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The BP Deep water horizon, Macondo Well Blowout. and what we are facing in the Gulf.

 
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I dont understand how anyone could be confused enough to think hydrates would form inside the well under pressure an extreme temperatures. SRH seems to have accumulated alot of knowledge about the SOME of the details of deep sea drilling, but he's not an expert and he has a ways to go before he can put it all together where it makes sense in his own mind. The speculation that is going on here is more fear momgering than trying to come up with a real solution. I think if we put as much time into trying to come up with a solution as we did crying about the situation, it would already be solved.
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I'm missing what it is that you're pissed about...
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this guy was here a week ago and said he had some oil industry expert he was interviewing. he asked the forum for questions and never posted any results.

butt sore attention whore?





I started the Seth Greenwood Talks to a Pro. And just so you know he was sent to DC in 91 and it was his idea that put out over 170 burning wells.
I spent a weekend of my time trying to put something together. Nobody from your camp gave it any time. I was trying to warn everybody.
It would appear the upper leadership of your oganization won't take an AC at face value as no higher ups would post.

Hey I tried, while the ocean died.
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Did you steal one of mine?

...didn't think there were any left.

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Protecting the beaches from the oil is a mistake.
all authority is given to me
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Let the oil soaked raggage begin!
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15 sec vid on what shearing in a BOP looks like(smaller diameter)
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05/15/2010 12:19 AM
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well i can tell you right now there is going to millions of people with out jobs along coast hell there isnt enough jobs now for everyone this has just begun folks the government cant support the ones rigfht now out of work.

and its vacation time to your going to see alot of coastal bussiness closing the doors down we might be in for bumpy ride already because of this thing
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05/15/2010 12:20 AM
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I dont understand how anyone could be confused enough to think hydrates would form inside the well under pressure an extreme temperatures. SRH seems to have accumulated alot of knowledge about the SOME of the details of deep sea drilling, but he's not an expert and he has a ways to go before he can put it all together where it makes sense in his own mind. The speculation that is going on here is more fear momgering than trying to come up with a real solution. I think if we put as much time into trying to come up with a solution as we did crying about the situation, it would already be solved.
 Quoting: Driller 970874

99.9% of us here are nobody that the people handling this mess will listen to.

Maybe you, as you seem to have connections in the industry, but I'm quite certain that an email or telephone call from Evil Twin, the conspiracy forum moderator/telecom & low voltage contractor would be ignored.
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Sometimes you just gotta think BIG, like if all else fails!
Take a newly constructed oil tanker, one about the size of a football field. Wedge the tanker between two aircraft
carriers. Install BOP's on the top of the tanker. Take
out the bottom of the tanker. Winch the tanker down over
the gusher, so the gusher and everything attached to it
is covered by the tanker. Let the oil and gas displace
the water inside the tanker hull, keep the BOP's open
while the feed pipes are attached. When the feed pipes are attached start feeding the gush through them to surface
tankers. The shear volume and size of the tanker should
provide an adequate space to start capturing the oil and gas immediately and provide time to attach the feed pipes.
If necessary run feed lines all the way to shore and start
filling previously exhausted oil wells, say, in Texas and
Louisiana. Problems of epic proportions require epic
solutions.
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Just One of My Haters....


Did you steal one of mine?

...didn't think there were any left.

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05/15/2010 12:21 AM
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they are drilling 2 relief wells now:
[link to www.cbc.ca]

this is the only real solution, all this other stuff is just PR spin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 970802

These are not relief wells nomatter what the article called them. there is NO intent to attempt to relieve pressure through these wells. BP claims they intend to seal up the blown out well and never use it again.
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05/15/2010 12:22 AM
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2nd relief well spuds sunday:
[link to www.upstreamonline.com]
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Protecting the beaches from the oil is a mistake.
 Quoting: Freethinker


Hey Freethinker hf

Where is your thinking on this?
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they cant do much with the drill string in the hole.

that is why the rams won't work- too much lateral pressure.

hope the relief well works 1st time or it could go on literally for years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 970802

The bop is designed to cut the drill string...not tool joints, but there cannot be a tool joint in front of every ram...and there are 4 sheer rams in this one...I don't think they know exactly why it failed, but I'm sure THAT will heavily investigated...I;ve bad configs...the rig didn't have updated schematics...maybe a test ram in there instead of a working ram...so who really knows why...I know when they test it...they don't usually test is with an actual drill string in there...so a lot of things could have went wrong...
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"These are not relief wells nomatter what the article called them"

i think you are a little green son.
go back to lease handing til you learn whats what.
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I dont understand how anyone could be confused enough to think hydrates would form inside the well under pressure an extreme temperatures. SRH seems to have accumulated alot of knowledge about the SOME of the details of deep sea drilling, but he's not an expert and he has a ways to go before he can put it all together where it makes sense in his own mind. The speculation that is going on here is more fear momgering than trying to come up with a real solution. I think if we put as much time into trying to come up with a solution as we did crying about the situation, it would already be solved.
 Quoting: Driller 970874

Dude...seriously you have been behaving like a gigantic know it all weenie...I seriously doubt you have drilled anything much more complicated than a hole in a fence and have just read a bunch of blogs...recently....I have seen you being just plain wrong and or full of shit MORE than once...so really....you go cry about it someplace else...you're starting to become annoying...
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I dont understand how anyone could be confused enough to think hydrates would form inside the well under pressure an extreme temperatures. SRH seems to have accumulated alot of knowledge about the SOME of the details of deep sea drilling, but he's not an expert and he has a ways to go before he can put it all together where it makes sense in his own mind. The speculation that is going on here is more fear momgering than trying to come up with a real solution. I think if we put as much time into trying to come up with a solution as we did crying about the situation, it would already be solved.
 Quoting: Driller 970874

Go home, Driller. Nobody thinks you are cool.
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Protecting the beaches from the oil is a mistake.
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A waste of resources?

I do think that it's mostly futile and just a PR measure, in the long run...but it delays the panic.
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Plugging it up is definitely of the utmost concern but we must also consider those behind it to be of equal or more importance. Remember how Larry whatever banked huge money from the property of the WTC buildings? Goldman Sachs is said to have done something similar with this oil spill. It makes one wonder.

Does someone know the future?

Or does someone know something we don't?

Either way, this and the coming events all point to humanity needing to come together and voice our unity as One. All else will fail IMO.

We are all beginning to understand the magnitude of this event. Those who dismiss it will know soon.
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SHR,

I commend you for your indepth analysis and knowledge of this subject.

I am a layman in this science, but I do known that Mother Nature can be as dire as anything we know of. And I assume you are old enough to remember the famous TV slogan, "It's not NICE to fool Mother Nature."

What you are saying (and quite correctly) is that this fucken thing could blow bigger than Mt. St Helen's.

One thing that I do know is my psychic self, and I can tell you, I've been working overtime trying to let off some steam. In short, this is big. Really big.

May the Force Be With You Always
And may God have mercy on us all.


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I keep thinking there must be a way to freeze the flow out. If hydrates are present they must be near the leak ( first containment box froze up on the sea bed) Maybe they need a similar box to do just that, FREEZE UP. Once the box is completly froze the leak should also be ?
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The important question is how much oil is under the leak.

...

Remaining proved reserves
Oil 2,203
Gas 3,401

Unproved reserves
Oil 651
Gas 1,935

[link to www.gomr.mms.gov]
 Quoting: SHR


That would be in 30 proved fields and 10 unproved fields in 2005.
(2,203+651)/(30+10)=71.35 million barrels per field average
2203/30=73.43

2006 figures: [link to www.gomr.mms.gov] Table 1
2175 million barrels proved oil reserves
3166 cubic feet proved gas
563 unproved oil
1936 unproved gas
40 proved fields
10 unproved fields
32.24 - 54.375 million per barrels per field average

[link to news.yahoo.com]
BP has not said how much oil is beneath the Gulf seabed Deepwater Horizon was tapping, but a company official speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the volume of reserves, confirmed reports that it was tens of millions of barrels — a frightening prospect to many.

"tens of millions" = 10-99 million

If it IS "tens of millions", then it cannot become the biggest oil disaster in history.
[link to www.foreignpolicy.com]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

If it is billions of barrels, then things look a lot worse.
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2nd relief well spuds sunday:
[link to www.upstreamonline.com]
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Ah...so they have a firm date now...last I read it was "Sometime soon"....I will update my OP...tnx..;)
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is there any way to get to a clean break in the well head and lower a pipe down from the surface with a hydralic clamp to clamp the 2 pipes together? i dont know if this could be done with the pressure thats coming out of there but aslong as at the surface it was left open ,guild it over the well head clamp them together then cap it from the top???
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Hey SHR, thank you soooo much for all your time you put into writing and researching this!

I have a question for you....I live in Georgia, is this consider too close for comfort?? Should I starting looking to other locations to possibly head to if this fails? Or, I am in a good clear area (North Georgia)

Thank you sooo much!!!

I am keeping one eye on the sky and the other on ground!

Fox
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Best outcome --We shut off the leak

Worst ELE
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well my crystal ball broke a long time ago :-)
but-
many wells have bown out over the past 100 years, and relief wells mostly seem to be the last resort with some chance of success.

some just don't get brought under control, and nature takes it's course.
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32.24 - 54.375 million per barrels* per field average
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*millions OF barrels
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This current event reminds me of another small hole that turned into a catastrophe...

Only thing is, this hole is probably doing just the opposite, eroding from the bottom up.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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I'm missing what it is that you're pissed about...

this guy was here a week ago and said he had some oil industry expert he was interviewing. he asked the forum for questions and never posted any results.

butt sore attention whore?


I started the Seth Greenwood Talks to a Pro. And just so you know he was sent to DC in 91 and it was his idea that put out over 170 burning wells.
I spent a weekend of my time trying to put something together. Nobody from your camp gave it any time. I was trying to warn everybody.
It would appear the upper leadership of your oganization won't take an AC at face value as no higher ups would post.

Hey I tried, while the ocean died.


Oh my God, now I really wanna puke. I'm fucking outta here.
I have no faith in GLP and am sorry I wasted my time.
Ban me now before I really say what's on my mind.





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Did you steal one of mine?

...didn't think there were any left.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 966765

Ahhh...now I see.

Apologies to angry interviewer guy. I was barely even here a week ago, as I was too busy with work.

I never saw the thread.

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It would already be solved.
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Then do it then.

Or STFU, already.
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