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RECESSION PROOF GLP: Food after DOOM - how to scrounge and enjoy eating it

 
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RECESSION PROOF GLP: Food after DOOM - how to scrounge and enjoy eating it
*Edited to add 'RECESSION PROOF GLP' to the subject so this will be sent to the proper section. Thanks Mods! :)

Looking for people's input on food that you might not be eating NOW, but may someday choose to eat to survive.



Some of the following foods may not sound appealing right now, but given the choice between eating and starving, and if you have a choice of items, it's nice to know which foods are actually somewhat tasty, and which are for a last resort.

Here are a few possibly unusual items that are not only edible but also can taste pretty good.

MEAT GROUP:

Pigeon, duck, goose, crow, turkey etc. Remove all feathers quickly by simply skinning the animal (rather than plucking), and cook thoroughly like chicken. Some birds have very little meat except on the breasts; most (except turkey and game hens) are only dark meat. Also scavenge for eggs.

Rabbit - "tastes like chicken." Eats plants. Does not have much fat at all, and you cannot live off rabbit alone without supplementing additional fat. "White" meat, high in protein. Great cooked any way chicken can be cooked.

Squirrel - eats nuts and plants, supposedly tastes like chicken, but can be stringy in texture. Again not much fat. Cook like chicken.

Rats and mice - sometimes desperate times call for desperate measures, but make sure the meat is well-done. Be careful to avoid fleas which may carry diseases like plague.

Beaver - very tasty, eat roots and grasses. The meat is sweetish, and the texture is sort of like beef, though the grain is unusual. The tail is quite fatty and better saved for soapmaking or lard. Wonderful soaked in salt water and then grilled. Works good cut into smaller pieces and cooked like beef.

Muskrat and nutria, woodchucks - supposedly even tastier than beaver, again they eat roots and grasses.

Raccoon - can go either way. Some feel it's a delicacy and some abhor it. Meat flavor depends on the animal's diet, and racoons are known scavengers - so if it's eaten mostly corn, should be tasty like pork. Cook thoroughly. If it's been eating garbage and carrion, it will not be tasty, but may be better than nothing.

Cat or dog - if worse comes to worst, while you may not be able to face eating your own family pet, there may be a few strays that could fill the crock pot. Cat has more protein than dog, but is a rather stringy meat, and is best served ground up and made into patties. Dog meat should be served more like beef.

Horse is a popular dish in many countries, and can be served just like beef.

Venison, bison, sheep, goats, llamas, wild hogs, cattle - whatever animal you find on the loose is "fair game" and should be considered.

Fish, shellfish, crayfish, etc. as available also a great source of protein.

Who wants to tackle bugs and plants? Please feel free to add additional input!

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buy any book on edible wild plants and keep it close..there's all kinds of good plants to eat if you can identify them.
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I read once that ANY of the grasses is edible by humans and will not harm. That would include wild rice which is actually a type of grass. Obviously this is not a well rounded diet but it could be life saving to know. Hope it doesn't come to that...
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I agree by the books they have them about how to cook every animal and about the diffrent plants you can eat and how to prepare it. Poke weed is edible if in a crunch.
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[link to www.wilderness-survival.net]

[link to www.surviveoutdoors.com]
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I have 200 acre farm a couple miles from the ocean. PLenty of seeds to plant, I have an apple, pear, and cherry tree on the property. I have a grape vine along with walnut and pecan trees.

Chickens, hogs, and cows can be on this farm within 5 minutes of me reaching this property.

I finally had a whole house solar an geothermal system put in to the rancher on my property. I am now looking a wind just for the fun of it and you can never have to many ways to make electric.
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bump For interest..................
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I found this website about bugs you can eat, crickets and grasshoppers, mosquito eggs, and termites and ants are just a few tasty bugs on the menu [link to webecoist.com]
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Who wants to tackle bugs and plants? Please feel free to add additional input!
 Quoting: germanbini




You forgot "long pig". When TSHTF, it will be open season on bureaucrats, politicians and banksters. No bag limit!! In fact, hides may be eligible for reward.

Bon Appétit. :-)
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And after I posted I thought "long pork" would show up as #3. Good job guys.

I think I'd rather eat grasshoppers first, but I hope I'm never in that situation! cool2
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I have over 200 snares I use to use for trapping...can catch any critter in them bad boys..light and take up very little room..I can catch anything from rabbits, coons, birds ect...

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Chives have more nutrients and vitamins A, C, E than all of those animals.
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Grasshoppers are lovely, you can even get Bacon & Cheese flavour. Nice. :)
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Crickets are able to be tank grown.
All they require to feed them are oats.
They live for a few months.
Taste as green peppers.

ETA: Behead them then freeze.
They'll keep for 3 months until add to a pasta stir fry.
Feed heads to fish or something.

Could begin with those right outside rather than buy if you have both sexes.

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Who wants to tackle bugs and plants? Please feel free to add additional input!




You forgot "long pig". When TSHTF, it will be open season on bureaucrats, politicians and banksters. No bag limit!! In fact, hides may be eligible for reward.

Bon Appétit. :-)
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It would still be wise to not over harvest your area.
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Cool thread, 5 stars!

Thanks!
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Cool thread, 5 stars!

Thanks!
 Quoting: neverfear


Thanks for the stars. hugs

I don't know much about insects, though I know some are more edible than others. Most insects are high in protein. Earthworms can be cleaned and fried, thanks to the poster that mentioned crickets, and grasshoppers or locusts can also be eaten fried as well. Remove legs!

Here's some great info I found online at [link to adventure.howstuffworks.com]

Most insects are edible. Unfortunately, there isn't a dead giveaway to tell if a bug is edible unless you know what you're doing. However, there are some general guidelines you can use to help you decide. One rule of thumb that survival experts endorse is to steer clear of brightly colored insects. Like on amphibians, bright colors are usually an insect's way of saying, "Avoid me, please." You should heed their advice. Insects that are extremely pungent are also good to keep off your plate. Some wilderness experts will caution against hairy critters as well as bugs that bite or sting. Disease carriers like flies, ticks, and mosquitos are also on the no list.
But for every rule, there are exceptions. The tomato worm is bright green and perfectly safe to eat. Caterpillars are edible for the most part, but maybe you should stay away from the hairy, colorful ones. Tarantulas are hairy too, but are roasted and eaten in some countries. Black ants are edible, but their fiery cousins aren't. Stinging bugs like bees and wasps are edible and known for being quite tasty. The same can be said for scorpions. People eat venomous snakes, so why not? There are even varieties of flies and mosquitoes (and the mosquito larvae can be dried and eaten) that you can eat.

All in all, there are 15 orders of edible insects:

Anoplura - lice
Orthoptera - grasshoppers, crickets and cockroaches
Hemiptera - true bugs
Homoptera - cicadas and treehoppers
Hymenoptera - bees, ants and wasps
Diptera - flies and mosquitoes
Coleoptera - beetles
Lepidoptera - butterflies and moths
Megaloptera - alderflies and dobsonflies
Odonata - dragonflies and damselflies
Ephemetoptera - mayflies
Trichoptera - caddisflies
Plecoptera - stoneflies
Neuroptera - lacewings and antlions
Isoptera - termites

The trick to eating any insect is to cook it. Even if a bug has harmful toxins or venom, a good boiling will usually negate the effect. Insects with hard shells like beetles can contain parasites, but if cooked are safe to eat. Even if you're in a survival situation, you should be able to get a fire going. This means you can boil, roast or smoke the insects you eat. Aside from making them safe to ingest, cooking them also improves the taste. Ants, for example, have a distinct vinegar taste until they're boiled. Another way to improve your dining experience is by removing the wings and legs from your meal. They don't contain much nutritional value anyway. You can also remove the head.
Many times the insects themselves are edible, but what they've been eating isn't. It takes a little while for insects to digest, so if they recently ate some leafy greens that were sprayed with pesticide, those chemicals are now inside their body. Locusts that have been doused with insecticide often have saliva at the corners of their mouths. Cook these insects or purge them by feeding them fresh greens -- 24 hours should do it. You should also stick to live insects because you can never be sure what killed the dead ones. You can take care of the killing part yourself by cooking or freezing them.
So if you're in a survival situation, play it safe. There are plenty of worms, grubs, termites, crickets and beetles in any wilderness area. Stick with these and you'll be fine.


Does anyone have more input on how to prepare bugs?

Here are a few additional websites with more info about entomophagy:

[link to adventure.howstuffworks.com]

[link to webecoist.com]

Last Edited by germanbini on 04/30/2010 01:20 PM
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Caterpillar are usually poisonous. I wouldn't mess with them.

Plus harming the butterfly world.
Butterflies pollinate many wild food plants.
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great info
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Do we have any experts on wild foods that can give us some pointers? I get a lot of information online.

WARNING

The critical factor in using plants for food is to avoid accidental poisoning. Eat only those plants you can positively identify and you know are safe to eat.






(Many more videos available in the 'Eat the Weeds' series at YouTube or [link to www.EatTheWeeds.com] )

Some types of plants that in my opinion are easily recognized and edible include:

Dandelion greens (young ones are the tastiest, can be used in salads, soups, or stir-fried - older ones are still edible but can be bitter).

Wild rice [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Amaranth [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Ramps (wild leeks) [link to southernfood.about.com]

Cattails - can be eaten as a green shoot in spring and summer, and the roots eaten in fall/winter. Dig up the roots, wash, grate, and boil and then use the pulp as a starchy vegetable. [link to www.wildmanstevebrill.com]

Please share with us your knowledge about your wild plant ideas! hf

additional websites: [link to www.essortment.com]
[link to www.wilderness-survival.net]

Last Edited by germanbini on 05/01/2010 03:19 PM
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Does anyone on GLP eat wild foods now? Please give us your help and advice! hf
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Resurrecting this thread to post that we tried lambs quarters tonight with dinner - it was delicious!!!! Who ever knew that this "weed" was so wonderful - way too good to keep feeding to our chickens. Granted it is a bother to pull the leaves, but wow, it's free and tasty food!

PLUS, according to the USDA, lambs quarters is the #1 most nutritious food, ahead of collards, spinach and broccoli!

[link to www.earthgoodsnaturalfoods.com]

[link to www.veggiegardeningtips.com]



edited to add: good news, it's also resistant to weed killers, so should be around a while!

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One way to get insect protein into the diet of the squeamish...

Catch a bunch of grasshoppers/locusts, dry them throughly in a low oven or covered pot on top of the wood stove, remove legs and wing/wing covers, and crush them to powder with a mortar and pestle. Add the protein powder to soups and stews, and whole grain breads.

And no, I haven't tried it. At least, not that I have known...

hf
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One way to get insect protein into the diet of the squeamish...

Catch a bunch of grasshoppers/locusts, dry them throughly in a low oven or covered pot on top of the wood stove, remove legs and wing/wing covers, and crush them to powder with a mortar and pestle. Add the protein powder to soups and stews, and whole grain breads.

And no, I haven't tried it. At least, not that I have known...

hf
 Quoting: lynleo 768376

Actually I read a short story about this type of thing regarding the use of june bugs. Apparently if a person is too ill to keep food down, the roasted june bug can be smashed and mixed with water for a tasty broth, which may help a person get better after a serious illness.

[link to www.wwmag.net]
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I can understand everything except for the eating of....mosquito eggs. Somehow that's right up in there of the Gross Department.
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Just about anything on 4 legs you can eat.. Plant's? Iffy without knowing how to identify bad ones..

So riddle me this? How long would it take 340,000,000 people to eat up every wild animal and plant in the united states?

I'd guess only months.. Most of our endangered species act was written during the great depression and the majority lived on working farms.. Today? Very few live on working farms..