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[link to www.cnsnews.com]

Fair warning, when going to that link, all I get is server busy........

Please also note, this was found on Drudge front page...


"CNSNews.com
Health Law Bans New Doctor-Owned Hospitals, Blocks Expansion of Existing Ones
Monday, April 12, 2010
By Fred Lucas, Staff Writer

(CNSNews.com) – The new health care overhaul law – that promised increased access and efficiency in health care – will prevent doctor-owned hospitals from adding more rooms and more beds.

These hospitals are advertised as less bureaucratic and more focused on doctor-patient decision making. However, larger corporate hospitals say doctor-owned facilities discriminate in favor of high-income patients and refer business to themselves.

The new rules single out physician-owned hospitals, making new physician-owned projects ineligible to receive payments for Medicare and Medicaid patients.

Existing doctor-owned hospitals will be grandfathered in to get government funds for patients but must seek permission from the Department of Health and Human Services to expand.

The get the department’s permission, a doctor-owned hospital must be in a county where population growth is 150 percent of the population growth of the state in the last five years; impatient admissions must be equal to all hospitals located in the county; the bed occupancy rate must not be greater than the state average, and it must be located in a state where hospital bed capacity is less than the national average.

These rules are under Title VI, Section 6001 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The provision is titled “Physician Ownership and Other Transparency – Limitations on Medicare Exceptions to the Prohibition on Certain Physician Referral for Hospitals.”

More than 60 doctor-owned hospitals across the country that were in the development stage will be canceled, said Molly Sandvig, executive director of Physician Hospitals of America (PHA).

“That’s a lot of access to communities that will be denied,” Sandvig told CNSNews.com. “The existing hospitals are greatly affected. They can’t grow. They can’t add beds. They can’t add rooms. Basically, it stifles their ability to change and meet market needs. This is really an unfortunate thing as well, because we are talking about some of the best hospitals in the country.”

The organization says physician-owned hospitals have higher patient satisfaction, greater control over medical decisions for patients and doctor, better quality care and lower costs. Further, physician-owned hospitals have an average 4-1 patient-to-nurse ratio, compared to the national average of 8-1 for general hospitals.

Further, these 260 doctor-owned hospitals in 38 states provide 55,000 jobs, $2.4 billion in payroll and pay $509 million in federal taxes, according to the PHA.

In one ironic aspect, President Barack Obama’s two largest legislative achievements clashed. The Hammond Community Hospital in North Hammond, Ind., got $7 million in bond money from the federal stimulus act in 2009. It will likely be scrapped because of the new rules on physician-owned hospitals, according to the Post-Tribune newspaper in Merrillville, Ind.

These hospitals have long been a target of the American Hospital Association, which represents corporate-owned hospitals as well as non-profit hospitals.

An AHA study from 2008 says that physician-owned hospitals “lessen patient access to emergency and trauma case;” “damage the financial health of full-service hospitals and lead to cutbacks in service;” “are not more efficient than full service community hospitals;” “use physician-owners to steer patients;” “cherry pick the most profitable patients;” and “provide limited or no emergency services.”

Meanwhile, one AHA fact sheet asserts that physician-owned orthopedic and surgical hospitals costs are 20 percent to 30 percent higher than average hospitals. Further, these hospitals just lead to higher profits for doctors, the AHA asserts.

“We don’t cherry pick patients, period, end of story. We take patients based on their need for care, not on their ability to pay,” Sandvig said. “It [the health care reform] puts control outside the hand of physicians and patients and into bureaucrats’ hands really.

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is one of many organizations suing to have the law declared unconstitutional on the grounds that the federal government cannot compel someone to buy a product.

While the provision on physician hospitals is not part of the lawsuit, it will affect it, Dr. said Jane Orient, AAPS executive director.

“If the law is declared unconstitutional, then the prohibition is part of the bill,” Orient told CNSNews.com. “There are vested interests in getting rid of physician-owned hospitals because they do a better job and are more affordable.”

The provision in the legislation and efforts opposing these hospitals can be simply explained from Sandvig’s view.

“It’s anti-competitive. I think it’s pretty clear,” Sandvig said. “We’re a model that makes sense that’s affecting innovation. We’re trying to do something better than it has been done. Anytime you do that, there’s going to be a clash between the existing and the new. Unfortunately, it’s a real David and Goliath battle.”

CNSNews.com - Health Law Bans New Doctor-Owned Hospitals, Blocks Expansion of Existing Ones"
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lmao Fucking owned
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Why is that funny?
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Amazing that you don't see this on the Chancellery News Network !
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How's that "hope and change" workin' out for ya now Obamites?
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From what I understand and I may be wrong....

The issue is Obama care law does "NOT" allow doctors to own a hospital.

Those 60 were going to be doctor owned.

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lmao Fucking owned

Why is that funny?
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Translation ---> LESS HEALTH CARE
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Translation ---> LESS HEALTH CARE
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That seems quite drastic just because the system of ownership is changed. Seems to me that there will be some workaround figured out and they will be owners in some way any way. Ya know we are talking Government money here, everyone will be at the trough to get their share.
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From what I understand and I may be wrong....

The issue is Obama care law does "NOT" allow doctors to own a hospital.

Those 60 were going to be doctor owned.

:5:
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Yep. Marxist take a dim view of folks owning stuff.
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lmao Fucking owned

Why is that funny?
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Because I don't give a shit anymore. The left thinks they know everything, and now they'll find out what they really know....nothing.

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What a country. We have the most doctors, the costliest medicines, TV shouting the effects on pills to make you sleep, wake you up to face a day with no anxiety. Yet we are a bunch of sickly, overweight, diabetic folks with COPD.
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lmao Fucking owned

Why is that funny?
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School's out for the summer
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There's at least one Doctor's Hospital in my town. I should have went there last time.
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lmao Fucking owned

Why is that funny?


Because I don't give a shit anymore. The left thinks they know everything, and now they'll find out what they really know....nothing.

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I think most people can agree with that.
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Why is that funny?

School's out for the summer
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Nope. I can't wait until schools out for the summer. I get some of my awesome techs back for a short while.

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This is soooo obvious, your death camps are coming, hospitals run by the military, everything is going to be run by the military, got your DDOOOOMMM tards!
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This is soooo obvious, your death camps are coming, hospitals run by the military, everything is going to be run by the military, got your DDOOOOMMM tards!
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(offers you his sweaty balls for you own personal tea-bag) It is good for the skin, especially around your lips.
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This is soooo obvious, your death camps are coming, hospitals run by the military, everything is going to be run by the military, got your DDOOOOMMM tards!
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Dictatorships do often have the military run the hospitals. Also we can factor the fascist Washington has always ran the hospitals via FDA big pharx and Rockefeller founded med schools. The doctors and hospital admin belong to Masonic societies and are down with population eugenics injecting all the babies with toxic mercury et al. That's only the beginning of their soon to be mandatory deathcare.

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How's that "hope and change" workin' out for ya now Obamites?
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he's too conservative, we dont like him anymore.
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nice work op

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This is soooo obvious, your death camps are coming, hospitals run by the military, everything is going to be run by the military, got your DDOOOOMMM tards!

(offers you his sweaty balls for you own personal tea-bag) It is good for the skin, especially around your lips.
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ohno

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[link to www.cnsnews.com]

Fair warning, when going to that link, all I get is server busy........

Please also note, this was found on Drudge front page...


"CNSNews.com
Health Law Bans New Doctor-Owned Hospitals, Blocks Expansion of Existing Ones
Monday, April 12, 2010
By Fred Lucas, Staff Writer

(CNSNews.com) – The new health care overhaul law – that promised increased access and efficiency in health care – will prevent doctor-owned hospitals from adding more rooms and more beds.

These hospitals are advertised as less bureaucratic and more focused on doctor-patient decision making. However, larger corporate hospitals say doctor-owned facilities discriminate in favor of high-income patients and refer business to themselves.

The new rules single out physician-owned hospitals, making new physician-owned projects ineligible to receive payments for Medicare and Medicaid patients.

Existing doctor-owned hospitals will be grandfathered in to get government funds for patients but must seek permission from the Department of Health and Human Services to expand.

The get the department’s permission, a doctor-owned hospital must be in a county where population growth is 150 percent of the population growth of the state in the last five years; impatient admissions must be equal to all hospitals located in the county; the bed occupancy rate must not be greater than the state average, and it must be located in a state where hospital bed capacity is less than the national average.

These rules are under Title VI, Section 6001 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The provision is titled “Physician Ownership and Other Transparency – Limitations on Medicare Exceptions to the Prohibition on Certain Physician Referral for Hospitals.”

More than 60 doctor-owned hospitals across the country that were in the development stage will be canceled, said Molly Sandvig, executive director of Physician Hospitals of America (PHA).

“That’s a lot of access to communities that will be denied,” Sandvig told CNSNews.com. “The existing hospitals are greatly affected. They can’t grow. They can’t add beds. They can’t add rooms. Basically, it stifles their ability to change and meet market needs. This is really an unfortunate thing as well, because we are talking about some of the best hospitals in the country.”

The organization says physician-owned hospitals have higher patient satisfaction, greater control over medical decisions for patients and doctor, better quality care and lower costs. Further, physician-owned hospitals have an average 4-1 patient-to-nurse ratio, compared to the national average of 8-1 for general hospitals.

Further, these 260 doctor-owned hospitals in 38 states provide 55,000 jobs, $2.4 billion in payroll and pay $509 million in federal taxes, according to the PHA.

In one ironic aspect, President Barack Obama’s two largest legislative achievements clashed. The Hammond Community Hospital in North Hammond, Ind., got $7 million in bond money from the federal stimulus act in 2009. It will likely be scrapped because of the new rules on physician-owned hospitals, according to the Post-Tribune newspaper in Merrillville, Ind.

These hospitals have long been a target of the American Hospital Association, which represents corporate-owned hospitals as well as non-profit hospitals.

An AHA study from 2008 says that physician-owned hospitals “lessen patient access to emergency and trauma case;” “damage the financial health of full-service hospitals and lead to cutbacks in service;” “are not more efficient than full service community hospitals;” “use physician-owners to steer patients;” “cherry pick the most profitable patients;” and “provide limited or no emergency services.”

Meanwhile, one AHA fact sheet asserts that physician-owned orthopedic and surgical hospitals costs are 20 percent to 30 percent higher than average hospitals. Further, these hospitals just lead to higher profits for doctors, the AHA asserts.

“We don’t cherry pick patients, period, end of story. We take patients based on their need for care, not on their ability to pay,” Sandvig said. “It [the health care reform] puts control outside the hand of physicians and patients and into bureaucrats’ hands really.

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is one of many organizations suing to have the law declared unconstitutional on the grounds that the federal government cannot compel someone to buy a product.

While the provision on physician hospitals is not part of the lawsuit, it will affect it, Dr. said Jane Orient, AAPS executive director.

“If the law is declared unconstitutional, then the prohibition is part of the bill,” Orient told CNSNews.com. “There are vested interests in getting rid of physician-owned hospitals because they do a better job and are more affordable.”

The provision in the legislation and efforts opposing these hospitals can be simply explained from Sandvig’s view.

“It’s anti-competitive. I think it’s pretty clear,” Sandvig said. “We’re a model that makes sense that’s affecting innovation. We’re trying to do something better than it has been done. Anytime you do that, there’s going to be a clash between the existing and the new. Unfortunately, it’s a real David and Goliath battle.”

CNSNews.com - Health Law Bans New Doctor-Owned Hospitals, Blocks Expansion of Existing Ones"
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Yeah! No more subsidizing hospitals for the wealthy with public funds!

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I seriously doubt of any doctor owned hospitals or surgical centers that treat medicare and medicaid anyways, its kinda silly

Dr.'s hospitals are there for one reason, to cut the red tape out that the hospital would charge them/their patient and keep a percentage for themselves.

You aren't going to have that in a medicare / medicaid situation, the problem is finding doctors who will work on theose people now, because of the pay cuts they have recieved
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From what I understand and I may be wrong....

The issue is Obama care law does "NOT" allow doctors to own a hospital.

Those 60 were going to be doctor owned.

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Well of course.

Because,as we all know, doctors know nothing about how to run hospitals.

So from now on, all hospitals will be owned by the government.

Because, as we all also know, the government is highly competent and efficient when it comes to running large, complex systems it knows absolutely nothing about.
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Woo hoo, I can't wait until I have to wait six months to get an MRI..........It's gonna be awesome.....
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Does this doctor count?
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so let me get this right
private industry = do no wrong, gub-a-mint bad, and soshulism and stuff?
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Did you ever wonder why such an alarmingly high percentage of Americans are obese, diabetic, depressed and suffering from cancer, heart disease, kidney disorders and skin problems? Now consider the fact that Americans pay more per capita for health care than any other nation in the world. Americans pay the highest prices, by far, for medications, medical imaging scans, blood work, surgeries, chemotherapy and hospital stays. And yet what does America have to show for it? The most universally diseased population in the world -- and a nation on the verge of bankruptcy caused in part by mainstream medicine.

But this isn't a slam on America itself: It's an indictment of the mainstream medical system that has been running a monopoly medical racket in America for roughly the last hundred years. Under the system of monopolistic medical practices enforced by the FDA, AMA, FTC and state medical boards, "mainstream medicine" has taken a nation that was once relatively healthy and turned it into a disease dystopia where patients are actually taught that nutrition doesn't work and that they must submit to patented chemicals in order to be "normal" or healthy.

Mainstream medicine has reached such a level of insanity that its corporations now claim intellectual ownership over nearly 20 percent of the human genome. This has all been done to create a corporate monopoly over human genes in the same way that mainstream medicine has already created an FDA-enforced monopoly over isolated chemicals -- many of which were ripped off from nature.

At the same time that mainstream medicine has created for itself an oppressively-enforced monopoly over medical treatments, it has brought America to the brink of bankruptcy while delivering only pain, suffering and pharmaceutical addiction to the masses. Mainstream medicine says poison is medicine (chemotherapy) while teaching people that nutrition is useless.

This is the system of medicine that dismisses the value of sunlight, colon cleansing, acupuncture and juice cleansing, but it firmly believes in toxic vaccines, chemotherapy, cancer-causing mammograms and dispensing a lifetime of poisonous medications to little babies who are now being diagnosed with depression before they're even old enough to speak!

And yet -- stunningly -- the promoters and pushers of mainstream medicine claim it is a huge success! Remarkably, they even claim it is the only system of medicine in the entire world that works.

Yep, out of all the hundreds of other systems of medicine practiced around the world -- most of which are based on medicinal herbs and natural remedies, by the way -- the arrogant, ignorant promoters of mainstream medicine have no shame standing in a room of chemo patients (most of whom are dying from the chemotherapy) and proclaiming, "This is the ONLY system of medicine in the entire world that has any merit whatsoever!"

And, yes, they actually believe that. Mainstream medicine may not be good at promoting health, but it is very, very good at brainwashing otherwise intelligent people into believing that the Emperor is, indeed, wearing glorious flowing robes even as he walks down the street butt naked.

Ten realizations about "mainstream medicine"

When it comes to whether mainstream medicine really works, here are ten important "reality check" realizations to keep in mind:

#1) If mainstream medicine really worked, then drug companies wouldn't have to commit scientific fraud to fake their clinical trials, would they?

#2) If mainstream medicine really worked, then doctors, drugs companies and the FDA wouldn't be afraid of competition from nutritional supplements and natural remedies, and they wouldn't keep trying to censor or outlaw those natural remedies.

#3) If mainstream medicine really worked, drug companies would gladly test their drugs side-by-side with nutritional remedies to see what works best.

#4) If mainstream medicine really worked, health insurance costs would be extremely low. The only reason health insurance costs so much is because mainstream medicine doesn't cure anybody, and patients stay sick, which costs more money to keep treating!

#5) If mainstream medicine really worked, then all the other countries in the world would be looking at the U.S. health care system and saying, "Wow, we want THAT!"

#6) If mainstream medicine really worked, drug companies would be out of business because virtually everybody would be healthy and therefore not need drugs on an ongoing basis.

#7) If mainstream medicine really worked, doctors would largely put themselves out of business by teaching patients how to take care of their own health.

#8) If mainstream medicine really worked, drug companies like Johnson & Johnson wouldn't have to pay kickbacks (bribes) to nursing homes to entice them to push more of their drugs onto helpless senior citizens.

#9) If mainstream medicine really worked, the treatment of teenagers with chemotherapy wouldn't have to be enforced by court order with the threat of arrest and imprisonment of the parents (as happens in the U.S. today).

#10) If mainstream medicine really worked, drug companies wouldn't need to advertise on television to persuade people to take drugs they don't need.

Now, to hear mainstream medicine pushers say it, the only reason Americans are so sick and diseased right now is because -- get this -- not enough people are taking enough medications!

Yes... if they could only convince more parents to drug more babies and toddlers; or if they could get more teens on four, five or six drugs at once; or if they could convince nursing homes to pop a dozen different meds into the mouths of senior citizens then we'd all be healthier!

America, you see, suffers from a medication deficiency. That's the line of mainstream medicine: More meds = less disease. And now, they're trying to convince everyone that even healthy people now need meds (statin drugs) even if they show no symptoms of disease.

So now -- get this -- being healthy is no longer enough to avoid medications! We're ALL supposed to be medicated, whether we're healthy or not.

Mainstream medicine, you see, isn't satisfied to just treat sick people with its medications, radiation machines and surgical procedures: It wants to put all the healthy people on pills, too.

And what will be the result of all this? Imagine in your own mind, for a moment: What will be the result if, say, Americans start taking twice as much medication as they do right now. Will Americans be healthier?

Of course not. They will be more diseased. More medicated and chemically contaminated. The fish downstream will be even more polluted with pharmaceutical runoff and the bio sludge human waste "compost" products now being put on farms will be even more heavily saturated with medication chemicals.

Will that create health for America? Of course not. Mainstream medicine does not work. And pushing mainstream medicine onto more people will only cause more sickness, more suffering and more bankruptcies across American households.

It will, however, accomplish one very important thing: The obscene financial enrichment of a few powerful corporations like Pfizer, Merck, Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca.

And that, my friends, is the entire point of mainstream medicine: To mainline the profits for Big Pharma, sideline the legitimate health problems of the American people, and streamline the criminal soaking of the rich, the poor and the recently-insured in order to turn sickness into profit.

That's mainstream medicine for you. I'm sure glad I don't use it.
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