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Friday, April 30, ten days after the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon:

Governor Charlie Crist announced a state of emergency for the Panhandle counties.

Attorney General Bill McCollum issued a statement regarding meeting with Attorneys General from Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana tomorrow to discuss shared impacts and explore legal options.

President Obama shelves new offshore oil drilling until proper safety measures can be provided.

A leaked report from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Emergency Ops document dated April 28 has the Coast Guard preparing for a worst case release that could potentially become an unchecked gusher meaning that instead of releasing 5,000 barrels a day or 210,000 gallons a day, it would release 50,000 barrels a day, or 2.1 million gallons a day.

"The following is not public," reads the report, "Two additional release points were found today. If the riser pipe deteriorates further, the flow could become unchecked resulting in a release volume an order of magnitude higher than previously thought."

The concern is that kinks in the piping and a deteriorating wellhead is what is currently controlling the flow to 5,000 barrels a day. The other concern is that sand which is an integral part of the formations that normally holds the oil under the Gulf is essentially sandblasting the pipe. The formation that was being drilled by the Deepwater Horizon is reported to have tens of millions of barrels of oil.

"The loss of a wellhead, this is totally unprecedented," said Ron Gouget, a former oil spill response coordinator for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. "How bad it could get from that, you will have a tremendous volume of oil that is going to be offgassing on the coast. Depending on how much wind is there, and how those gases build up, that's a significant health concern."

"We'll take help from anyone," Doug Suttles, chief operating officer of BP's exploration and production unit, said on NBC's TODAY show.

"We're not interested in where the idea comes from, what we're interested in is how do we stop this flow and how do we stop it now?" Suttles said.

So, as the four Gulf Atlantic states, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida brace for the oncoming oil slick that is pouring from the ocean's floor spewing more than 5,000 barrels or 210,000 gallons a day, it is ironic to recall President Obama's comment just last week, "It turns out, by the way, that oil rigs today generally don't cause spills."

Friday, April 30, President Obama announced that he will be shelving any new offshore oil drilling until rigs have new safeguards to prevent a repeat of the explosion and the devastation being caused by the massive oil spill that is threatening to be the worse than any in our history and if the wellhead is lost perhaps the world.

The leak erupted when the Deepwater Horizon platform approximately 50 miles offshore sank April 22, two days after a huge explosion on April 20 that killed 11 workers, forming a giant oil slick that threatens to pollute Louisiana's fragile wetlands. This could be Florida's headlines and considering that Governor Charlie Crist just issued a state of emergency for the panhandle region of the state it might be by tomorrow. Ten days later and BP officials are stating that it may take up to ninety days to fully cap the leak.

it is difficult to conceive that BP could not anticipate that an oil rig engulfed in flames would sink and cause further damage. Preparation for what might happen next to the worst case scenario should have been expected, and proactive rather than reactive measures should have been in place almost immediately. The company is today ramping up preparations for a major protection and cleaning effort on the shorelines of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida. Houma, Louisiana, the incident command post which is over seeing the offshore containment effort and onshore response in Louisiana, BP is now establishing a similar onshore incident command post in Mobile, Alabama to oversee the onshore response in Mississippi, Alabama and Florida.

Work will continue to complete installing marine protection booms along the coast. As well as 180,000 feet of boom already in the water, an additional 300,000 feet is staged or in the process of being deployed, with more on the way.

"In the past few days I have seen the full extent of BP's global resources and capability being brought to bear on this problem, and welcome the offers of further assistance we have had from government agencies, oil companies and members of the public to defend the shoreline and fight this spill. We are determined to succeed." said BP Group Chief Executive Tony Hayward.

Preliminary estimates indicate that current efforts to contain the spill and secure the well are costing the MC252 owners about $6 million per day with those costs expected to rise exponentially. To follow BP efforts to deal with this environmental crisis, www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com .

According to a report "Potential Impacts of Oil & Gas Exploration in the Gulf", dated February 2010, that was prepared by the Collins Center for Public Policy for presentation to the Century Commission for a Sustainable Florida, it was estimated that Florida would produce less than one week's worth of national consumption or about 110 million barrels.

Floridians have been reassured that our tourist business would not suffer visual "pollution" from an offshore oil rig as it would be under the ocean and too far away to be visible. This, we have been told, is because the technology is so advanced that this is possible. So if this same thinking is true then why would it take ten days for them to determine that the oil spill is serious and then require an additional ninety days to stop? This does not sound like very advanced technology in action. It sounds like wishful thinking hoping that a 2009 report by the U.S. Minerals and Management Service ('Oil leaking from well at rig blast site" by Cain Burdeau, Miami Herald 4.25.10) which states that human error has been the cause of almost every oil spill isn't true. It has also been shown by various investigations that the oil rigs are not currently being built to the level that is required for safe operation.

Considering human error is a major factor in oil spill accidents, it seems unlikely that this will be the last disaster that we will see. Drilling for oil is an idea that has come and perhaps should be reconsidered, to both stop the expansion of oil drilling as well phase out current operations.

As Americans we react when a crisis hits. Until then we are too often complacent settled into the routine of our lives without considering the ramifications of larger issues until it is driven home in a personal way. Perhaps it takes a boat to permanently scar the Great barrier Reef for two miles or for a huge oil rig to explode, collapse into the ocean setting off an oil spill of ever increasing magnitude.

The idea that President Obama has decided that this is a "bridge" approach to releasing us from our dependence on foreign oil and making us safer from terrorism until the renewable energy technology catches up is not going to work. There needs to be a dramatic shift from fossil fuel as a mainstay to meet our overly presumptuous energy needs and switch the need to renewables that at the worst might hit some one over the head with a solar panel. It cannot be gradual, it must be dramatic, a committed well thought out speaking to the right people who are not motivated by profit but by what is right and the picture in Louisiana couldn't be more wrong.

Whether done for the right reasons or the wrong ones, when the legislative session for Florida recently dropped the bill pursuing lifting the moratorium for offshore oil drilling it sent a very clear message that this was not acceptable. The people made a hard choice (shame on you in the middle of the state who almost unilaterally voted for the drilling, you don't go to the ocean so you don't care?), and said no. With the current oil spill disaster that seems to increase in severity by the hour there is again a clear message being sent that this is not a resource to fill our energy needs. We cannot afford the environmental, economic and social damage done by these kind of natural disasters. Even if BP pays back the federal government for the costs of stopping and reversing the current damage, it has taxed the system in ways that are difficult or nearly impossible to pay back.

An additional statement by Attorney General Bill McCollum today is one that we all hope is long remembered after this incident. "This mishap is an unfortunate example of why drilling threatens our state's most precious resources - our pristine beaches, our vast wetlands, and countless other environmental treasures. Until technology advances, we must continue to be extraordinarily cautious with our consideration of any proposal that would further jeopardize our beaches and our environment for future generations."

Signs sometimes appear subtlety; other times it is the hit-you-over-the-head kind. It seems that a massive oil spill not long after President Obama expressed his intentions to expand offshore oil and gas drilling seems auspicious.

President Obama won the Nobel Peace prize because of the idea of a promise of what he can do not what he has yet done. It is time for him to earn this most coveted of prizes and reconsider his position as to the pathway to release the United States from the grip of oil terrorism. Be the president we voted you to be, find a better way, a sustainable way, the world is watching.

Want the "cherry" on top? A second oil rig has overturned in the Charenton channel near Morgan City, Louisiana. So far, no injuries or oil spill have been reported. The vessel has a 20,000 gallon diesel fuel capacity. Even the environmental watchdog on high has a wry sense of humor.

Locally, we have stated that offshore oil drilling along the coast of Florida is not acceptable with Hands Across the Sand, Rally for Clean Beaches and cities like Davie, Fort lauderdale and more passing ordinances opposing lifting the moratorium on offshore oil drilling.
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Does anyone know how much oil is actually in the well?

How much oil could possibly spill out if it were to empty?
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This article is bullshit.
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Man when this starts hitting coast lines it will be a fucking nightmare.
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It is? Why?

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The US Coast Guard now fears the underwater oil well spewing crude into the Gulf of Mexico could become an unchecked gusher shooting millions of litres of oil a day, the Mobile Press-Register reported on Saturday.

Citing a confidential National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration report on the unfolding spill disaster, the Alabama newspaper said two additional release points had been found in the tangled pipe.

"If the riser pipe deteriorates further, the flow could become unchecked, resulting in a release volume an order of magnitude higher than previously thought," the paper quotes the report as saying.
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Asked on Friday to comment on the document, NOAA spokesman Scott Smullen said that the additional leaks were reported to the public late on Wednesday, newspaper said.

Regarding the possibility of the spill becoming an order of magnitude larger, Mr Smullen said, "I'm letting the document you have speak for itself."

In scientific circles, an order of magnitude means something that is 10 times larger, the paper said.

In this case, it would mean the volume of oil coming from the well could be 10 times higher than the 5000 barrels a day coming out now, the newspaper concluded.

That would mean 50,000 barrels a day, or about 8 million litres a day.
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IF this well is flowing 5,000bbls a day that's considered a lot. But if that's 50,000bbls/day that's UNHEARD OF. Think of the magnitude...at 80.00/bbl that would be 4,000,000.00/day. I truly DOUBT the validity of this statement.
Oh, almost forgot, I was raised in and worked in the oil field the majority of my life.
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Leaked report: Government fears Deepwater Horizon well could become unchecked gusher
By Ben Raines
April 30, 2010, 2:18PM
spillnewser.jpgView full size(AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano uses a map of the Gulf of Mexico during the daily press briefing at the White House in Washington, Thursday, April 29, 2010. A leaked memorandum obtained by the Press-Register on the unfolding spill disaster in the Gulf makes clear the Coast Guard now fears the Deepwater Horizon well site could be on the verge of becoming an unchecked gusher shooting millions of gallons of oil per day into the Gulf. 'The following is not public' document states

A confidential government report on the unfolding spill disaster makes clear the Coast Guard now fears the well could be on the verge of becoming an unchecked gusher shooting millions of gallons of oil per day into the Gulf. A confidential government report on the unfolding spill disaster in the Gulf makes clear the Coast Guard now fears the well could become an unchecked gusher shooting millions of gallons of oil per day into the Gulf.

"The following is not public," reads the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Emergency Response document dated April 28. "Two additional release points were found today in the tangled riser. If the riser pipe deteriorates further, the flow could become unchecked resulting in a release volume an order of magnitude higher than previously thought."

Asked Friday to comment on the document, NOAA spokesman Scott Smullen said that the additional leaks described were reported to the public late Wednesday night. Regarding the possibility of the spill becoming an order of magnitude larger, Smullen said, "I'm letting the document you have speak for itself."

In scientific circles, an order of magnitude means something is 10 times larger. In this case, an order of magnitude higher would mean the volume of oil coming from the well could be 10 times higher than the 5,000 barrels a day coming out now. That would mean 50,000 barrels a day, or 2.1 million gallons a day. It appears the new leaks mentioned in the Wednesday release are the leaks reported to the public late Wednesday night.

"There is no official change in the volume released but the USCG is no longer stating that the release rate is 1,000 barrels a day," continues the document, referred to as report No. 12. "Instead they are saying that they are preparing for a worst-case release and bringing all assets to bear."

The emergency document also states that the spill has grown in size so quickly that only 1 to 2 percent of it has been sprayed with dispersants.

The Press-Register obtained the emergency report from a government official. The White House, NOAA, the Coast Guard and BP Plc did not immediately return calls for comment made early this morning.

The worst-case scenario for the broken andduhing well pouring oil into the Gulf of Mexico would be the loss of the wellhead and kinked piping currently restricting the flow to 5,000 barrels -- or 210,000 gallons -- per day.

If the wellhead is lost, oil could leave the well at a much greater rate.

"Typically, a very good well in the Gulf can produce 30,000 barrels a day, but that's under control. I have no idea what an uncontrolled release could be," said Stephen Sears, chairman of the petroleum engineering department at Louisiana State University.

On Thursday, federal officials said they were preparing for the worst-case scenario but didn't elaborate.

Kinks in the piping created as the rig sank to the seafloor may be all that is preventing the Deepwater Horizon well from releasing its maximum flow. BP is now drilling a relief well as the ultimate fix. The company said Thursday that process would take up to 3 months.
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"I'm not sure what's happening down there right now. I have heard there is a kink in what's called the riser. The riser is a long pipe that connects the wellhead to the rig. I really don't know if that kink is a big restriction. Is that really a big restriction? There could be another restriction further down," said LSU's Sears.

"An analogy would be if you have a kink in a garden hose. You suspect that kink is restricting the flow, but there could be another restriction or kink somewhere else closer to the faucet.

BP Plc executive Doug Suttles said Thursday the company was worried about "erosion" of the pipe at the wellhead.

Sand is an integral part of the formations that hold oil under the Gulf. That sand, carried in the oil as it shoots through the piping, is blamed for the ongoing erosion described by BP.

"The pipe could disintegrate. You've got sand getting into the pipe, it's eroding the pipe all the time, like a sandblaster," said Ron Gouget, a former oil spill response coordinator for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

oilinhand.jpgView full size(AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)Oil scooped up from the Gulf of Mexico 17 miles southeast of the South Pass of the Mississippi River is seen on the hand of deck hand Jordan Ellis on the Louisiana coast Friday, April 30, 2010. The oil originated from a leaking pipeline after last week's explosion and collapse of the Deepwater Horizon."When the oil is removed normally, it comes out at a controlled rate. You can still have abrasive particles in that. Well, now, at this well, its coming out at fairly high velocity," Gouget continued. "Any erosive grains are abrading the inside of the pipe and all the steel that comes in contact with the liquid. It's essentially sanding away the pipe."

Gouget said the loss of a wellhead is totally unprecedented.

"How bad it could get from that, you will have a tremendous volume of oil that is going to be offgassing on the coast. Depending on how much wind is there, and how those gases build up, that's a significant health concern," he said.

The formation that was being drilled by Deepwater Horizon when it exploded and sank last week is reported to have tens of millions of barrels of oil. A barrel contains 42 gallons.

Smullen described the NOAA document as a regular daily briefing. "Your report makes it sound pretty dire. It's a scenario," he said, "It's a regular daily briefing sheet that considered different scenarios much like any first responder would."

(Updated 5:57 p.m. to add response from NOAA spokesman.)

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Does anyone know how much oil is actually in the well?

How much oil could possibly spill out if it were to empty?
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what I read is 10's of millions of barrels


they never know the total amount will produce

they think they know but they never do


they put 10 years of production on the north slope

in the 70s
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IF this well is flowing 5,000bbls a day that's considered a lot. But if that's 50,000bbls/day that's UNHEARD OF. Think of the magnitude...at 80.00/bbl that would be 4,000,000.00/day. I truly DOUBT the validity of this statement.
Oh, almost forgot, I was raised in and worked in the oil field the majority of my life.
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They said if it continues to deteriorate it could become 50,000 barrels a day..
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There could be like 300 million barrels of oil in this well alone. Jesus what a disaster.
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Does anyone know how much oil is actually in the well?

How much oil could possibly spill out if it were to empty?


what I read is 10's of millions of barrels


they never know the total amount will produce

they think they know but they never do



10s of millions of barrels? think before you talk... even at 50,000 barrels a day * 10 days is half a million barrels.. not 10 million

they put 10 years of production on the north slope

in the 70s
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Does anyone know how much oil is actually in the well?

How much oil could possibly spill out if it were to empty?


what I read is 10's of millions of barrels


they never know the total amount will produce

they think they know but they never do



10s of millions of barrels? think before you talk... even at 50,000 barrels a day * 10 days is half a million barrels.. not 10 million

they put 10 years of production on the north slope

in the 70s

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He was saying how much could be in the well...

Not how much has spilled
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There are BILLIONS of barrels of oil in the deep water of the Lower Tertiary Trend in the Gulf of Mexico.

This articles is from 2006:

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Oil analysts and company executives said newly released test results from a well 175 miles off the coast of Louisiana indicate that the oil industry will be able to recover well more than 3 billion barrels, and perhaps as much as 15 billion barrels, of oil from a geological area known as the lower tertiary trend, making it the biggest addition to U.S. petroleum reserves in decades. The upper end of the estimate could boost U.S. reserves by 50 percent.
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There are BILLIONS of barrels of oil in the deep water of the Lower Tertiary Trend in the Gulf of Mexico.

This articles is from 2006:

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Oil analysts and company executives said newly released test results from a well 175 miles off the coast of Louisiana indicate that the oil industry will be able to recover well more than 3 billion barrels, and perhaps as much as 15 billion barrels, of oil from a geological area known as the lower tertiary trend, making it the biggest addition to U.S. petroleum reserves in decades. The upper end of the estimate could boost U.S. reserves by 50 percent.
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5a Let her run wide open!!
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More info:

The Well that exploded was the Deepwater Horizon well that was drilled on the Tiber Oilfield.

"The Tiber oilfield is a deepwater offshore oilfield in the Gulf of Mexico, discovered by BP in September 2009. Described as a "giant" find,[2] it is estimated to contain 4 to 6 billion barrels (640×10^6 to 950×10^6 m3) of oil in place[3], although BP states it is too early to be sure of the size[2] - a "huge" field is usually considered to contain 250 million barrels (40×10^6 m3). It required the drilling of a 10,685-metre (35,056 ft) deep well under 1,260 metres (4,130 ft) of water,[4] making it one of the deepest wells drilled at the time of discovery[4] (the drilling rig's owner states "the deepest ever".[5])"

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There is your answer^.
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Goddamn..
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More info:

The Well that exploded was the Deepwater Horizon well that was drilled on the Tiber Oilfield.

"The Tiber oilfield is a deepwater offshore oilfield in the Gulf of Mexico, discovered by BP in September 2009. Described as a "giant" find,[2] it is estimated to contain 4 to 6 billion barrels (640×10^6 to 950×10^6 m3) of oil in place[3], although BP states it is too early to be sure of the size[2] - a "huge" field is usually considered to contain 250 million barrels (40×10^6 m3). It required the drilling of a 10,685-metre (35,056 ft) deep well under 1,260 metres (4,130 ft) of water,[4] making it one of the deepest wells drilled at the time of discovery[4] (the drilling rig's owner states "the deepest ever".[5])"

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There is your answer^.
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Ouch!
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Hold on just a freakin' second...

If there is that much oil from just that one well, wtf are we paying 3$ a gallon of gas for?

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Does anyone know how much oil is actually in the well?

How much oil could possibly spill out if it were to empty?
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TENS OF MILLIONS:

Remember this:

"BP Plc executive Doug Suttles said Thursday the company was worried about "erosion" of the pipe at the wellhead.

Sand is an integral part of the formations that hold oil under the Gulf. That sand, carried in the oil as it shoots through the piping, is blamed for the ongoing erosion described by BP.

"The pipe could disintegrate. You've got sand getting into the pipe, it's eroding the pipe all the time, like a sandblaster," said Ron Gouget, a former oil spill response coordinator for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

"When the oil is removed normally, it comes out at a controlled rate. You can still have abrasive particles in that. Well, now, at this well, its coming out at fairly high velocity," Gouget continued. "Any erosive grains are abrading the inside of the pipe and all the steel that comes in contact with the liquid. It's essentially sanding away the pipe."

Gouget said the loss of a wellhead is totally unprecedented.

"How bad it could get from that, you will have a tremendous volume of oil that is going to be offgassing on the coast. Depending on how much wind is there, and how those gases build up, that's a significant health concern," he said.

The formation that was being drilled by Deepwater Horizon when it exploded and sank last week is reported to have TENS OF MILLIONS of barrels of oil. A barrel contains 42 gallons.

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OH yEAH and they think there are "kinks" in the well pipe that is actually preventing it from spewing it's maximum amount...
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Does anyone know how much oil is actually in the well?

How much oil could possibly spill out if it were to empty?
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it's a vain in mother earth that is bowling out... not a 'well' it could go on until the end of time, if they don't plug the thing...
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Rev 9:

1 Then the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star from heaven which had fallen to the earth; and the key of the bottomless pit was given to him. 2 He opened the bottomless pit, and smoke went up out of the pit, like the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by the smoke of the pit.



[link to www.eslpod.com]

imagine that completely engulfed in fire, falling into the ocean and remember that a person is just a tiny speck.

Rev 8:

8 The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, 9a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.


I am one that believes in Metaphors in Revelation and believes that John only tried to accurately write down what he saw.
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Does anyone know how much oil is actually in the well?

How much oil could possibly spill out if it were to empty?

it's a vain in mother earth that is bowling out... not a 'well' it could go on until the end of time, if they don't plug the thing...
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EXACTLY!
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Rev 9:

1 Then the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star from heaven which had fallen to the earth; and the key of the bottomless pit was given to him. 2 He opened the bottomless pit, and smoke went up out of the pit, like the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by the smoke of the pit.



[link to www.eslpod.com]

imagine that completely engulfed in fire, falling into the ocean and remember that a person is just a tiny speck.

Rev 8:

8 The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, 9a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.


I am one that believes in Metaphors in Revelation and believes that John only tried to accurately write down what he saw.
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Yep, this is it, unfolding before our eyes..:(
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05/01/2010 11:45 AM

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Re: New report says oil spill could be 50,000 barrells a day
IF this well is flowing 5,000bbls a day that's considered a lot. But if that's 50,000bbls/day that's UNHEARD OF. Think of the magnitude...at 80.00/bbl that would be 4,000,000.00/day. I truly DOUBT the validity of this statement.
Oh, almost forgot, I was raised in and worked in the oil field the majority of my life.
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How much experience do you have with deep water drilling? I can imagine the pressure dynamics are considerably different, especially since it is escaping from the sea floor.

I could also imagine that the only way to stop the flow if the well head has disintegrated would be to detonate a large amount of explosives around the site directly on the sea floor.
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05/01/2010 11:48 AM
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Re: New report says oil spill could be 50,000 barrells a day
CNN just announced it's believed to be 1.6 million already
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Re: New report says oil spill could be 50,000 barrells a day
50,000 barrels/day = 2,100,000 gallons/day
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05/01/2010 11:50 AM
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Re: New report says oil spill could be 50,000 barrells a day
Hold on just a freakin' second...

If there is that much oil from just that one well, wtf are we paying 3$ a gallon of gas for?

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This could be the BIGGEST environmental disaster of all time and all you care about is how much you are paying for gas?
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05/01/2010 11:51 AM
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Re: New report says oil spill could be 50,000 barrells a day
There are BILLIONS of barrels of oil in the deep water of the Lower Tertiary Trend in the Gulf of Mexico.

This articles is from 2006:

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]


Oil analysts and company executives said newly released test results from a well 175 miles off the coast of Louisiana indicate that the oil industry will be able to recover well more than 3 billion barrels, and perhaps as much as 15 billion barrels, of oil from a geological area known as the lower tertiary trend, making it the biggest addition to U.S. petroleum reserves in decades. The upper end of the estimate could boost U.S. reserves by 50 percent.
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OMFG!!!!

Really people, I know this sounds kooky but just fucking imagine this for one second...

3 Billion barrels of oil added to the oceans world wide...

End of the world!!!
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05/01/2010 11:53 AM
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Re: New report says oil spill could be 50,000 barrells a day
More info:

The Well that exploded was the Deepwater Horizon well that was drilled on the Tiber Oilfield.

"The Tiber oilfield is a deepwater offshore oilfield in the Gulf of Mexico, discovered by BP in September 2009. Described as a "giant" find,[2] it is estimated to contain 4 to 6 billion barrels (640×10^6 to 950×10^6 m3) of oil in place[3], although BP states it is too early to be sure of the size[2] - a "huge" field is usually considered to contain 250 million barrels (40×10^6 m3). It required the drilling of a 10,685-metre (35,056 ft) deep well under 1,260 metres (4,130 ft) of water,[4] making it one of the deepest wells drilled at the time of discovery[4] (the drilling rig's owner states "the deepest ever".[5])"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


There is your answer^.
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