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Anonymous Coward User ID: 981912 Malaysia 05/26/2010 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vegetarians murder plants for food. Have you ever heard a carrot sobbing for its life, begging not to be killed? Have you heard the screams of lettuce when vegetarians tear their leaves off? Quoting: Amonymous Coward 981691Yes it's true, plants are alive. Vegetarians murder plants just for "food" as they call it. The Plant Liberation Society is planning to raid some of these "Vegetarian Food Farms" and free the vegetables which are trapped in there under appalling conditions. Carrots, one of the most sensitive plants, are actually buried in dirt up to their green leafy bits to stop them from walking around happily. Vegetarians say the carrots like being buried, but everybody knows that isn't true. Vegetarians also rip fruit off trees, causing the trees great pain and suffering. There are many more awful things that vegetarians do to plants, but it's just too much to post them all here. Vegetarians say they love plants, but if they really loved plants, WHY WOULD THEY KILL THEM? Why would they "farm" plants under such awful conditions??? FREE THE PLANTS!! The Plant Liberation Society WILL NOT REST until all plants in the world are set free!!! STOP THE VEGETARIAN MADNESS AND CRUELTY TO PLANTS!!! RIGHT ON, BROTHER !!! IT'S TIME TO DRIVE A STAKE INTO THE PETA CAMP !! THEM PETA HYPOCRITES ARE MURDERERS, PLANT MURDERERS !!!! |
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Woodsprite User ID: 978911 Sweden 05/26/2010 05:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's not a black and white situation OP; it's a matter of degree. no one is free from being a hypocrite. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 981811the fact is that eating plants is less immoral than eating meat. the plant kingdom is far different than the animal kingdom in terms of consciousness. an animal is an individual. a plant is more like an extension of Nature as its life is completely dependent on the Earth and the Sun. Plants are more Sentient than you know....they are individuals , just like Mammals and reptiles, birds.. They just aren't as vocal or mobile as the others...why people think they have no real feelings, or intelligence. People should treat them with more respect than we do...like asking permission to pick their fruit...thank them for the life giving sustenance they are giving us when they give us their lives...so we can live. Plants would not respond to the threat of danger ( they move their leaves away best they can), or the sound of Classical music if they were not sentient, feeling , living things. Science has proven plants do both of these things.. So, I agree...all those Vegetarians and Vegans out there that think they are being such wonderful people by not killing something to live...are wrong...they are killing daily, and without remorse or regret...and most with little or no appreciation of what the plant has given up for them. The plants are giving you either their lives, or the lives of their "children" when they are harvested, or the seeds ( nuts, sprouts) are taken and consumed. You'd think the least these "supposedly" good people could do, would be to recognize that sacrifice, and honor it with respect. Maybe if humans had been like this, the plants would not have developed ways to defend themselves from the killers...and we wouldn't have all of these rampant "food allergies" that we see today. In years gone by...never used to hear of such extreme reactions to eating, nuts, wheat, ect. It isn't the Humans changing, becoming more 'sensitive" to the food.... It is the plant trying to protect it's self...trying to make it "undesirable" to us Human killers...so we will stop killing it without remorse or regret. Humans need to get a clue! Creator did not just instill these things in Humans and Mammals...it was put into EVERYTHING that was created, when it was created. |
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Nyhee7 User ID: 980964 United States 05/26/2010 06:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, plants may feel pain. And in a way, they can scream too, no joke. [link to www.discovery.org] |
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Jolie User ID: 979967 Portugal 05/26/2010 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its OK to kill plants and animals for eating IF you treat your animals and plants with respect and give them a bless and show apreciation to them. Now,if you treat them bad (this is aplied mainly to animals),dont feed them properly (like cows eating rests of other animals,not grass,what originate mad cow disease) and be killed with no "humanity" and respect,then problems come after you!thats one of the causes why we see so much diseases! Now plants are different because yes they are living,but have no conscious state of mind...they are just organic life,but still respond to our feelings and intentions!! (Masaru Emoto - Experiences with water and thought, we are ALL mostly 70%water) Before you eat anything,apreciate it and be thankful for your meal and show some respect for the animal/plant that was killed for you to eat and believe me,it will make you a lot of good!Intention has a great power! Just one more thing for you to think: If we were ALL vegetarians,there would not be enough land/vegetables for 6 billion to eat!thats why we have to continue to kill animals for eating....unfortunetly... |
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Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 953527 United Kingdom 05/26/2010 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's not the worst of it. When they buy commercially farmed food they are supporting additional murder economically. Don't they know they are paying farmers to plow fields killing hundreds of cute mice, ground squirrels, rats, snakes, ground nesting birds and all sorts of other animals?? Quoting: ADENDThis is the problem, even soy harvesting destroys animal habitiat ( the field ) and potentially kills lots of small animals with the combine harvester. I abstain from eating mass produced red meat because of the cruelty in industrialized farming, i only eat poultry thats free range and fish. I hate animal cruelty myself, but you cannot eliminate animal cruelty by virtue of human life existing, the very nature of human existance is detrimental to the lives and habbit of animals. Vegetarian or Vegan from a philsophical standpoint is irrational because IMO it doesnt really achieve anything other than a false feeling of moral achievement, animals still suffer. The best way to live is to raise your own fruit and veg and raise your own chickens, pigs, goats and sheep. Atheist |
Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 953527 United Kingdom 05/26/2010 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vegetarian/Vegan from a philsophical standpoint is irrational because IMO it doesnt really achieve anything other than a false feeling of moral achievement, animals still suffer. Quoting: Dr.Walter.BishopI good example is the support of the petrochemical industry, vegans sometimes need synthetic clothes, many of these are produced from plastics which need to be refined from oil based products, look at the gulf oil spill, how many animals died because of that, vegans might say that was an isolated event, but we all know its not. Some vegans might be very aware and refuse even synthetic plastic clothes, they may settle for hemp cloth or even wooden shoes like clogs, however this still requires effort to produce, tractors, chainsaws and power tools all require petrochemicals to run, they require tools to process, and they both destory animal habbitat when harvesting. Atheist |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 981811 Brazil 05/26/2010 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | plants with intelligence and feelings???. ha ha ha planets are part of the nature spirit . when you communicate with plants you are commutating with the spirit, or the forest spirit, or even the planetary spirit. you are confusing things if you think that there is an actual being "stuck" inside every single cellulose structure. ha ha ha if that was true, then the slaughter of plants would be even greater than the slaughter of animals. it's ridiculous to try to put vegetarians and meat eaters at the same level. I'm not vegetatarian nor vegan, nor meat eater. I just see food for what it is: matter. I ate some fish (very little) last week! who cares? I'm actually striving to become breatharian, but let me tell you something: show me ONE spiritual meat eater,, spiritual, not full of mysticism or religion bullshit..... I bet there is none. plants are much more connected to natural and more spiritual energy sources such as the Sun. they fixate energy from the sun directly. eating animals is to eat highly processed energy that has been lowered down in vibration and purity. |
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Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 953527 United Kingdom 05/26/2010 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's not a black and white situation OP; it's a matter of degree. no one is free from being a hypocrite. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 981811the fact is that eating plants is less immoral than eating meat. the plant kingdom is far different than the animal kingdom in terms of consciousness. an animal is an individual. a plant is more like an extension of Nature as its life is completely dependent on the Earth and the Sun. What about fungi then? Fungi are much more closely related to animals than plants, its been genetically proven with studies into RNA, i dont see vegans and veggies giving up mushrooms, because they think they are vegetables, they are infact not even a member of the plant family. Atheist |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 981811 Brazil 05/26/2010 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm actually striving to become breatharian Quoting: Dr.Walter.BishopProof you are a complete fuckwit, and that nobody should take anything you say in this thread seriously. if you don't take your own body seriously, nor matters of vibration and consciousness seriously, then I don't expect you to take anything seriously. you're just drifting in a sea of ignorance. anyway, breatharian is a funny word indeed. a label. what I'm striving to become goes a little beyond 'breatharian'. have you heard about self-sufficiency? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 929725 Turkey 05/26/2010 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vegetarians murder plants for food. Have you ever heard a carrot sobbing for its life, begging not to be killed? Have you heard the screams of lettuce when vegetarians tear their leaves off? Quoting: Amonymous Coward 981691Yes it's true, plants are alive. Vegetarians murder plants just for "food" as they call it. The Plant Liberation Society is planning to raid some of these "Vegetarian Food Farms" and free the vegetables which are trapped in there under appalling conditions. Carrots, one of the most sensitive plants, are actually buried in dirt up to their green leafy bits to stop them from walking around happily. Vegetarians say the carrots like being buried, but everybody knows that isn't true. and thats why conscious vegetarians do not eat anything that causes the individual plant to die. i, for example, only eat stuff like bread (wheat dies off naturally), or beans (beans are fruits of the particular bean plant) and such. Vegetarians also rip fruit off trees, causing the trees great pain and suffering. There are many more awful things that vegetarians do to plants, but it's just too much to post them all here. Quoting: Amonymous Coward 981691making arguments out of one's ass also causes pain. but not to the one making them - to the ones reading it ... fruits are designed to be ripped off. its the fruit bearing plants' system of reproduction and multiplication. that is why they stand on tiny stalks while they grow, so that when the fruit is fully grown, the stalk can die off, rot, and fruit can drop. numerous plant species rely on animals to propagate their seeds. a particular tree in southeastern asia (if im remembering the location right) has its fruits designed to be eaten by herbivores. seeds do not dissolve in that particular herbivore's system, and instead they are excremented while they wander around, spreading the seeds immensely far. fruit is one of the (at least known to us) furthest mutually symbiotic relationships created by nature. |
Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 953527 United Kingdom 05/26/2010 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if you don't take your own body seriously, nor matters of vibration and consciousness seriously, then I don't expect you to take anything seriously. you're just drifting in a sea of ignorance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 981811anyway, breatharian is a funny word indeed. a label. what I'm striving to become goes a little beyond 'breatharian'. have you heard about self-sufficiency? Contact me when you have proven the law of conservation of energy wrong dude. Until then, YOU = MORAN. Last Edited by Atheist on 05/26/2010 08:21 AM Atheist |
Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 953527 United Kingdom 05/26/2010 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vegetarians murder plants for food. Have you ever heard a carrot sobbing for its life, begging not to be killed? Have you heard the screams of lettuce when vegetarians tear their leaves off? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 929725Yes it's true, plants are alive. Vegetarians murder plants just for "food" as they call it. The Plant Liberation Society is planning to raid some of these "Vegetarian Food Farms" and free the vegetables which are trapped in there under appalling conditions. Carrots, one of the most sensitive plants, are actually buried in dirt up to their green leafy bits to stop them from walking around happily. Vegetarians say the carrots like being buried, but everybody knows that isn't true. and thats why conscious vegetarians do not eat anything that causes the individual plant to die. i, for example, only eat stuff like bread (wheat dies off naturally), or beans (beans are fruits of the particular bean plant) and such. Vegetarians also rip fruit off trees, causing the trees great pain and suffering. There are many more awful things that vegetarians do to plants, but it's just too much to post them all here. making arguments out of one's ass also causes pain. but not to the one making them - to the ones reading it ... fruits are designed to be ripped off. its the fruit bearing plants' system of reproduction and multiplication. that is why they stand on tiny stalks while they grow, so that when the fruit is fully grown, the stalk can die off, rot, and fruit can drop. numerous plant species rely on animals to propagate their seeds. a particular tree in southeastern asia (if im remembering the location right) has its fruits designed to be eaten by herbivores. seeds do not dissolve in that particular herbivore's system, and instead they are excremented while they wander around, spreading the seeds immensely far. fruit is one of the (at least known to us) furthest mutually symbiotic relationships created by nature. Want to address the issues i raised about fungi not being plants and being closely related to animals, and why mushrooms are fair game to vegans/vegetarians The petrochemical industry/plastics, and the relationship to the destruction of animal habbit, the death of animals by combined harvesters? Do you have any answers to these issues? Atheist |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 981811 Brazil 05/26/2010 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Contact me when you have proven the law of conservation of energy wrong dude. Quoting: Dr.Walter.BishopUntil then, YOU = MORAN. haha that is your argument? study metaphysics sdude. higher energy sources are ethereal in nature and hard to be detected or proved by science, but they are there. energy will come from these spiritual sources directly to you if you can open yourself to them. law of conversation of energy persists. but... all laws of science are based on determinism / causality. beyond cause and effect there is only a "miracle". the miracle of Existence. science ignores the beginning of everything. science ignores the spontaneous phenomenon of consciousness. when did consciousness arise? so notice that there is a miraculous factor that science cannot nor will ever acknowledge. all cause and effect is an ILLUSION. it is what characterizes the physical universe.. all illusion. obviously, it's a neatly ordered illusion that obeys laws perfectly. but beyond the illusion thre is only Will. Thus, if I wish to live, I live. I will create as much energy I need to keep living. Simple as that. fuck law of conservation of energy |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 981691 Australia 05/26/2010 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | numerous plant species rely on animals to propagate their seeds. a particular tree in southeastern asia (if im remembering the location right) has its fruits designed to be eaten by herbivores. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 929725So! You ADMIT that vegetarians eat animal food, thus causing the POOR ANIMALS to STARVE because some greedy vegetarians have eaten all their food!!!! How COULD you??? POOR ANIMALS WITH NO FOOD!!! YOUR FAULT!!!1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 929725 Turkey 05/26/2010 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | numerous plant species rely on animals to propagate their seeds. a particular tree in southeastern asia (if im remembering the location right) has its fruits designed to be eaten by herbivores. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 981691So! You ADMIT that vegetarians eat animal food, thus causing the POOR ANIMALS to STARVE because some greedy vegetarians have eaten all their food!!!! How COULD you??? POOR ANIMALS WITH NO FOOD!!! YOUR FAULT!!!1 au contraire. the plants which are continuing a mutually symbiotic relationship with humans by being planted and raised in trees, wineries, gardens are probably much more numerous and dominant than they would be if they lived in the wild alone. wheat for example. wheat wouldnt be able to find that big numbers had they not been planted and raised and protected by humans. same goes for fruit trees. most of the fruit trees are quite mild species, and they would have a hard time in wild alone. yet, mankind tends them a lot, and also allows them to multiply. you dont go out to wild to collect berries to feed 18 million crowded cities. you raise the food in farms. therefore you do not eat poor animals' food, you RAISE your own food by collaborating with the plants you raise. |