I am a Chemtrail skeptic.

Thanks 941836, once I get through the stuff from Aquarius 7, I'll read through the links you've pointed me to.

1 In Michigan, USA

2 Your guess is as good as mine

3 See #2

4 See #3

5 See #4

At 49 and having been a sky watcher all my life op, 11 years ago I saw something I knew wasn't right. When I started to RESEARCH, I found things I didn't quite believe.

After 11 years of research and OBSERVATION, I know for certain things are not right conerning 'chemtrails', 'persistent contrails', 'high cirrus clouds', or whatever the hell you want to call them.

As a kid, I worked in the farm fields from sunup to sundown. Never once did I see contrails of a persisting nature. They always disapated at the speed of the jet's travel.

Ater spending a large part of my life in aviation (and no, I wasn't a baggage checker or the sort, no demeaning intended) I began to notice these persisting trails that had never been there before 1998, in my area. Kinda aroused my interest, if you know what I mean.

#'s 2,3,4 and 5 are honest answers, but I have travelled the continental US since first noticing this phenomenon, and have seen the same thing in virtually every place I have been, since 1998, at one time or another.

Either there is truth to 'chemtrails' or our atmosphere has changed drastically enough to support this shit I see on a nearly daily basis now.

Oh and btw, the skies here have been devoid of these ugly lines since last Friday, but they restatred today.

Volcano anyone?

Just my $.02

Thanks 948888, what you say is interesting, and I guess the question I am most curious about now is "Where does chemtrail spraying take place?"

The remote areas of Australia I live in are clear skies, but maybe they only target High Density areas, if they are doing it. I'll have to do a search on Australian reports of chemtrails, and see what turns up.

[link to willthomasonline.net]

JUST LOOOOOKK UP!!!!

I just want to throw this out there. While I may be harsh to some of you trying to offer OP evidence of chemtrails, I have seen something that was rather, unusual.


About a month ago I step outside and look up. The sky was pretty clear but had a few contrails. Nothing new there, but there was one that caught my eye.

It was a semi-circle contrail across the western sky. It was as if the pilot changed his mind about his destination and turned around. The U shape was massive. It was not an abrupt turn but a long, deliberate turn that seemed as casual in creation as odd in design.

I've never seen a high altitude plane make a banking turn like that in all my life so I couldn't explain the contrail of one. I've NEVER seen a contrail in any shape other than a straight line. I tried to imagine a reason for a pilot to turn away from a major city [I live on the outskirts of our fourth largest] with two MAJOR airports and countless private strips, to head back the other direction.


I know it's not evidence and I know it's just a mere observation but if anyone is willing to suggest a reason or even say they've witnessed such a thing I'd be greatly appreciative.

I wish I might be so lucky as to live in remote area such as yourself Hh, as this is cause for quite a bit of consternation in my life.

Keep your eyes on the sky.

Over the last 11 yrs. I've seen some of the wierdest and most unexplainable patterns left in the sky ac. Don't discredit mere observation, as it's one of the cornerstones of true 'science'.

:z3: The well reasoned case has been put in dozens of chemtrail threads on GLP over the years.

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Here's some more when you finish with that, Headhigh:

:aq dit air:

Sorry it isn't available on a website; but it's worth the $30 if you really want verifiable information. Actually, from what I understand, you can pick up a copy on ebay for less.

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You are welcom Headhigh. Now check this:

[link to chem11.proboards.com]

Some really good photos in the above link. I think there are even examples of the looping kind as one poster was describing.....

"welcome" that is. Oops.

: )

[link to willthomasonline.net]
1991
October 22

BANYACYA IN THE UN
Traditional Hopi elder Thomas Banyacya travels to the United Nations, where he presents a letter reminding international delegates: “This house is built on the original native peoples' land, yet it has not permitted native peoples to speak in the General Assembly.”


HUGHES AEROSPACE FILES WELSBACH SEEDING PATENT
A patent is filed by Hughes aircraft company for the “Stratospheric Welsbach Seeding for Reduction of Global Warming”. Environmental consultant Mike Castle later discovers the primary purpose behind chemtrails by reflecting incoming sunlight with Welsbach oxides of metals capable of converting heat trapped by greenhouse gases near the Earth's surface into far-infrared wavelengths, which then radiate into space. Cautioning that the resulting white skies may be unpopular, the Hughes patent nevertheless suggests that these very tiny metal flakes could be “added to the fuel of jet airliners, so that the particles would be emitted from the jet engine exhaust while the airliner was at its cruising altitude.”

Aluminum oxide can withstand temperatures far higher than jet engine exhausts. While highly abrasive in larger sizes, a former Alcoa aluminum engineer told this reporter that aluminum in the 10 to 100 micron sizes called for in the sunscreen patent would simply polish jet turbine blades without harming them. (A human hair is about 100 microns across). The engineer added that this “very fine, talcum-like” aluminum powder would appear as a “pure white plume” in the sky.

1992
NAS GEOENGINEERING STUDY
National Academy of Science $80, 944-page report on the “Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming” includes chapters on “mitigation” describing geoengineering schemes championed by the late Edward Teller and others: “Cloud stimulation by provision of cloud condensation nuclei appears to be a feasible and low-cost option capable of being used to mitigate any quantity of CO2. Perhaps one of the surprises of this analysis is the relatively low costs at which some of the geoengineering options might be implemented.
Hopi elder Banyacya at United Nations

1993
November 22

During this International Year of the Indigenous People, Hopi elders are invited to address the United Nations in New York. The Hopi Prophecy Message - “Cry of the Earth” - is delivered by Thomas Banyacya, Dan Evehama and Martin Gashwaseoma to the UN General Assembly. Gashwaseoma, who informs representatives of the world's governments that Hopi prophecies foretold how people would become corrupt and turn away from their Creator and abuse the sacred Earth.

“We must act swiftly to save land and lives,” Banyacya tells UN Secretary General Boutros Ghali. “The Guardian Spirits of the land have begun to act as we warned, i.e. earthquakes, fires, floods, arctic freezes, big winds, violence erupting, incurable diseases and more.”

Banyacya adds, “We were warned long ago that this time would come!” Many ancients Hopi prophecies foretelling the coming of railroads, freeways, the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, and the international space station have come true. Now the Hopi elders inform the world that the Great Purification will be signaled by “cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky.”
USAF

1996
August

U.S. AIR FORCE REVEALS TECHNIQUES ON “OWNING THE WEATHER”
U.S. Air Force research study, "Weather As A Force Multiplier: Owning The Weather in 2025" outlines how HAARP and aerial cloud-seeding from tankers could allow USAF “Weather Force Specialists” to fly “aerial obscuration” missions spraying chemicals to form “cirrus shields”. The study further notes that HAARP could be used “to stimulate,” heat and steer sections of the upper atmosphere. VIDEO



1998
EDWARD TELLER'S CALL FOR AERIAL “SUNSCREEN” OPPOSED BY TOP CLIMATE MODELER
As the first “Category 6” hurricane ever recorded packs sustained winds of 200 mph, Antarctica warms 10-times faster than the global rate, and flagship insurer Lloyds of London is taking on water after losing almost $11 billion in just four years, “Father of the H-Bomb” Edward Teller addresses the International Seminar On Planetary Emergencies. Why not spray a protective chemical “sunscreen” into the upper atmosphere, Teller urges. Read his "Sunscreen For Planet Earth"

[link to willthomasonline.net]
December 22

WEBS FROM THE SKY
Oregon's Wallowa Chieftain reports sightings “web-like material… falling from the sky.” Some locals think the filaments are falling “from three military jets that had been flying back and forth in an east-west flight pattern at high altitude.” Other links the webs to Hopi Prophecy.


Winter 2000
MARK STEADHAM'S HOUSTON CONTRAIL STUDY
Using Flight Explorer software to identify the airliners and military aircraft passing Houston, Texas, Mark Steadham times their respective plumes. Sample results:

12/02/00
11:00 am ~4-8 hrs. (military)
11:45 am ~2 minutes (commercial)

12/08/000
8:50 pm 10 seconds (commercial)
01:00 pm ~4-8 hrs. (military)

12/21/000
8:50 am 20 seconds (commercial)
09:00 am ~4-8 hrs. (military)
09:40 am ~4-8 hrs. (military)
10:10 am 20 seconds (commercial)

Confirmed contrail observations in study (46)
All confirmed contrails 15 seconds or less 72%
All confirmed contrails 30 seconds or less 80%
All confirmed contrails 2 minutes or less 96%
White plumes left by from Military Aircraft: ~4 hours to 8 hours
Centre Point science texbook describes chemtrails sunshield

2001

CENTRE POINT SCIENCE TEXTBOOK TEACHES KIDS TO ACCEPT CHEMTRAILS
A is for Apple. B is for Boy. C is for Chemtrails. At least this is what one American father finds. While checking out his children's science book, SMT is astonished to find seventh graders being taught about chemtrails, and geoengineering the planet.

The chemtrails section is found in the Centre Point Learning Science I Essential Interactions science book. Under “Solutions for Global Warming” section 5.19 features a photo of a big multi-engine jet with a familiar orange/red paint scheme. The caption reads: “Figure 1- Jet engines running on richer fuel would add particles to the atmosphere to create a sunscreen.” The logo on the plane says: “Particle Air”.

Helping habituate children to a life of lethal sunshine and “protective” spray planes, its authors are referring to a sunscreen spread across the sky. “Could we deliberately add particles to the atmosphere?” asks the text, before helpfully suggesting that “Burning coal adds soot to the air.”

In a country whose self-appointed regime routinely censors scientific studies, at least some 7th grade science are more focused on indoctrinating kids with risky techno “quick-fixes” than conscious conservation and common sense. Where are the picture, wonders one parent, “of people planting trees, or turning down thermostats, or bicycling, or any of the other ways not to add to the problem?”


March 7

SMALL PARTICLES FORM BIG OVERCASTS -NCAR
''Conspiracy nonsense,'' snorts Kenneth Sassen, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Utah. ''These things are at 30,000 to 40,000 feet in the atmosphere. They're tiny particles. They're not going to affect anyone. The cloud-forming contrails that conspiracy theorists find so ominous are perfectly natural. The odd grid and parallel-line patterns are easily explained as contrails blown together by the wind." USA Today interviews me extensively, but cuts my evidence from reporter Tracy Watson's story. So do CBC Radio, and Good Morning America. [USA Today Mar 7/01]

At the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, Al Cooper studies the tiny particles that become nuclei for clumping clouds and raindrops. Spread a few extra nuclei like silver iodide into highly humid air and rainfall results. But in air not already swollen with moisture, especially in near-drought conditions, introducing too many particulates into the atmosphere to compete for a small amount of moisture can act like a sponge, resulting in decreased rainfall.

Vincent Schaefer, a Naval postgraduate who invented iodine cloud-seeding techniques in 1946, (as well as Joseph Moran's contemporary textbook, Meteorology) agree that clouds form when water vapor accretes around particles of grit acting as attracting nuclei. Recent NOAA and NASA atmospheric studies such as TARFOX, ACE-Asia, ACE-I and II, INDOEX and Project SUCCESS have confirmed that the only way to form artificial clouds under conditions of low humidity and less than ideal temperatures is by dispensing additional particles from aircraft.

In other words, when atmospheric conditions prevent the moisture-attracting nuclei left by aircraft engine exhausts from forming contrails, chemicals added to the fuel can leave enough extra particles to create clouds when relative humidity is less than 70%.

Modeled by Paul Demott at Colorado State University's Department of Atmospheric Science, the principle factors determining cirrus cloud development are temperature, relative humidity, and aerosol size. The last variable is of primary importance and may be supplied by high-flying aircraft. The smaller the size of each added nuclei, the faster the rate of cirrus cloud formation.


March 12

S.T. BRENDT INTERVIEWS AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL MANAGER, “DEEP SKY”
In remote rural Maine, radio reporter S.T. Brendt and her partner count 30 big jets in 45 minutes. She finally reaches an Air Traffic Control Manager for the entire northeastern seaboard, who tells her that of the nine jets on his radarscope, she should be able to see only one from her location. Brendt calls the assistant WMWV news director, who takes the news staff outside. Together they count 370 lines in skies usually devoid of aerial activity.

Over three taped interviews, the federal ATC manager we dub “Deep Sky” reveals that chemicals sprayed by specially designated USAF tankers degrade Air traffic Control radar returns. When asked whether the air force spray tankers cross into Canadian air space, he replies “yes.”

When asked the purpose of these missions, the FAA official says he was told “weather modification” after a “higher civil authority” ordered him to divert incoming trans-Atlantic airliners around military formations flying over 37,000 feet on March 12, 20 and 21, 2001. The explanation told to controllers across the nation is later defined as “climate modification”.

May 27

CHEMTRAILS ON CABLE TV PROVOKES CANADIAN AIR FORCE INTO COSTLY LIE
With funding from a concerned businessman, I illustrate a short “Chemtrails 101” script with local chemtrail photos and take the package to a major cable TV company. The resulting advertisement runs around the clock for a month on the “menu” channel of TV listings in Victoria, British Columbia capitol - as well as the viewing area around the country's Canadian Forces air base at Comox. Cable watchers deluge the mainstream media for coverage, and I began getting calls from newsrooms that have ignored the plumes being spread over their heads for years: “Our phones are ringing off the hook, Mr. Thomas. We have to interview you.”

Local newspapers are also pulled into the story. Provoked into addressing the issue, the Comox brass goes ballistic, angrily denouncing the “hoax” on local radio. But this move backfires when the Vancouver Courier runs a story featuring Terry Stewart, who reveals that his information of a “military operation” being conducted by USAF tankers in local skies came from the Comox airbase. Comox air force radar techs confirm tracking the spray planes.

July 19

DYN-O-MAT TEST TAKES OUT THUNDERSTORM
Entering a thunderstorm 10 miles off West Palm Beach, a B-57 Canberra jet bomber chartered for one million dollars releases some 9,000 pounds of improved Dyn-O-Gel capable of 10-times stronger water absorption. Miami's Channel 5's weather radar shows the huge thunderhead losing moisture. Within seconds, the buildup vanished as one side of the cloud collapsed “like an avalanche”, according to a chase plane cameraman. [Sun-Sentinel July 20/01]
National Academy of Science

BARIUM LEVELS UP SHARPLY
California state officials cannot explain how barium levels have nearly doubled since 1991.


Chemtrail Death graffiti

Late 1999

CHEMTRAIL-RELATED ILLNESS
The Idaho Observer observes: “Last year, north Idaho naturopaths determined that the upper respiratory infections that would drag on for months were not viral or bacterial but were fungal.” In a recent survey among 179 patients reportedly suffering from CRI:

* 22% have been to a hospital Emergency Room.

*34% exhibit rashes and sores.

* Half or more experience disorientation and suffered from stiff neck and gastro-intestinal problems.

* 72% have a sore throat.

* 78% report severe headaches.

* 81% complain of congestion.

* Almost everyone surveyed experiences short-term memory loss and difficulty in concentrating.
* 99% are found to have fungus in their blood.

Whatever its origins, there is increasing fungus among us. Chemist and botanist Bruce Tanio's list of symptoms:

* Abdominal pain, gas and bloating, indigestion, heartburn, constipation, diarrhea, gastritis.

* Swelling and pain of muscles and/or joints.

*Depression, anxiety, sudden mood swings, lack of concentration, drowsiness, fatigue, insomnia, poor memory, headaches, and light-headedness.
chemtrails in grid pattern over lake violate commercial air traffic rules
Chemtrails Timeline 2001 - 2004
Special Thanks To Glenn Boyle for his extensive chemtrail photo collection - many of which appear on these pages. If your photo is not credited here, kindly notify me [email protected] and I will post you rname and website right away.
Thank you. -William Thomas
William Thomas in Capitola, CA photo by Karen Nevis
Glenn Boyle
Glenn Boyle
USAF "Owning The Weather"

Banyacya at UN whatmagazine.org
lightwatcher.com

Glenn Boyle

CHEMTRAILS TIMELINE

1962 - 2008
by
William Thomas

willthomasonline.net

[All references from Chemtrails Confirmed 2007 by William Thomas unless otherwise noted.]

1962 - 2001

Pre-Columbian Era
HOPI PROPHECY
Long before Columbus “discovered” civilizations long extant throughout the Americas, the Hopi elders of the Southwest foretell of the end of the Fourth Age of Man during a time of Great Purification. This period will begin with the appearance of white people on native lands. [“Koyanisquaatsi” DVD]


1962
August 4-15

OPERATION CUMULUS
British Royal Air Force and Western scientists engage in Operation Cumulus, a rainmaking project that leads to 35 flood-related deaths in Devon, England. [BBC Aug 30/01]


1961 - 1980
PROJECT STORM FURY
US scientists conduct extensive research into weakening hurricanes with cloud-seeding techniques from aircraft in a project known as Project Storm Fury.


1967
OPERATION POPEYE
Operation Popeye is conducted by the 54th Weather Reconnaissance Squadron to "make mud, not war" by seeding clouds over the Ho Chi Minh Trail to wash out North Vietnamese supply routes. In its failure it leads to ENMOD.


1975
US NAVY CONTRAIL GENERATOR PATENT
U.S. Navy “Contrail Generation Patent” describes a “Contrail generation apparatus for producing a powder contrail having maximum radiation scattering ability.” The patent notes that the Navy's invention is also suitable “to generate contrails or reflective screens for any desired purpose.”


1977
ENMOD
UN treaty "Convention on the Prohibition of Military or any other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification" (ENMOD) specifically prohibits “the use of techniques that would have widespread, long-lasting or severe effects through deliberate manipulation of natural processes and cause such phenomena as earthquakes, tidal waves and changes in climate and weather patterns.”

The USA has similar laws already in place, including:
EPA AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT RULE 402. NUISANCE
A person shall not discharge from any source whatsoever such quantities of air contaminants or other material which cause injury, detriment, nuisance, or annoyance to any considerable number of persons or to the public, or which endanger the comfort, repose, health or safety of any such persons or the public, or which cause, or have a natural tendency to cause, injury or damage to business or property.



1987
August 11

BERNARD EASTLUND AND HAARP PATENT
The first of three patents awarded to MIT physicist Bernard Eastlund describe his Method and Apparatus for Altering a Region of the Earth's Atmosphere, Ionosphere and/or Magnetosphere as focusing on weather modification. Commercial patent #4,686,605 claims that directed energy beams of more than one-billion watts can be used for “altering the upper atmosphere wind patterns using plumes of atmospheric particles as a lens or focusing device” to disturb weather thousands of miles away.
Watch 2008 TV News Barium Chemtrails VIDEO
chemtrails spot commercial by Wiliam Thomas on cable TV screenshot

anyone with half a brain can see when they are spraying and when they arent...i never believed in any of this until i saw it with my own eyes. 100% certain

DO you want more stuff?

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Yeah ... that law has worked out really well, hasn't it.

Chemtrails aside, think of the pollution generated by landfill burning, factories, etc. ad nauseum.

All illegal under the terms of that law.



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At this point 934629, I have more than enough to keep me occupied for the next week I think. Work kinda interferes with my online reading time. Thanks though, I'll post any questions I have arising out of this.

Typical Bonehead Chemtard answer!!

Chemtrails are the MOST Stupid Conspiracy ever Fabricated!!

A 30 year world wide Chemtrail operation would require
way too many people,and there would be plenty of evidence and whistleblowers,There's now way that Chemtrail operations could be hidden..

Is this sarcasm?

"A 30 year world wide Chemtrail operation would require
way too many people,and there would be plenty of evidence and whistleblowers,There's now way that Chemtrail operations could be hidden.."

I also find the delivery system of "chemtrails", not the cloud seeding side of the argument, to be rather weak. It doesn't do much good to spray something that doesn't drop very fast OVER a target knowing they'll drift away.


You'd want to spray something that doesn't linger in the sky for hours.

Just my thought on it.

So all you are saying is that you have absolutely no evidence to support the irrational fear of clouds that you have developed and choose rather to insult people and use profanity to show us how smart you are.

Have you ever actually been on an airplane? No flight ever takes off straight from a runway and never turns. You also need to look up racetrack pattern.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

check out carnicom.com or google chemtrails...helloooo...where have you been they've been spraying since at least 2000...your probably too youn to remember all blue skies most of the time...sad...

[link to outdoors.webshots.com]

(Notice chemtrail loop here. Yes. These do happen.)

To the naysayers. They are not worth the time. Since they obviously can't, nor won't read or even watch the voluminous video feeds all over the net with ample evidence.

Hmmm,
none of the contrails I see, end up looking like that. That is peculiar.

Last Edited by Headhigh on 04/21/2010 01:01 AM

Thanks to all who took time to reply seriously. There sure is some weird things going on out there. I am lucky, I live in very remote areas where I don't see this sort of thing. I'm going to go and have a look in some of the areas highlighted in Australia by other posters.

In the meantime, I got to thinking what would be effects of alumina in the air. I don't know much about it's reflective properties, but the combination might explain these suckers, that the BOM in Aus don't want to explain. I was thinking in terms of the old "aluminium chaff" they drop during wartime to confuse radar.

Thread: aussies unusual radar pattern now

Thread: Mysterious "Crop Circle" patterns appearing on the Bureau of Meteorology's national radar system

I love debunking stupid...

2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:

B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--

(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;

(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.

[link to www.fas.org]

They actually call it a weapon.

Thing you need to learn is that disbelief is just as fucking stupid as belief is...

I think you need to read the WHOLE thing.

Understand the definition of SPACE as written in the bill.


Understand WHY Webre and Rosin wrote the bill in the first place, and what it was about.

It's obvious that you haven't.