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The Future of your country?..ask and I will tell you,...

 
Anonymous Coward
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04/10/2007 07:56 AM
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Hmm, you have much to learn. But then, you won't; so die stupid. Actually, mankind's belief in science will be its downfall.
Without science, we could not talk via internet. The WWW arose from mathematics. All global challenges we will be confronted with have to be solved by science. People without scientific education and training have the highest risk of getting unemployed. And there're really huge challenges in the near future to overcome. So if you claim science would be mankind's downfall, you don't got a clue how to handle mankind's global responsibilities.
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Hmm, without science Nagasaki and Hiroshima would never have been bombed, nor chemical, bacterial, atomic weapons invented, nor any gnome research being abused to develop genetical aberrations of plant and animal life, nor millions of animals put to death for just the same purpose, nor would we have modified bacteria and viruses being developed to kill, nor 10s of thousands of atomic bombs of various kinds stored to be used at a later time. Without science Chernobyl wouldn't have been nor most of the pollution of air, water, and earth that we have now, nor countless billions of people slaughtered in wars, nor would there be an exploitation of "resources" as is done now, without science we wouldn't poison our bodies by digesting medicine that is supposed to heal or food that is supposed to keep us healthy. Ah yes, the www was originally a military development - never to forget.

Last but not least, without science we still would have some morals and ethics and maybe a God. With science all that's left is the belief in our own self imposed greatness. And in the end we find ourselves as barbarians standing in front of the gates to Hell. But never mind, you are perfectly right to have a chip in the colour of your choice implanted in your brain in the near future. Dream on man, dream on...
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04/11/2007 03:32 PM
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I will not bear the chip, man! I'll definitely resist it. My time here is over as soon as I'm ordered to get chipped. If I cannot flee the chipping, ... well, I don't want to write the consequence here.
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@ 52730:

Take a hammer. You can use it to build a house. Or you can use it to murder your neighbor. So is the hammer the root of the evil? Or is it you?
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04/12/2007 03:49 PM
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I want to refer once more to three oddities in Gaia Man's prediction catalogue:

· The Portals. No other prophecy or sacred book ever wrote something about portals that will appear in the end times. There's indeed not one tiny single story in this field regarding 'portals'.

· The Mark of The Beast. Gaia Man does not refer a single time to the chip or to whatever that mark might be. On the other side, there're many prophecies down the history which mention the mark.

· The short time period. Gaia Man claimed to year of 2012 to be the final stage of end time. Think it over, folks! It's yet 5 years from now on. There're must be HUGE changes all over the world to happen before you even can speak of a beginning end time. It must be later. Perhaps 2030, or even later.
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04/12/2007 07:15 PM
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· The short time period. Gaia Man claimed to year of 2012 to be the final stage of end time. Think it over, folks! It's yet 5 years from now on. There're must be HUGE changes all over the world to happen before you even can speak of a beginning end time. It must be later. Perhaps 2030, or even later.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 222327

We ARE in A end of times. We have come to gradually accept as "normal" many things that are just unbearable and unacceptable. Do you know the story about the frog and boiling water?
Anonymous Coward
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04/12/2007 07:25 PM
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Prayer Alert Robin P

Hey Guys;

I am sending out a quick prayer alert/request regarding a dream I had early this morning about tainted baby food. I heard the name 'Enlow' 'cover our babies in prayer' and I then I heard 'from dog food to baby food' then a picture of baby food being tainted with poison.

When I woke up I kept hearing 'protect the innocent.' Very recently in the news we know that many people have lost their pets due to tainted dog food, so let us just cover our babies world wide in prayer. I do not know what the name Enlow has to do with babies or baby food but felt led to include the whole dream.

Blessings, Robin P
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18251



This was posted on the board today:

Green consumerism: Getting the rat poison out of the baby food

by Gar Lipow at 2:56 PM on 02 Apr 2007

No, as far as I know, no baby-food maker ever used rat poison as an ingredient. The point is that we don't have to worry about it; if you have an infant switching off milk, you can shop the baby food counter confident that none of the choices will contain rat poison.

However, as a consumer, buying "green" is not quite so easy. Hastening the end of our civilization is a routine ingredient in most of the things we buy. By spending a little extra time and money, we can sometimes find alternatives that don't contribute to our society's destruction -- though often not.

If baby food routinely contained micro doses of arsenic, of course you would go out of your way to buy uncontaminated versions for your child. But you would also recognize that we should not allow baby food to include anything so toxic in the first place.

[link to gristmill.grist.org]
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I want to refer once more to three oddities in Gaia Man's prediction catalogue:

· The Portals. No other prophecy or sacred book ever wrote something about portals that will appear in the end times. There's indeed not one tiny single story in this field regarding 'portals'.

· The Mark of The Beast. Gaia Man does not refer a single time to the chip or to whatever that mark might be. On the other side, there're many prophecies down the history which mention the mark.

· The short time period. Gaia Man claimed to year of 2012 to be the final stage of end time. Think it over, folks! It's yet 5 years from now on. There're must be HUGE changes all over the world to happen before you even can speak of a beginning end time. It must be later. Perhaps 2030, or even later.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 222327


About the Mark of the Beast, GaiaMan did comment on that. Here is the quote:

Gaia Man
User ID: 308
6/30/2005
7:56 pm EDT
to:
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1146
6/30/2005
7:08 pm EDT
Gaia Man, before you go, please answer one last question: What can you tell us
about the Mark of the Beast?
---------------------------------------------
Dear Soul,
For my last post for awhile,
A Chip, with personal information, under your skin. Like we chip already dogs.
No travel, no shopping without it.
No medical care etc.etc.
Bye take care
Anonymous Coward
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04/13/2007 05:50 AM
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About the Mark of the Beast, GaiaMan did comment on that. Here is the quote:

Gaia Man
User ID: 308
6/30/2005
7:56 pm EDT
to:
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1146
6/30/2005
7:08 pm EDT
Gaia Man, before you go, please answer one last question: What can you tell us
about the Mark of the Beast?
---------------------------------------------
Dear Soul,
For my last post for awhile,
A Chip, with personal information, under your skin. Like we chip already dogs.
No travel, no shopping without it.
No medical care etc.etc.
Bye take care
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 137333

Thanks a lot! I didn't know this post from Gaia Man! Okay, then my second reservation about the mark of the beast drops down.

We ARE in A end of times. We have come to gradually accept as "normal" many things that are just unbearable and unacceptable. Do you know the story about the frog and boiling water?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 222431

As with the post from Gaia Man about the mark, I didn't know it. I just looked it up:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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04/13/2007 05:54 AM
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And regarding the chip, it must be after the great war and after the impact, when mankind is weakened and will accept any kind of help just to survive.
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04/13/2007 06:02 AM
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Hmm, now I have personal questions to Gaia Man:

Will you accept the chip for yourself? What do you do, Gaia Man, if you and your family are forced to bear the chip? And what do you recommend we should do? Would you recommend to refuse the chip for any price - even if one's life depends on getting chipped?
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04/13/2007 06:18 AM
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Or let it put me this way:

Are people who bear the chip allowed to enter the portals?
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04/13/2007 07:07 AM
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@ 52730:

Take a hammer. You can use it to build a house. Or you can use it to murder your neighbor. So is the hammer the root of the evil? Or is it you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 221846


Sounds very much like:"guns don't kill people do" try again, please.

Anyway, mankind's fate was decided a long time ago - but what is time when there is eternity :-)"Free" will and all, that decision wasn't ours to make. The next decision will be how much to cut off to save the rest or if anything can be considered savable - so what's your the point?

Back to your argument - a childish, hippocrate response, no better than America's gun lobby's. You surely can do better.
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Back to your argument - a childish, hippocrate response, no better than America's gun lobby's. You surely can do better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40520

Guns have no other purpose than to kill beings - be it animals or men. But science exists just to research and to know. And the hammer is produced to work as a tool, and not to hurt or to kill someone. So my argument wasn't childish in any way. Remember: We could not discuss with one another in this moment if the internet didn't arise from computer science. You can use the internet to watch porn and violence sites, or you can use it to get some valuable information and education. You cannot compare that to guns, because its only aim is to destroy life, as it is with all modern weapons.
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Back to your argument - a childish, hippocrate response, no better than America's gun lobby's. You surely can do better.
Guns have no other purpose than to kill beings - be it animals or men. But science exists just to research and to know. And the hammer is produced to work as a tool, and not to hurt or to kill someone. So my argument wasn't childish in any way. Remember: We could not discuss with one another in this moment if the internet didn't arise from computer science. You can use the internet to watch porn and violence sites, or you can use it to get some valuable information and education. You cannot compare that to guns, because its only aim is to destroy life, as it is with all modern weapons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 222327


O.K. today is my day off. I know I shouldn't have bothered responding at all. Are you the one that was called grasshopper? If so, I believe this relates to an old TV series with David Carradine playing a Shaolin monk, in short: YOU don't understand, as far as I am able to tell, mainly because of your AGE, age being esoteric or spiritual not your physical one.

Unimportant, you have no real knowledge or very little, so you grab the next best thing that appears before you - science. Science offers you a convenient way to what you call knowledge - but that is what it is not. All of science is a construct of theorems and axioms trying to explain what is, excluding mostly what indeed IS but doesn't fit.Even, when coming up with something simple as mankind's own "evolution" your so called science fails miserably, constantly correcting itself as soon as something is discovered that doesn't quite fit. Same with astrophysics, same with, same with, etc, etc. You seem to "adore" mathematics, either you are not aware or do not want to know that it is the artificial construct par excellence, impotent to explain anything real whatsoever!

So, does all this pseudo knowledge satisfy you? No need to look for REAL knowledge? Oh, btw, there are other ways and means to "discuss with one another", completely science free <grin>. But then, you wouldn't know as you are not advanced enough to participate. So for now, please stick with science, at least it provides you with an easy explanation for some things, that you can believe in. As I said before, the only outstanding job science really does is trying to explain away what doesn't fit. So keep it, I don't want it, I wasted 3 years of my life getting familiar with your science at university doing Physics, just to find out what science really is.

Lastly, who pays for your scientific research or pays for what specifically is researched and for what purposes? I have noticed that you conveniently ignored to respond. Never mind, the guy who called you a grasshopper was right: you ARE a grasshopper. Even grasshoppers grow up, some day....:-)
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So you call me a grasshopper. I don't care because you don't know who I am and you probably never will know. It is not possible to rate a person because of some rare postings.

And know listen. I contemplated about the question on bearing or refusing the chip. I asked Gaia Man what he would recommend, but I'm unpatient and tried to find out for myself.

And this is what I got:

Refusing the chip, seperates the men from the boys.

What do you think about this answer?
Yax nli
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04/13/2007 02:13 PM
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What about Mexico City? Anything special in the next years?
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Did you understand? Refusing the chip is not for the faint of heart. It's for those with guts'n'balls. It's going to be brutal for the outsiders.
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04/13/2007 11:02 PM
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Anonymous Coward
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4/13/2007 2:20 PM

You got that right. If you take the mark, bad for you. Refuse it at all costs.
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Yes, refusing it at all costs. And it will seperate the men from the boys, the heros from the wankers, the eagles from the doves. It takes to be capable to withstand extraordinary hardships. For life will be brutal for those who refuse the chip.
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04/14/2007 02:31 AM
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HAHAHAHA!!

YOU CANT SAY NO TO THE MARK!

WAIT FOR THE DICTATOR!

HE WILL MAKE YOU ALL KNEEL DOWN!!! YOU WILL KNEEL ALL DOWN!
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04/14/2007 02:55 PM
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Regarding this RFID chip, what some weird people interprete as the 'mark of the beast'... it's not possible to implant such a chip for 6.6 billion people in the next five years. Technology is not ready for such a development. It's pure fantasy and science fiction. Maybe 50 years later, but not nowadays.
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And I diagnose in this thread are a lot of muddled and bewildered freaks beyond any understanding of reality. An implanted chip for the whole mankind is total crap because it isn't managable no way you deal with it. What crack did you smoke?
terces
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04/15/2007 12:56 PM
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I watch this forum because of my curiosity of Gaia Man but I would like to address the chip issue.

If one were to think of some government organization housing some mass database of all of the people on the planet then yes, that would be almost impossible and incredibly cumbersome. But, for somebody like myself, who spends a lot of time thinking about how to scale network infrastructure and services I think it is extremely possible. Much like the Google search engine you find ways to make many machines act as one. It would be much easier than you think to create a people database which could easily scale way past the population of the earth and which would include every aspect of your life. Welcome to the end result of what is in man's heart. All of man is this way, hence, the reason it repeats over and over again. Too bad man cannot see himself and judge himself instead of others.

It is my hope that what people deem to be their respective Gods does intervene soon. Because once again man has brought himself dangerously close to his own extinction and left to his own works will accomplish this. Implanting chips is one step closer to a very wretched end game.
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terces
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4/15/2007 12:56 PM

Well said and of course absolutely correct. The Gov. keeps all of our tax returns and info for years. They can scan the chip like a credit card and know who and where you are at any time. My dog has a chip implanted under it's skin in case it gets lost. It can be scanned in a second and has our number, dogs name, ID number and where it lives. The chip is as thin as a stamp and 1/32" square. You better believe it's possible. And is going happen in the near future.
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You cannot save those who donít think they need
to be saved. It may sound cold and unfeeling, but it is the
reality of life here, those who donít want to know, who
refuse to learn from past mistakes are the cannon fodder of
the age change. There are no and, ifs about it. Pray that
whatever you believe in has mercy on their souls, but donít
knock yourself out trying to bring them to awareness.
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04/16/2007 08:32 AM
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@ 194938 and @ 222950:

The question is if it's possible at all to implant a chip for the whole mankind in the years up to 2012 as authors in this thread write. I say it's not possible no way you try to handle it. Be a little realistic, please! Global economy had be totally destructed worldwide in order to make people accept an implanted chip.

No way, folks! I repeat it: Maybe in 50 or 100 years, but surely not up to 2012. Never ever!
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04/16/2007 08:39 AM
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But beside the chip biz, I've got a question for Gaia Man which was already asked in this thread before:

What made the bees disappear in some countries?
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04/16/2007 07:17 PM
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What made the bees disappear in some countries?
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Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
[link to news.independent.co.uk]
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I can't believe that this thread is going up for a million views and will make GLP history when it does.
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I can't believe that this thread is going up for a million views and will make GLP history when it does.
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