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Why the Gulf Oil Spill is THE Biggie

 
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This is from George Ure's Peoplenomics this morning, and it's too important not to share:

The Oil Mess

12 days into the oil rig 'accident' events continue to evolve and weather is slowing down efforts to contain things, we have two interesting items to report that are not in the MSM yet...OK, three then.



1. While there are many reports on the 'net that the rig disaster was an attack by a North Korean mini-sub, and other such fanciful things, we have heard that a supply ship arrived just before the explosions and it was reported to be 'manned by all new people, nobody aboard was from the 'usual supply crew'. This purported industry source continues: there were a total of 14 explosions and these could have been cutting charges. Moreover, the shut off valve below the surface (5000 feet down) on the seabed is not longer controllable. Still, lots of disinfo and speculation scampering around the netosphere. While this is bad, it gets worse.



2. A reader who is an engineer of considerable experience says watch this one evolve carefully because it is destined to continue to grow and he shares this long (but worthy explanation why:

"Heard your mention of the oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico this morning, and you (and most everyone else except maybe George Noory) are totally missing the boat on how big and bad of a disaster this is.

First fact, the original estimate was about 5,000 gallons of oil a day spilling into the ocean. Now they're saying 200,000 gallons a day. That's over a million gallons of crude oil a week!

I'm engineer with 25 years of experience. I've worked on some big projects with big machines. Maybe that's why this mess is so clear to me.

First, the BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink. Take a moment to grasp the import of that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.

When the rig sank it flipped over and landed on top of the drill hole some 5,000 feet under the ocean.

Now they've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of is spewing 200,000 barrels of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that, will you!

First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor? There just is no way. No way.

The only piece of human technology that might address this is a nuclear bomb. I'm not kidding. If they put a nuke down there in the right spot it might seal up the hole. Nothing short of that will work.

If we can't cap that hole that oil is going to destroy the oceans of the world. It only takes one quart of motor oil to make 250,000 gallons of ocean water toxic to wildlife. Are you starting to get the magnitude of this?

We're so used to our politicians creating false crises to forward their criminal agendas that we aren't recognizing that we're staring straight into possibly the greatest disaster mankind will ever see. Imagine what happens if that oil keeps flowing until it destroys all life in the oceans of this planet. Who knows how big of a reservoir of oil is down there.

Not to mention that the oceans are critical to maintaining the proper oxygen level in the atmosphere for human life.

We're humped. Unless God steps in and fixes this. No human can. You can be sure of that.

~ END of ORIGINAL POST ~

EDITED to Save Reading Time:::


I Thought the Ure letter was exposed as a fraud by a few posters

-The well is located and did NOT fall on the hole
-Bp is building a dome to catch the oil and put it in tankers -side drilling to ease the pressure..
-A nuke is not an option nor is one needed..
-200,000 gallons (barrels) a day is not true

DAJ..respond..hasn't the original letter's assertions been debunked



The debunkers are straining gnats and swallowing camels.

The POINT is the depth involved and the technology available to STOP the leak ~ the oil is potentially inexhaustible ~ this is not a self-limiting spill ~ this is coming straight from the source.

At a depth of 3,500 to 5,000 feet (neither is certain at this point) the only tech we have is ROVs. They are not all powerful, even IF the wellhead is not BLOCKED by debris. Raising the sunken platform will require cutting it to manageable sizes ~ the weights, and distances involved are straining the limits if not exceeding them.

The TIME factor is critical ~ and that too, is a point addressed by the OP ~ debunk him or her all you want but the points addressed make it clear the talking heads are talking about the WRONG thing.

Do the math ~ dealing with the contamination is directly proportional to dealing with the CAUSE ~ and they have not even begun to deal with the cause.


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Thanks Daj, nice read.
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What kind of damage would a nuke cause as well?
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Awesome read. It really puts it into perspective.
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No it is NOT a nice read. This is fucking awful. We don't actually want real doom.
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Ok, so we're fucked...
Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support!

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What kind of damage would a nuke cause as well?
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though I'm just speculating as a lay-person, I would guess a nuke could improve the situation...or make it much worse. It would be a crapshoot I think.
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While I believe that oil will disperse quicker than indicated.. it could be a localized ecological disaster and in turn economic disaster.
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What kind of damage would a nuke cause as well?
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Either way (oil and or a nuke) the Gulf is fucked, if not all the oceans...
Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support!

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This is it folks.

It really has begun.

The domino effect will become apparent very shortly.
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HEY BEASTS - what did you do, when the TRUTH was revealed by the LAST PROPHET?
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For the record, the only page as of today belongs to the same blog where the article of 2005, "Last glimpse of an age coming to an end - Satellite Photo", includes this photo
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"Coincidentally", what are the news from today? (1)

Did I read in those news that it begun with a sinking oil rig?
LAST PROPHET's words from 1998, with photo archived first 2002
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HHAHAHAH YOU GOT YOUR DOOM FAGS! ENJOY! I KNOW I AM!


KILL ALL OCEAN LIFE!
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So, if the oil gush can't be stopped soon, I wonder how long it would take to spread out to the Atlantic and other oceans?
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So what exactly are they thinking of doing? Are they seriously considering putting a nuke down there? What would happen if they did? Wouldn't that be just as toxic?
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So many ways to take down an empire without full frontal military conflict. Wonder if this was expected to expedite the agenda.....
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God, don't let them nuke it, please...


please.
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I hope this guy is wrong.

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I hope this guy is wrong.

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Do the math.

We may have high tech submersibles that can go that far down, but sadly, no magic.

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this is really sad.
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We're all gonna die.
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and the oceans turned black. wait til that space station falls from the sky. we r fuct.
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interesting, if outlandish theory from sorcha fail;

A grim report circulating in the Kremlin today written by Russia’s Northern Fleet is reporting that the United States has ordered a complete media blackout over North Korea’s torpedoing of the giant Deepwater Horizon oil platform owned by the World’s largest offshore drilling contractor Transocean that was built and financed by South Korea’s Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. Ltd., that has caused great loss of life, untold billions in economic damage to the South Korean economy, and an environmental catastrophe to the United States.
Most important to understand about this latest attack by North Korea against its South Korean enemy is that under the existing “laws of war” it was a permissible action as they remain in a state of war against each other due to South Korea’s refusal to sign the 1953 Armistice ending the Korean War.
To the attack itself, these reports continue, the North Korean “cargo vessel” Dai Hong Dan believed to be staffed by 17th Sniper Corps “suicide” troops left Cuba’s Empresa Terminales Mambisas de La Habana (Port of Havana) on April 18th whereupon it “severely deviated” from its intended course for Venezuela’s Puerto Cabello bringing it to within 209 kilometers (130 miles) of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform which was located 80 kilometers (50 miles) off the coast of the US State of Louisiana where it launched an SSC Sang-o Class Mini Submarine (Yugo class) estimated to have an operational range of 321 kilometers (200 miles).
On the night of April 20th the North Korean Mini Submarine manned by these “suicidal” 17th Sniper Corps soldiers attacked the Deepwater Horizon with what are believed to be 2 incendiary torpedoes causing a massive explosion and resulting in 11 workers on this giant oil rig being killed outright. Barely 48 hours later, on April 22nd , this North Korean Mini Submarine committed its final atrocity by exploding itself directly beneath the Deepwater Horizon causing this $1 Billion oil rig to sink beneath the seas and marking 2010’s celebration of Earth Day with one of the largest environmental catastrophes our World has ever seen.


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2. A reader who is an engineer of considerable experience says watch this one evolve carefully because it is destined to continue to grow and he shares this long (but worthy explanation why:

"Heard your mention of the oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico this morning, and you (and most everyone else except maybe George Noory) are totally missing the boat on how big and bad of a disaster this is.

First fact, the original estimate was about 5,000 gallons of oil a day spilling into the ocean. Now they're saying 200,000 gallons a day. That's over a million gallons of crude oil a week!

I'm engineer with 25 years of experience. I've worked on some big projects with big machines. Maybe that's why this mess is so clear to me.

Now they've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of is spewing 200,000 barrels of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that, will you!
 Quoting: DaJavoo


For an engineer with 25 years of experience he sure keeps mixing barrels with gallons! The original estimate was 5,000 barrels. He says it was 5,000 gallons but then at the end he switches to 200,000 barrels of oil a day.
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"The second angel blew his trumpet, and something like a great mountain, burning with fire, was thrown into the sea; and a third of the sea became blood, a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed."

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No kidding. My nuclear bomb idea is backed up by an engineer. Damn I should have applied myself in high school.


I could have been an engineer instead of --> bartmoon
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What kind of damage would a nuke cause as well?
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If they can use a small one, then the damage will definitely be less than the oil will create. Oil will kill everything, that's a fact. Depending on the currents, a small nuke could be set of with most of the irradiated water being carried away into the Carribean and Atlantic. Don't forget that superpowers used to blow these suckers up by the dozen back in the 50ties.
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What kind of damage would a nuke cause as well?
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Thread: So..If They Nuke The Leak.....





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