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Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

 
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PC out of control!!!

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Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin
A Christian street preacher was arrested and locked in a cell for telling a passer-by that homosexuality is a sin in the eyes of God.


By Heidi Blake
Published: 1:05PM BST 02 May 2010

Dale McAlpine was charged with causing “harassment, alarm or distress” after a homosexual police community support officer (PCSO) overheard him reciting a number of “sins” referred to in the Bible, including blasphemy, drunkenness and same sex relationships.

The 42-year-old Baptist, who has preached Christianity in Wokington, Cumbria for years, said he did not mention homosexuality while delivering a sermon from the top of a stepladder, but admitted telling a passing shopper that he believed it went against the word of God.

Police officers are alleging that he made the remark in a voice loud enough to be overheard by others and have charged him with using abusive or insulting language, contrary to the Public Order Act.

Mr McAlpine, who was taken to the police station in the back of a marked van and locked in a cell for seven hours on April 20, said the incident was among the worst experiences of his life.

“I felt deeply shocked and humiliated that I had been arrested in my own town and treated like a common criminal in front of people I know," he said.

“My freedom was taken away on the hearsay of someone who disliked what I said, and I was charged under a law that doesn't apply.”

Christian campaigners have expressed alarm that the Public Order Act, introduced in 1986 to tackle violent rioters and football hooligans, is being used to curb religious free speech.

Sam Webster, a solicitor-advocate for the Christian Institute, which is supporting Mr McAlpine, said it is not a crime to express the belief that homosexual conduct is a sin.

“The police have a duty to maintain public order but they also have a duty to defend the lawful free speech of citizens,” he said.

“Case law has ruled that the orthodox Christian belief that homosexual conduct is sinful is a belief worthy of respect in a democratic society."

Mr McAlpine was handing out leaflets explaining the Ten Commandments or offering a “ticket to heaven” with a church colleague on April 20, when a woman came up and engaged him in a debate about his faith.

During the exchange, he says he quietly listed homosexuality among a number of sins referred to in 1 Corinthians, including blasphemy, fornication, adultery and drunkenness.

After the woman walked away, she was approached by a PCSO who spoke with her briefly and then walked over to Mr McAlpine and told him a complaint had been made, and that he could be arrested for using racist or homophobic language.

The street preacher said he told the PCSO: “I am not homophobic but sometimes I do say that the Bible says homosexuality is a crime against the Creator”.

He claims that the PCSO then said he was homosexual and identified himself as the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender liaison officer for Cumbria police. Mr McAlpine replied: “It’s still a sin.”

The preacher then began a 20 minute sermon, in which he says he mentioned drunkenness and adultery, but not homosexuality. Three regular uniformed police officers arrived during the address, arrested Mr McAlpine and put him in the back of a police van.

At the station, he was told to empty his pockets and his mobile telephone, belt and shoes were confiscated. Police took fingerprints, a palm print, a retina scan and a DNA swab.

He was later interviewed, charged under Sections 5 (1) and (6) of the Public Order Act and released on bail on the condition that he did not preach in public.

Mr McAlpine pleaded not guilty at a preliminary hearing on Friday at Wokingham magistrates court and is now awaiting a trial date.

The Public Order Act, which outlaws the unreasonable use of abusive language likely to cause distress, has been used to arrest religious people in a number of similar cases.

Harry Hammond, a pensioner, was convicted under Section 5 of the Act in 2002 for holding up a sign saying “Stop immorality. Stop Homosexuality. Stop Lesbianism. Jesus is Lord” while preaching in Bournemouth.

Stephen Green, a Christian campaigner, was arrested and charged in 2006 for handing out religious leaflets at a Gay Pride festival in Cardiff. The case against him was later dropped.

Cumbria police said last night that no one was available to comment on Mr McAlpine’s case.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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i guess my post wasnt good enough -=]
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell. -Matthew 10:28
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Yeah, wont be long til they just start kickin in the doors of churches.

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i guess my post wasnt good enough -=]
 Quoting: wizefool©

Yours was good, just didn't see it. Sorry!
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good for him. he was trying to go out there and validate his own perception of reality. which is that the world is going to hell and god's people are being persecuted and all of that. he's got a little story to tell now.

he could of instead went and dropped off clothes and food and perhaps some words of encouragement to needy families
that actually want to hear from him. running your fat ass mouth doesn't impress god. that guy's just a punk trouble maker by nature and is expressing it through his spirituality. he knew no one was listening to him in a receptive manner. it was a complete waste of time.
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i guess my post wasnt good enough -=]

Yours was good, just didn't see it. Sorry!
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just kidding..the more people that see this stuff and gets it out the better!!!
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell. -Matthew 10:28
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05/03/2010 01:31 AM
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Freedom of speech WAS a good idea, I think. Of course there was speech that 1 person would find innocuous and another person would find offensive.
But the idea was this: if you are offended by someone's speech you can walk away or turn the station or hang up the phone or ignore it. But since everyone had the right, the offended person could also share HIS opinion which the original speaker could find offensive. So really, EVERYONE WAS EQUAL - then. Those days are over though.

Now some speech is considered too hateful. Too incendiary. Too vicious.

So, just watch TV. Listen to the Radio. Read the Newspaper. The media ONLY plays with words and phrases that are considered non-hateful and therefore still protected.

And of course, schools still promote safe speech that doesn't hurt anyone. Like this:
"Hello Ms. Greenstein's 2nd grade Class! Today is exciting! You are going to find out if you are a homosexual today! You will learn how to sexually satisfy your friends with your mouth, your vagina and your anus!! Exploration is fun! Here, first we'll watch this video and then we'll discuss how they were able to do what they did on the TV screen, OK guys? Remember: Safe Sex is Good Sex!!"
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Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin
homosexuality is not a sin. It is a mental disorder.





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