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A top-ranking, highly decorated officer in the U.S. Army says he's now refusing all orders until President Barack Obama finally releases his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate to prove his eligibility to serve as commander in chief.

"I feel I have no choice but the distasteful one of inviting my own court martial," said Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, an active-duty flight surgeon charged with caring for Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey's pilots and air crew. "The Constitution matters. The truth matters."

"For the first time in all my years of service to our great nation, and at great peril to my career and future, I am choosing to disobey what I believe are illegal orders, including an order to deploy to Afghanistan for my second tour of duty there. I will disobey my orders to deploy because I and I believe all servicemen and women and the American people deserve the truth about President Obama's constitutional eligibility to the office of the presidency and the commander in chief.

"If he is ineligible, then my orders and indeed all orders are illegal because all orders have their origin with the commander in chief as handed down through the chain of command."

In his video message now posted on YouTube, the 18-year veteran personally pleads with the president to stop withholding the key document which would put to rest many of the doubts that continue to linger more than a year into Obama's term.

"President Obama, I ask you to respect and uphold the Constitution. Be transparent and show your honesty and integrity. Release your original, signed birth certificate, if you have one, thus proving your birth on American soil, and thus assure the American people that you are lawfully eligible to hold the office of the presidency and serve as commander in chief of the Armed Forces."




"Any reasonable person looking critically at the evidence currently in the public domain would have questions about President Obama's claim to be a natural-born citizen," Lakin continued, stating this "troubling" information has gone unanswered "because he refuses to release his original birth certificate dating from 1961 and bearing the signature of the doctor who delivered him. This burden of proof must fall upon the president."

TheBirthers.org website was thrilled with Lakin's refusal to obey orders, stating, "This is a game changer."

Lakin is the highest-ranking officer to go public over Obama's legitimacy and the first active-duty officer to do so. Others in the military who have challenged the president to no avail thus far include Army doctor Capt. Connie Rhodes and Army reservist Maj. Stefan Cook.

A website called SafeguardOurConstitution.com has posted a long list of Lakin's awards, including the Army Flight Surgeon's Badge, Combat Medical Badge, the Bronze Star Medal, the Meritorious Service Medal, the Army Commendation Medal with three Oak Leaf Clusters, the Army Achievement Medal with two Oak Leaf Clusters, the National Defense Service Medal with Bronze Service Star, the Armed Forced Expedition Medal, the Army Reserve Component Achievement Medal, the Army Service Ribbon, the Overseas Service Ribbon and the NATO service medal.

Reaction online reveals both support and dismissal of Lakin's effort:

* "I agree 100 percent with this Army surgeon. Every man has the right to know who he is fighting and maybe dying for. If not, why bother to try to have any laws at all? If your commander is a fraud, then everyone has the right to refuse any directives from him. A U.S. marshal should go to the White House and place the man under arrest until proof of his legitimacy can be proven without a doubt. I believe the whole world has been taken in by this imposter. Without all the arrangements to control the media and the huge amounts of money spent to hide and block information about his roots, it is obvious to even an idiot that something is wrong with this picture." (Ken E. Huffaker)

* "I believe they call that insubordination. It's my hope that he is relieved of duty, stripped of his rank and benefits and tossed in prison where he belongs for witholding treatment to wounded soldiers in a time of war. I would have more respect for him if he had moral objections to the wars, but no, he wants to play the right-wing reindeer games instead. I'm a veteran too, and when I was in, if you disobeyed a lawful order, you faced legal repurcussions. ... Face facts, you have a black president." (Kenneth Browne)

* "Throw the insubordinate officer out of the Army. If he can't take orders let him leave. What an arrogant fool." (G. Busch)

* "This issue is critical in my view. This is particularly true for a U.S. president who states his desire and in fact his intention to 'transform' America. Americans need to know exactly who and what it is that wants to transform this country. Equally critical is adherance to the United States Constitution. There was/is an oath to that document. It means something to Americans. Sweeping this under the rug isn't going to work." (Valerie Eggers)

* "Everyone must remember it is not just about the birth certificate. Presidential eligibility is not just to be a 'U.S. citizen,' it is to be a 'natural-born' citizen. His father was Kenyan, and Obama has admitted his own British/dual citizenship at birth. He does not have the 'pure' natural-born type of citizenship required for the presidency. Don't focus only on the birth certificate. Even if he shows it, the fight is not over. Lt. Col. Lakin needs to understand this." (Sallyven)

Just this week, Obama himself made note of the eligibility issue, saying the tea-party movement is based on those who doubt his legitimacy.

Asked on NBC's "Today" show about the tea-party opposition to his plans in Washington, Obama said, "I think that it is still a loose amalgam of forces. There is a part of the tea-party movement that actually did exist before I was elected. We saw some of it leading up to my election.

"There are some folks who just aren't sure I was born in the United States, whether I was a socialist," he said.

"That's segment of it which I think is just dug in ideologically. That strain has existed in American politics for a long time," he said.

Obama's actual response to those who question his eligibility to be president under the Constitution's requirement that the U.S. president be a "natural born citizen" has been to dispatch both private and tax-funded attorneys to prevent anyone from gaining access to his documentation.

Besides Obama's actual birth documentation, the still-concealed documentation for him includes kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

WND has reported on a multitude of cases that have been brought over the issue of Obama's eligibility. Some are by critics who have doubts about whether he was born in Hawaii in 1961 as he has written, and others are from those who question whether the framers of the Constitution specifically excluded dual citizens Obama's father was a subject of the British crown at Obama's birth from being eligible for the office.

The issue has prompted a number of state legislatures to work on proposals that would require presidential candidates to submit proof of their eligibility. And a similar proposal has been introduced in Congress by Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla.

The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

However, none of the cases filed to date has been successful in reaching the plateau of legal discovery, so that information about Obama's birth could be obtained.

The White House has not replied to numerous requests for comment.

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He forgot to stress that he has no intention of committing suicide.

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I let my driver's license expire in 2003 and had to jump through hoops to get it back.

They required a birth certificate. Couldn't find it, had to buy replacement and wait 10 days for it to arrive before they would give me my license back.

But in the great country, a man can hold the presidential office without one, and tapdance around the issue through the entire term.

But a regular guy like me? You better damn well have those papers...

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If the US Military rallys to this man, which I think many will, we could see another revolution. It would happen quite fast too.
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Great report.
The man has enough awards to be called an American Hero.
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Great report.
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UPDATE
Apologies.... Must declare ALL US military need be
called American Hero. Male and Female.
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Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral Top doctor refuses orders, tells Obama to show birth certificate 'if you have 1'
I let my driver's license expire in 2003 and had to jump through hoops to get it back.

They required a birth certificate. Couldn't find it, had to buy replacement and wait 10 days for it to arrive before they would give me my license back.

But in the great country, a man can hold the presidential office without one, and tapdance around the issue through the entire term.

But a regular guy like me? You better damn well have those papers...

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Absolutely. Barry has been given a free pass, just like his days at "Columbia". This joker has to be removed.
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please someone ask that person,

why didnt he refuse orders when supreme court halted a legal recount and handed the victory to president bush in the election of his first term.
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I've never bothered responding to one of these posts before because I considered it too silly. Don't you think the commander in chief aka the new messiah, a man who makes jesus look like a putz by comparisson, could make a birth certificate if he wanted. Duh! The governor of Hawaii produced one but if they wanted couldn't they have some master counterfeiter fake one up if need be? Or did the birthers not consider this obvious fact?
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this subject was pinned all day yesterday and should be again today

lively discussion at this thread

Thread: Army Lt. Col. Risks Court Martial Questioning Whether Obama is a Natural Born Citizen
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please someone ask that person,

why didnt he refuse orders when supreme court halted a legal recount and handed the victory to president bush in the election of his first term.
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If the US Military rallys to this man, which I think many will, we could see another revolution. It would happen quite fast too.
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That is the only possible positive outcome of this man's actions. It is not the courts, nor the media, nor the public, but the military that hold the power to bring this issue to resolution.
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I've never bothered responding to one of these posts before because I considered it too silly. Don't you think the commander in chief aka the new messiah, a man who makes jesus look like a putz by comparisson, could make a birth certificate if he wanted. Duh! The governor of Hawaii produced one but if they wanted couldn't they have some master counterfeiter fake one up if need be? Or did the birthers not consider this obvious fact?
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The question is why did not they up to now, and also there are other things like dual citizenship at birth,all of his educational records etc. I just wonder what is the game here...Elites who put him in power know his back ground, they knew from the beginning that the guy is not eligible. Was it done to make him easily replaceable if it's needed? Or to use his shady past to always keep him under control? We can only wonder...
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Personally I think it is the war between good and evil.

Evil by the rules of the game must inform you of intent, you have to discern the rest. Look at the names Madoff, or Dr Fukuda (in charge of swine flu at the world health organization). The names Obama/Osama. Everything has a purpose, the question is whether you look deeper you see a motive and an action.

Not releasing the Birth Certificate has a purpose and sometimes it is just to awaken your intuitive abilities. Obama has proven through his actions he isn't to be trusted although his words manipulate the mind. This man is good at projecting his thoughts but his actions speak volumnes.
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Personally I think it is the war between good and evil.

Evil by the rules of the game must inform you of intent, you have to discern the rest. Look at the names Madoff, or Dr Fukuda (in charge of swine flu at the world health organization). The names Obama/Osama. Everything has a purpose, the question is whether you look deeper you see a motive and an action.

Not releasing the Birth Certificate has a purpose and sometimes it is just to awaken your intuitive abilities. Obama has proven through his actions he isn't to be trusted although his words manipulate the mind. This man is good at projecting his thoughts but his actions speak volumnes.
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