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Modern Israel is an Apostate unto God

 
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Modern Israel is an Apostate unto God
One reason for America's strong support of Israel exists because of weak theology in the pulpits which causes many in the evangelical Church to side with the modern day Israel, despite its wrongful actions against innocent Palestinians. They do so on a misunderstanding of God's Word to Abraham saying, "I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you; and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed." (Genesis 12:3) This was a blessing to Abraham and a promise of the Messiah. It was not a guarantee that an apostate nation would always be blessed, even when it rejected its Protector. God's Word is holy and He does not change.

Believers in the Christian Church are the new Israel entitled to God's blessings. The true Israel does not include the present secular state of Israel. "For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, 'In Isaac your seed shall be called.' That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed." (Romans 9:6-8) Our Lord Jesus Christ said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." John 14:6. Jews and Muslims can only come to the Father by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. There is no other way. Those who oppose God are His enemies. One is either for Him or against Him. There is no neutral zone. "God is a just judge, and God is angry with the wicked every day." (Psalm 7:11) Until the Jews in the secular state of Israel repent of their apostasy and return to the only true God through faith in His only Son, Jesus Christ, they are God's enemies. God's people (Christians) will do well not to ally themselves with His enemies.

The word is the word.
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05/19/2010 09:35 AM
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Re: Modern Israel is an Apostate unto God
we are told to "pray for the peace of Jerusalem" to bless and not to curse. no where does it say to stand with Israel as a country. they are enemies for the gospels sake but
but the elect for the father's sake.


The kings of the earth, and all the inhabitants of the world, would not have believed that the adversary and the enemy should have entered into the gates of Jerusalem.

and there you have it!
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05/19/2010 09:56 AM
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we are told to "pray for the peace of Jerusalem" to bless and not to curse. no where does it say to stand with Israel as a country. they are enemies for the gospels sake but
but the elect for the father's sake.


The kings of the earth, and all the inhabitants of the world, would not have believed that the adversary and the enemy should have entered into the gates of Jerusalem.

and there you have it!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 703302



Isaiah 8:14 "Then He shall become a sanctuary (Jesus Christ); But to both the houses of Israel, a stone to strike and a rock to stumble over, And a snare and a trap for the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

He who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed." Matthew 21:44, Luke 20:18

And do not think you can say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father.' I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. Matthew 3:9, Luke 3:8 "Therefore bear fruits in keeping with repentance, and do not begin to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham for our father,' for I say to you that from these stones God is able to raise up children to Abraham.

"He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. Matthew 12:30, Luke 11:23 What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul? Matthew 16:26
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05/19/2010 10:03 AM
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We have nearly 1,000,000 brothers and sisters in Israel. Children of the Promise. We stand for them, for God.

19 Therefore thus saith the LORD, If thou return, then will I bring thee again, and thou shalt stand before me: and if thou take forth the precious from the vile, thou shalt be as my mouth: let them return unto thee; but return not thou unto them. 20 And I will make thee unto this people a fenced brasen wall: and they shall fight against thee, but they shall not prevail against thee: for I am with thee to save thee and to deliver thee, saith the LORD. 21 And I will deliver thee out of the hand of the wicked, and I will redeem thee out of the hand of the terrible.
Jer 15:19-21 (KJV)
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05/19/2010 10:08 AM
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book
Noah was a conspiracy theorist too, until it started raining.
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it is the land

that is Holy Ground

Messiah will return there
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it is the land

that is Holy Ground

Messiah will return there
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And kick the fucking Khazar's out so the true Israelites can return.

Ooh Rah!
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Believers in the Christian Church are the new Israel entitled to God's blessings. The true Israel does not include the present secular state of Israel. "For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, 'In Isaac your seed shall be called.'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 361218

You see when a preacher says that modern day Israel is Jewish and the "seed" of that person or the "seed" of that person then they are admitting that to be a jew is a bloodline and so it could not be a religion. So a bloodline has nothing to do with god.

Then again if it is a bloodline then it should be able to be proved scientifically as being different than other bloodlines. so could someone tell me what that difference is? What is the difference in my non-jew blood and jew bllod? Put it this way, if we got the blood of 30 non-Jews and 30 Jews and put that blood in bottles and took those bottles to a lab, could they tell you who were the jews and who were the non-Jews? I don't think so. The bottom line is there is no suck thing as a Jew.


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05/21/2010 09:13 AM
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it is the land

that is Holy Ground

Messiah will return there


And kick the fucking Khazar's out so the true Israelites can return.

Ooh Rah!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 977025

Yes the true Israelites are the 10 northern lost tribes....the nation of Israel, not the nation of Judah.
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Nonsense..
We are but eternal spiritual beings living a temporary human experience.
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Re: Modern Israel is an Apostate unto God
One reason for America's strong support of Israel exists because of weak theology in the pulpits which causes many in the evangelical Church to side with the modern day Israel, despite its wrongful actions against innocent Palestinians. They do so on a misunderstanding of God's Word to Abraham saying, "I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you; and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed." (Genesis 12:3) This was a blessing to Abraham and a promise of the Messiah. It was not a guarantee that an apostate nation would always be blessed, even when it rejected its Protector. God's Word is holy and He does not change.

Believers in the Christian Church are the new Israel entitled to God's blessings. The true Israel does not include the present secular state of Israel. "For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, 'In Isaac your seed shall be called.' That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed." (Romans 9:6-8) Our Lord Jesus Christ said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." John 14:6. Jews and Muslims can only come to the Father by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. There is no other way. Those who oppose God are His enemies. One is either for Him or against Him. There is no neutral zone. "God is a just judge, and God is angry with the wicked every day." (Psalm 7:11) Until the Jews in the secular state of Israel repent of their apostasy and return to the only true God through faith in His only Son, Jesus Christ, they are God's enemies. God's people (Christians) will do well not to ally themselves with His enemies.

The word is the word.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 361218


True beleivers in Jesus Christ, true Christians, are far and few between. The modern psuedo 'Christian Church', especially the false prophets, the 'evangelicals' in America, are just as apostate as are the modern Israeli's. They openly disregard the ten commandments in their original meaning, and the commandments of Christ, and mandate others to do so as well under threat of the loss of their liberty and even their life! They openly teach their apostate ways in the public schools, in the media, etc.! One cannot remain a Jew, a Muslim, a Buddhist, Hindu, etc., and be a true Christian. The fact is, one cannot be an Israeli, an American, an Indian, or any other nationality for that matter, and be a true Christian. To be a true Christian one has to accept that Christ is who he was, and is, and will be forever, and that there is no other way for a human to be saved, which is to acknowledge and accept the 'doctrine of Christ'! There are millions and millions and millions of people, called the 'nations', who DO NOT acknowledge the 'doctrine of Christ'!





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