BREAKING - Gulf Oil Spill is Releasing Methane - I said it then and now is confirmed 5000:1

Another Craptastic post ;)
Patiently waiting for confirmation. If this is true an unchecked runaway methane volcano would be serious doom.

A better question would be: "How much of the well head, pipe, etc is left"?

I'll answer my own question by saying NONE!

It is an unbridled Oil Volcano.

So this is a man made problem. We tapped into the devils dome and now he has unleashed his fury upon us.

Al Gore was right.

your answer would be not very well informed then........too bad

methane was the main subject of the mark levin interview with "james"

Thread: ***audio interview with surviving oil rig worker was true!!!!

Last Edited by medfield on 05/08/2010 09:07 AM

Hey idiot, stop fear-mongering i said. Did you not see the released video? It's leaking out of a pipe is shown and is NOT A VOLCANO: [link to news.bbc.co.uk]

It's still a disaster but at least not a volcano.

Methane pocket did NOT cause it to explode, there is always methane pockets in oil drilling.
The blowout preventer failed, plus there is questions about the cementing job of Halliburton, as the same thing happened last here off Australia when Halliburon cemented a well and it was disclosed the poor cementing job caused it.

*year

CRAP, that is some scary stuff you said. Any idea of past explosions from this gas?

Thanks!

I have done some mild research. Methane is very common with oil deposits. Oil deposits under oceans, seas, ect contain more methane from the sea floor. The deeper the oil deposit, the more ocean life above that starts the process of methane generation and falls to the sea floor. Deeper deposits had more time to generate methane gases.

The oil released into the Gulf has an orange color. I am looking into that as I believe it may indicate a saturation of some sort. Could excessive methane create an orange color slick?

I'll post more when I find it. Anyone else who has info please report. As a massive methane release would spell Biblical Doom.

Imagine if a methane bomb running 600 miles in diameter were to explode. The shockwave would circle the Earth several times. The entire world would hear it and many will face deadly over pressure. Those in between will have blown out, bloody ears.

it would be much better if yall just searched the posts that were already created instead of being bleh......the james interview was reported a week ago and it seems to be turning out to be true, might want to do some research on the forum tooo!!!!!!!!!!!!










Last Edited by medfield on 05/08/2010 09:13 AM

You poor, poor sick phuck.

That is footage taken from an unrelated oil well!

YES EXACTLY, TOTALLY UNRELATED. It's taken from an Area51 oil well.

Idiot.

Here is a nice graphic to show what I am saying.

[link to www.gsfc.nasa.gov]

watch the videos....the show recording has been around a while......they explain the situation completely, this is only new news to those that wait to get it from the mainstream media

Last Edited by medfield on 05/08/2010 09:19 AM

Oh man this is gettin' scarier by the minute!

On May 3rd SHR posted this.
Thread: I think I have this Horizon disaster figured out...and it's NOT JUST a true blowout.

I think he was pretty 'right on' with it.

Yeah, and it is like the Earth said, "You all want oil/gas! I'll give you gas, take this, hahahaha!"

hair splitting does not make the situation any less catastrophic. idiot.

fkg A..i had a flash of "lake of fire" when i read this. hm, and i knew it was vial2(enter flamers)...and so this situation just looks more and more dire by the day.

this is better explaination

[link to online.wsj.com]

Oh I C wut they're doing.

IF this is true, which it might be, then this could give the go ahead for the nuclear detonation.

We're fucked...so fucking fucked.

No problem, just drop some BEANO in the gulf.

Quoting AC 530536:

"SPONTANEOUS IGNITION OF PRESSURIZED RELEASES OF HYDROGEN AND NATURAL GAS INTO AIR
Authors: Frederick L. Dryer a; Marcos Chaos a; Zhenwei Zhao a; Jeffrey N. Stein a; Jeffrey Y. Alpert a;Christopher J. Homer a
Affiliation: a Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering, Princeton University, Princeton, NJ

DOI: 10.1080/00102200600713583
Publication Frequency: 12 issues per year
Published in: Combustion Science and Technology, Volume 179, Issue 4 - 6 April 2007 , pages 663

Abstract
"This paper demonstrates the “spontaneous ignition” (autoignition/inflammation and sustained diffusive combustion) from sudden compressed hydrogen releases that is not well documented in the present literature, for which little fundamental explanation, discussion or research foundation exists, and which is apparently not encompassed in recent formulations of safety codes and standards for piping, storage, and use of high pressure compressed gas systems handling hydrogen. Accidental or intended, rapid failure of a pressure boundary separating sufficiently compressed hydrogen from air can result in multi-dimensional transient flows involving shock formation, reflection, and interactions such that reactant mixtures are rapidly formed and achieve chemical ignition, inflammation, and transition to turbulent jet diffusive combustion, fed by the continuing discharge of hydrogen. Both experiments and simple transient shock theory along with chemical kinetic ignition calculations are used to support interpretation of observations and qualitatively identify controlling gas properties and geometrical parameters. Although the phenomenon is demonstrated for pressurized hydrogen burst disk failures with different internal flow geometries, similar phenomena apparently do not necessarily occur for sudden boundary failures of storage vessel or transmission piping into open air that have no downstream obstruction. However, subsequent reflection of the resulting transient shock from surrounding surfaces through mixing layers of hydrogen and air may have the potential for producing ignition and continuing combustion. Much more experimental and computational work is required to quantitatively determine the envelope of parameter combinations that mitigate or enhance spontaneous ignition characteristics of compressed hydrogen as a result of sudden release, particularly if hydrogen is to become a major energy carrier interfaced with consumer use. Similar considerations for compressed methane, for mixtures of light hydrocarbons and methane (simulating natural gas), and for larger carbon number hydrocarbons show similar autoignition phenomena may occur with highly compressed methane or natural gas, but are unlikely with higher carbon number cases, unless the compressed source and/or surrounding air is sufficiently pre-heated above ambient temperature. Spontaneous ignition of compressed hydrocarbon gases is also generally less likely, given the much lower turbulent blow-off velocity of hydrocarbons in comparison to that for hydrogen.
Keywords: Hydrogen; Ignition; Natural gas; Pressure release; Safety; Shock "

This is in response to SHR who knows the first law of thermodynamics, cut and pasted of course, but has no idea why the rig caught on fire.

Now, as to why there are 3 oil leaks:

Here is why:

There are "two underwaterpipelines near the rig which have been shut down for fear that they might be hit by the sinking oil rig." Two underwater pipelines plus the one they were drilling equals three. Three oil leaks. nyha ha ha.

Actually, the oil rig didn't hit them, they probably were ttorn open by the force of the blowout.

So much for their riser story, huh? [link to mobile.latimes.com]

This is for the moron who just keeps going on about the depth of the well.

The seabed is 5,000 feet below the surface of the water. That is one mile.
They claim to have been drilling at 18,000 feet below the level of the seabed (a worker claimed more like 20+) that is something like 4 miles below the seabed, which is what I said.

I know you are just trying to shut this thread down because you are scared. You're scared that I'm saying things that might get you into trouble, or just cause trouble, so you have to try, in some retarded way, to discredit what I'm saying. But, I'm right.

Everything that you have been told about this is a huge lie. There was is nothing left intact under that oilrig after the blowout. There is no wellhead. There's nothing but a hole spewing oil and gas. All the crap about submarines fixing things is pure bullshit.

Did you ever wonder how they could possible see anything at a depth of 5,000 feet underwater in a sea that was filled with spewing oil? Oil. There had been oil spewing out of that location for at least four days before they acknowledged it. They had no way to know it was happening because there was no possible way in hell that they could see anything in those oil filled waters. The rig was holding 700,000 gallons of diesel oil in pontoons. They didn't know if what they were seeing on the surface was from the rig or from the well. They couldn't be sure for two days after it sank when they oil slick just kept growing. There is and never has been anything that could be manipulated below the surface of the water, but even if there was, they couldn't possibly find it visually in the thickly oiled waters.

My posts sure scare the hell out of you though don't they?

Guess I'm probably get banned again soon. Booga Booga."

Like shite it is.

Payback Time!

The next thing Gore is right about will be the first.

While the cause of the explosion is still under investigation, the sequence of events described in the interviews provides the most detailed account of the April 20 blast that killed 11 workers and touched off the underwater gusher that has poured more than 3 million gallons of crude into the Gulf.

Portions of the interviews, two written and one taped, were described in detail to an Associated Press reporter by Robert Bea, a University of California Berkeley engineering professor who serves on a National Academy of Engineering panel on oil pipeline safety and worked for BP PLC as a risk assessment consultant during the 1990s. He received them from industry friends seeking his expert opinion.

A group of BP executives were on board the Deepwater Horizon rig celebrating the project's safety record, according to the transcripts. Meanwhile, far below, the rig was being converted from an exploration well to a production well.

Based on the interviews, Bea believes that the workers set and then tested a cement seal at the bottom of the well. Then they reduced the pressure in the drill column and attempted to set a second seal below the sea floor. A chemical reaction caused by the setting cement created heat and a gas bubble which destroyed the seal.

Deep beneath the seafloor, methane is in a slushy, crystalline form. Deep sea oil drillers often encounter pockets of methane crystals as they dig into the earth.

As the bubble rose up the drill column from the high-pressure environs of the deep to the less pressurized shallows, it intensified and grew, breaking through various safety barriers, Bea said.

"A small bubble becomes a really big bubble," Bea said. "So the expanding bubble becomes like a cannon shooting the gas into your face."

Up on the rig, the first thing workers noticed was the sea water in the drill column suddenly shooting back at them, rocketing 240 feet in the air, he said. Then, gas surfaced. Then oil.

"What we had learned when I worked as a drill rig laborer was swoosh, boom, run," Bea said. "The swoosh is the gas, boom is the explosion and run is what you better be doing."


The gas flooded into an adjoining room with exposed ignition sources, he said.

"That's where the first explosion happened," said Bea, who worked for Shell Oil in the 1960s during the last big northern Gulf of Mexico oil well blowout. "The mud room was next to the quarters where the party was. Then there was a series of explosions that subsequently ignited the oil that was coming from below."

According to one interview transcript, a gas cloud covered the rig, causing giant engines on the drill floor to run too fast and explode. The engines blew off the rig and set "everything on fire," the account said. Another explosion below blew more equipment overboard.

BP spokesman John Curry would not comment Friday night on whether methane gas or the series of events described in the internal documents caused the accident.

"Clearly, what happened on the Deepwater Horizon was a tragic accident," said Curry, who is based at an oil spill command center in Robert, La. "We anticipate all the facts will come out in a full investigation."

The BP executives were injured but survived, according to one account. Nine rig crew on the rig floor and two engineers died.

"The furniture and walls trapped some and broke some bones but they managed to get in the life boats with assistance from others," said the transcript.

The reports made Bea, the 73-year-old industry veteran, cry.

"It sure as hell is painful," he said. "Tears of frustration and anger."

On Friday, a BP-chartered vessel lowered a 100-ton concrete-and-steel vault onto the ruptured well, an important step in a delicate and unprecedented attempt to stop most of the gushing crude fouling the sea.

"We are essentially taking a four-story building and lowering it 5,000 feet and setting it on the head of a pin," BP spokesman Bill Salvin told The Associated Press.

Underwater robots guided the 40-foot-tall box into place in a slow-moving drama. Now that the contraption is on the seafloor, workers will need at least 12 hours to let it settle and make sure it's stable before the robots can hook up a pipe and hose that will funnel the oil up to a tanker.

"It appears to be going exactly as we hoped," Salvin said on Friday afternoon, shortly after the four-story device hit the seafloor. "Still lots of challenges ahead, but this is very good progress."

By Sunday, the box the size of a house could be capturing up to 85 percent of the oil.

The task became increasingly urgent as toxic oil crept deeper into the bays and marshes of the Mississippi Delta.

A sheen of oil began arriving on land last week, and crews have been laying booms, spraying chemical dispersants and setting fire to the slick to try to keep it from coming ashore. But now the thicker, stickier goo - arrayed in vivid, brick-colored ribbons - is drawing ever closer to Louisiana's coastal communities.

There are still untold risks and unknowns with the containment box: The approach has never been tried at such depths, where the water pressure is enough to crush a submarine, and any wrong move could damage the leaking pipe and make the problem worse. The seafloor is pitch black and the water murky, though lights on the robots illuminate the area where they are working.

If the box works, another one will be dropped onto a second, smaller leak at the bottom of the Gulf.

At the same time, crews are drilling sideways into the well in hopes of plugging it up with mud and concrete, and they are working on other ways to cap it.

Investigators looking into the cause of the explosion have been focusing on the so-called blowout preventer. Federal regulators told The Associated Press Friday that they are going to examine whether these last-resort cutoff valves on offshore oil wells are reliable.

Blowouts are infrequent, because well holes are blocked by piping and pumped-in materials like synthetic mud, cement and even sea water. The pipes are plugged with cement, so fluid and gas can't typically push up inside the pipes.

Instead, a typical blowout surges up a channel around the piping. The narrow space between the well walls and the piping is usually filled with cement, so there is no pathway for a blowout. But if the cement or broken piping leaves enough space, a surge can rise to the surface.

There, at the wellhead of exploratory wells, sits the massive steel contraption known as a blowout preventer. It can snuff a blowout by squeezing rubber seals tightly around the pipes with up to 1 million pounds of force. If the seals fail, the blowout preventer deploys a last line of defense: a set of rams that can slice right through the pipes and cap the blowout.

Deepwater Horizon was also equipped with an automated backup system called a Deadman. It should have activated the blowout preventer even if workers could not.

Based on the interviews with rig workers, none of those safeguards worked.


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