Discovery that quasars don't show time dilation mystifies astronomers | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 940835 ![]() 04/12/2010 03:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah, thanks! Must I add just for the record: The big bang theory is bunk, time as most people understand it does not exist. All time is now. There is no future or past, those are illusions your brain creates to make sense of your environment. |
Funney User ID: 78211 ![]() 04/12/2010 04:12 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | very nice finally the old & big & bang theory will be on its knees ![]() "exponencially kneeling down" Last Edited by Funney on 04/12/2010 05:02 AM moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds we make errors in between perception->relation->behaviour |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 745240 ![]() 04/12/2010 05:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The phenomenon of time dilation is a strange yet experimentally confirmed effect of relativity theory. One of its implications is that events occurring in distant parts of the universe should appear to occur more slowly than events located closer to us. For example, when observing supernovae, scientists have found that distant explosions seem to fade more slowly than the quickly-fading nearby supernovae. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 937458The effect can be explained because (1) the speed of light is a constant (independent of how fast a light source is moving toward or away from an observer) and (2) the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate, which causes light from distant objects to redshift (i.e. the wavelengths to become longer) in relation to how far away the objects are from observers on Earth. In other words, as space expands, the interval between light pulses also lengthens. Since expansion occurs throughout the universe, it seems that time dilation should be a property of the universe that holds true everywhere, regardless of the specific object or event being observed. However, a new study has found that this doesn’t seem to be the case - quasars, it seems, give off light pulses at the same rate no matter their distance from the Earth, without a hint of time dilation. Then, logically, the experimental confirmation of time dilation is erroneous, because either the speed of light is not constant or the unvierse is not expanding at an accelerating rate. Take your pick. ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 894706 ![]() 04/12/2010 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then, logically, the experimental confirmation of time dilation is erroneous, because either the speed of light is not constant or the unvierse is not expanding at an accelerating rate. Take your pick. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 745240i'd take both ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 940878 ![]() 04/12/2010 05:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah, thanks! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 940835Must I add just for the record: The big bang theory is bunk, time as most people understand it does not exist. All time is now. There is no future or past, those are illusions your brain creates to make sense of your environment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 940878 ![]() 04/12/2010 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah, thanks! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 940878Must I add just for the record: The big bang theory is bunk, time as most people understand it does not exist. All time is now. There is no future or past, those are illusions your brain creates to make sense of your environment. That's an idea that is striking me lately. Billions of years are just thrown about so casually but when you really think about it, it's crazy. Perhaps there are 'different' times that occasionally overlap. Perhaps we all move about the eather constantly repeating. Something doesn't add up and as I say repeatedly, appreciate science for what it is and the discoveries it makes but please people, don't base your world view on it. It could all come tumbling down or lead you astray |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 926385 ![]() 04/12/2010 05:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | very nice Quoting: Funneyfinally the old & big & bang theory will be on its knees ![]() "exponencially kneeling down" And it will be replaced by what? Believing a book written by who knows, which doesn't even say exactly old the Earth is, or how it was created? ![]() |
Funney User ID: 78211 ![]() 04/12/2010 06:50 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | very nice Quoting: Anonymous Coward 926385finally the old & big & bang theory will be on its knees ![]() "exponencially kneeling down" And it will be replaced by what? Believing a book written by who knows, which doesn't even say exactly old the Earth is, or how it was created? ![]() i never said i believe in something i read in a book :) all sciences are materialzed guesses important for those using it (growing with, on it and thanks to it) how can we, sensualy limited observers from 1 instance (closed system of actions/reactions in time) understand endless concept in the flow of realities ? all are and will be only guesses and our projections never the real in this form only translation! Last Edited by Funney on 04/12/2010 06:50 AM moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds we make errors in between perception->relation->behaviour |
Funney User ID: 78211 ![]() 04/12/2010 06:54 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for some it seems like in a prison [link to funney.cz] moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds we make errors in between perception->relation->behaviour |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 871118 ![]() 04/12/2010 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then, logically, the experimental confirmation of time dilation is erroneous, because either the speed of light is not constant or the unvierse is not expanding at an accelerating rate. Take your pick. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 745240The part they left out with the speed of light thing is that it IS constant, in a vacuum (or would appear constant if measured in a same state atmosphere). The crap in between us and the stars is what is impacting the speed of the light reaching us - not just the dust/dark matter, but the magnetic fields as well. The second problem with the whole "expanding universe" thing is that according the the laws of motion, the universe cannot expand at a faster rate without an outside force acting on it. When they mess up these two points, well, you get a false god named S. Hawking. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1446663 ![]() 06/28/2011 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah, thanks! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 940835Must I add just for the record: The big bang theory is bunk, time as most people understand it does not exist. All time is now. There is no future or past, those are illusions your brain creates to make sense of your environment. I know this too. Surprising there are others that know this. |