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taoist master here..ask me a question relating to truth, reality, nature, mind..anything related to the path..let's discuss!

 
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taoist master here..ask me a question relating to truth, reality, nature, mind..anything related to the path..let's discuss!
Any pertinent questions, posited by genuine seekers, welcome. :)

I will try to answer them as pointedly as possible, with the knowledge I am given and have attained.

Interjection of commentary is welcome, so long as it is directed towards what we are attempting to convey in our alchemical discourse.

Chow. :D
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No question just a comment. You are no taoist master


"chow" unless your name is chow... hung ching? lol... wankers all alike.

pastie white kid in a dark room? ya.....
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The tao that can be told
is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named
is not the eternal Name.

So, how can you be a 'taoist master'?

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No question just a comment. You are no taoist master


"chow" unless your name is chow... hung ching? lol... wankers all alike.

pastie white kid in a dark room? ya.....
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hmm..I don't feel i can direct this comment towards the alchemy of this discourse, or towards the illumination of any subtle truths.

:D
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The tao that can be told
is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named
is not the eternal Name.

So, how can you be a 'taoist master'?
 Quoting: Oscar Godolphin


ah, the common quote rings true, no question. and we must know the limits of language, and not cling to language as a representative of truth. of course, partial truth tendrils do extend out from the center of the mandala, and language can approach these partial truths, that ultimately point to or help us along the way to truth.

I am taoist master, but I am everything as you are, and nothing. "Taoist Master" is really just a device of language, in this case, to give others an approximate sense of, where (my) Mind has traveled, and what it has ascertained that has shaped who I have become, on the path.

It's also somewhat of comical thing. :D
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I have no further questions sir.
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I have no further questions sir.
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now THAT's some wisdom. teehehehehe.
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What is the Taoist response to the oil spill tragedy in the Gulf of Mexico?
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Did you find the immortal elixer already?
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Do you masturbate?
True Taoist dont, since becoming immortal is the path of the Tao, atleast sustain life as long as possible.
So cant waste energy.
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He who claims he is enlightened (i.e. a Taoist Master) is not.

Sounds like there's still a "somebody" there.

Keep up your sadhana! :)
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Please explain the 3 modes of the material plane
I Have Achieved The Second Stage Of Samadhi. When Every Communications Device On This Planet Rings In UNISON, This Will Be MY Second Birth-Cry & The Process Of Apotheosis Will Be Complete.
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The tao that can be told
is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named
is not the eternal Name.

So, how can you be a 'taoist master'?


ah, the common quote rings true, no question. and we must know the limits of language, and not cling to language as a representative of truth. of course, partial truth tendrils do extend out from the center of the mandala, and language can approach these partial truths, that ultimately point to or help us along the way to truth.

I am taoist master, but I am everything as you are, and nothing. "Taoist Master" is really just a device of language, in this case, to give others an approximate sense of, where (my) Mind has traveled, and what it has ascertained that has shaped who I have become, on the path.

It's also somewhat of comical thing. :D
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Nice answer.
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Not a question, merely an observation:

"Those who Know, do not Speak.
Those who Speak, do not Know".

damned
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Therefore the Master
acts without doing anything
and teaches without saying anything.


Wise advice.
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You say you're Master, who and why do you teach?.
How did you become a Master?
Who/How was your Master?
Do you master Chi/Qi kung? Is your Tan Tian (belly) filled up with Chi?
Can you beat Jet Li?
Can you fight against demons/ghosts?
Is your third eye open?
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What is the Taoist response to the oil spill tragedy in the Gulf of Mexico?
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This is a natural response, it can be nothing else because it is. The sentient-animated, conscious with free will, have now the decision as to which way they should act. I imagine there are those acting now to minimize the effect, though it may not seem that way considering the relatively large scale of the event. Regardless of action, the impact of the event is infinitesimal, a single yin breath from the infinite.

As such, it will sort itself out.
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OP,

I've been struggling with the concept of wu wei; whether I should go out there and grab life or whether I should sit back and let it all flow to me? If I was living a solitary life...I would choose the later...and I will in my sunset...but right now, with a wife and children...I find wu wei to be quite challenging...because of course wu wei translated to English can simply mean 'fuck you/it all'.

Thoughts
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Therefore the Master
acts without doing anything
and teaches without saying anything.


Wise advice.
 Quoting: Oscar Godolphin


I love that quote...but I rather the word sage.

But how about the rest...a sage walks with the crowd, but soon finds himself forced to the front...what does the sage do then? at the front? When does the sage embrace his Yang over his yin?
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Did you find the immortal elixer already?
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If I had, I would not use it. The elixor can be found in the Mind, in the Conscious Body, and in the Breath. Immortality is now, in front of all of you. Know it, transmute the point-source of a Conscious immortality, and Be it.

Immortality is not gained from any material/external is source. Indeed, it is nothing to be gained, at all.
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Therefore the Master
acts without doing anything
and teaches without saying anything.


Wise advice.


I love that quote...but I rather the word sage.

But how about the rest...a sage walks with the crowd, but soon finds himself forced to the front...what does the sage do then? at the front? When does the sage embrace his Yang over his yin?
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Why is he forced to the front? Are there no lawyers walking in this crowd?
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He who knows does not say
He who says doesn't know
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OP,

I've been struggling with the concept of wu wei; whether I should go out there and grab life or whether I should sit back and let it all flow to me? If I was living a solitary life...I would choose the later...and I will in my sunset...but right now, with a wife and children...I find wu wei to be quite challenging...because of course wu wei translated to English can simply mean 'fuck you/it all'.

Thoughts
 Quoting: GDW 961218


Sorry, You are trapped/fucked, since you have procreate another human.
Wu Wei = Action/Reaction. You recyled a new life, so you will be recycled with a next life also.
Your next life will have another chance to stop the vicious cycle.
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What is the Taoist response to the oil spill tragedy in the Gulf of Mexico?
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This is a natural response, it can be nothing else because it is. The sentient-animated, conscious with free will, have now the decision as to which way they should act. I imagine there are those acting now to minimize the effect, though it may not seem that way considering the relatively large scale of the event. Regardless of action, the impact of the event is infinitesimal, a single yin breath from the infinite.

As such, it will sort itself out.
...............................

Thank you OP - don't think there's anything 'natural' about this spill - --in the vastness of the Infinite I can accept that the impact of this event as infinitesimal - I however, believe that this manmade catastrophe is the single event that will be the true beginning of the demise of not only countless numbers of wildlife - but also the breakdown of countless old manmade structures - monetary system, affecting some shipping, travel, goods and services, new health quandries, stock market etc etc
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Do you masturbate?
True Taoist dont, since becoming immortal is the path of the Tao, atleast sustain life as long as possible.
So cant waste energy.
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Hehehe.. I do not. Not in some time atleast, I have in this lifetime. There is something to be said about the conservation of vital energy through abstaining from ejaculation, there is a connection. Of course vital energy can be leaked in a number of other ways. I would argue masturbation could be part of one's practice if moderated (like anything), not clung to desperately, able to given up. The loss of vital energy is nothing permanent, the vessel that transmutes circularly, has the will of their Mind at their disposal, in choosing which energies to expel, to impel, or simply to observe.
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I prefer the motif of the hero. The hero that appears from nowhere, helps a village, saves the day, and next day he is gone. No emotional attachments. Just raw heroism.

The true hero always ends up being alone, but he does not have to force himself to remain in that state all the time... there will be always someone who will need your help directly and immediately. You should save your wisdom / energy for this minority.. Most people only want a leader to follow, a god to worship, or a master to teach that which they already know but are unwilling to accept..
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Therefore the Master
acts without doing anything
and teaches without saying anything.


Wise advice.


I love that quote...but I rather the word sage.

But how about the rest...a sage walks with the crowd, but soon finds himself forced to the front...what does the sage do then? at the front? When does the sage embrace his Yang over his yin?


Why is he forced to the front? Are there no lawyers walking in this crowd?
 Quoting: Oscar Godolphin


Yes, I for one...but I don't get your point.
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He who knows does not say
He who says doesn't know
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Anyone can play word games...but are they always true?

What role does leadership and Yang play in all this Yin?
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OP,

I've been struggling with the concept of wu wei; whether I should go out there and grab life or whether I should sit back and let it all flow to me? If I was living a solitary life...I would choose the later...and I will in my sunset...but right now, with a wife and children...I find wu wei to be quite challenging...because of course wu wei translated to English can simply mean 'fuck you/it all'.

Thoughts


Sorry, You are trapped/fucked, since you have procreate another human.
Wu Wei = Action/Reaction. You recyled a new life, so you will be recycled with a next life also.
Your next life will have another chance to stop the vicious cycle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 960628


Wu wei literally mean non-ado...not karma.

Reincarnation is a fiction.
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OP,

I've been struggling with the concept of wu wei; whether I should go out there and grab life or whether I should sit back and let it all flow to me? If I was living a solitary life...I would choose the later...and I will in my sunset...but right now, with a wife and children...I find wu wei to be quite challenging...because of course wu wei translated to English can simply mean 'fuck you/it all'.

Thoughts
 Quoting: GDW 961218


Hello there.

You can flow along side the flow, within the flow, the flow without you, or through you. You can Be Not the flow, or Be the flow. There is no flow, is flow.

Love your family and be of service. Wu Wei is being conscious in the decision to act, and knowing the right way of action, without thinking or intellectualizing about it. In this way, the flow is shown to you.

I think you know the right way to proceed.





GLP