
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Heaven is where Jesus Christ IS, where GOD Is. Is Jesus Christ here during the Tribulations?

Even the New Jerusalem comes DOWN FROM HEAVEN when Jesus Christ starts His Kingdom.

Do you read the Bible? Did you READ Revelations?

Revelations 21:

1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."
5He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."

6He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

9One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, "Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb." 10And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. 11It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. 12It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. 13There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south and three on the west. 14The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

15The angel who talked with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city, its gates and its walls. 16The city was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the city with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadia[a]in length, and as wide and high as it is long. 17He measured its wall and it was 144 cubits thick,[c] by man's measurement, which the angel was using. 18The wall was made of jasper, and the city of pure gold, as pure as glass. 19The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of precious stone. The first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the third chalcedony, the fourth emerald, 20the fifth sardonyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst.[d] 21The twelve gates were twelve pearls, each gate made of a single pearl. The great street of the city was of pure gold, like transparent glass.

22I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. 24The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendor into it. 25On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there. 26The glory and honor of the nations will be brought into it. 27Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life.
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I didn't read your whole post but I can asssure you that msot Christians aren't Christians at all. SOme aren't truly spiritual, some enjoy the sufferings of others (gays and muslims), some persecute and try to force others to believe as they do instead of living a good life.

I am a Christian, but if the rapture happens I don't expect to go, nor is it necessary for me.
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By the way,

I forgot to add, that New Jerusalem that came down from Heaven? Thats that house Jesus promised us who believe in Him.

Remember when His apostles asked Him where He was going, He said:

John 14:1

1"Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God[a]; trust also in me. 2In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4You know the way to the place where I am going."


This is WHERE WE ARE GOING IN THE RAPTURE!!!

WE are going to this place that Jesus Christ said He is going to first to make a place for US!

This is where we are going to the NEW JERUSALEM!!!

God Bless!!!
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144,000
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No the 144,000 are the Jews from Israel who have comed to belief in Jesus Christ during the TRIBULATIONS who will go and spread the message of the Gospel of Christ during this 7 year period.

For the Church will not exist on Earth anymore, for we will ALL have been taken during the RAPTURE. All those who have placed their Hope, Trust and Faith in Jesus Christ.

A great deal MORE than 144,000.

God Bless!!!
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Before we go any further, let's clarify what the RAPTURE is. I Thessalonians 4:16-17 says, "For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

The Rapture is the GREAT ESCAPE from the horrendous Tribulation period that is SOON to come on ALL THE WORLD! It is for a body of born-again believers in Jesus Christ. The question is IS THE RAPTURE FOR ALL CHRISTIANS?
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You contridict yourself with your own reasoning. You say the christians "will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord". So most christians I talk to say when they are raptured then they will go to heaven and be with Jesus forever.

But yet it clearly says that Jesus will be on earth during and after that time. I think if there is any thing to the rapture then its only his people going up into the clods to greet him and they all come down back to earth to finish off satan. I mean seriously just what work is there to do in Heaven? Nothing...all the work will be down here and the church will be AWOL? Give me a break.


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Before we go any further, let's clarify what the RAPTURE is. I Thessalonians 4:16-17 says, "For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

The Rapture is the GREAT ESCAPE from the horrendous Tribulation period that is SOON to come on ALL THE WORLD! It is for a body of born-again believers in Jesus Christ. The question is IS THE RAPTURE FOR ALL CHRISTIANS?

You contridict yourself with your own reasoning. You say the christians "will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord". So most christians I talk to say when they are raptured then they will go to heaven and be with Jesus forever.

But yet it clearly says that Jesus will be on earth during and after that time. I think if there is any thing to the rapture then its only his people going up into the clods to greet him and they all come down back to earth to finish off satan. I mean seriously just what work is there to do in Heaven? Nothing...all the work will be down here and the church will be AWOL? Give me a break.


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I'm not sure why your saying i'm contradicting myself when I have not done so in anything of what I said.

If what I have said has not been clear, let me spell it out for you.

RAPTURE = The dead in Christ rises first. Then we who are ALIVE are caught up with the dead (who are now resurrected) in the clouds with the Lord and the Lord takes us to the New Jerusalem City that He prepared for us. Jesus comes and doesn't actually DESCEND TO EARTH, He comes to take us out from the AIR, IN THE CLOUDS.

After the 7 year TRIBULATION is over, when Jesus comes back and puts His actual FEET ON THE EARTH, We will also come back with Him in His 1000 year reign and Kingdom and after that when He makes a New Heaven and New Earth.

How is it that you say I contradicted myself? I think the chronology of what I am saying speaks for itself.
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144,000


No the 144,000 are the Jews from Israel who have comed to belief in Jesus Christ during the TRIBULATIONS who will go and spread the message of the Gospel of Christ during this 7 year period.

For the Church will not exist on Earth anymore, for we will ALL have been taken during the RAPTURE. All those who have placed their Hope, Trust and Faith in Jesus Christ.

A great deal MORE than 144,000.

God Bless!!!
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I think you are totaly wrong.

Revelation 7:1-8

Revelation 7
144,000 Sealed

1After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. 2Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 3"Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God." 4Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.
5From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,
from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,
from the tribe of Gad 12,000,
6from the tribe of Asher 12,000,
from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,
from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,
7from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,
from the tribe of Levi 12,000,
from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,
8from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,
from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,
from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000


It clearly says that only 12 thousand will be from the tribe of Judah. All Jews are from the tribe of Judah. So that means the rest are from the lost ten tribes who are not jewish. Not all Israelis are jewish. Most of them are gentiles. Fact!
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144,000


No the 144,000 are the Jews from Israel who have comed to belief in Jesus Christ during the TRIBULATIONS who will go and spread the message of the Gospel of Christ during this 7 year period.

For the Church will not exist on Earth anymore, for we will ALL have been taken during the RAPTURE. All those who have placed their Hope, Trust and Faith in Jesus Christ.

A great deal MORE than 144,000.

God Bless!!!

I think you are totaly wrong.

Revelation 7:1-8

Revelation 7
144,000 Sealed

1After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. 2Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 3"Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God." 4Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.
5From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,
from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,
from the tribe of Gad 12,000,
6from the tribe of Asher 12,000,
from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,
from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,
7from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,
from the tribe of Levi 12,000,
from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,
8from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,
from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,
from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000


It clearly says that only 12 thousand will be from the tribe of Judah. All Jews are from the tribe of Judah. So that means the rest are from the lost ten tribes who are not jewish. Not all Israelis are jewish. Most of them are gentiles. Fact!
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Yes they are sealed by God to do the ministry they were prepared to do during the Tribulations. Nowhere does it say these are the ones that are going to be taken during the RAPTURE, is there?
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I'm not sure why your saying i'm contradicting myself when I have not done so in anything of what I said.

If what I have said has not been clear, let me spell it out for you.

RAPTURE = The dead in Christ rises first. Then we who are ALIVE are caught up with the dead (who are now resurrected) in the clouds with the Lord and the Lord takes us to the New Jerusalem City that He prepared for us. Jesus comes and doesn't actually DESCEND TO EARTH, He comes to take us out from the AIR, IN THE CLOUDS.

After the 7 year TRIBULATION is over, when Jesus comes back and puts His actual FEET ON THE EARTH, We will also come back with Him in His 1000 year reign and Kingdom and after that when He makes a New Heaven and New Earth.

How is it that you say I contradicted myself? I think the chronology of what I am saying speaks for itself.
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But the "servants of god" are the 144,000 and they are on earth. How can you be servants of god and be in heavan? If you were not judged good enough to be one of the 144,000 then I question if you are good enough to be hiding out in Heaven when TSHTF.
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Yes they are sealed by God to do the ministry they were prepared to do during the Tribulations. Nowhere does it say these are the ones that are going to be taken during the RAPTURE, is there?
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Oh I see.....2 classes of "servants of God". The ones called the 144,000 left on earth do all the heavy lifting while the rest of you deadbeat rapture "servants of god" are having a good time in heaven surfing the internet and follicking around in heavenly bliss.


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I'm not sure why your saying i'm contradicting myself when I have not done so in anything of what I said.

If what I have said has not been clear, let me spell it out for you.

RAPTURE = The dead in Christ rises first. Then we who are ALIVE are caught up with the dead (who are now resurrected) in the clouds with the Lord and the Lord takes us to the New Jerusalem City that He prepared for us. Jesus comes and doesn't actually DESCEND TO EARTH, He comes to take us out from the AIR, IN THE CLOUDS.

After the 7 year TRIBULATION is over, when Jesus comes back and puts His actual FEET ON THE EARTH, We will also come back with Him in His 1000 year reign and Kingdom and after that when He makes a New Heaven and New Earth.

How is it that you say I contradicted myself? I think the chronology of what I am saying speaks for itself.

But the "servants of god" are the 144,000 and they are on earth. How can you be servants of god and be in heavan? If you were not judged good enough to be one of the 144,000 then I question if you are good enough to be hiding out in Heaven when TSHTF.
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? Everyone who does God's will is a servant of God. That doesn't mean these 144,000 are the only ones. They are servants of God because they will be doing His ministry while the Church is absent during the TRIBULATIONS.

Where does it say that these 144,000 are the ONLY servants of God? Why are you again assuming things that are NOT written in scripture?
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Yes they are sealed by God to do the ministry they were prepared to do during the Tribulations. Nowhere does it say these are the ones that are going to be taken during the RAPTURE, is there?

Oh I see.....2 classes of "servants of God". The ones called the 144,000 left on earth do all the heavy lifting while the rest of you deadbeat rapture "servants of god" are having a good time in heaven surfing the internet and follicking around in heavenly bliss.


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Hmm are you now mocking God? The only reason the Church is taken is because they have placed their Faith and Trust in Jesus Christ and He promised to come back for them.

The 144,000 are those of the JEWS who have come to Faith and Trust in Jesus Christ WHILE IN THE TRIBULATIONS and they set out to do what the Church HAS BEEN DOING before they were Raptured out.
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ya know I personally hope the rapture comes REAL soon.


Then we would be rid of all these loony toon
glazed eyed, single dimensional christians ..

Yep.. hows about all the non christians like me help ya'll pack ..? I'm there !!!

Will lend a hand .. with pleasure !!

I also live in hope that frootloop christians will find ANOTHER forum .. not a conspiracy,fringe forum like GLP

The name isn't an invitation for christian nut jobs
but is surely being overrun by them
rolls eyes.. sheesh

This is the first and LAST rant I have at you guys ..
wot a pain in the arse you all are ..

good luck with the rapture ..

Byeeeee





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