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Anonymous Coward User ID: 959425 ![]() 05/03/2010 05:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe christians should start to get the message...... it is a personal relationship between me and my god and HE doesnt need your help to get to me! STOP PUSHING YOUR BELIEFS ON EVERYONE Believe what you will and I wish you all the prosperity joy and good health while you do but leave others to decide for themselves and dont preach unless you are asked about your own life and good health and prosperity. Jesus said 'you shall know them by their fruit'...... and if YOU are doing it right others will be drawn to you and they will ask. |
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KingdomCome User ID: 959655 ![]() 05/03/2010 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Word of God is true and all who Reject Jesus Christ and his holy bible will fine them self in hell and the only hope for there soul they have rejected . SIN IS SIN AND THERE IS NO ESCAPE FROM THE TRUE GOD OF THE HOLY BIBLE JESUS IS THE ONLY ESCAPE FROM HELL AND FROM SIN GOD HOLY BIBLE IS ABOVE ALL NOW AND FOR EVER THE END IS HERE JUDGMENT IS COMING ANTICHRIST IS COMING |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 952579 ![]() 05/03/2010 06:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As an American, I don't think that saying "homosexuals are going to hell" should be a jailable offense. Quoting: Mango Positive 473218As a rational being, it is definitely worthy of ridicule. I don't think that's what he said. I believe he said that homosexuality is a sin and he quoted scripture. That IS what scripture says, and he IS a preacher. He's entitled to his beliefs and he's entitled to freedom of speech. I saw nothing hateful in his speech. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 952579 ![]() 05/03/2010 06:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As an American, I don't think that saying "homosexuals are going to hell" should be a jailable offense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 952579As a rational being, it is definitely worthy of ridicule. I don't think that's what he said. I believe he said that homosexuality is a sin and he quoted scripture. That IS what scripture says, and he IS a preacher. He's entitled to his beliefs and he's entitled to freedom of speech. I saw nothing hateful in his speech. Sometimes the truth hurts. Fat people don't like to be told they're fat either. It's just the truth, isn't it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 946938 ![]() 05/03/2010 06:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's one thing to believe your religion condemns certain people to hell and that their existence is a sin against God, it's another thing to stand on a street corner and push those hateful views about other people in public. If you need to stand on a street corner and preach hate about other people, you need to reassess your religion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 952579 ![]() 05/03/2010 06:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's one thing to believe your religion condemns certain people to hell and that their existence is a sin against God, it's another thing to stand on a street corner and push those hateful views about other people in public. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946938If you need to stand on a street corner and preach hate about other people, you need to reassess your religion. Again, he didn't say that. He said it was a sin. So is lying, so is cheating, so is thinking unpure thoughts. So is speeding in traffic for that matter. Get a grip. |
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ZTE User ID: 779511 ![]() 05/03/2010 10:55 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Muslims in NY can openly threaten to kill people and not be arrested, but yet a Christian preacher interprets a quote in the Bible and gets thrown in jail. Nobody should be thrown in jail for something they said, no matter how offensive or subjective it may be. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 946938 ![]() 05/03/2010 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It doesn't matter what you believe if what he said is true or not. The debate that you should be talking about is free speech. Quoting: ZTEMuslims in NY can openly threaten to kill people and not be arrested, but yet a Christian preacher interprets a quote in the Bible and gets thrown in jail. Nobody should be thrown in jail for something they said, no matter how offensive or subjective it may be. So you're actually upset the U.K. is not the U.S, since you're talking about 2 different countries (NY is in the U.S., Cardiff is in the U.K.) If you want to stand on a street corner and preach hate about people, claiming your religious beliefs tells you that's okay, you should be wiling to sit in a jail cell. People who want to push their beliefs in ways that violate local laws generally can get away with it. They just have to sit in a jail cell or pay a fine for the privilege. If that's too much of a burden for the guy, he should get out of the business of preaching in people's faces out in public. |
ZTE User ID: 779511 ![]() 05/03/2010 11:13 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you're actually upset the U.K. is not the U.S, since you're talking about 2 different countries (NY is in the U.S., Cardiff is in the U.K.) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946938If you want to stand on a street corner and preach hate about people, claiming your religious beliefs tells you that's okay, you should be wiling to sit in a jail cell. People who want to push their beliefs in ways that violate local laws generally can get away with it. They just have to sit in a jail cell or pay a fine for the privilege. If that's too much of a burden for the guy, he should get out of the business of preaching in people's faces out in public. Well the same thing is happening in the UK in that Muslims can do whatever they want or spew death threats to anyone, yet a Christian preacher quotes from the Bible and gets thrown in jail. Both situations are religious beliefs, but one is validated over the other. My point is either jail everyone or jail nobody. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 896179 ![]() 05/03/2010 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think that's what he said. I believe he said that homosexuality is a sin and he quoted scripture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 952579That IS what scripture says, and he IS a preacher. He's entitled to his beliefs and he's entitled to freedom of speech. I saw nothing hateful in his speech. He said homosexuality is a sin. He didn't say that he, personally, finds homosexuality squicky. That would be no problem. What he said was that there is a cosmic entity which is perfectly and definitively good, and that homosexuality is entirely incompatible with it and offensive to it. That homosexuality is in fact evil. That it's like beating and robbing someone, or murder. That's what 'sin' means. So it is certainly hateful. What else can it be? If something is a sin, then it is absolutely and definitely evil, and an affront to all that is pure and good and decent. To call something a sin is to declare that you hate it. And if he says that he is only quoting scripture, then scripture too is hate speech. The problem here is not that this preacher was arrested under hate speech laws - it seems perfectly reasonable to me. The problem is that hate speech laws exist in the first place. I personally am delighted to see these laws being enforced to the letter, and I hope that after a few more cases like this we'll see it repealed early by the next government. |
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rachel User ID: 529732 ![]() 05/03/2010 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well of course a gay person dosnt want to hear what they are doing is a sin. hell when i was a dancer it was real hard for me to change my ways and i have god to thank that i did:) this world does not heed gods laws we all want to do what we want and have no control of our egos. this is prophecy at its best. christian will be persecuted in god ol usa. |
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JohnDoe User ID: 736738 ![]() 05/03/2010 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which is it tards? You either follow the law or you don't. How many of you men shave your beards? Ever eat shrimp? Women, do you dare walk around without your head covered? How many blood sacrifices have you made? Ever work on Saturday? All these things are against the same law. Sins. Oh, but those don't count right? Just the one about queers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 541579 ![]() 05/03/2010 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | even if they believe the bible is right, there is the right of the man to choose his lifestyle. he's not imposing this lifestyle on the church. even if I disagree with gays, etc., i find it abusive to try to impose my religious of bias beliefs on any human being. that is not my right. it's called religious abuse. it actually happens allot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 755639 ![]() 05/03/2010 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe christians should start to get the message...... it is a personal relationship between me and my god and HE doesnt need your help to get to me! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 959425STOP PUSHING YOUR BELIEFS ON EVERYONE Believe what you will and I wish you all the prosperity joy and good health while you do but leave others to decide for themselves and dont preach unless you are asked about your own life and good health and prosperity. Jesus said 'you shall know them by their fruit'...... and if YOU are doing it right others will be drawn to you and they will ask. That's not belief pushing. I'm sorry. And this isn't freedom of religion or speech. grow up. |
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