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In an ad released earlier this month, which you can watch at left, Alabama gubernatorial candidate Bradley Byrne is attacked for suggesting that evolution, as opposed to creationism, "best explains the origin of life."

The spot, from a shadowy group called the "True Republican PAC," also criticizes Byrne for suggesting the Bible is "only partially true."

Byrne, a former Democrat, is one of a number of candidates for the Republican nomination, and his opponents include "ten commandments judge" Roy Moore and Tim James, who last month released an ad in which he said, "We speak English. If you want to live here, learn it."

In a response, Byrne said the ad was filled with "despicable lies" - and insisted he is no opponent of creationism.

"As a Christian and as a public servant, I have never wavered in my belief that this world and everything in it is a masterpiece created by the hands of God," he said. "As a member of the Alabama Board of Education, the record clearly shows that I fought to ensure the teaching of creationism in our school text books. Those who attack me have distorted, twisted and misrepresented my comments and are spewing utter lies to the people of this state."

He also said that, contrary to the ad's claims, he believes "every single word" of the Bible is true.


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How dare a Rebuplican believe in science chuckle
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It's politics. Everyone gets attacked for their beliefs, no matter what they are.
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It's politics. Everyone gets attacked for their beliefs, no matter what they are.
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Why I find this scary is that people will take his belief in science as a negative ... have we reached a point where if someone believes that the earth revolves around in sun they aren't qualified to run for office?
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Why I find this scary is that people will take his belief in science as a negative

That's because if science were better understood in Alabama
most of the people there would be horrified to learn that they
are terribly inbreed, and worst of all there are people with
dark skin color in the family tree!
 Quoting: DrPostman



Heaven forbid!
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Here is a scary guy also running in 'bama


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Why I find this scary is that people will take his belief in science as a negative

That's because if science were better understood in Alabama
most of the people there would be horrified to learn that they
are terribly inbreed, and worst of all there are people with
dark skin color in the family tree!
 Quoting: DrPostman

Ah yes. Of course. Anyone that believes in creationism is obviously an inbred redneck racist white trash.
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How dare a Rebuplican believe in science chuckle
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

well, which is it... does he believe in science or in evolution?
The theory of evolution is idiotic and absolutely not scientific in any way.

Evolution is a religion. You have to believe in it, because there is no supporting evidence whatsoever.

If a candidate believes in the myth of evolution, I think it is a valid subject to expose because it shows the candidate is not very educated or informed on science or reality.
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Why I find this scary is that people will take his belief in science as a negative

That's because if science were better understood in Alabama
most of the people there would be horrified to learn that they
are terribly inbreed, and worst of all there are people with
dark skin color in the family tree!

Ah yes. Of course. Anyone that believes in creationism is obviously an inbred redneck racist white trash.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 978302


That's about it!
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How dare a Rebuplican believe in science chuckle

well, which is it... does he believe in science or in evolution?
The theory of evolution is idiotic and absolutely not scientific in any way.

Evolution is a religion. You have to believe in it, because there is no supporting evidence whatsoever.
If a candidate believes in the myth of evolution, I think it is a valid subject to expose because it shows the candidate is not very educated or informed on science or reality.
 Quoting: Majestic


There is tons and tons of supporting evidence



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Ah yes. Of course. Anyone that believes in creationism is obviously an inbred redneck racist white trash.


That's about it!
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

Who knew that you were a bigot?
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Why I find this scary is that people will take his belief in science as a negative

That's because if science were better understood in Alabama
most of the people there would be horrified to learn that they
are terribly inbreed, and worst of all there are people with
dark skin color in the family tree!

Ah yes. Of course. Anyone that believes in creationism is obviously an inbred redneck racist white trash.


That's about it!
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

People like you make me sick, your the kind of people that believe religion should be wiped out and any adherents to it should be butchered or brainwashed.

You need to look into the mirror before you start insulting people's beliefs lady.

Fyi, i'm from the south, not inbred, believe it or not, i can trace my bloodline back to crazy horse, george washington, robert E. lee, the royal bloodline of england, and back all the way to ireland and germany, no imbreeding here, sorry.
Might want to check yours though, since obviously something has made you be so spiteful.
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Maybe they should attack the people who are teaching evolution. And I believe in evolution to an extent. I don't think we came from amoebas or monkeys, but I do believe God created all creatures with an ability to adapt to changing environments.

It's a moot point to attack a candidate for something he was taught in high school and college. They should be attacking the institutions that teach these misconceptions, and the people supporting the science.
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Ah yes. Of course. Anyone that believes in creationism is obviously an inbred redneck racist white trash.


That's about it!

Who knew that you were a bigot?
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What can I say I lived in Alabama for two years ... some of it rubbed off.
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People like you make me sick, your the kind of people that believe religion should be wiped out and any adherents to it should be butchered or brainwashed.

You mean like a lot of Christians would love to do to atheists
if they could have their way and go back to the good old
killing times just a couple centuries ago?
 Quoting: DrPostman

Did i say athiests?
I said "people like you".
My best friend is an athiest, however unlike you 2 he has no spite towards religion in general, he just doesn't believe in it.

There are bad apples in both bunches, and both sides i hate.
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How dare a Rebuplican believe in science chuckle

well, which is it... does he believe in science or in evolution?
The theory of evolution is idiotic and absolutely not scientific in any way.

Evolution is a religion. You have to believe in it, because there is no supporting evidence whatsoever.

If a candidate believes in the myth of evolution, I think it is a valid subject to expose because it shows the candidate is not very educated or informed on science or reality.
 Quoting: Majestic


Bravo!!!!!
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Why I find this scary is that people will take his belief in science as a negative

That's because if science were better understood in Alabama
most of the people there would be horrified to learn that they
are terribly inbreed, and worst of all there are people with
dark skin color in the family tree!

Ah yes. Of course. Anyone that believes in creationism is obviously an inbred redneck racist white trash.


That's about it!

People like you make me sick, your the kind of people that believe religion should be wiped out and any adherents to it should be butchered or brainwashed.

You need to look into the mirror before you start insulting people's beliefs lady.

Fyi, i'm from the south, not inbred, believe it or not, i can trace my bloodline back to crazy horse, george washington, robert E. lee, the royal bloodline of england, and back all the way to ireland and germany, no imbreeding here, sorry.
Might want to check yours though, since obviously something has made you be so spiteful.
 Quoting: Tatsuya


I don't think people who believe in religion should be butchered or brainwashed ... I just think they need to join us in the 21st century.

As for heritage you would be hard pressed to find anyone who is more southern than me. I was married in a Civil War Period home in Mobile and the wedding was done completely the same way they were in the south during the civil war and no one was wearin' blue!

I also worked on movies like "Glory", "Gettysburg" and "Gods and Generals"
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Did i say athiests?
I said "people like you".
My best friend is an athiest, however unlike you 2 he has no spite towards religion in general, he just doesn't believe in it.
There are bad apples in both bunches, and both sides i hate.

I thank God every day that I'm a Deist and don't have to get
hung up and stressed out over a 2,000 year old book. Where
do you get that I am spiteful towards religion? I'm a bit
spiteful towards racist backwards Luddites that live in the
South, but not religion as a whole. Aren't you making some
rather large assumptions here?
 Quoting: DrPostman

Not quite, your attacking people's beliefs, intentionally or not.

People vote with their beliefs, athiests, deists, christians, muslims, etc.

This thread is basically attacking people for practicing their right to vote because their religion might sway them, while the ad may be in bad taste, if it's true, people will care, and in the way this country was built, people are allowed the freedom of voting for who they wish to, based on what they want their leaders to do, unless of course, you believe all polls are fixed.

I don't agree with abortion, however i don't insult people who have had them, it's not my place to judge anyone's rights.
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Why I find this scary is that people will take his belief in science as a negative

That's because if science were better understood in Alabama
most of the people there would be horrified to learn that they
are terribly inbreed, and worst of all there are people with
dark skin color in the family tree!

Ah yes. Of course. Anyone that believes in creationism is obviously an inbred redneck racist white trash.


That's about it!

People like you make me sick, your the kind of people that believe religion should be wiped out and any adherents to it should be butchered or brainwashed.

You need to look into the mirror before you start insulting people's beliefs lady.

Fyi, i'm from the south, not inbred, believe it or not, i can trace my bloodline back to crazy horse, george washington, robert E. lee, the royal bloodline of england, and back all the way to ireland and germany, no imbreeding here, sorry.
Might want to check yours though, since obviously something has made you be so spiteful.


I don't think people who believe in religion should be butchered or brainwashed ... I just think they need to join us in the 21st century.

As for heritage you would be hard pressed to find anyone who is more southern than me. I was married in a Civil War Period home in Mobile and the wedding was done completely the same way they were in the south during the civil war and no one was wearin' blue!

I also worked on movies like "Glory", "Gettysburg" and "Gods and Generals"
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

Are you not the person who called for the destruction of all christian rights in this country?

Either way, at best what you said is basically akin to calling every christian an idiot, just because they aren't atheists, at worst you akin christanity with something that should be wiped out.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
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It's a moot point to attack a candidate for something he was taught in high school and college. They should be attacking the institutions that teach these misconceptions, and the people supporting the science.

And replace it with what? Do you realize that evolution as
taught in schools now is interdisciplinary science and is
supported by most scientists on this planet? It's only in
the US where this is a conflict.
 Quoting: DrPostman

And you are arguing with what? I just said I believe God created all creatures with the ability to adapt to changing environments.

And you guys say that Christians are unreasonable. Hey at least we are willing to make concessions. I will concede that man has evolved. Now, I have to believe in evolution according to Dr. Postman to be have a logical thought process without the need for correction by Dr. Postman.

The problem with most Darwinists is the need for ABSOLUTE control over other people's thought process. Control which most Christians don't require from you. Hey we will even make some concessions which I do when I say that I believe in the Big Bang, and that I believe that God created man with the ability to adapt.
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Did i say athiests?
I said "people like you".
My best friend is an athiest, however unlike you 2 he has no spite towards religion in general, he just doesn't believe in it.
There are bad apples in both bunches, and both sides i hate.

I thank God every day that I'm a Deist and don't have to get
hung up and stressed out over a 2,000 year old book. Where
do you get that I am spiteful towards religion? I'm a bit
spiteful towards racist backwards Luddites that live in the
South, but not religion as a whole. Aren't you making some
rather large assumptions here?

Not quite, your attacking people's beliefs, intentionally or not.

People vote with their beliefs, athiests, deists, christians, muslims, etc.

This thread is basically attacking people for practicing their right to vote because their religion might sway them, while the ad may be in bad taste, if it's true, people will care, and in the way this country was built, people are allowed the freedom of voting for who they wish to, based on what they want their leaders to do, unless of course, you believe all polls are fixed.

I don't agree with abortion, however i don't insult people who have had them, it's not my place to judge anyone's rights.
 Quoting: Tatsuya


They have the right to believe as they wish but attacking someone because they believe in evolution in this day an age I find very scary ... it like we are going back to the time of the Scopes trial.
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Here is a scary guy also running in 'bama


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What's scary about him? What did he say with which you disagree?
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Re: Alabama Gov. Candidate Attacked for Belief in Evolution
Simple fact is that I can prove God exists. If you read my blog over time I will show you evidence of Divine inspiration.

And if I can prove inspiration I can prove the God behind it, thereby proving the Biblical interpretation of how man came to be.

Regardless of what version of evolution they teach in public schools.
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Why I find this scary is that people will take his belief in science as a negative

That's because if science were better understood in Alabama
most of the people there would be horrified to learn that they
are terribly inbreed, and worst of all there are people with
dark skin color in the family tree!

Ah yes. Of course. Anyone that believes in creationism is obviously an inbred redneck racist white trash.


That's about it!

People like you make me sick, your the kind of people that believe religion should be wiped out and any adherents to it should be butchered or brainwashed.

You need to look into the mirror before you start insulting people's beliefs lady.

Fyi, i'm from the south, not inbred, believe it or not, i can trace my bloodline back to crazy horse, george washington, robert E. lee, the royal bloodline of england, and back all the way to ireland and germany, no imbreeding here, sorry.
Might want to check yours though, since obviously something has made you be so spiteful.


I don't think people who believe in religion should be butchered or brainwashed ... I just think they need to join us in the 21st century.

As for heritage you would be hard pressed to find anyone who is more southern than me. I was married in a Civil War Period home in Mobile and the wedding was done completely the same way they were in the south during the civil war and no one was wearin' blue!

I also worked on movies like "Glory", "Gettysburg" and "Gods and Generals"

Are you not the person who called for the destruction of all christian rights in this country?

Either way, at best what you said is basically akin to calling every christian an idiot, just because they aren't atheists, at worst you akin christanity with something that should be wiped out.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
 Quoting: Tatsuya


I never called for the destruction of all christian rights in this country!

I think they are too powerful and trying to turn the United States into a theocracy, which would mean my imprisonment and/or death.

I am not calling all Christians an idiots ... ust the ones that think a 2,000 year old book trumps any science that disagrees with it.
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Re: Alabama Gov. Candidate Attacked for Belief in Evolution
Not quite, your attacking people's beliefs, intentionally or not.

The problem is when people try to trump science with their
religious beliefs for everyone else.


 Quoting: DrPostman


Religion is taught in our public schools. Creationist views are unwelcome. One side is presented. And students are not given a choice.

In a nation that stands for freedom, that is unfair to the young minds who are subjected to this one-sided debate.

Many of their moral choices are going to be based on that belief. Not only will their standing in life be graded upon those choices, but their salvation will also depend on the concepts taught in our public schools.

There is no separation of church and state as long as Darwinists have present a one-sided approach to teaching students the nature of their origin.

In a nation which was based on the separation of church and state Darwin evolutionist theories stand as an affront to the separation of church and state, because in and of itself Darwinian evolution is a religion.
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Here is a scary guy also running in 'bama



What's scary about him? What did he say with which you disagree?
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What scares me is how he swings a gun around lie he is gettin' ready for an old west shootout.
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Did i say athiests?
I said "people like you".
My best friend is an athiest, however unlike you 2 he has no spite towards religion in general, he just doesn't believe in it.
There are bad apples in both bunches, and both sides i hate.

I thank God every day that I'm a Deist and don't have to get
hung up and stressed out over a 2,000 year old book. Where
do you get that I am spiteful towards religion? I'm a bit
spiteful towards racist backwards Luddites that live in the
South, but not religion as a whole. Aren't you making some
rather large assumptions here?

Not quite, your attacking people's beliefs, intentionally or not.

People vote with their beliefs, athiests, deists, christians, muslims, etc.

This thread is basically attacking people for practicing their right to vote because their religion might sway them, while the ad may be in bad taste, if it's true, people will care, and in the way this country was built, people are allowed the freedom of voting for who they wish to, based on what they want their leaders to do, unless of course, you believe all polls are fixed.

I don't agree with abortion, however i don't insult people who have had them, it's not my place to judge anyone's rights.


They have the right to believe as they wish but attacking someone because they believe in evolution in this day an age I find very scary ... it like we are going back to the time of the Scopes trial.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

And christianity, islam, bhuddism and other such religions arent?

The genocide of tibetians by china is one of the easier ones, stalin another.

What's going on here is, like it or not, a act of freedom, if you were in vermont for example, noone would care, or very few would, however alabama is in the bible belt, and as i said before, people vote for who they believe will best serve "their" interests, not yours, not mine, but theirs.

Unless you want a communist country or imperial dictatorship, your gonna have to live with the fact that not everyone will agree on the importance of religion, science or what have you.

I did not mean to come across as rude as i did, however it probably wasn't a good idea to come into a thread like this after watching one of dawkins videos.
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Not quite, your attacking people's beliefs, intentionally or not.

The problem is when people try to trump science with their
religious beliefs for everyone else.




Religion is taught in our public schools. Creationist views are unwelcome. One side is presented. And students are not given a choice.

In a nation that stands for freedom, that is unfair to the young minds who are subjected to this one-sided debate.

Many of their moral choices are going to be based on that belief. Not only will their standing in life be graded upon those choices, but their salvation will also depend on the concepts taught in our public schools.

There is no separation of church and state as long as Darwinists have present a one-sided approach to teaching students the nature of their origin.

In a nation which was based on the separation of church and state Darwin evolutionist theories stand as an affront to the separation of church and state, because in and of itself Darwinian evolution is a religion.
 Quoting: Profit 6


It's evolution not "Darwinism'!

Creationism has no scientific basis!
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Here is a scary guy also running in 'bama

What's scary about him? What did he say with which you disagree?


What scares me is how he swings a gun around lie he is gettin' ready for an old west shootout.
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Guns are scary!!
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Every rancher worth his salt keeps a rifle handy. It's just a tool of the trade.
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Creationism has no scientific basis!
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Neither does inspiration, but it exists.





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