*Breaking* Gulf Disaster: Gulf Oil Spill May Be NINETEEN TIMES Bigger Than Originally Thought | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 975850 United States 05/20/2010 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *suprise!* How is this still breaking news? It has been happening for a while now.. And it will only stop when people get off their ass and do something about it. :grimace: Quoting: gravebynightRush said its no big deal |
ExhaleAeonVolts User ID: 810969 United States 05/20/2010 01:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm gonna post it now, & then link it back here. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexanIt'll be an ongoing first hand pictorial/testimony of what's happening to us. That is exactly what we need! And as I live one mile inland across a salt marsh vista, I will do my part. Well then if everyone does, we should wind up with quite an archive of first-hand no BS documentation. I'm pretty worn out tonight.. but I'll get it posted tomorrow. You need to begin the blogs posting your experience in your town with what you see, etc. It needed to start with pictures pre-spill and enduring spill. Pictures of the military, the Frustrated Fishermen... what is in the skies, the beaches, the waters, the roads and what is coming from the mouths of the locals. These BLOGS are required, if you have the time. Put ad space on it and make a bit of money, but record visually, verbally and with video the Reality at every day, every experience moments. He who controls the past controls the future, and he who controls the present controls the past. -1984 |
Nine's User ID: 960588 United States 05/20/2010 01:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will do some digging and get A list of their holdings and subsidiaries. Gonna be a long one for sure Quoting: UNThreddedHere you go. Scroll down. Surprise, surprise. [link to amadeus.bvdep.com (secure)] |
ExhaleAeonVolts User ID: 810969 United States 05/20/2010 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This after one month, tomorrow. What on Earth will we be seeing a month from now while they dither trying to figure out how to make a buck or two (billion) off the gusher. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexanYou have done yeoman's work Scrumptious Texan on reporting this. Thanks. I live on the curve of Georgia, I will check out my beaches on Monday and let you know if I see any signs of it washing up here. You just gave me an idea.. Anyone here (on GLP) that's on the coast & has a digital camera should document this & post it when this stuff starts to hit your area... We've already watched a MONTH of cover-ups... stuff we couldn't see or verify if we wanted to.. we just had to take their word on it. Well, when it starts washing-up affecting your area directly.. I think we're formidable enough to outstrip the MSM in real-time REAL coverage.. the Truth is important. This is going to be a months/years/FOREVER kinda thing.. one that'll worsen by the day for who knows how long.. I'm gonna start an 'Official' (never done one of those) GLP thread for GLPrs on the coast & in affected areas to post pics & stories... something we can all watch develop together from the 'first-hand' perspective without MSM filtering & lies.. GLPrs without accounts can upload & link their pics & vids & I'll embed/post them in the thread. I'm gonna post it now, & then link it back here. It'll be an ongoing first hand pictorial/testimony of what's happening to us. BLOG and Link it. Post the Videos and links to your Blog Sites on YouTube, Live Leak... GO VIRAL... Be the Phoenix of truth and information. A group of people in different coastal locations delivering the reality.... He who controls the past controls the future, and he who controls the present controls the past. -1984 |
redpill2010 User ID: 973796 United States 05/20/2010 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will do some digging and get A list of their holdings and subsidiaries. Gonna be a long one for sure Quoting: Nine's 960588Here you go. Scroll down. Surprise, surprise. [link to amadeus.bvdep.com (secure)] Global Ultimate Owner (qualification: UO-) - JP MORGAN CHASE & CO. US B - n.a. VD 12/2009 >< 99,106 2,031,989 |
redpill2010 User ID: 973796 United States 05/20/2010 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will do some digging and get A list of their holdings and subsidiaries. Gonna be a long one for sure Quoting: redpill2010Here you go. Scroll down. Surprise, surprise. [link to amadeus.bvdep.com (secure)] Global Ultimate Owner (qualification: UO-) - JP MORGAN CHASE & CO. US B - n.a. VD 12/2009 >< 99,106 2,031,989 suuuuprise suuuuprise suuuuprise |
Shark Skin Jacket User ID: 834519 United States 05/20/2010 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *Breaking* Quoting: ScrumpTheTexanGulf oil spill may be 19 times bigger than originally thought May 19, 2010 WASHINGTON — The latest glimpse of video footage of the oil spill deep under the Gulf of Mexico indicates that around 95,000 barrels, or 4 million gallons, a day of crude oil may be spewing from the leaking wellhead, 19 times the previous estimate, an engineering professor told Congress Wednesday. New BP underwater video of oil, gas gushing as spill spreads Russia Today May 19, 2010 The figure of 5,000 barrels, or 210,000 gallons, a day that BP and the federal government have been using for weeks is based on observations of the surface slick made by satellites and aircraft. Even NASA's satellite-based instruments, however, can't see deep into the waters of the gulf, where much of the oil from the gusher seems to be floating. The well is 5,000 feet below the surface. Read more: [link to www.mcclatchydc.com] HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BP CEO'S SHOULD BE ROUNDED UP AND FACE A FIRING SQUAD. BP = |
ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 05/20/2010 01:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You need to begin the blogs posting your experience in your town with what you see, etc. Quoting: ExhaleAeonVoltsIt needed to start with pictures pre-spill and enduring spill. Pictures of the military, the Frustrated Fishermen... what is in the skies, the beaches, the waters, the roads and what is coming from the mouths of the locals. These BLOGS are required, if you have the time. Put ad space on it and make a bit of money, but record visually, verbally and with video the Reality at every day, every experience moments. Those are great ideas, but I gave up blogging when I started posting here. I'm gonna post it here in a thread, & it can be updated over time as new pics/vids/stories come in from affected GLPrs. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 05/20/2010 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will do some digging and get A list of their holdings and subsidiaries. Gonna be a long one for sure Quoting: redpill2010Here you go. Scroll down. Surprise, surprise. [link to amadeus.bvdep.com (secure)] Global Ultimate Owner (qualification: UO-) - JP MORGAN CHASE & CO. US B - n.a. VD 12/2009 >< 99,106 2,031,989 suuuuprise suuuuprise suuuuprise Nothing surprises me anymore. .. Goldman Hedges Transocean (RIG) Just Weeks Before the Deepwater Horizon disaster [link to gozounlimited.newsvine.com] I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 975802 United States 05/20/2010 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This after one month, tomorrow. What on Earth will we be seeing a month from now while they dither trying to figure out how to make a buck or two (billion) off the gusher. Quoting: ExhaleAeonVoltsYou have done yeoman's work Scrumptious Texan on reporting this. Thanks. I live on the curve of Georgia, I will check out my beaches on Monday and let you know if I see any signs of it washing up here. You just gave me an idea.. Anyone here (on GLP) that's on the coast & has a digital camera should document this & post it when this stuff starts to hit your area... We've already watched a MONTH of cover-ups... stuff we couldn't see or verify if we wanted to.. we just had to take their word on it. Well, when it starts washing-up affecting your area directly.. I think we're formidable enough to outstrip the MSM in real-time REAL coverage.. the Truth is important. This is going to be a months/years/FOREVER kinda thing.. one that'll worsen by the day for who knows how long.. I'm gonna start an 'Official' (never done one of those) GLP thread for GLPrs on the coast & in affected areas to post pics & stories... something we can all watch develop together from the 'first-hand' perspective without MSM filtering & lies.. GLPrs without accounts can upload & link their pics & vids & I'll embed/post them in the thread. I'm gonna post it now, & then link it back here. It'll be an ongoing first hand pictorial/testimony of what's happening to us. BLOG and Link it. Post the Videos and links to your Blog Sites on YouTube, Live Leak... GO VIRAL... Be the Phoenix of truth and information. A group of people in different coastal locations delivering the reality.... :PhoenixRising: I was trying to find this picture of yours earlier.. the one you had, the map was under it.. it's amazing how similar they look.. could you re post it together? I looked for but couldn't find it together..thanks ... |
Texas Uncensored User ID: 975730 United States 05/20/2010 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Freeze the oil, really. Freeze it! Pick it up in slabs and oil cubes. I am serious. Read this. Thread: Wayne Madsen reports on the oil spill--read this and weep Last Edited by Texas Uncensored on 05/20/2010 01:39 AM **** PEACE **** UFO's @ [link to www.youtube.com] UFO photos & phenomena @ [link to www.picasaweb.google.com] MY GLP VIDEO CHANNEL * [link to video.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.futurequake.bravehost.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 975866 New Zealand 05/20/2010 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Burn the telly. boycott BP Heaven help us all, I am Praying. I am with rememberthis, don't own a TV, let alone watch TV, and I have given up driving my car,for nearly one year now. I shop local, and support my community stores, rather than large corporations. Every little bit helps, DOWN WITH THE CORPORATIONS TODAY! The thing is, this can and does happen everywhere, I have a couple of examples [/youtube] [link to www.youtube.com] This mud volcano has been erupting for six years, has anyone here even heard of it, most do not care unless its on there doorstep Peace |
Arcaneshift User ID: 975261 United States 05/20/2010 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That would have to mean that all measures to stem the flow of oil from one source have failed but in fact that the seafloor itself has undergone defamation increasing the out flow by many fissures with escaping pressurized oil vents somewhat like a volcano. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 860525 United States 05/20/2010 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Scrump, perhaps people could also report health effects on this new thread. Would be helpful for everyone in the affected areas to know about, and to take precautions. Might suggest that those affected get some activated carbon breathing masks (google search). Here is a list of what activated carbon is effective in removing (includes benzene and hydrogen sulfide): [link to www.surroundair.com] If the fumes get thick enough, they will eventually get indoors. Air purifiers with activated carbon filters linked at bottom. |
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UNThredded User ID: 837155 United States 05/20/2010 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will do some digging and get A list of their holdings and subsidiaries. Gonna be a long one for sure Quoting: redpill2010Here you go. Scroll down. Surprise, surprise. [link to amadeus.bvdep.com (secure)] Global Ultimate Owner (qualification: UO-) - JP MORGAN CHASE & CO. US B - n.a. VD 12/2009 >< 99,106 2,031,989 How befitting. The FEderal Reserve NWO golden boy Therein lies the Real key to the media silence. -Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty~Thomas Jefferson -Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe – Noah Webster |
ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 05/20/2010 01:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BLOG and Link it. Post the Videos and links to your Blog Sites on YouTube, Live Leak... Quoting: ExhaleAeonVoltsGO VIRAL... Be the Phoenix of truth and information. A group of people in different coastal locations delivering the reality.... That sounds great to me.. but it's about this Catastrophe, not me. :) GLP will be the 'Source' of anything that goes viral. Look.. we're the biggest group of take-pics-of-anything weird paranoids on the PLANET.. we're diverse in location and make-up, & nothing as a group, if not tenacious & committed... when GLPrs 'get their teeth into' something, it's pretty awesome. It'll (the thread) be the archive & discussion place of every first-hand piece of info that comes in, & over time & if everyone gets serious about documenting this thing first hand as it hits them & posting to the thread, it'll be pretty vast by the time this thing settles into whatever our new reality will be... with this disaster here now. Last Edited by ScrumpTheTexan on 05/20/2010 01:46 AM I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 975863 United States 05/20/2010 01:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a fucking conspiracy forum? And it has never occured to anyone here that this might not have been an accident? Now you have to rememeber the complexity of who benefitted from 911, it made alot of people who made money look guilty, and they were. Now who could have profitted from this ? WHo had a motive? THINK! There were two companies competing for the same godamned oil deposit, and it is huge. Figure it out already. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 975857 United States 05/20/2010 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I gotta say if nothing else, this proves peak oil to be a hoax. If a single well can produce more than the entire worldwide demand for oil (which is 85k barrels/day), there is no shortage of oil. That works out to about a cubic mile of oil per year. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 937801 United States 05/20/2010 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Gulf of Mexico, where i spent my entire childhood, fishing, playing on the beach, trips to Ship Island, Cat Island on my friends boats......its all gone. Quoting: GabrielThe Gulf is not gone. That is bullshit. This oil spill is a problem, yes. But it is temporary, not permanent. Duhhh! If the Gulf is "gone" then the Pacific is gone too, because of Exxon Valdez, which happened in one small corner of the Pacific. And the Persian Gulf is now gone too, it no longer exists in fact. Why? Because when Saddam Hussein set all of those oil well aflame at the end of the 1991 Gulf War, because he was pissed that he lost so miserably, the oil drained down through the Shatt Al Arab waterway and into the Persian Gulf, thus destroying it forever. Nope. Not gone and this whole thing is being way overhyped. Yes it is an environmental mess.. at present. But it WILL be cleaned up, the well will be capped, just like all of the other underwater oil wells that have blown up around the world in the past, the crisis will pass and eventually it will even be forgotten. Twenty years from now, when you ask kids who live in the region what they know about the great oil spill of 2010 they will say: "What oil spill? Oh wait, yeah, I think I heard something about that once.. in science class..." You will be able to go to Cat Island again. And by this time next year, someone could offer you $1 million if you can find one speck of oil from last year's spill and you'd still walk away penniless.. and frustrated.. unable to find a scrap. Even without the help of humankind, nature heals everything, sooner or later. And the Earth has seen calamities hundreds of millions of times more powerful and more damaging than this oil spill and has healed all of the damage completely, not leaving a trace. But humans are working day and night trying to limit the damage here so that is a bonus. Remember the great Ixtoc spill of 1979, in the Western Gulf of Mexico? Didn't think so because even though it plastered the beaches from deep into Mexico and all the way up to the Upper Texas coast with oil and countless huge blobs of tar, it is long disappeared now and not a trace remains. Here are some helpful links about oil spills in the past that the Earth.. and its delicate environment.. survived. [link to en.wikipedia.org] And here are links all about the Ixtoc spill, similar in nature to the current Deepwater Horizon spill: [link to www.wafb.com] [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Tatsuya User ID: 927728 United States 05/20/2010 01:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude, there are countless cubic feet of flammable gases rising into our atmosphere and a strong hurricane season rolling in that will be packing serious lighning and sprites. Quoting: CNWe may see our skies on fire and witness the hurricanes draw this oil up and destroy all the crops from the midwest to the eastern seaboard and contaminate half our nations water supply. It doesnt get much more serious than this Hmmmm...the spill has grown to near record proportions, just in time for hurricane season. Actually from what i know about evaporation, oil will prevent sea water from evaporating thus weakening hurricanes, however this is NOT a good thing, for one hurricanes are needed, even if they are overly destructive, they provide both much needed rainfall as well as have a cooling effect on the area they hit, second, and most importantly, it will cause rainfall to drop drastically in many areas of the continental united states, killing millions of crops that are near the atlantic and the gulf, so basically this could cause massive deaths from starvation and thirst. I don't even want to think about what will happen if the gases from this thing get carried into the american breadbasket by the jet stream. Either way this proves at least one thing, don't mess with mother nature, it doesn't like mankind. Either way, someone please tell me i'm wrong, however i don't believe i am. Last Edited by Tatsuya on 05/20/2010 01:57 AM One who chooses selfish actions has their reward, one who chooses selfless acts, also have their reward. |
ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 05/20/2010 01:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Scrump, perhaps people could also report health effects on this new thread. Would be helpful for everyone in the affected areas to know about, and to take precautions. Might suggest that those affected get some activated carbon breathing masks (google search). Here is a list of what activated carbon is effective in removing (includes benzene and hydrogen sulfide): [link to www.surroundair.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 860525If the fumes get thick enough, they will eventually get indoors. Air purifiers with activated carbon filters linked at bottom. That's a great idea, & you just gave me an idea. I'll reserve the first few posting slots for sorted sections of info/pics/vids/etc. So it'll come out w/ a Health Effects Reports/Precautions section, Gen Info section, Pics section, Vids section, & Stories/Testimonies section that I'll update as time goes on, all on page 1 of the thread. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 975863 United States 05/20/2010 01:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Gulf of Mexico, where i spent my entire childhood, fishing, playing on the beach, trips to Ship Island, Cat Island on my friends boats......its all gone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 937801The Gulf is not gone. That is bullshit. This oil spill is a problem, yes. But it is temporary, not permanent. Duhhh! If the Gulf is "gone" then the Pacific is gone too, because of Exxon Valdez, which happened in one small corner of the Pacific. And the Persian Gulf is now gone too, it no longer exists in fact. Why? Because when Saddam Hussein set all of those oil well aflame at the end of the 1991 Gulf War, because he was pissed that he lost so miserably, the oil drained down through the Shatt Al Arab waterway and into the Persian Gulf, thus destroying it forever. Nope. Not gone and this whole thing is being way overhyped. Yes it is an environmental mess.. at present. But it WILL be cleaned up, the well will be capped, just like all of the other underwater oil wells that have blown up around the world in the past, the crisis will pass and eventually it will even be forgotten. Twenty years from now, when you ask kids who live in the region what they know about the great oil spill of 2010 they will say: "What oil spill? Oh wait, yeah, I think I heard something about that once.. in science class..." You will be able to go to Cat Island again. And by this time next year, someone could offer you $1 million if you can find one speck of oil from last year's spill and you'd still walk away penniless.. and frustrated.. unable to find a scrap. Even without the help of humankind, nature heals everything, sooner or later. And the Earth has seen calamities hundreds of millions of times more powerful and more damaging than this oil spill and has healed all of the damage completely, not leaving a trace. But humans are working day and night trying to limit the damage here so that is a bonus. Remember the great Ixtoc spill of 1979, in the Western Gulf of Mexico? Didn't think so because even though it plastered the beaches from deep into Mexico and all the way up to the Upper Texas coast with oil and countless huge blobs of tar, it is long disappeared now and not a trace remains. Here are some helpful links about oil spills in the past that the Earth.. and its delicate environment.. survived. [link to en.wikipedia.org] And here are links all about the Ixtoc spill, similar in nature to the current Deepwater Horizon spill: [link to www.wafb.com] [link to en.wikipedia.org] Exactly, which makes me think this whole thing is goddamned psy op to get us to cut our own throats and demand offshore drilling be stopped. If we dont drill it, someone will. Its that simple. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 712829 United States 05/20/2010 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would like to thank Scrump and all the other posters who have been making such appreciated efforts to keep us all abreast and updated with all the awful news from the Gulf. Quoting: mI really do get all my news here, as lame as it sounds, and I am grateful to everyone here who is so generous with sharing information! Me too! Thanks |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 975863 United States 05/20/2010 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am wondering if this was done to finish our economy. |
ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 05/20/2010 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would like to thank Scrump and all the other posters who have been making such appreciated efforts to keep us all abreast and updated with all the awful news from the Gulf. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 712829I really do get all my news here, as lame as it sounds, and I am grateful to everyone here who is so generous with sharing information! Me too! Thanks I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 975857 United States 05/20/2010 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @AC SHILL #937801 The Ixtoc spill was 5k barrels/day. This spill could be 100k barrels/day, 20x larger. Ixtoc leaked for 9 months. Say this spill leaks for 4.5 months. Then were talking 10x the Ixtoc spill in terms of volume leaked. That kind of numbers are not trivial. Nobody knows what might happen if you spill so much oil into an ocean. In addition, a deep oil spill @5,000 ft may prove extremely hard to stop. The ixtoc spill was at a mere 165ft and it took all of 9 months to stop. The ultradeep well drilling which lead to this spill may complicate things further. Who knows how large or how high pressure a reservoir they tapped with this new well? |
we need you now GOD User ID: 952386 France 05/20/2010 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I must say this dear good folks OF OUR BELOVED glP,, DEARSTS GOD FORGER OF SUNS AND OF THE STARS PLEASE HELP US NOW!!,,WE NEED YOU NOW MORE THAN WE EVER HAVE,,i BEG AND PRAY YOU CAN HEAR OUR PAYERS..BRING YOUR GRACIOUS BLESSING UPON US..DONT LET US SLIP INTO THE DARKNESS,,BANISH THE SERPENTS OF THE DARK THAT BESEECH US,,please god I beg you. I aM sorry. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 975863 United States 05/20/2010 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I gotta say if nothing else, this proves peak oil to be a hoax. If a single well can produce more than the entire worldwide demand for oil (which is 85k barrels/day), there is no shortage of oil. That works out to about a cubic mile of oil per year. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 975857Dude, youre full of shit. In the united states alone, we use millions of barrels of oil a day. What are you on, anti depressants? Flourides? Dumbass -Driller |