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Met Stray Momma Dog with 3 Puppies today..How to help them?

 
goddess ISIS
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Met Stray Momma Dog with 3 Puppies today..How to help them?
Today at my friend's office (a warehouse area)..we met a momma dog with 3 puppies.

They are stray dogs who live on an abandoned piece of land near the warehouse complex. I'm thinking about bringing some milk and food for them.

I'm currently in Indonesia and the majority of population are Muslims. Caring for dogs is not seen as a necessity here. That's why many people abuse dogs because of their religious beliefs.

So the cleaning man at the warehouse complex told us that the neighbors around the area sometimes throw stones at Momma Dog & the puppies when they bark.

Tomorrow we will bring food for them. And will try to get the dogs to a shelter. I want Mama Dog & her puppies to stay together as a family, not separated. The puppies look really cute.

I'm thinking about establishing a shelter/animal foundation to help stray animals here. I might need advice regarding this.

1. Is it okay to bring milk for the puppies?
2. What is the best emergency aid for them?
3. It's impossible to take Mama Dog & puppies to my apartment as the management has no animal policy.

Any advice & input are very much appreciated.

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04/14/2010 11:46 AM
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If I show interest in the dogs..some "street handlers" or "peddlers" might manipulate the situation to make money and try to make me "pay" some money to take the dogs from the street, to get their "permission" sort of.

How to deal with that? I need advice regarding this.
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04/14/2010 11:47 AM
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I knew that bitch, gave her the bone and now I'm in the dog house. I think it was those puppy dog eyes she gave me that got my tail wagg'n. But that digg'n up bones...What was your question?
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04/14/2010 11:48 AM
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Call animal control, they should pick them up.
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Waiting for reply. You can reply here or PM me.
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i love dogs

treat them like children, they are innocent
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If the puppies are old enough to eat solid food, clean water and dry food is better than milk.

If they're not, I think you're still better off feeding the mother dog, which will help her in turn feed them.

Do NOT feed them anything that contains chocolate or raisins. Both are dealy to dogs.

You're a wonderful person for caring about these poor dogs!
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Dogs dont require milk if they are with their mother...how big are they? maybe a bag of puppy food would be better. If not meat, with potato or rice ground up together is good too.
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Call animal control, they should pick them up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 793980

Most will end up with euthanasia!
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Most dogs cannot properly digest cows milk, and drinking it may result is diarrhea/vomit ting. Remember that for animals, milk is food, not drink. If you do have a reason that you want to give your dog milk, it is suggested that you give goats milk.

I'm assuming you mean milk for the puppies? The mom should be able to feed them as long as she is being fed. Be very careful around a dog you don't know and it's babies, I wouldn't want you to get hurt because she thinks you are trying to take them.
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I like you OP! Sorry no tips, but i hope you can do it!
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04/14/2010 11:55 AM
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3 choices.

1. take them in and care for them permenantly.

2. take to animal control/humane society to let them try to find them a home.

3. keep them temporarily and try to find them a hiome yourslef on craigslist etc.

i did #3 with a kitten i found. i found him a great home.
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04/14/2010 11:56 AM
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Call animal control, they should pick them up.

Most will end up with euthanasia!
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Well that is disheartening. Surely these dogs have been delivered to you for a reason, no? I love animals, wish we could all live in harmony together.

Milk will be fine for the puppies as long as the Mother is not overprotective of them, in which case they should just get the milk from her. You can leave food for them as well. Dry food mixed with wet food is best. Individual bowls also, because dogs will try to dominate and take food for themselves. Make sure you watch them eat to make sure they all get and others don't dominate. Watch dog whisperer online (youtube probably has some vids), it is a great show you can learn so much about dog psychology from watching.
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If the puppies are old enough to eat solid food, clean water and dry food is better than milk.

If they're not, I think you're still better off feeding the mother dog, which will help her in turn feed them.

Do NOT feed them anything that contains chocolate or raisins. Both are dealy to dogs.

You're a wonderful person for caring about these poor dogs!
 Quoting: Returner 997
Thanks for the suggestions & advice. I will not bring milk, and will avoid chocolate & raisins.

Most street dogs in Indonesia end up in euthanasia or sold to a Sumatran restaurants. They call Dog meat restaurants "LAPO".

Poor people usually make money out of stray dogs and sell them to Lapos. :(
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04/14/2010 11:58 AM
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Agree with a few other posters. No milk. The puppies will get milk from their mother if she in turn eats herself.

Food and water should be sufficient. If you want, and have the ability to take them in, then do so. But consider what you would do with them all once the puppies are old enough.

Good luck, and you have a big heart !!! hf
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Most dogs cannot properly digest cows milk, and drinking it may result is diarrhea/vomit ting. Remember that for animals, milk is food, not drink. If you do have a reason that you want to give your dog milk, it is suggested that you give goats milk.

I'm assuming you mean milk for the puppies? The mom should be able to feed them as long as she is being fed. Be very careful around a dog you don't know and it's babies, I wouldn't want you to get hurt because she thinks you are trying to take them.
 Quoting: Lil Miss Trouble
OK..Noted hf Thanks for the caring advice. No milk for sure.
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i love dogs

treat them like children, they are innocent
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 942537
I'm a cat person actually..but I'm drawn to Mama Dog & her 3 puppies
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3 choices.

1. take them in and care for them permenantly.

2. take to animal control/humane society to let them try to find them a home.

3. keep them temporarily and try to find them a hiome yourslef on craigslist etc.

i did #3 with a kitten i found. i found him a great home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 941804


Obviously option 1 is impossible. i will try option 2 and 3..(put at my friend's house). Thanks for the information hf
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If the puppies are old enough to eat solid food, clean water and dry food is better than milk.

If they're not, I think you're still better off feeding the mother dog, which will help her in turn feed them.

Do NOT feed them anything that contains chocolate or raisins. Both are dealy to dogs.

You're a wonderful person for caring about these poor dogs!
Thanks for the suggestions & advice. I will not bring milk, and will avoid chocolate & raisins.

Most street dogs in Indonesia end up in euthanasia or sold to a Sumatran restaurants. They call Dog meat restaurants "LAPO".

Poor people usually make money out of stray dogs and sell them to Lapos. :(
 Quoting: goddess ISIS 942881

Where is that?
Do you mean euthanized?
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04/14/2010 12:04 PM
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Are there any shelters or dog rescue groups in the area?

They might be able to help.

If you had photos of the dogs, that might be a good way to generate interest (and sympathy).
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04/14/2010 12:09 PM
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Water and Dry dog food,thats all they need
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I'm home and my thoughts are with Mama Dog and her 3 puppies on the street. I hope they are okay and nobody throw stones at them.

Please help me, GLP :


- Send POSITIVE THOUGHTS, HEALING LIGHT & ENERGY to Mama Dog & her 3 puppies.
- Send PROTECTION THOUGHTS surrounding them
- Pray that they will not be separated from each other.

Please do it together with me. This really mean so much to me.

"It is time for you to make a conscious effort to change your attitudes towards the animal kingdom. It is time to see all of them as divine expressions of All That Is, each one a creation of spirit. Look at a bird and send a message of love and thanks to all the birds. Look at a dog and convey your thanks for the loyal help of dogs since mankind's history began. Give thanks to the spiders in your home and the squirrels in the tree. They all serve the Creator in some way just as you do. They have a right to life, love and fulfillment in their own fashion just as you do."

Good excerpt from : [link to www.awakening-healing.com]
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Where is that?
Do you mean euthanized?
 Quoting: Pilot_007


Yes..euthanized or sold to Lapos (special Sumatran restaurants thet serve dog meat as cuisine).
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help them ,it will bring you luck
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Are there any shelters or dog rescue groups in the area?

They might be able to help.

If you had photos of the dogs, that might be a good way to generate interest (and sympathy).
 Quoting: Returner 997
Will return and try to make pics of Mamma dog and puppies tomorrow.
Also will check with shelters/dog rescue here..have to make sure that the shelter will not euthanize them/separate the mother from puppies.

I'm home now but my mind is with them.
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I found this listing:

[link to www.expat.or.id]

It's an animal welfare group in Jakarta. there are email addys and phone numbers. Thought maybe it would help.
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Water and Dry dog food,thats all they need
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Thank you for the advice.
Tomorrow will bring food and water for them.

Will also try to take pictures of mamma dog & 3 puppies.
Then contact a shelter. I don't want them to die on the street (because of stone throwing abuse) or end up being sold to a Lapo (special restaurant that serve dog meat as cuisine)
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God bless you OP for helping them. I am praying for a happy ending. hf
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I found this listing:

[link to www.expat.or.id]

It's an animal welfare group in Jakarta. there are email addys and phone numbers. Thought maybe it would help.
 Quoting: Returner 997
Thanks Returner :) :hf: blessings to you.

Please help send positive thoughts & healing to Mama dog and her puppies as well.
hf
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I'm home and my thoughts are with Mama Dog and her 3 puppies on the street. I hope they are okay and nobody throw stones at them.

Please help me, GLP :


- Send POSITIVE THOUGHTS, HEALING LIGHT & ENERGY to Mama Dog & her 3 puppies.
- Send PROTECTION THOUGHTS surrounding them
- Pray that they will not be separated from each other.

Please do it together with me. This really mean so much to me.

"It is time for you to make a conscious effort to change your attitudes towards the animal kingdom. It is time to see all of them as divine expressions of All That Is, each one a creation of spirit. Look at a bird and send a message of love and thanks to all the birds. Look at a dog and convey your thanks for the loyal help of dogs since mankind's history began. Give thanks to the spiders in your home and the squirrels in the tree. They all serve the Creator in some way just as you do. They have a right to life, love and fulfillment in their own fashion just as you do."

Good excerpt from : [link to www.awakening-healing.com]
 Quoting: goddess ISIS 942881


Can you adopt them? I know that is probably not an option.
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God bless you OP for helping them. I am praying for a happy ending. hf
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hf Thank you..me too
Please send positive thoughts to mamma dog as well..Bless you





GLP