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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 942322 ![]() 05/01/2010 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ![]() This article is bullshit. It is? Why? [link to www.smh.com.au] Gulf of Mexico oil gush 'could increase 10 times' Producing Oil & Gas Properties, IRA 401K Qualified, $25K Min, Dividends USEnergyAssets.com The US Coast Guard now fears the underwater oil well spewing crude into the Gulf of Mexico could become an unchecked gusher shooting millions of litres of oil a day, the Mobile Press-Register reported on Saturday. Citing a confidential National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration report on the unfolding spill disaster, the Alabama newspaper said two additional release points had been found in the tangled pipe. "If the riser pipe deteriorates further, the flow could become unchecked, resulting in a release volume an order of magnitude higher than previously thought," the paper quotes the report as saying. Advertisement: Story continues below Asked on Friday to comment on the document, NOAA spokesman Scott Smullen said that the additional leaks were reported to the public late on Wednesday, newspaper said. Regarding the possibility of the spill becoming an order of magnitude larger, Mr Smullen said, "I'm letting the document you have speak for itself." In scientific circles, an order of magnitude means something that is 10 times larger, the paper said. In this case, it would mean the volume of oil coming from the well could be 10 times higher than the 5000 barrels a day coming out now, the newspaper concluded. That would mean 50,000 barrels a day, or about 8 million litres a day. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 942322 ![]() 05/01/2010 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to blog.al.com] Leaked report: Government fears Deepwater Horizon well could become unchecked gusher By Ben Raines April 30, 2010, 2:18PM spillnewser.jpgView full size(AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano uses a map of the Gulf of Mexico during the daily press briefing at the White House in Washington, Thursday, April 29, 2010. A leaked memorandum obtained by the Press-Register on the unfolding spill disaster in the Gulf makes clear the Coast Guard now fears the Deepwater Horizon well site could be on the verge of becoming an unchecked gusher shooting millions of gallons of oil per day into the Gulf. 'The following is not public' document states A confidential government report on the unfolding spill disaster makes clear the Coast Guard now fears the well could be on the verge of becoming an unchecked gusher shooting millions of gallons of oil per day into the Gulf. A confidential government report on the unfolding spill disaster in the Gulf makes clear the Coast Guard now fears the well could become an unchecked gusher shooting millions of gallons of oil per day into the Gulf. "The following is not public," reads the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Emergency Response document dated April 28. "Two additional release points were found today in the tangled riser. If the riser pipe deteriorates further, the flow could become unchecked resulting in a release volume an order of magnitude higher than previously thought." Asked Friday to comment on the document, NOAA spokesman Scott Smullen said that the additional leaks described were reported to the public late Wednesday night. Regarding the possibility of the spill becoming an order of magnitude larger, Smullen said, "I'm letting the document you have speak for itself." In scientific circles, an order of magnitude means something is 10 times larger. In this case, an order of magnitude higher would mean the volume of oil coming from the well could be 10 times higher than the 5,000 barrels a day coming out now. That would mean 50,000 barrels a day, or 2.1 million gallons a day. It appears the new leaks mentioned in the Wednesday release are the leaks reported to the public late Wednesday night. "There is no official change in the volume released but the USCG is no longer stating that the release rate is 1,000 barrels a day," continues the document, referred to as report No. 12. "Instead they are saying that they are preparing for a worst-case release and bringing all assets to bear." The emergency document also states that the spill has grown in size so quickly that only 1 to 2 percent of it has been sprayed with dispersants. The Press-Register obtained the emergency report from a government official. The White House, NOAA, the Coast Guard and BP Plc did not immediately return calls for comment made early this morning. The worst-case scenario for the broken andduhing well pouring oil into the Gulf of Mexico would be the loss of the wellhead and kinked piping currently restricting the flow to 5,000 barrels -- or 210,000 gallons -- per day. If the wellhead is lost, oil could leave the well at a much greater rate. "Typically, a very good well in the Gulf can produce 30,000 barrels a day, but that's under control. I have no idea what an uncontrolled release could be," said Stephen Sears, chairman of the petroleum engineering department at Louisiana State University. On Thursday, federal officials said they were preparing for the worst-case scenario but didn't elaborate. Kinks in the piping created as the rig sank to the seafloor may be all that is preventing the Deepwater Horizon well from releasing its maximum flow. BP is now drilling a relief well as the ultimate fix. The company said Thursday that process would take up to 3 months. View from above Gulf oil spill See continuing coverage of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill of 2010 on al.com and GulfLive.com. To keep track of the Gulf of Mexico oil slick, visit www.skytruth.org or follow its Twitter feed. To see updated projection maps related to the oil spill in the Gulf, visit the Deepwater Horizon Response Web site established by government officials. How to help: Volunteers eager to help cope with the spill and lessen its impact on the Gulf Coast environment and economy. "I'm not sure what's happening down there right now. I have heard there is a kink in what's called the riser. The riser is a long pipe that connects the wellhead to the rig. I really don't know if that kink is a big restriction. Is that really a big restriction? There could be another restriction further down," said LSU's Sears. "An analogy would be if you have a kink in a garden hose. You suspect that kink is restricting the flow, but there could be another restriction or kink somewhere else closer to the faucet. BP Plc executive Doug Suttles said Thursday the company was worried about "erosion" of the pipe at the wellhead. Sand is an integral part of the formations that hold oil under the Gulf. That sand, carried in the oil as it shoots through the piping, is blamed for the ongoing erosion described by BP. "The pipe could disintegrate. You've got sand getting into the pipe, it's eroding the pipe all the time, like a sandblaster," said Ron Gouget, a former oil spill response coordinator for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. oilinhand.jpgView full size(AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)Oil scooped up from the Gulf of Mexico 17 miles southeast of the South Pass of the Mississippi River is seen on the hand of deck hand Jordan Ellis on the Louisiana coast Friday, April 30, 2010. The oil originated from a leaking pipeline after last week's explosion and collapse of the Deepwater Horizon."When the oil is removed normally, it comes out at a controlled rate. You can still have abrasive particles in that. Well, now, at this well, its coming out at fairly high velocity," Gouget continued. "Any erosive grains are abrading the inside of the pipe and all the steel that comes in contact with the liquid. It's essentially sanding away the pipe." Gouget said the loss of a wellhead is totally unprecedented. "How bad it could get from that, you will have a tremendous volume of oil that is going to be offgassing on the coast. Depending on how much wind is there, and how those gases build up, that's a significant health concern," he said. The formation that was being drilled by Deepwater Horizon when it exploded and sank last week is reported to have tens of millions of barrels of oil. A barrel contains 42 gallons. Smullen described the NOAA document as a regular daily briefing. "Your report makes it sound pretty dire. It's a scenario," he said, "It's a regular daily briefing sheet that considered different scenarios much like any first responder would." (Updated 5:57 p.m. to add response from NOAA spokesman.) © 2010 al.com. All rights reserved. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 495883 ![]() 05/01/2010 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone know how much oil is actually in the well? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 942322How much oil could possibly spill out if it were to empty? what I read is 10's of millions of barrels they never know the total amount will produce they think they know but they never do they put 10 years of production on the north slope in the 70s |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 942322 ![]() 05/01/2010 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF this well is flowing 5,000bbls a day that's considered a lot. But if that's 50,000bbls/day that's UNHEARD OF. Think of the magnitude...at 80.00/bbl that would be 4,000,000.00/day. I truly DOUBT the validity of this statement. Quoting: dancerdocOh, almost forgot, I was raised in and worked in the oil field the majority of my life. They said if it continues to deteriorate it could become 50,000 barrels a day.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 933263 ![]() 05/01/2010 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone know how much oil is actually in the well? Quoting: IceHow much oil could possibly spill out if it were to empty? what I read is 10's of millions of barrels they never know the total amount will produce they think they know but they never do 10s of millions of barrels? think before you talk... even at 50,000 barrels a day * 10 days is half a million barrels.. not 10 million they put 10 years of production on the north slope in the 70s |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 942322 ![]() 05/01/2010 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone know how much oil is actually in the well? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 933263How much oil could possibly spill out if it were to empty? what I read is 10's of millions of barrels they never know the total amount will produce they think they know but they never do 10s of millions of barrels? think before you talk... even at 50,000 barrels a day * 10 days is half a million barrels.. not 10 million they put 10 years of production on the north slope in the 70s He was saying how much could be in the well... Not how much has spilled |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 958019 ![]() 05/01/2010 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are BILLIONS of barrels of oil in the deep water of the Lower Tertiary Trend in the Gulf of Mexico. This articles is from 2006: [link to www.washingtonpost.com] Oil analysts and company executives said newly released test results from a well 175 miles off the coast of Louisiana indicate that the oil industry will be able to recover well more than 3 billion barrels, and perhaps as much as 15 billion barrels, of oil from a geological area known as the lower tertiary trend, making it the biggest addition to U.S. petroleum reserves in decades. The upper end of the estimate could boost U.S. reserves by 50 percent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 958086 ![]() 05/01/2010 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are BILLIONS of barrels of oil in the deep water of the Lower Tertiary Trend in the Gulf of Mexico. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 958019This articles is from 2006: [link to www.washingtonpost.com] Oil analysts and company executives said newly released test results from a well 175 miles off the coast of Louisiana indicate that the oil industry will be able to recover well more than 3 billion barrels, and perhaps as much as 15 billion barrels, of oil from a geological area known as the lower tertiary trend, making it the biggest addition to U.S. petroleum reserves in decades. The upper end of the estimate could boost U.S. reserves by 50 percent. ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 958019 ![]() 05/01/2010 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More info: The Well that exploded was the Deepwater Horizon well that was drilled on the Tiber Oilfield. "The Tiber oilfield is a deepwater offshore oilfield in the Gulf of Mexico, discovered by BP in September 2009. Described as a "giant" find,[2] it is estimated to contain 4 to 6 billion barrels (640×10^6 to 950×10^6 m3) of oil in place[3], although BP states it is too early to be sure of the size[2] - a "huge" field is usually considered to contain 250 million barrels (40×10^6 m3). It required the drilling of a 10,685-metre (35,056 ft) deep well under 1,260 metres (4,130 ft) of water,[4] making it one of the deepest wells drilled at the time of discovery[4] (the drilling rig's owner states "the deepest ever".[5])" [link to en.wikipedia.org] There is your answer^. |
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Anonymous Coward 05/01/2010 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More info: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 958019The Well that exploded was the Deepwater Horizon well that was drilled on the Tiber Oilfield. "The Tiber oilfield is a deepwater offshore oilfield in the Gulf of Mexico, discovered by BP in September 2009. Described as a "giant" find,[2] it is estimated to contain 4 to 6 billion barrels (640×10^6 to 950×10^6 m3) of oil in place[3], although BP states it is too early to be sure of the size[2] - a "huge" field is usually considered to contain 250 million barrels (40×10^6 m3). It required the drilling of a 10,685-metre (35,056 ft) deep well under 1,260 metres (4,130 ft) of water,[4] making it one of the deepest wells drilled at the time of discovery[4] (the drilling rig's owner states "the deepest ever".[5])" [link to en.wikipedia.org] There is your answer^. Ouch! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 945648 ![]() 05/01/2010 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone know how much oil is actually in the well? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 942322How much oil could possibly spill out if it were to empty? TENS OF MILLIONS: Remember this: "BP Plc executive Doug Suttles said Thursday the company was worried about "erosion" of the pipe at the wellhead. Sand is an integral part of the formations that hold oil under the Gulf. That sand, carried in the oil as it shoots through the piping, is blamed for the ongoing erosion described by BP. "The pipe could disintegrate. You've got sand getting into the pipe, it's eroding the pipe all the time, like a sandblaster," said Ron Gouget, a former oil spill response coordinator for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. "When the oil is removed normally, it comes out at a controlled rate. You can still have abrasive particles in that. Well, now, at this well, its coming out at fairly high velocity," Gouget continued. "Any erosive grains are abrading the inside of the pipe and all the steel that comes in contact with the liquid. It's essentially sanding away the pipe." Gouget said the loss of a wellhead is totally unprecedented. "How bad it could get from that, you will have a tremendous volume of oil that is going to be offgassing on the coast. Depending on how much wind is there, and how those gases build up, that's a significant health concern," he said. The formation that was being drilled by Deepwater Horizon when it exploded and sank last week is reported to have TENS OF MILLIONS of barrels of oil. A barrel contains 42 gallons. [link to blog.al.com] |
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ceawaves User ID: 957340 ![]() 05/01/2010 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone know how much oil is actually in the well? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 942322How much oil could possibly spill out if it were to empty? it's a vain in mother earth that is bowling out... not a 'well' it could go on until the end of time, if they don't plug the thing... |
Sol Hyperion User ID: 697114 ![]() 05/01/2010 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rev 9: 1 Then the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star from heaven which had fallen to the earth; and the key of the bottomless pit was given to him. 2 He opened the bottomless pit, and smoke went up out of the pit, like the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by the smoke of the pit. [link to www.eslpod.com] imagine that completely engulfed in fire, falling into the ocean and remember that a person is just a tiny speck. Rev 8: 8 The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, 9a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed. I am one that believes in Metaphors in Revelation and believes that John only tried to accurately write down what he saw. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 862727 ![]() 05/01/2010 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone know how much oil is actually in the well? Quoting: ceawavesHow much oil could possibly spill out if it were to empty? it's a vain in mother earth that is bowling out... not a 'well' it could go on until the end of time, if they don't plug the thing... EXACTLY! |
ceawaves User ID: 957340 ![]() 05/01/2010 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rev 9: Quoting: Sol Hyperion1 Then the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star from heaven which had fallen to the earth; and the key of the bottomless pit was given to him. 2 He opened the bottomless pit, and smoke went up out of the pit, like the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by the smoke of the pit. [link to www.eslpod.com] imagine that completely engulfed in fire, falling into the ocean and remember that a person is just a tiny speck. Rev 8: 8 The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, 9a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed. I am one that believes in Metaphors in Revelation and believes that John only tried to accurately write down what he saw. Yep, this is it, unfolding before our eyes..:( |
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scimitar User ID: 599315 ![]() 05/01/2010 11:45 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF this well is flowing 5,000bbls a day that's considered a lot. But if that's 50,000bbls/day that's UNHEARD OF. Think of the magnitude...at 80.00/bbl that would be 4,000,000.00/day. I truly DOUBT the validity of this statement. Quoting: dancerdocOh, almost forgot, I was raised in and worked in the oil field the majority of my life. How much experience do you have with deep water drilling? I can imagine the pressure dynamics are considerably different, especially since it is escaping from the sea floor. I could also imagine that the only way to stop the flow if the well head has disintegrated would be to detonate a large amount of explosives around the site directly on the sea floor. Ominous regressions One Truth... many realities |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 954425 ![]() 05/01/2010 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hold on just a freakin' second... Quoting: Nyhee7 957912If there is that much oil from just that one well, wtf are we paying 3$ a gallon of gas for? ![]() This could be the BIGGEST environmental disaster of all time and all you care about is how much you are paying for gas? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 942322 ![]() 05/01/2010 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are BILLIONS of barrels of oil in the deep water of the Lower Tertiary Trend in the Gulf of Mexico. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 958019This articles is from 2006: [link to www.washingtonpost.com] Oil analysts and company executives said newly released test results from a well 175 miles off the coast of Louisiana indicate that the oil industry will be able to recover well more than 3 billion barrels, and perhaps as much as 15 billion barrels, of oil from a geological area known as the lower tertiary trend, making it the biggest addition to U.S. petroleum reserves in decades. The upper end of the estimate could boost U.S. reserves by 50 percent. OMFG!!!! Really people, I know this sounds kooky but just fucking imagine this for one second... 3 Billion barrels of oil added to the oceans world wide... End of the world!!! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 942322 ![]() 05/01/2010 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More info: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 958019The Well that exploded was the Deepwater Horizon well that was drilled on the Tiber Oilfield. "The Tiber oilfield is a deepwater offshore oilfield in the Gulf of Mexico, discovered by BP in September 2009. Described as a "giant" find,[2] it is estimated to contain 4 to 6 billion barrels (640×10^6 to 950×10^6 m3) of oil in place[3], although BP states it is too early to be sure of the size[2] - a "huge" field is usually considered to contain 250 million barrels (40×10^6 m3). It required the drilling of a 10,685-metre (35,056 ft) deep well under 1,260 metres (4,130 ft) of water,[4] making it one of the deepest wells drilled at the time of discovery[4] (the drilling rig's owner states "the deepest ever".[5])" [link to en.wikipedia.org] There is your answer^. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH We....are so........FUCKED!!!!!!!!! ![]() |