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Was the wreck of the Deep Water Horizon Gulf rig Sabotage?

 
D. Bunker

05/01/2010 05:35 PM
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If I were to be suspicious, I would first suspect those who oppose drilling and desire the economy to shift toward other energy sources. Such an accident could generate sympathy and money to force the economy to alter paths.

That would be my initial most suspect group right there too.

I would guess that wasn't this an op in the sense that the rig suffered some assault by some outside force...like scuba dudes planting bombs on it...I just don't see that and also I think Naval assets to protect rigs would be a waste for this reason.

Some states would gain for sure, but would they sponsor such an attack from the inside for either monetary or idealogical reasons?....I would think the risk wouldn't be worth the reward for that...cause if they were caught?....the response would be harsh whether it was military or economic....so if this was sabotage I will go with your first impression too...some group that wouldn't be associated directly with a nation state.
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It is an election year and this will likely become a major issue that such an agenda could effectively exploit.
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"Eco-tards would gain a huge victory..."

Yes that's it, OP, those damn eco-tard commie fuctards. They shit it there own den to make organic soils you know. You are a vile person.

Yeah whatever...oooh my fewwlings got hurted....but I'm not the type that burns down some ranchers property or blows up a car dealer like those "eco-tards" do...so I can live with your inane wimpering...unlike those tolerant souls....
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Oh, sweat pea, you know your feelings ain't hurt. Can't get hurt if you ain't got none. I ain't the type to blow up anything, not even an Oklahoma Federal building. But I am off the grid which means I don't help your energy cost be any cheaper, and I ain't gonna share it with you even though I do generate more than my tiny "footprint" needs. Unless the Fascist government that you are helping to create forces me to tap into the grid to help your ignorant butt. I assure you us ecotards done thought this shit throw.
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05/01/2010 05:36 PM
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I think it's odd that none of the survivors have given any interviews. Usually when something like this happens, someone is willing to talk!
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05/01/2010 05:37 PM
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"Eco-tards would gain a huge victory..."

Yes that's it, OP, those damn eco-tard commie fuctards. They shit it there own den to make organic soils you know. You are a vile person.

yeah and their nothing but communist in green..
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Yup, we don't call it the "Green Revolution" for nothing.
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05/01/2010 05:38 PM

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On one hand I can see how systems can fail, and that possibly BP ran it on the edge...and the edge cut them....

On the other?...ok a blowout can happen, but it's a rare event for sure, but the rig sinking too? It's a whole lot to go full out worst case failure all in the same place...and a whole lot of very high odds against it all happening...


You believe whatever rush or POX news tells ya.

You're stupid and need their guidance.

Tea bag it with your other stupid fuckin friends.
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Go D-bag it with your Obama worshipping koolaide drinking pals and keep believing thier tripe like a good sheeple.

I've forgotten more than you'll ever know about mechanics, retard.
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If I were to be suspicious, I would first suspect those who oppose drilling and desire the economy to shift toward other energy sources. Such an accident could generate sympathy and money to force the economy to alter paths.

That would be my initial most suspect group right there too.

I would guess that wasn't this an op in the sense that the rig suffered some assault by some outside force...like scuba dudes planting bombs on it...I just don't see that and also I think Naval assets to protect rigs would be a waste for this reason.

Some states would gain for sure, but would they sponsor such an attack from the inside for either monetary or idealogical reasons?....I would think the risk wouldn't be worth the reward for that...cause if they were caught?....the response would be harsh whether it was military or economic....so if this was sabotage I will go with your first impression too...some group that wouldn't be associated directly with a nation state.



It is an election year and this will likely become a major issue that such an agenda could effectively exploit.
 Quoting: D. Bunker

I have ZERO doubt that this disater WILL be exploited to that end regardless of what caused it.

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Sorry about Beevis, couldn't help myself. Now...back to topic...

D. Bunker:
"No one truly gains from the ecological disaster." Are you sure about that? Not to push a sinister conspiracy...too late....but dare we underestimate the evil that lurks in a man with an AGENDA?
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All it's about money and power, or something even darker..
OK and i don't beleive this at this point..But: Islam knows Revelations,and beleive they can force Christ to come back to earth if certain things are somehow brought about..
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"Eco-tards would gain a huge victory..."

Yes that's it, OP, those damn eco-tard commie fuctards. They shit it there own den to make organic soils you know. You are a vile person.

Yeah whatever...oooh my fewwlings got hurted....but I'm not the type that burns down some ranchers property or blows up a car dealer like those "eco-tards" do...so I can live with your inane wimpering...unlike those tolerant souls....


Oh, sweat pea, you know your feelings ain't hurt. Can't get hurt if you ain't got none. I ain't the type to blow up anything, not even an Oklahoma Federal building. But I am off the grid which means I don't help your energy cost be any cheaper, and I ain't gonna share it with you even though I do generate more than my tiny "footprint" needs. Unless the Fascist government that you are helping to create forces me to tap into the grid to help your ignorant butt. I assure you us ecotards done thought this shit throw.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 938245

If you had thought it "through" instead and were a tad less myopic you'd realize that if the energy shit hits the fan and the economy tanks worse than it already is?...there isn't going to be any safe havens were you can brew sprout juice or whatever it is you do in your own little world...it'll be over run by the savage fucktards that such a scenerio would create....hope you can hold off an army...because that's what you'll need to do....
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05/01/2010 05:54 PM
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You guys are starting to scare me...I have to leave the room.
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Re: Was the wreck of the Deep Water Horizon Gulf rig Sabotage?
Thread: Hyundai built BP Oil Rig explosion was an accident!! Proof!


from page 2 of above thread
"The fisherman states he heard an extremely loud bang...
Just prior to the whole area being inundated with methane which burnt their eyes....


This was the BOP failure....and it's as simple as that..

The cement didn't hold and failed....

This made the well cap the torch attached to the earth,,,
all they needed after that was a simple spark and with the generators kicking in after the power was cut...

The rest as they say is history folks..."

link ti fishermans video
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05/01/2010 05:59 PM
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"Eco-tards would gain a huge victory..."

Yes that's it, OP, those damn eco-tard commie fuctards. They shit it there own den to make organic soils you know. You are a vile person.

Yeah whatever...oooh my fewwlings got hurted....but I'm not the type that burns down some ranchers property or blows up a car dealer like those "eco-tards" do...so I can live with your inane wimpering...unlike those tolerant souls....


Oh, sweat pea, you know your feelings ain't hurt. Can't get hurt if you ain't got none. I ain't the type to blow up anything, not even an Oklahoma Federal building. But I am off the grid which means I don't help your energy cost be any cheaper, and I ain't gonna share it with you even though I do generate more than my tiny "footprint" needs. Unless the Fascist government that you are helping to create forces me to tap into the grid to help your ignorant butt. I assure you us ecotards done thought this shit throw.

If you had thought it "through" instead and were a tad less myopic you'd realize that if the energy shit hits the fan and the economy tanks worse than it already is?...there isn't going to be any safe havens were you can brew sprout juice or whatever it is you do in your own little world...it'll be over run by the savage fucktards that such a scenerio would create....hope you can hold off an army...because that's what you'll need to do....
 Quoting: SHR


Sorry for the typo. I knew you would defocus on that. The energy shit started hitting the fan since the since the seventies. There is no "if" about it. All of us are standing knee deep in the shit now. Get that all of us. Eco-tard or Neo-con tard. And I suggest you learn how to plant a seed too and water the thing to have something to eat also. Please don't come ask me for mine or try to take it. Get it, we are all in knee deep shit of the people who shit on all of us.
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"Eco-tards would gain a huge victory..."

Yes that's it, OP, those damn eco-tard commie fuctards. They shit it there own den to make organic soils you know. You are a vile person.

Here's just a few nice luv-ins from your eco-pals....there are way more and this is only a few years...the rest would take a mile of space up....still think they are all friendly hippies crapping in a composte pile??

12/9-30/00 Suffolk County, Multiple Arsons Earth Liberation Front Long Island, NY
1-2-01 Glendale, OR Arson Earth Liberation Front
2-20-01 Visalia, CA Arson Earth Liberation Front
3-9-01 Culpeper, VA Tree Spiking Earth Liberation Front
3-30-01 Eugene, OR Arson Earth Liberation Front
4-15-01 Portland, OR Arson Earth Liberation Front
5-21-01 Seattle, WA Arson Earth Liberation Front
5-21-01 Clatskanie, OR Arson Earth Liberation Front
7-24-01 Stateline, NV Destruction of Property Earth Liberation Front
10-14-01 Litchfield, CA Arson Earth Liberation Front
11-12-01 San Diego, CA Burglary and Vandalism Animal Liberation Front
3-18-02 Erie, PA Vandalism Earth Liberation Front
3-24-02 Erie, PA Arson Earth Liberation Front
5/11-12/02 Harborcreek, PA Vandalism/Destruction Earth Liberation Front/
of Property Animal Liberation Front
8/02-10/02 Henrico and Goochland Vandalism and Earth Liberation Front
Counties, VA Destruction of Property
8-11-02 Warren, PA Arson Earth Liberation Front
9/15-16/02 Harborcreek, PA Vandalism/Destruction Earth Liberation Front/ of Property Animal Liberation Front
11-26-02 Harborcreek, PA Arson Earth Liberation Front/
Animal Liberation Front
1-1-03 Girard, PA Arson Earth Liberation Front
3-3-03 Chico, CA Vandalism Animal Liberation Front
8/03-9/03 San Diego, CA Arson Earth Liberation Front
8-22-03 West Covina, CA Vandalism and Earth Liberation Front
Destruction of Property
8-28-03 Emeryville, CA Bombing Daniel Andreas San Diego
suspected
9-26-03 Pleasanton, CA Bombing Daniel Andreas San Diego
suspected
1-19-04 Henrico County, VA Arson Earth Liberation Front
suspected
4-1-04 Oklahoma City, OK Arson Sean Michael Gillespie/Aryan Nations
4-20-04 Redmond, WA Vandalism and Arson Earth Liberation Front
5/04-7/04 Provo, UT Vandalism and Arson Animal Liberation Front
12-27-04 Lincoln, CA Attempted Arson Earth Liberation Front
1/05-2/05 Auburn, CA Attempted Arson and Arson Earth Liberation Front
Sutter Creek, CA
4-13-05 Sammanish, WA Arson Earth Liberation Front
7-7-05 Los Angeles, CA Attempted Arson Animal rights extremists
suspected
9-16-05 Los Angeles, CA Attempted Arson Animal Liberation Front
11-20-05 Hagerstown, MD Arson Earth Liberation Front

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 Quoting: SHR


Doesn't hold a candle to the list of corporate death, damage and misery inflicted on the earth. In fact, many so-called "green" organisations are funded by corporate interests.
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05/01/2010 06:06 PM
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5a

SHR as I stated in a thread yesterday another oddity about this whole thing is that none of the 100 survivors has to my knowledge made any definitive statements about the whole thing. Nor has the press/tv/any media sought them out as they normally do. It is now 11 days and counting and we have no first person account of exactly what took place that in itself makes it suspect to my way of thinking.
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Thread: Hyundai built BP Oil Rig explosion was an accident!! Proof!


from page 2 of above thread
"The fisherman states he heard an extremely loud bang...
Just prior to the whole area being inundated with methane which burnt their eyes....


This was the BOP failure....and it's as simple as that..

The cement didn't hold and failed....

This made the well cap the torch attached to the earth,,,
all they needed after that was a simple spark and with the generators kicking in after the power was cut...

The rest as they say is history folks..."

link ti fishermans video
[link to www.mudinmyblood.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 953713

I agree...


"Around 10pm the entire center of the rig started rushing water downwards over all the pipes... "
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"Doesn't hold a candle to the list of corporate death, damage and misery inflicted on the earth. In fact, many so-called "green" organisations are funded by corporate interests."

Indeed. Kinda like British Petroleum changing their name to Beyond Petroleum. Isn't it?
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Is the Horizon tied into the thunderhorse?
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05/01/2010 06:13 PM
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what real info do you have to suggest it was sabotage other than baseless conspiracy theory?
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"Around 10pm the entire center of the rig started rushing water downwards over all the pipes... "

TPTB are gonna start making fun of us, you know. Comparing our conspiracy theories to Building Seven. They sound kinda similar and are going to say we are not original thinkers. LOL
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what real info do you have to suggest it was sabotage other than baseless conspiracy theory?
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NO one seems to, do you have any information will enlighten us???
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Come on...it was just simple "human error" - that's why Nuclear Plants are so dangerous ! "Yeah, I'm going out after my shift and gonna get laid. Hey, would you take those readings I'm only supposed to do so I can get an early start ?"
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Has anyone mentioned the obvious yet.

Shut down and cap all oil rigs in the water drilling. Once was enough. ONce might be way too much damage.

But of course its all about profit and money. Got to keep polluting the world even if it means destroying it. Geez.
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Baiting for the coming climate initiatives.

Underwater bomb planted on the cement base.

BP not responsible.

State of emergencies declared for upcoming multi-state security programs and "restructuring" campaigns.

News smoke screen over Greece, Spain and China for 1-3 weeks.
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I definitely think it was intentional but I’m not sure why or who. This was a dream from March 12, 2006.

I'm outside a complex that has lots of buildings and a big pool. Sometimes the pool is like a pool, encased in concrete, and sometimes it's like a lake with grass and sand on the shore. There seems to be a few platforms floating in the water that I swam to a few times but the water was cold and dirty and I didn't like that much. It seems like this was a rescue mission, other people were there and I watched them haul a body out of the water in one of those black body bags.

Next I'm over by some buildings and I have to get this big hose because I have to clean the water, it was very muddy and murky. I grab this hose that seems 3 miles long, like a fireman's hose with a light coloured canvas covering and lots of brass connectors between the different lengths of hose. I started hauling the hose over fountains and up stairs and through bushes and it kept getting caught on stuff. At one point the brass connector disconnected and I was pulling a short piece of hose, maybe 5 feet long.

I trucked back to where the hose came disconnected and in the distance I could see a girl who I knew was French Canadian for some reason, and she is giving me pointers telepathically on how to get the hose untangled and keep it together. I got it all straightened out and headed back to where I had to go. I knew I had to vacuum out this entire pond / pool and I wondered if I would have enough hose. I looked behind me and it seemed never-ending so I quit worrying about that.

I got to a place that was a building with no windows, corrugated aluminum and a set of wooden stairs going down beside it that led to a dock that went quite a way out. The dock ended at the end of the building. I was hauling this hose down the stairs when I could feel by the weight that it had come undone at one of the brass connectors again. I looked behind me and saw several (5 maybe?) men walking down the stairs, all dressed in black suits with black overcoats carrying black briefcases. I said to them "Hey, watch where you're walking, you just broke my hose!" One of the men kicked the hose into the water and it was the part of the hose I needed to clean with. It was brass too and looked like a vacuum attachment.

The man at the front of the line said "Too bad, get out of our way". I looked into the water and watched my attachment and part of the hose sinking down in to this now black thick gooey water. The man in front laughed and said, "There, now go swim after it". I said, "I'm not going in that water without protection and I could have had this all done from this dock, now I have to go in after it and that water's so bad I will probably never find it!" I was pissed! He laughed and the men pushed me out of the way and continued down the dock.

The End.


Comment to a friend at the time...” I think the part about the water may be an oil spill in the future caused on purpose by the MIBs.”

A couple of months later... “That dream about the men in black and the black water reminded me of New Orleans”

The French Canadian girl had me particularly confused until last night when I remembered Cajuns are descendents of Acadians who were French settlers of Eastern Canada.
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TPTB are fulfilling biblical prophecy to keep the sheep tuned into their engineered god.
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Has anyone mentioned the obvious yet.

Shut down and cap all oil rigs in the water drilling. Once was enough. ONce might be way too much damage.

But of course its all about profit and money. Got to keep polluting the world even if it means destroying it. Geez.
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Yes, many have. That would be way too obvious though. LOL
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Has anyone mentioned the obvious yet.

Shut down and cap all oil rigs in the water drilling. Once was enough. ONce might be way too much damage.

But of course its all about profit and money. Got to keep polluting the world even if it means destroying it. Geez.

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not as you think, theres as lot of oil rigs[6oo really why did blow up.

natural gas. as a mistake not been venting..


But BP had a problem of drilling into a natural gas formation as a oil field[2 1/2 miles under water.


Get the stocks as a not a bad investment, natural gas explosion as have struck, the stocks might be lower.
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Thread: Hyundai built BP Oil Rig explosion was an accident!! Proof!


from page 2 of above thread
"The fisherman states he heard an extremely loud bang...
Just prior to the whole area being inundated with methane which burnt their eyes....


This was the BOP failure....and it's as simple as that..

The cement didn't hold and failed....

This made the well cap the torch attached to the earth,,,
all they needed after that was a simple spark and with the generators kicking in after the power was cut...

The rest as they say is history folks..."

link ti fishermans video
[link to www.mudinmyblood.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 953713

Sorry but you have no idea what you are trying to talk about.
Cementing in the well means encasing the bore with cement...like making a cement pipe for the well to flow oil out instead of the stell drilling and working pipe...it doesn't "hold anything" execpt the junk, sand etc off the walls of the well bore from mixing in with the oil. So if the cementing in did fail?...it shouldn't have done shit that meant anything to anyone at this time...other cement "failures" are after the drill rig has moved off in most all those cases......I know it's fun to point at Haliburton though...they are after all Darth Cheney inc....lol..

The BOP or blowout protector is a huge...HUGE assembly...this one seems to have 4 complete assemblies all in a "Stack"...all with massive hydrualic rams all designed to shut off that well bore in the very case of a situation just like what this person describes...all of them HAD to have failed...ALL of it..and all the backups....

No one is saying that is what didn't happen...ok yeah sure there are few torpediots floating around comuuning with the aliens that photon beemzored it....but the vast majority of people just do not see how all these systems can ALL fail in the worst possible way at the worst possible time when this is not some rig in the gulf of fucktardistan where they might use a few clothes pins or nothing at all in the same situation.

I'm sure that the crew saw what was happening even though it probably happened fast and tried their best to halt it, some maybe died trying...but it's an almost impossible thing to HAVE happen on this caliber of rig with the caliber of systems they have on it.
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After listening to this eyewitness account, I'm leaning more toward this being an accident: Thread: MAN WHO SURVIVED RIG DISASTER TELLS ALL TO MARK LEVIN--AUDIO LINKS
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After listening to this eyewitness account, I'm leaning more toward this being an accident: Thread: MAN WHO SURVIVED RIG DISASTER TELLS ALL TO MARK LEVIN--AUDIO LINKS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 796638

yeah me too......

link to interview with rig worker who was on the rig when it blew....

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