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Message Subject <<< UPDATED 04/01/2010 >>> "All I can say is, many of you are close!!!" ***Our Changing Solar System Environment
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 916665


[link to mikephilbin.blogspot.com]


This is the above blog's reference to emp solar storm... At least we know Mike Philbin has been on this web site, even if he's not the I hate the chimps guy ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 323774


Here are the 2 links to SOFIA. It is one of the items old OP pointed us towards.

[link to www.sofia.usra.edu]

[link to www.nasa.gov]



Sickcent,

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8398


I think the summary in this thread was good already. Current mainstream/accepted scientific theories do not allow us to understand what IBEX has found, all they know is there's a high energy, high density plasma streaming into our solar system past the weakened magnetic field of the sun (heliosphere). Why do they insist on calling plasma ENA? Is it because the overall charge of the plasma is balanced and therefore considered neutral? Accelerated CHARGED particles make up the majority of the solar wind (a low density plasma) and the interstellar wind should be the same, just different density temperature/energy and composition.




Regardless of the exact composition and characteristics of the plasma we know that it's already caused an increase in cosmic rays dramatically in the past few years, compressed the sun's magnetic field to 50% of what it was 20 years ago, altered the sun's behaviour contrary to our predictions and models and (lack of) understanding. Our changing climate, extreme weather etc are all caused by something, remember cause and effect?

If "climate change" is not the result of human actions, at least directly, then the cause must be from space or within the Earth. Considering there is plasma (molten rock and metal aka lava) within the Earth it would suggest a connection to plasma that surrounds us. And according to Anthony L. Perrat as I posted in the emails (plasma physicist in Los Alamos Nuclear facility) a dense plasma has already entered our solar system.

Understand plasma or not, it's there and makes up 99.99% of the visible universe, matter as we know it, solids, liquids and gases, are only a fraction of .1%, an anomaly.
 Quoting: Xenus


From my plasma thread.

Background

Extending from the top of the middle atmosphere to some hundreds of kilometers into space is the Earth's upper atmosphere (Figure 1.2) and its embedded ionosphere. This tenuous layer of neutral and charged particles shields the human habitat from high energy solar radiation and particles, enables part of the extensive communication network on which society increasingly relies, and is the medium in which thousands of spacecraft now orbit. Unlike the relatively placid lower atmosphere, the upper atmosphere is a region of extreme spatial and temporal variability, constantly agitated by solar radiative and auroral forcings. Driving the processes that at any instant define the physical state of the upper atmosphere and ionosphere is the solar radiation at wavelengths less than about 180 nm. Many of the region's continually changing physical phenomena derive directly or indirectly from changes in this radiation and from the impact of energetic particles channeled into the upper atmosphere at high latitudes via the Earth's magnetic field.

While solar variability exerts a dominating influence on the Earth's upper atmosphere, any direct effect on the biosphere appears to be more subtle than that exerted by solar forcing of the middle and lower atmospheres. The fact that the highly variable upper atmosphere is coupled to the middle atmosphere through chemical, radiative, and dynamical
mechanisms, and to the troposphere through the global electric circuit, cannot be ignored. Understanding how the upper atmosphere varies naturally, and how it may be affected by human activities, is necessary from a societal and economic perspective because of the critical role played by the upper atmosphere in communications, navigation, national defense, and a wide assortment of space related endeavors, including the presence of humans in space. Furthermore, current modeling studies indicate that the upper atmosphere may itself be sensitive to global change caused by human activities.
[link to www.nap.edu]



The information is out there just in many many pieces with different terms and viewpoints all trying to describe something we don't understand because we like to divide and dissect things in order to understand it, find how the parts work together in the whole and we do this in segregated and compartmentalized groups. Electromagnetic Radiation/energy excites matter, doesn't this excite you? When everyone finally understands that something is happening maybe then we can start to work out what... Instead of blindly following beliefs and assuming you know, try thinking based upon what we do know.

quote:Sickscent]

Xenus, can you provide a link where the high density plasma streaming into our solar system past the weakened magnetic field of the sun (heliosphere)? The reason I am asking for it is that I haven't found that to be shown yet. Nowhere have I seen in the articles state that this phenom has actually penetrated the heliosphere. If it truly has, from a scientific article, it is a HUGE finding.

Also, can you show where you equate ENA particles to plasma. I don't understand the exact science of this plasma yet. Is it due to its temp of 6000K? Does that form a plasma when particles are at that temp?


At those temperature/energy levels matter can ONLY exist as a plasma.

Thread: PLASMA, its importance and why you should know about it. Warning, educational.

I created this thread to explain in the most simplest terms what a plasma is, there's a few resources there for the not so scientifically inclined.
 Quoting: Xenus


THEMIS satellite has shown us that we're connected to the sun... I posted about it a few times but I guess no one was interested last year. >_<

We rely on the Sun's energy to live on Earth and the aurora relies on the Sun's energy to drive the currents that make the aurora. The Sun is our nearest star. It is, as all stars are, a hot ball of gas made up mostly of Hydrogen. The Sun is so hot that most of the gas is actually plasma, the fourth state of matter.

The first state is a solid and it is the coldest state of matter. As we heat up a solid it becomes liquid. Liquid is the second state of matter. As we heat up liquid, the liquid turns to gas. Gas is the third state of matter. As we heat up the gas, atoms break apart into charged particles turning the gas into plasma. This is not the same type of plasma that is found in your blood: same name, different stuff.

The Sun's plasma is so hot that the most energetic charged particles can escape from the Sun's gravity and fly away, out into space. We call this plasma the solar wind because it blows out away from the Sun and past the planets, interacting with their magnetic fields and/or atmospheres. Along with the solar wind comes the Sun's magnetic field, which reaches from the Sun out to past Pluto and Neptune.

Charged particles and magnetic fields influence each other. So when the solar wind, which is made up of charged particles, blows past Earth's magnetosphere, the shape of the magnetic field changes from the dipole magnetic field -- shown on Earth's Magnetosphere page -- to a plasma-swept magnetosphere that looks more like someone's hair got blown in the wind. This interaction between the Sun's plasma wind and Earth's magnetosphere is known as the Sun-Earth Connection.

The side of the magnetosphere getting hit by the solar wind is called the "dayside magnetosphere" because it is facing the Sun. The part of the magnetosphere that stretches back as though it were streaming with the solar wind is called the magnetotail. The magnetotail is very important to the THEMIS mission.

The every day interaction between the solar wind and Earth's magnetic fields causes currents to flow between Earth's upper atmosphere and the magnetosphere, mostly the magnetotail. And just as currents flow through a neon light to light up the gas, the currents flow between the magnetotail and upper atmosphere light up Earth's gases to cause the aurora.

Sometimes the magnetosphere stores more energy than it can release in a slow manner and something inside the magnetotail "breaks" and waves and currents are generated that trigger the beautiful and mysterious dancing aurora that we've been talking about on these THEMIS science pages. THEMIS will solve the long standing mystery as to what triggers this energy release in the magnetotail that leads to an auroral substorm.

[link to ds9.ssl.berkeley.edu]

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
Magnetosphere simulation.

Space tornadoes span a volume of space about the size of the Earth, and funnel hot ionized gas into the ionosphere, triggering bright auroras.

(PhysOrg.com) -- Earth-bound tornadoes are puny compared to "space tornadoes," which span a volume as large as Earth and produce electrical currents exceeding 100,000 amperes, according to new observations by a suite of five NASA space probes.

The probe cluster, called Time History of Events and Macroscale Interactions during Substorms (THEMIS), recorded the extent and power of these electrical funnels as the probes passed through them during their orbit of Earth. Ground measurements showed that the space tornadoes channel the electrical current into the ionosphere to spark bright and colorful auroras on Earth.

The findings were presented today at the general assembly of the European Geosciences Union (EGU) in Vienna, Austria.

Space tornadoes are rotating plasmas of hot, ionized gas flowing at speeds of more than a million miles per hour, far faster than the 200 m.p.h. winds of terrestrial tornadoes, according to Andreas Keiling, a research space physicist at the University of California, Berkeley's Space Sciences Laboratory.

Keiling works on THEMIS, which was built and is now operated by UC Berkeley. The five space probes were launched by NASA in February 2007 to solve a decades-long mystery about the origin of magnetic storms that power the Northern and Southern Lights

Both terrestrial and space tornadoes consist of funnel-shaped structures. Space tornadoes, however, generate huge amounts of electrical currents inside the funnel. These currents flow along twisted magnetic field lines from space into the ionosphere where they power several processes, most notably bright auroras such as the Northern Lights, Keiling said.

While these intense currents do not cause any direct harm to humans, on the ground they can damage man-made structures, such as power transformers.

The THEMIS spacecraft observed these tornadoes, or "flow vortices," at a distance of about 40,000 miles from Earth. Simultaneous measurements by THEMIS ground observatories confirmed the tornadoes' connection to the ionosphere.

Keiling's colleagues include Karl-Heinz Glassmeier of the Institute for Geophysics and Extraterrestrial Physics (IGEP, TU) in Braunschweig, Germany, and Olaf Amm of the Finnish Meteorological Institute.

[link to www.physorg.com]

Funnel-shaped aka SPIRAL. Like the spiral in Norway. Not a missile, a natural event.
 Quoting: Xenus


WOW Sixscent ...
I am watching this video




and listening to the guy it his coffee-cream explenation of this solarsystem, I recall my posting about those black-holes and the question that was rising inside off me IF there were also WHITE HOLES existing !

WHAT IF OUR SUN IS such A WHITE HOLE ?????

(That also lines up with the theory of Nassim Haramein that the sun could be used as a portal)


Here my posting in wich I gave an answer on your comment :







I think I know the one you are talking about....was the rope a giant serpent?

If so the legend associated with it is that the good pulling on one side of the side 9head side I think) and the evil pulling on the other, churn the milkyway to produce the elixer of Imortality!


YES It is translated as THE GOOD and THE EVIL ... White versus Black/light versus dark

The light SUN : ous sun
The Dark SUN : the twin ...

Positive versus negative :
could be also interpreted as the positive electick charges and negative charges, push and pull charges-forces.
This is not about god-good and evil-bad, but more about influences and science instead of religion.

"The Churning took place at the beginning of the Golden Age (Krta Yuga), at which time the celestial forces of light (Devas) and the forces of darkness (Asuras) agreed to cooperate in an effort to generate the elixir of immortality known as Amrita by churning the great ocean that surrounded the planet. The Demigods uprooted Mount Mandara (Sanskrit for "cream" or "clarified butter") from its resting place at the Earth's north pole, and transported it to the center of the great Milk Ocean. "

-Churning of the Milk Ocean > milky way
-the Golden Age > timespan ahead of us, our future
-celestial forces of light > our sun
-forces of darkness > dark dwarf sun
-elixir of immortality > life bringin and seeding, mutation changes so that life can live on
-transported it to the center of the great Milk Ocean > a tubelike thing like discussed before such as the sun and the earth connects magneticaly could also be the fact connetcing earth to the centre of the galaxy ...

Lokk to it with the knowledge we have been discussing in this thread ;)


Ok, you have my attention... Please go on...


Good points. We DO live in the physical universe of polarity. The basis of physicality is the constant oscillation of duality, where balance is perfection. But balance is a paradox because the only place for perfect balance to exist is singularity points reciding at the moment that the oscillation changes direction.


A singularity is a STILL-point ... not "balance" in the sence of working forces, the singularity is the end/the result of perfection indeed, and like the middle of the tornado pure stillness.
Balance like we know it is the tension between at least 2 forces and therefore active and in motion, moving ...
Yin and yang is both, it is the proces > the 2 tears with dots who create balance, but it also a big dot as a whole wich is The Singularity.
It is fractalistic in nature ... coz you could imagine that the 1 stillpoint is compossed out of 2 smaller stillpoints : a black and a white (sun?) , wich are on their turn if you could zoom in again a yin-yang sign compossed out off two balancing active forces , ... and so on and on until infinity in big and small - micro and macro.

That makes me wonder right now ...
if we have dark and light suns (twin forces), do we also have WHITE HOLES as the balancing (twin) power of black holes ????
Hmmmm... interesting ....



(Not all in this univers is polarity,
not everything has a positive and negative charge like a batery is a dual-pole
German scientists I met a few months ago talked about SINGLE poles ! (so a real singularity) They exist,
and the big-men-on-top want to know alllll about it.)

hiding
 Quoting: Krispy71


GIANT RIBBON DISCOVERED AT THE EDGE OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM


FLUFFY MYSTERY AT EDGE OF SOLAR SYSTEM SOLVED




quote:Sickscent

First, Ribbon article:
[link to science.nasa.gov]


Giant Ribbon Discovered at the Edge of the Solar System

10.15.2009

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October 15, 2009: For years, researchers have known that the solar system is surrounded by a vast bubble of magnetism. Called the "heliosphere," it springs from the sun and extends far beyond the orbit of Pluto, providing a first line of defense against cosmic rays and interstellar clouds that try to enter our local space. Although the heliosphere is huge and literally fills the sky, it emits no light and no one has actually seen it.

Until now.

NASA's IBEX (Interstellar Boundary Explorer) spacecraft has made the first all-sky maps of the heliosphere and the results have taken researchers by surprise. The maps are bisected by a bright, winding ribbon of unknown origin:



Above: IBEX's all-sky map of energetic neutral atom emission reveals a bright filament of unknown origin. V1 and V2 indicate the positions of the Voyager spacecraft. [more]

"This is a shocking new result," says IBEX principal investigator Dave McComas of the Southwest Research Institute. "We had no idea this ribbon existed--or what has created it. Our previous ideas about the outer heliosphere are going to have to be revised."


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Although the ribbon looks bright in the IBEX map, it does not glow in any conventional sense. The ribbon is not a source of light, but rather a source of particles--energetic neutral atoms or ENAs. IBEX's sensors can detect these particles, which are produced in the outer heliosphere where the solar wind begins to slow down and mix with interstellar matter from outside the solar system.
"This ribbon winds between the two Voyager spacecraft and was not observed by either of them," notes Eric Christian, IBEX deputy mission scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center. "It's like having two weather stations, but missing the big storm that runs between them."

Unlike the Voyager spacecraft, which have spent decades traveling to the edge of the solar system for in situ sampling, IBEX stayed closer to home. It is in Earth orbit, spinning around and collecting ENAs from all directions. This gives IBEX the unique "big picture" view necessary to discover something as vast as the ribbon.

The ribbon also has fine structure--small filaments of ENA emission no more than a few degrees wide: image. The fine structure is as much of a mystery as the ribbon itself, researchers say.

One important clue: The ribbon runs perpendicular to the direction of the galactic magnetic field just outside the heliosphere, as shown in the illustration at right.

"That cannot be a coincidence," says McComas. But what does it mean? No one knows. "We're missing some fundamental aspect of the interaction between the heliosphere and the rest of the galaxy. Theorists are working like crazy to figure this out."

Understanding the physics of the outer heliosphere is important because of the role it plays in shielding the solar system against cosmic rays. The heliosphere's size and shape are key factors in determining its shielding power and, thus, how many cosmic rays reach Earth. For the first time, IBEX is revealing how the heliosphere might respond when it bumps into interstellar clouds and galactic magnetic fields.

"IBEX is now making a second all-sky map, and we're eager to see if the ribbon is changing," says McComas. "Watching the ribbon evolve--if it is evolving--could yield more clues."

Stay tuned for updates.


Now for FLUFFY:

[link to www.space.com]

Fluffy Mystery at Edge of Solar System Solved
By SPACE.com Staff

posted: 23 December 2009

03:54 pm ET
Our solar system is passing through a cloud of interstellar material that shouldn't be there, astronomers say. And now the decades-old Voyager spacecraft have helped solved the mystery.

The cloud is called the "Local Fluff." It's about 30 light-years wide and holds a wispy mix of hydrogen and helium atoms, according to a NASA statement released today. Stars that exploded nearby, about 10 million years ago, should have crushed the Fluff or blown it away.

So what's holding the Fluff in place?

"Using data from Voyager, we have discovered a strong magnetic field just outside the solar system," explained Merav Opher, a NASA Heliophysics Guest Investigator from George Mason University. "This magnetic field holds the interstellar cloud together ["The Fluff"] and solves the long-standing puzzle of how it can exist at all."

The Fluff is much more strongly magnetized than anyone had previously suspected," Opher said. "This magnetic field can provide the extra pressure required to resist destruction."

Opher and colleagues detail the discovery in the Dec. 24 issue of the journal Nature.

NASA's two Voyager probes have been racing out of the solar system for more than 30 years. They are now beyond the orbit of Pluto and on the verge of entering interstellar space. During the 1990s, Voyager 1 became the farthest manmade object in space.

The Voyager craft, racing in opposite directions, have revealed among other things that the bubble around our solar system is squashed.

"The Voyagers are not actually inside the Local Fluff," Opher said. "But they are getting close and can sense what the cloud is like as they approach it."

The Fluff is held at bay just beyond the edge of the solar system by the sun's magnetic field, which is inflated by solar wind into a magnetic bubble more than 6.2 billion miles wide (10 billion km). Called the "heliosphere," this bubble protect the inner solar system from galactic cosmic rays and interstellar clouds. The two Voyagers are located in the outermost layer of the heliosphere, or "heliosheath," where the solar wind is slowed by the pressure of interstellar gas.

Voyager 1 entered the heliosheath in December 2004. Voyager 2 followed in August 2007. These crossings provided key data for the new study.

Other interstellar clouds might also be magnetized, Opher and colleagues figure. And we could eventually run into some of them.

"Their strong magnetic fields could compress the heliosphere even more than it is compressed now," according to NASA. "Additional compression could allow more cosmic rays to reach the inner solar system, possibly affecting terrestrial climate and the ability of astronauts to travel safely through space."


quote SickScent


Here's one dated more recently - 01/15/10.

[link to science.nasa.gov]


YES! This is a really good update.

This is where we can see that all these phenom might be one in the same, just different values in the size of the phenom, thus changing some of the details, but overall affect is exactly the same.

We can begin seeing the Serpent or Rope ideology in the ancients work trying to express what they knew!



The cloud is called the "Local Fluff."

The Fluff is ...strongly magnetized"

The magnetic field is not apparently OUTSIDE of the Fluff, but inside it as well.


Yes, and I read somewhere that the magnetics can be traced as heading back towards galactic center, perhaps emanating from galactic center. I have to find that article though to make sure I am not messing up.

This is important for my response I posted just above. (PAGE 62 of OTHER THREAD Thread: All I can say is, many of you are close !!!! (Page 62)



yes galactic center contains a singularity


But, is there a type of MASSIVE magnetic flux tube connecting the heliosphere to the singularity? (The Serpent)

Just like the magnetic flux tubes that connect the earth to the sun. This phenom happens maybe as much as twice a day and lets in more sun particles through the tube into earth's atmosphere.

What I am proposing is that what if this happens on a galactic scale as well. Through these recent articles, it looks like that is a strong possibility. So, when a massive type of 'magnetic flux tube' connects between our heliosphere and galactic center, the solar system is injected with massive amounts of energy from galactic center. The tube would allow this energy to bypass the heliosheath, just like the flux tubes allow the sun's energy to bypass our magnetosphere.

Thus all the connections made by the ancients of a 'Rope' or Serpent connecting us to Galactic Center. Some would call this a 'gate' or a 'portal'.

Damn, this is big stuff!

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