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New Ash cloud about to shut down UK airspace

 
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New Ash cloud about to shut down UK airspace
THE return of the volcanic ash cloud early today shut down airports around the country amid fears flights could be grounded for days.

No flights will land or take off from Irish airports between 7am and 1pm because of the risk posed by the ash to aircraft engines.

The no-fly zone was imposed after the ash plume from the Eyjafjallajökull volcano in Iceland drifted south yesterday forcing the Irish Aviation Authority (IAA) to ban all flights in and out of the country.

Experts said weather conditions would have a huge bearing on how long planes were grounded. Met Eireann said the plume could hover over Ireland until Friday and that would mean chaos for tens of thousands of passengers for days to come.

As many as 439 flights are due in and out of Dublin today. The restrictions mean 55,000 passengers will be affected.

However, flights in and out of the UK will be largely unaffected, although some of Scotland's airspace was closed last night, while airports in the North are also closed.

Last night Ryanair said it was concentrating on emailing and texting all passengers who were due to fly out of Ireland this morning.

A spokesman said: "The first wave of flights are cancelled.

"We're advising all passengers to check the website for updates before coming to the airport." He said that as of last night a total of 30pc of their Irish flights had been cancelled.

Aer Lingus advised all passengers to go to their website to get updates and also to reschedule or to get a refund.

It said it was cancelling flight EI 105 at 10.30am from Dublin to New York, but all its other transatlantic flights were due to depart after 1pm. Customers were advised there may be delays to transatlantic flights.

The following flights from the US to Ireland scheduled to arrive before 7am this morning are expected to operate: EI 104 from New York to Dublin, EI 110 from New York to Shannon, EI 136 from Boston to Dublin, EI 132 from Boston to Shannon and EI 124 from Chicago to Dublin.

The IAA decision is based on the safety risks to crews and passengers as a result of the drift south of the volcanic ash cloud caused by the north-easterly winds. The no-fly zone affects all airports including Dublin, Shannon, Galway, Sligo, Ireland West (Knock), Donegal, Cork and Kerry.

Up to 20 flights in Shannon and another 50 in Cork will be affected today. Donegal Airport closed last night with two Aer Arann flights cancelled.

Last night Met Eireann said that based on current weather forecast the airports could be closed until at least tomorrow and warned disruptions could continue up to the weekend.

A band of high pressure to the west, coupled with northerly winds, means that the plume is unlikely to drift away from Irish airspace over the next 48 hours. But Met Eireann said two high-pressure systems were building over Iceland and Scandinavia which could move the ash later in the week.

"By Friday there's two high-pressure systems building over Scandinavia and Iceland. This means the plume is moving to a different area," forecaster Siobhan Ryan said.

Concerned

"I wouldn't rule it (restrictions) out for the next 24 or 48 hours. From then the wind is coming from Scandinavia. I would be concerned for the next couple of days. I would say later in the week should be better."

Over-flights of Ireland from the UK and Europe will not be affected. Flights in mainland Europe will also operate normally, and the situation will be reviewed at 9am today.

"This decision means that no flights will land or take off, as was the case on previous occasions," the Dublin Airport Authority said last night. "The IAA are the lead agency in relation to this, so they are the ultimate decision-makers and the airlines will take their guidance from them," a spokesman said.

The move comes after flights over Europe were hit by a six-day shutdown of airspace last month over fears that jet engines would seize up after ingesting ash. The fresh move to shut down Irish airspace came less than a fortnight after widespread disruptions left 300,000 airline passengers and 2,100 flights to and from Ireland grounded.

Normal services only resumed on April 21 last after a week of chaos which forced airlines to cancel up to 30,000 flights a day across the EU because of safety concerns.

The IAA informed airlines based here yesterday afternoon that it was concerned about the ash cloud drifting south because of north-easterly winds.

Projections from the Volcanic Ash Advice Centre (VAAC) in London showed a cloud of ash across Ireland and Scotland which the IAA said raised safety concerns. At 8.30pm, it issued a statement confirming that airspace would close.

The plume is sitting 20,000ft over parts of the country.

Passengers are asked to contact their airlines today for further information.

- Paul Melia


[link to www.independent.ie]
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05/04/2010 02:51 AM
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That's old news dollface.
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05/04/2010 02:54 AM
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No it isnt...its May4th on the article
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05/04/2010 02:54 AM
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Un-real. But if you look at the live cam, it is much calmer than weeks ago:

[link to eldgos.mila.is]

Strange of the range.
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05/04/2010 02:56 AM
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Hubby flying here next week. Hope to hell the skies clear by then.
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05/04/2010 02:58 AM
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This thread is bull shit. No wonder it was pinned so fast.
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This thread is bull shit. No wonder it was pinned so fast.
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Explain - I don't understand your logic. This is real.
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05/04/2010 03:14 AM
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Yes, it is pin-worthy --


New ash cloud grounds flights in Ireland

By Channel 4 News

Updated on 04 May 2010

[link to www.channel4.com]



Flight disruption threat as new ash cloud approaches - Telegraph
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Irish Air Traffic Faces Fresh Ash Cloud Restrictions - Latest ...
4 May 2010 ... New Cloud Threatens More Problems. back link: back ... the direction that this new ash layer drifts will be followed very closely in the ...
www.handyshippingguide.com/...news/irish-air-traffic-faces-fr​esh-ash-cloud-restrictions_1662

Just do a Google search and see. This is BS, for I do not see an ash cloud heading this way.... but it is also VERY REAL, for you just have to read the media reports to see what they are going to do...
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05/04/2010 03:16 AM
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I saw it on the news reports today.. as far as I know this is a 'new' cloud of ash that is now effecting the UK
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05/04/2010 03:20 AM
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All your airspace are belong to us Idol1 devil6
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I saw it on the news reports today.. as far as I know this is a 'new' cloud of ash that is now effecting the UK
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I saw it on the news reports today.. as far as I know this is a 'new' cloud of ash that is now effecting the UK
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Yes, it is -- but Ireland is planning on re-opening....


04-05-2010
IRISH AIRPORTS WILL REOPEN AT 1300 hrs

The IAA has cleared Irish Airports to open for full operations from 1300 hrs local time today Tuesday 4th May. Dublin, Shannon, Cork, Knock, Donegal, Waterford and Kerry may resume normal operations:

BUT -- count on that to change....


The IAA has cleared Irish Airports to open for full operations from 1300 hrs local time today Tuesday 4th May. Dublin, Shannon, Cork, Knock, Donegal, Waterford and Kerry may resume normal operations.

Current Information from the VAAC confirms this information. We expect operations to be normal at all Irish Airports for the rest of today.

Ireland will not fall within the predicted area of ash concentrations that exceed acceptable engine manufacturer tolerance levels.

Our decision to close earlier today was based solely on the safety risks to crews and passengers as a result of the drift south of the volcanic ash cloud caused by the north easterly winds.

The situation will be reviewed as the week goes on. Winds are forecast to continue coming from a Northerly direction for the next few days and this could lead to further problems.


There will be a further update on the IAA website at 20.00hrs tonight, Tuesday 4th May, 2010.


[link to www.iaa.ie]
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05/04/2010 03:29 AM
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CAN'T WE ALL JUST BE FRIENDS?
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CAN'T WE ALL JUST BE FRIENDS?
hf
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CAN'T WE ALL JUST BE FRIENDS?
hf
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05/04/2010 03:33 AM
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Re: New Ash cloud about to shut down UK airspace
No question, there is a lot of ash in the atmosphere, milky sky,brown haze here this morning
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05/04/2010 03:34 AM
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Un-real. But if you look at the live cam, it is much calmer than weeks ago:

[link to eldgos.mila.is]

Strange of the range.
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How is it calmer when you can't see through all the cloud..er..ash?
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05/04/2010 03:35 AM
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Ireland =/= UK. People have died over that argument, you could at least get it right.
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05/04/2010 03:44 AM
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Ireland is not part of the UK.
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No question, there is a lot of ash in the atmosphere, milky sky,brown haze here this morning
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Yes the car is covered in this shite again this morning.
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Ireland is not part of the UK.
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Wow, your two User ID's are one digit apart.
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05/04/2010 04:11 AM
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Clear pic of eruption now:

[link to www.vodafone.is]
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05/04/2010 04:13 AM
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The seismic surge of the past two days though has dropped:

[link to hraun.vedur.is]
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[link to eldgos.mila.is]
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05/04/2010 04:27 AM
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Cannot see anything on those cams but fog/cloud/ash...

The wind changed direction so ash cloud back on us now :(
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The seismic surge of the past two days though has dropped:

[link to hraun.vedur.is]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 949094



Quite before the storm
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05/04/2010 04:41 AM
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Phase II of their plan... Phase I was the test. The first airspace grounding. This time...... Watch OUT!!

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Cannot see anything on those cams but fog/cloud/ash...

The wind changed direction so ash cloud back on us now :(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 960559


Use the history bars at the top of the image, go back to 8.14:

[link to www.vodafone.is]
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05/04/2010 05:12 AM
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Ever since the rules were changed the wind has blown from the south now its turned and is blowing from the north.

The new rules havent been tested yet. This is the first time. The Irish have decided not to take the risk. They are opening up again at 1 pm.

The cloud hasn't reached England yet so the decision has yet to be tested.
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05/04/2010 06:18 AM
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Am tempted to call it "YEAR OF THE CLOUDS".....
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05/04/2010 06:49 AM
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Cannot see anything on those cams but fog/cloud/ash...

The wind changed direction so ash cloud back on us now :(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 960559


The cloud is invisible, remember?

Nevermind they admitted there was no cloud at all:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
Noah was a conspiracy theorist too, until it started raining.





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