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OCEAN FLOOR RISING BY 13 FEET PER DAY HERE

 
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I know of at least 3 people from Australia who have tried contacting the BOM on this issue. Phone, email, snail mail. Funny how they respond to someone who doesn't even live in this country (unless you're on a proxy).
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3 buoys in event mode all around Australian/pacific plate, Australian plate is pushing hard and its ready to pop. rex
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What does that mean,will it effect New Zealand?
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This earth is filled with volcanic rivers that we have not even found yet. She is cooking from below.
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This earth is filled with volcanic rivers that we have not even found yet. She is cooking from below.
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Can Volcanoes cause a ELE?
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Soooo, by my rough calculations, the sea floor has now risen by more than 1300 feet....I think some one would have got some serious data by now.
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This earth is filled with volcanic rivers that we have not even found yet. She is cooking from below.

Can Volcanoes cause a ELE?
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oh yeah, they suuure can. yellowstone..tic tok tic tok..
so, as below, as above.
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3 buoys in event mode all around Australian/pacific plate, Australian plate is pushing hard and its ready to pop. rex


What does that mean,will it effect New Zealand?
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The buoys do not measure earthquakes, they measure pressure of the water column above the sensor. It isn't the depth of the water column but a certain type of water pressure change that triggers the event mode. You also need to keep in mind that these are automated systems. No complex computer algorithm will ever be 100% correct. There will be false alarms. They warn on the NBDC site that it takes expert analysis to interpret the event mode. All the event mode is saying is "hey look at me I may have detected something but a person needs to say if it is real". The algorithm is described here
[link to www.ndbc.noaa.gov]
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Soooo, by my rough calculations, the sea floor has now risen by more than 1300 feet....I think some one would have got some serious data by now.
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If you want to believe the sensor it is now 3000 meters but without a single ash cloud or earthquake at that location.
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It took the deaths of over 216,000 people to get something done.

Here is the way it is supposed to work.

[link to www.ema.gov.au]

(note the warning timeframes. Our warning buoys are less than one hours tsunami travel time from the Australian coast!)


But here is how it really went. [link to www.usatoday.com]


Report Exerts-

“But the SMS messages failed to reach the five directors or were delayed for hours, said Dr. Cherdsak Virapat, the centre’s chief for International Coordination”.

“In Melbourne, Australia, Chris Ryan of the National Meteorological and Oceanographic Centre said that except for some wrong numbers and the real earthquakes, "it all seems to have gone as planned."”



Move now to 2010-07-28

If the system is faulty “as claimed” then why after three months do we still have an inapt tsunami warning system still in place at the cost of $68.9 million dollars ?

Why he couldn’t get the “numbers right” in the first drill in 41 years!

Maybe Chris Ryan of the National Meteorological and Oceanographic Centre can answer your questions.

His contact Tsunami Advisor(s). ChrisRyan
Responsible Organization:
Head, National Meteorological and Oceanographic Centre, Bureau of Meteorology
Postal Address: GPO Box 1289, Melbourne, Vic. 3001, AUSTRALIA
E-mail Address: [email protected]

(Remember treat him with the respect of a civil servant.)

If you are dissatisfied with the response go public.

Remember we are in the middle of Federal election complaining. The media be it even a local radio stations are crying for political footballs to kick around. Or contact your local shadow/federal member.

Pardon the pun but lets get to the bottom of this buoy system and if its broken lets get it fixed without further delay.

OP
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In relation to the latest events.

Event tsunami warning [link to www.ndbc.noaa.gov]


Readers note;

In the Southern Hemisphere there was an identical lunar cycle for both June 2010 and for July 2010.
with the full moon being on the 26th. of June and July 2010.

There is no a weather anomalies causing atmospheric changes on the sea surface heights due to atmospheric pressure.


In reference to

Station 51426 400NM Southeast of Tonga
22.993 S 168.098 W (22°59'36" S 168°5'53" W)

[link to www.ndbc.noaa.gov]

Enter data search for the period of June 21st to June 28th 2010.

Note the column height in meters is in the lowest range of 5680 meters during tidal fluctuations.

Then Enter data search for the period of July 21st to July 28th 2010.

Note the column height in meters is in the lowest range of 5686 meters during tidal fluctuations.

One would assume the seafloor here has subsided here by 18 feet in four weeks!


In reference to

Station 51425 - 370 NM NW of Apia
9.493 S 176.245 W (9°29'36" S 176°14'42" W)

[link to www.ndbc.noaa.gov]


Enter data search for the period of June 21st to June 28th 2010.

Note the column height in meters is in the lowest range of 4962 meters during tidal fluctuations.

Then Enter data search for the period of July 21st to July 28th 2010.

Note the column height in meters is in the lowest range of 4977 meters during tidal fluctuations.

One would assume the seafloor here has risen here by 45 feet in four weeks!




With the same lunar cycles over both months I hope this gives you a clear indication of tremendous earth changes taking place now. We have witnessed the tip of South America move 12 feet in one seismic event so this shouldn’t come as a surprise to you given the tectonic events in this part of the world as of late.

OP


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Residents of the Carteret Islands off Papua New Guinea have been pleading for help from the international community since their homes began sinking into the ocean. The Carteret Islands, which have been described as the world's first climate change islands, are slowly disappearing under the Pacific Ocean. Because rising water has been flooding crops and spoiling water supplies, islanders will soon be turned into refugees, with some already making for nearby Bougainville. The few who have left are now pleading for help to save their relatives from sinking along with their island homes. So far only two families out of the total population of 2,300 have moved to Bougainville. The isolated islands are now suffering from food shortages and violence, with people fighting over the few resources available
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I do appreciate your reply to this thread, but there is no need to think in anyway why we are paranoid doomtards as your tone suggests.
If the australian bom wanted to calm our "FEARS" they could have let the op of this thread know long ago what the problem was and we could have all had a decent nights sleep. Put the shoe on the other foot how would you like this kind of info being told to you from someone on the other side of the world if this data was showing off your coastline.
I already know by your post you would say i have the brains to say i know it would be faulty, that is beside the point. Many people rely on this data and bom australia has had many months to correct the "faulty" beacon with no cyclones forcast. So as far as your original reply, thankyou bom australia for letting us know 2nd hand and not the op.
He did take the time to phone you, i have still not received a reply from my letter i posted almost 2 months ago. You already told the Op of this thread you where aware of the concern on the internet so why not just post a reply here or update your info on the buoy in concern.



Whatever. Just because I was able to get a reply when none of you could means nothing. I don't know where you sent your request or what was said in the request. I found an address on the BOM website, sent a message, and someone replied. They tried to fix it but failed and rescheduled the repair. They also indicated in the response that online status of buoys is not something they currently do but will consider adding it. I also looked at the tropical cyclones and found a couple that went through the Coral Sea close to the buoy, a Cat 3 only a couple of weeks before the failure. You don't like the BOM's response, who cares. Seems like you still want to hang on to your cherished belief that something mysterious is happening and refuse to accept the mundane answer that the buoy just failed. That is your problem, not mine.
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buddy if you really are true in your post, pls drop the attitude. "Whatever" and your "your cherished belief" does not help anyone. I can see you don't give a shit by your post so pls do not patronise us ok. If Bom australia has an answer we will get it not from the likes of you ok. Thankyou for your input anyway. In our polite ossie way can i just say fuckoff and get a soul.
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Interesting... they just added their commentary on the issue today..

[link to www.ndbc.noaa.gov]

"Large depth changes since 25 June are due to the Bottom Pressure Recorder being entrapped in the mooring line as it was ascending during maintenance.
Rapid depth changes prior to June 25th are due to a faulty pressure sensor."


This does NOT address the on going problems sense April and the conflict with the info in the first exchanges by many people with the staff there. Nor does it explain away all the geological activity going on in the area. Something is just not right there and I can't understand why they would not be dealing with it in a straight forward manner.
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That is all we asked for THANKYOU whoever took the time to update the buoy info.
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Just looked at the world seismic servers. For some weird reason they all look pretty much alike (!!!) WTF? How could that be? They took the Waverly, TN one offline again.
[link to aslwww.cr.usgs.gov]

And, that wretched buoy #52024 off Charleston SC is still giving very strange numbers, with sudden changes of 5 - 7 meters (15 - 21 feet) and then an almost immediate return to the predominant number. ???

And, to make matters even more uncertain, Psi Guy, who has a pretty damn good accuracy record, is now predicting an 8.0 earthquake with epicenter in San Francisco. yoda I'm in SoCA near LA - something that big we'd feel here too, but without the major damages. I do know something is coming though. We've had significant house creakings for more than a year; the last time this happened, the Northridge quake cut loose. So I know something big is coming. Who knows, we may get a big jolter of our own (God forbid).
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Interesting... they just added their commentary on the issue today..

[link to www.ndbc.noaa.gov]

"Large depth changes since 25 June are due to the Bottom Pressure Recorder being entrapped in the mooring line as it was ascending during maintenance.
Rapid depth changes prior to June 25th are due to a faulty pressure sensor."


This does NOT address the on going problems sense April and the conflict with the info in the first exchanges by many people with the staff there. Nor does it explain away all the geological activity going on in the area. Something is just not right there and I can't understand why they would not be dealing with it in a straight forward manner.
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buddy if you really are true in your post, pls drop the attitude. "Whatever" and your "your cherished belief" does not help anyone. I can see you don't give a shit by your post so pls do not patronise us ok. If Bom australia has an answer we will get it not from the likes of you ok. Thankyou for your input anyway. In our polite ossie way can i just say fuckoff and get a soul.
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I have been nothing but polite on this forum. I have researched the topic, I asked the question of the BOM, and I posted their response immediately so your accusations of me “not giving a shit” are quite unfounded. It is a simple matter that most of the posters do not understand how data are collected and analyzed let alone the steps needed to interpret data. Do you? I have replied to posts trying to explain the science of the statements and the misunderstandings people have. For this, I have been met with derision, accusation, and foul mouthed responses, just like your post. And I know why; because it isn’t what you want to hear. I don’t carry this doomsday approach to life but instead try to get to the truth and not live in a world of myth and fear. Real science does scare some people and does interfere with cherished beliefs whether you like the statement or not. So if anyone is patronizing it would be you. So you can drop your self-righteous attitude “buddy”.
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It took the deaths of over 216,000 people to get something done.

Here is the way it is supposed to work.

[link to www.ema.gov.au]

(note the warning timeframes. Our warning buoys are less than one hours tsunami travel time from the Australian coast!)


But here is how it really went. [link to www.usatoday.com]


Report Exerts-

“But the SMS messages failed to reach the five directors or were delayed for hours, said Dr. Cherdsak Virapat, the centre’s chief for International Coordination”.

“In Melbourne, Australia, Chris Ryan of the National Meteorological and Oceanographic Centre said that except for some wrong numbers and the real earthquakes, "it all seems to have gone as planned."”
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So let me get this straight. An emergency action plan was put in place. A full scale test was performed on the system to find the weak spots. Weak spots were identified and are being corrected. So what is your problem?



Move now to 2010-07-28

If the system is faulty “as claimed” then why after three months do we still have an inapt tsunami warning system still in place at the cost of $68.9 million dollars ?

Why he couldn’t get the “numbers right” in the first drill in 41 years!

Maybe Chris Ryan of the National Meteorological and Oceanographic Centre can answer your questions.

His contact Tsunami Advisor(s). ChrisRyan
Responsible Organization:
Head, National Meteorological and Oceanographic Centre, Bureau of Meteorology
Postal Address: GPO Box 1289, Melbourne, Vic. 3001, AUSTRALIA
E-mail Address: [email protected]

(Remember treat him with the respect of a civil servant.)

If you are dissatisfied with the response go public.

Remember we are in the middle of Federal election complaining. The media be it even a local radio stations are crying for political footballs to kick around. Or contact your local shadow/federal member.

Pardon the pun but lets get to the bottom of this buoy system and if its broken lets get it fixed without further delay.

OP
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I really don’t understand what you want them to do. By my estimates the buoy is some 500 miles off the coast of Australia. A research vessel travels between 10 and 15 knots so it is not a day trip out to fix the buoy. So the logical steps involved are requisition parts, get a ship and a crew, add provisions, plan routes, and, since it rather expensive to send out a ship I am sure they plan multiple missions to conserve funds. At 5000 meters it then takes several hours to raise and lower a buoy. Then add repair time and time to test the operation before leaving. So a repair mission would be at least several days and probably weeks if multiple service mission are planned.

Now of course things could be speeded up. All it takes is money. Why don’t you lead an effort to double or triple the BOM’s budget so they can buy more buoys, have more spares, and have more ships and crew to service them. I am sure they will appreciate it. Will you do that?
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That is all we asked for THANKYOU whoever took the time to update the buoy info.
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I suggested they add the status to their web site. But of course you don't think I "give a shit".
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Just looked at the world seismic servers. For some weird reason they all look pretty much alike (!!!) WTF? How could that be? They took the Waverly, TN one offline again.
[link to aslwww.cr.usgs.gov]

And, that wretched buoy #52024 off Charleston SC is still giving very strange numbers, with sudden changes of 5 - 7 meters (15 - 21 feet) and then an almost immediate return to the predominant number. ???
 Quoting: Methane Molly 980565



Did you get the number right? 52024 does not come up
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That is all we asked for THANKYOU whoever took the time to update the buoy info.



I suggested they add the status to their web site. But of course you don't think I "give a shit".
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Well don't take it to heart buddy, i did not mean to upset you sorry if i did. And Thankyou for your input and time taken.
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It took the deaths of over 216,000 people to get something done.

Here is the way it is supposed to work.

[link to www.ema.gov.au]

(note the warning timeframes. Our warning buoys are less than one hours tsunami travel time from the Australian coast!)


But here is how it really went. [link to www.usatoday.com]


Report Exerts-

“But the SMS messages failed to reach the five directors or were delayed for hours, said Dr. Cherdsak Virapat, the centre’s chief for International Coordination”.

“In Melbourne, Australia, Chris Ryan of the National Meteorological and Oceanographic Centre said that except for some wrong numbers and the real earthquakes, "it all seems to have gone as planned."”



So let me get this straight. An emergency action plan was put in place. A full scale test was performed on the system to find the weak spots. Weak spots were identified and are being corrected. So what is your problem?




Move now to 2010-07-28

If the system is faulty “as claimed” then why after three months do we still have an inapt tsunami warning system still in place at the cost of $68.9 million dollars ?

Why he couldn’t get the “numbers right” in the first drill in 41 years!

Maybe Chris Ryan of the National Meteorological and Oceanographic Centre can answer your questions.

His contact Tsunami Advisor(s). ChrisRyan
Responsible Organization:
Head, National Meteorological and Oceanographic Centre, Bureau of Meteorology
Postal Address: GPO Box 1289, Melbourne, Vic. 3001, AUSTRALIA
E-mail Address: [email protected]

(Remember treat him with the respect of a civil servant.)

If you are dissatisfied with the response go public.

Remember we are in the middle of Federal election complaining. The media be it even a local radio stations are crying for political footballs to kick around. Or contact your local shadow/federal member.

Pardon the pun but lets get to the bottom of this buoy system and if its broken lets get it fixed without further delay.

OP



I really don’t understand what you want them to do. By my estimates the buoy is some 500 miles off the coast of Australia. A research vessel travels between 10 and 15 knots so it is not a day trip out to fix the buoy. So the logical steps involved are requisition parts, get a ship and a crew, add provisions, plan routes, and, since it rather expensive to send out a ship I am sure they plan multiple missions to conserve funds. At 5000 meters it then takes several hours to raise and lower a buoy. Then add repair time and time to test the operation before leaving. So a repair mission would be at least several days and probably weeks if multiple service mission are planned.

Now of course things could be speeded up. All it takes is money. Why don’t you lead an effort to double or triple the BOM’s budget so they can buy more buoys, have more spares, and have more ships and crew to service them. I am sure they will appreciate it. Will you do that?
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Remember we are in the middle of Federal election complaining. The media be it even a local radio stations are crying for political footballs to kick around. Or contact your local shadow/federal member.
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As you seem connected I provoke some answers-

Why wasn’t the closest station 55012 not repaired and returned to service while they where in the area with the expertise to put it back on line?

Why did Station transmissions from 55012 show the same trends in seafloor rise when as claimed Station 55023, hundreds of miles away was “compromised by a storm”

How does one explain the data being scrubbed on the NOAA web site (evidence of this was posted within this thread)

Evidence of seafloor changes of depth are clearly apparent at the nearby stations of Station 51425 & Station 51426 during the last swarm of regional tectonic activity. Are both of these compromised as well?

What do you say to the 2,300 residents of the Carteret Islands off Papua New Guinea that have been pleading for help from the international community since their homes began sinking into the ocean before their own eyes? “This isn’t happening because the station is faulty”

Why was the locations of Stations 55023 and 55012 chosen in the first place? These locations where never in the original charter of outside of the 90 minute warning lines. What was the interest here?

I find the whole system a farce and a failure. Chris Ryan is either incompetent in effecting an adequate tsunami system for Australia or is an ineffective communicator to the Federal Government to get something working and maintaining the same. Or is he a “turn coat” after seeing what happened to the previous head of the CSIRO and his forced resignation on his findings/beliefs on “Climate Change”?

How does one rationalise the spending of Jindalee Radar Network? Up to now, the network has cost approximately $A1.8 billion [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Compare the funds provided for the tsunami-warning network being $68.9 million.

From the outside this looks like a sweeping under the carpet of changes here on Terra firma. I accept these changes and are at peace with them and will endeavour to help my fellow during these changes.

Can you say the same?

Or just “BooHoo” again.

OP


Geophysics has never been a science and never will be. Rather a commentary of what has transpired and an assumption of what could occur based only on history.
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As you seem connected I provoke some answers-
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I am not connected, I asked a question to the BOM


Why wasn’t the closest station 55012 not repaired and returned to service while they where in the area with the expertise to put it back on line?

Why did Station transmissions from 55012 show the same trends in seafloor rise when as claimed Station 55023, hundreds of miles away was “compromised by a storm”
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The two buoys are relatively close together in the Coral Sea. Tropical storm Ului passed over both sensors around the same time March 17 which is the around the same day that 55012 began to fail, 55012 was closer to the eye than 55023. 55023 became erratic several weeks later
[link to australiasevereweather.com]


How does one explain the data being scrubbed on the NOAA web site (evidence of this was posted within this thread)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051552


Ask NOAA

Evidence of seafloor changes of depth are clearly apparent at the nearby stations of Station 51425 & Station 51426 during the last swarm of regional tectonic activity. Are both of these compromised as well?
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according to a post earlier in this thread the two buoys were redeployed and they did not end up in the exact same location

What do you say to the 2,300 residents of the Carteret Islands off Papua New Guinea that have been pleading for help from the international community since their homes began sinking into the ocean before their own eyes? “This isn’t happening because the station is faulty”

Why was the locations of Stations 55023 and 55012 chosen in the first place? These locations where never in the original charter of outside of the 90 minute warning lines. What was the interest here?
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they are close to active earthquake regions


I find the whole system a farce and a failure. Chris Ryan is either incompetent in effecting an adequate tsunami system for Australia or is an ineffective communicator to the Federal Government to get something working and maintaining the same. Or is he a “turn coat” after seeing what happened to the previous head of the CSIRO and his forced resignation on his findings/beliefs on “Climate Change”?



How does one rationalise the spending of Jindalee Radar Network? Up to now, the network has cost approximately $A1.8 billion [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Compare the funds provided for the tsunami-warning network being $68.9 million.

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don't know. it is your country

From the outside this looks like a sweeping under the carpet of changes here on Terra firma. I accept these changes and are at peace with them and will endeavour to help my fellow during these changes.

Can you say the same?

Or just “BooHoo” again.

OP


Geophysics has never been a science and never will be. Rather a commentary of what has transpired and an assumption of what could occur based only on history.
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You clearly do not understand science
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Can someone tell me why those two charts are different? I have never seen that happen.. until today.

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No idea mother goose, thanks for the info.
I would say it has to do with the Faulty tangled thingy. In simple terms this could have been nipped in the butt a long time ago by bom replying to aussie guy first off.

The 2 buoys obviously have a problem, saying that the readings since it first came to our attention have been "unique". At this stage i will let the experts clear it up for us and hopefully get a satisfactory answer to what has happend.
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It took the deaths of over 216,000 people to get something done.

Here is the way it is supposed to work.

[link to www.ema.gov.au]

(note the warning timeframes. Our warning buoys are less than one hours tsunami travel time from the Australian coast!)


But here is how it really went. [link to www.usatoday.com]


Report Exerts-

“But the SMS messages failed to reach the five directors or were delayed for hours, said Dr. Cherdsak Virapat, the centre’s chief for International Coordination”.

“In Melbourne, Australia, Chris Ryan of the National Meteorological and Oceanographic Centre said that except for some wrong numbers and the real earthquakes, "it all seems to have gone as planned."”



Move now to 2010-07-28

If the system is faulty “as claimed” then why after three months do we still have an inapt tsunami warning system still in place at the cost of $68.9 million dollars ?

Why he couldn’t get the “numbers right” in the first drill in 41 years!

Maybe Chris Ryan of the National Meteorological and Oceanographic Centre can answer your questions.

His contact Tsunami Advisor(s). ChrisRyan
Responsible Organization:
Head, National Meteorological and Oceanographic Centre, Bureau of Meteorology
Postal Address: GPO Box 1289, Melbourne, Vic. 3001, AUSTRALIA
E-mail Address: [email protected]

(Remember treat him with the respect of a civil servant.)

If you are dissatisfied with the response go public.

Remember we are in the middle of Federal election complaining. The media be it even a local radio stations are crying for political footballs to kick around. Or contact your local shadow/federal member.

Pardon the pun but lets get to the bottom of this buoy system and if its broken lets get it fixed without further delay.

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Please do me a favor if anyone there is going to do some complaining about this issue. Ask the officials this question," Do any gov't personnel believe that cern/lhc is partly in cause of the denigration of the ocean floor and the 2000% spike in under sea floor volcanic eruptions this year,especially after cern/lhc record breaking test collisions and Wormholes spotted over Norway and Australia?"

Thanks Mates
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Re: OCEAN FLOOR RISING BY 13 FEET PER DAY HERE
Can someone tell me why those two charts are different? I have never seen that happen.. until today.

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They are not different the top one is over 2 days longer and has a bigger range, up to 4000 meters. The lower chart is a shorter time and shows a much smaller range in depth. In short, the lower one is a blow up of the right half of the top chart.
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Can someone tell me why those two charts are different? I have never seen that happen.. until today.

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They are not different the top one is over 2 days longer and has a bigger range, up to 4000 meters. The lower chart is a shorter time and shows a much smaller range in depth. In short, the lower one is a blow up of the right half of the top chart.
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Each chart is of the same buoy. Each chart covers a four day time frame. The 26th, 27th, and the 28th are the days covered on both charts. They are different. The chart has been changed.
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The two buoys are relatively close together in the Coral Sea. Tropical storm Ului passed over both sensors around the same time March 17 which is the around the same day that 55012 began to fail, 55012 was closer to the eye than 55023. 55023 became erratic several weeks later
[link to australiasevereweather.com]

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bsmeter2



HIGH SEAS WEATHER WARNING FOR METAREA 10 ISSUED BY THE AUSTRALIAN BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY, BRISBANE 0109 UTC 17 March 2010
Ului
Latitude thirteen decimal eight south [13.8S] longitude one hundred and fifty seven decimal eight east [157.8E]
AREA AFFECTED Within 140 nautical miles of the centre.

Distance from station 55023 location 14.803 S 153.585 E (14°48'9" S 153°35'6" E)

192.439 nautical miles!



Distance from station 55012 location 15.800 S 158.500 E (15°48'0" S 158°30'0" E)

178.893 nautical miles away!


@ 140 nautical miles away the wind speed was only 35 knots.

The flag on Sydney Harbour Bridge only becomes horizontal at 25 knots.
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The two buoys are relatively close together in the Coral Sea. Tropical storm Ului passed over both sensors around the same time March 17 which is the around the same day that 55012 began to fail, 55012 was closer to the eye than 55023. 55023 became erratic several weeks later
[link to australiasevereweather.com]



bsmeter2



HIGH SEAS WEATHER WARNING FOR METAREA 10 ISSUED BY THE AUSTRALIAN BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY, BRISBANE 0109 UTC 17 March 2010
Ului
Latitude thirteen decimal eight south [13.8S] longitude one hundred and fifty seven decimal eight east [157.8E]
AREA AFFECTED Within 140 nautical miles of the centre.

Distance from station 55023 location 14.803 S 153.585 E (14°48'9" S 153°35'6" E)

192.439 nautical miles!



Distance from station 55012 location 15.800 S 158.500 E (15°48'0" S 158°30'0" E)

178.893 nautical miles away!


@ 140 nautical miles away the wind speed was only 35 knots.

The flag on Sydney Harbour Bridge only becomes horizontal at 25 knots.
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I know. The guy is so full of it. Can't even read the two charts above and wants to sound like he has this thing all cleared up.

Somebody's trying WAY to hard to misdirect people from noticing what is happing in the Coral Sea.





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