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Triskele
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UGH what do you do when you HATE your nephew but get left with him all the time??

My mom (his grandma) is his placement because his parents are shit. I don't have the heart to tell her that he can't come over and be around my kids. She's my best friend and we live right across the street from each other.

My nephew is 3 and my kids are 2.5 and 1.5 years old. I am a stay at home mom and my kids are very calm polite play nicely kinds of kids but he grew up in a daycare and is soooo violent and agressive and when he comes aroung my kids he does nothing but bite, hit, kick, push, take their toys away,spits, etc. I try to disicpline him when he is at my house with time outs, seperation, etc. The problem is...he does whatever he wants at my mom's house and when my brother takes him for visitations. They let him do all the above and they just sit there. I can't stand it. Because of his behavior...I noticed that after a while my kids start acting up. When I try to tell them that he needs to be taught not to do those things they just say "he's all boy"

That's BS because my 1.5 year old is a boy and is a great kid.

UGH...ok I am done venting.
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03/30/2010 11:24 AM
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just tell them you do not want him in your house, it's your house, you make the rules.
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your nephew is only 3. absent of some budding mental illness, he probably is just ill disciplined. play with the three of them, don't leave them to play alone. if you cant stop the negative behavior, then limit his time with you. but he may really need you in his life to help show him the way.
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Just explain you have to put the safety of your own children first so he can't come over anymore until he learns to behave. That's it. All ya gotta say. Leave it at that, and if he comes over, march him right back home as soon as you see him, EVERY time you see him. Everyone will get the idea.
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You discipline the shit out of him.
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That's easier said than done :( You're right though.

Like right now...I am babysitting him *again* and he has only been here for 15 minutes...he just out of nowhere walked up to my bookshelf and wiped ALL my books onto the floor then ran over and smacked my son in the head with a book. WTF?

It seems like anytime I am stupid enought to tell my mom I don't have plans then here comes the "oh do you think.....?"

I don't understand why she is going to adopt him if she feels like she can't take care of him on her own. I mean geesh when I decided to have kids of my own I knew the responsibility. When I go to the store...I load them up and take em with me, same for library, doctor office, post office, etc. I don't drop them off several days a week just to go out for an hour.

They tried to get me and my husband to take him when he was taken away from my brother but I said no because at the time I had a newborn and another on the way. They are still trying because they are starting to see that my mom can't handle it. I hold my ground and will still say no. I want 3 kids and I want my 3rd to be my own someday...is this selfish of me?
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03/30/2010 11:33 AM
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tie his ass up and put him in the closet.
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no it's not selfish of you.
can you make him pick up all the books he just dumped?
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seriously, you have to spank him. He has to be afraid of you. Otherwise, you have to refuse to watch him.
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You didn't include spankings in your list of disciplines. If you don't spank them kids tend to come out spoiled, bossy and out of control.

Spare the rod, spoil the child. Beat the kid. He needs it.
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LOL I have told my mom that I was willing to take him for a whole week for some "baby bootcamp" but believe me I try and try and try to teach him and it just does not work.

He is very confused because he goes from house to house to house all with different parenting styles then daycare. I feel so bad for him because I know it is not his fault just the product of a very broken home. His mom did lots of drugs while pregnant with him but the state took him away from my brother too because he stood by and did nothing.

They are about to run tests and send him to a pshychiatrist (sad at only 3 years old :() because he is no where near developmental stage for his age. No start on potty training, only says maybe 5 words, cannot count, identify colors, no ABC's, has NO social skills other than to fight and be aggressive.

Sometimes that's why I feel so guilty because...I have my 2 and I am here full time and people look at me and my kids and say things like I should be taking him in because it would make all the difference in his life. Deep down I know that. But my poor kids are scared of him.
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OK. He is three, that is his excuse.

How old are you and what is your excuse?

You are punishing this kid because he comes from a 'fucked up' set of parents and a Grandma who is being a grandma by letting things slide.

The kid needs extra attention, extra love and somebody in his life that will teach him something right and proper.

By denying him that little time he is under your influence you are dooming him.

So when he does grow up and becomes a monster you had a hand in that by DENYING him any opportunity to learn how to conduct himself correctly.

Yeah I know he's not your responsibility, and its not your job to train him. but if you are not going to do it who will in his life?

If you believe in a God, believe me you are being given the chance to help save this kid from himself later down the road. Don't blow it.

Even if you don't believe in a God... you are still the only one standing between him and total oblivion.
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No wonder the kid keeps acting up. I'd be acting the same if I knew no one wanted me around.
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not trying to sound like I am judging you, but shouldn't you be paying attention to your handfull of a nephew and not on GLP? Then maybe he wouldn't of just dumped the books. Distract,Distract,Distract.
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no it's not selfish of you.
can you make him pick up all the books he just dumped?
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LOL...no way...that kid knows nothing of what he just did wrong. When I take him over to the books and sit with him to try to make him pick them up he bites and kicks at me and runs away. It's a neverending battle but I do keep trying.
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not trying to sound like I am judging you, but shouldn't you be paying attention to your handfull of a nephew and not on GLP? Then maybe he wouldn't of just dumped the books. Distract,Distract,Distract.
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I know....but as frustrated as I am....I would rather be venting my anger out on here than on him!! My kids are very under control right now just playing quietly as usual. He is in the playroom wreaking havoc. I will just clean it up when he is gone. No use in trying to clean up while hes here.
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not trying to sound like I am judging you, but shouldn't you be paying attention to your handfull of a nephew and not on GLP? Then maybe he wouldn't of just dumped the books. Distract,Distract,Distract.




I know....but as frustrated as I am....I would rather be venting my anger out on here than on him!! My kids are very under control right now just playing quietly as usual. He is in the playroom wreaking havoc. I will just clean it up when he is gone. No use in trying to clean up while hes here.
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yeah but play with him while he is there. some kids definitely need more attention than others.
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Double the love you give him. All "deamons" big and small leave upon the continued sight and sense of love. hf You'll find he's a beautiful person who deserves a chance to get back to his loving nature.

Thank heavens he's not older. As a young one, he has less changes to make ASAP.


*edit to add*

Now is the time to teach him respect too. Show him how to clean up the mess.
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You might try some type of game that exhaust him. He sounds like he has some pent up energy he needs to release.
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seriously, you have to spank him. He has to be afraid of you. Otherwise, you have to refuse to watch him.
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LOL....my hubby is of the "spanking" route of discipline. I believe in it too in extreme circumstances. i.e kid keeps putting things in the electrical outlet after several times of being told no, running out in street after being told no, etc..

With my nephew being in the state obviously they have a "no corporal punishment" rule and we are not even allowed to really restrain him physically. Stupid in my opinion. I don't want to risk having my kids taken away over a small spanking because of him.

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I don't understand why she is going to adopt him if she feels like she can't take care of him on her own. I mean geesh when I decided to have kids of my own I knew the responsibility.
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While Grandma can not take care of him she most likely feels a duty to him because he is her grandson.

The screwed up thing here is that his ma and da are not being his parents, thus the rest of the family is being 'burdened' with the job of raising him.

I assure you as long as everyone treats him like a burden he will know it on a gut level and will 'act out'.

Of course you can just call Child Protective Services and have that brat yanked and thrown into foster care or juvenile hall or where ever they send unwanted children. That should fix his trolley and teach him a lesson or two, ya think?

This last falls right into the logic of what you propose.

Used to be that the whole family, aunts, uncles, grandma and grandpa all took a hand in raising a child. Now families have gone nuclear and it seems if they are not your fully linked blood that they are something to discard when they become a problem.
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You "HATE" your three year old nephew?


Grow the fuck up.


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Further this kid may have ADD or Autism or be hyperactive. Along with venting his own frustrations about the loss of his parents.

Sure he is three thus you assume he's all forgotten about mommy going away. He hasn't forgotten.

When I was three my parents divorced and my father got custody first. I still remember very clearly the night mamma was dragged off by the police because she wanted to see me. That was many decades ago.

I was three when it happened.

If he really is tearing up the place it sounds like frustration or anger.

If he is being dumped on other people by grandma during the day, after the loss of mommy he most likely thinks grandma is going away for good as well.

I mean hating the kid? Seriously?

Have some compassion for the child, who is still very much a baby.
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I don't understand why she is going to adopt him if she feels like she can't take care of him on her own. I mean geesh when I decided to have kids of my own I knew the responsibility.



While Grandma can not take care of him she most likely feels a duty to him because he is her grandson.

The screwed up thing here is that his ma and da are not being his parents, thus the rest of the family is being 'burdened' with the job of raising him.

I assure you as long as everyone treats him like a burden he will know it on a gut level and will 'act out'.

Of course you can just call Child Protective Services and have that brat yanked and thrown into foster care or juvenile hall or where ever they send unwanted children. That should fix his trolley and teach him a lesson or two, ya think?

This last falls right into the logic of what you propose.

Used to be that the whole family, aunts, uncles, grandma and grandpa all took a hand in raising a child. Now families have gone nuclear and it seems if they are not your fully linked blood that they are something to discard when they become a problem.
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^^THIS, is what I'm sayin.
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Further this kid may have ADD or Autism or be hyperactive. Along with venting his own frustrations about the loss of his parents.

Sure he is three thus you assume he's all forgotten about mommy going away. He hasn't forgotten.

When I was three my parents divorced and my father got custody first. I still remember very clearly the night mamma was dragged off by the police because she wanted to see me. That was many decades ago.

I was three when it happened.

If he really is tearing up the place it sounds like frustration or anger.

If he is being dumped on other people by grandma during the day, after the loss of mommy he most likely thinks grandma is going away for good as well.

I mean hating the kid? Seriously?

Have some compassion for the child, who is still very much a baby.
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+1 excellent
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You "HATE" your three year old nephew?


Grow the fuck up.


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Yes, it's unfortunate but I do. Nothing wrong with brutal honesty.

There are plehty of people in the world who love their own kids but can't stand the sight of other people's children. I like other people's kids as long as their own parents are taking care of them.

Or maybe I should just jump on the bandwagon right???? and expect everyone else to help raise my own???? Why be a parent or labeled as a caretaker if you are not prepared....so yes I do feel "burdened" I did not sign up for this responsibility. Hell, I waited until I was 26 and married a few years before making the decision to start my own family. Why should have to take care of other people's mistakes when I was so careful not to make my own???
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Also, in the beginning of your post, you stated "my kids are 2.5 and 1.5 years old. I am a stay at home mom and my kids are very calm polite play nicely"

that is nice. my warning before they are teenagers is start believing they are capable of bad behavior too. so often i hear, my kid would never do that. this is the oldest misconception in the book.
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You discipline the shit out of him.
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