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What you NEED to realise about the IDF and the FLOTILLA

 
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What you NEED to realise about the IDF and the FLOTILLA
The IDF are not average Joe's who have been handed a gun. They are one of the most elite regiments on the planet particularly in hand to hand combat.

Don't for a second build sympathy for an IDF soldier just because people hit them with batons, this operation was childsplay.

Why?

Watch the videos. They are wearing tactical gear. The people on the flotilla who were attacking the IDF in the videos were not trained soldiers judging by the way they carelessly waved the batons around. These soldiers would have been chuckling, THEY ARE TRAINED FOR SCENARIOS INVOLVING MULTIPLE TARGETS ATTACKING THEM WHILST THE SOLDIER THEMSELF IS UNARMED.

Are you people forgeting how much of the worlds economy is devoted to the military? These people are trained killers, they are brainwashed to be this way. They are in no circumstances to be assumed to have the qualities of ordinary citizens when it comes to strength, fighting ability, determination, etc.

Don't sympathise with the IDF when you can't even fathom the gravity of their training and what it means to be a soldier, lest a soldier of Israel.

Disarming each person one by one and throwing each weapon overboard as they went would be a piece of cake for an outfit like the IDF. But they needed you to see the humanitarians getting the upper hand over the IDF, otherwise how else could they ever justify killing people on board?

It's a non story. Once you seize a boat, you decide what information leaves it, including the footage that makes you look great.
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Re: What you NEED to realise about the IDF and the FLOTILLA
The IDF are not average Joe's who have been handed a gun. They are one of the most elite regiments on the planet particularly in hand to hand combat.

Don't for a second build sympathy for an IDF soldier just because people hit them with batons, this operation was childsplay.

Why?

Watch the videos. They are wearing tactical gear. The people on the flotilla who were attacking the IDF in the videos were not trained soldiers judging by the way they carelessly waved the batons around. These soldiers would have been chuckling, THEY ARE TRAINED FOR SCENARIOS INVOLVING MULTIPLE TARGETS ATTACKING THEM WHILST THE SOLDIER THEMSELF IS UNARMED.

Are you people forgeting how much of the worlds economy is devoted to the military? These people are trained killers, they are brainwashed to be this way. They are in no circumstances to be assumed to have the qualities of ordinary citizens when it comes to strength, fighting ability, determination, etc.

Don't sympathise with the IDF when you can't even fathom the gravity of their training and what it means to be a soldier, lest a soldier of Israel.

Disarming each person one by one and throwing each weapon overboard as they went would be a piece of cake for an outfit like the IDF. But they needed you to see the humanitarians getting the upper hand over the IDF, otherwise how else could they ever justify killing people on board?

It's a non story. Once you seize a boat, you decide what information leaves it, including the footage that makes you look great.
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Amazingly well said. I've been making the same point all day long about the footage, and lack thereof from the other side. You really hit the nail on the head.

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Amazingly well said. I've been making the same point all day long about the footage, and lack thereof from the other side. You really hit the nail on the head.

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Much appreciated TruthHurts and good point with the fact that there isn't any footage from the other side of the story.
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I was wondering too: who the hell was that idiot commanding officer who told the soldiers to go down on ropes and get beaten the hell out and thrown over board by those sailors? I mean, this is pathetic! You see your soldiers getting knocked the fuck out and you still tell them to get down there, one by one! If this is not comedy-like media show-off, I don't know what it is.
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bump hf peace
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Surely this is a propaganda exercise on both parts. I mean, they (ie anyone with half a functioning brain cell') had to know the other side wouldn't let the ships in unchallenged.

How many home-made munitions could you secrete on 6 ships, do you think? What country would sit back and allow that kind of risk?

6 of one, half-a-dozen of the other, imo.
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Surely this is a propaganda exercise on both parts. I mean, they (ie anyone with half a functioning brain cell') had to know the other side wouldn't let the ships in unchallenged.

How many home-made munitions could you secrete on 6 ships, do you think? What country would sit back and allow that kind of risk?

6 of one, half-a-dozen of the other, imo.
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Well said hf
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IDF : Israeli Dumb F#CKS
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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Re: What you NEED to realise about the IDF and the FLOTILLA
ur an idiot.

The IDF are not average Joe's who have been handed a gun. They are one of the most elite regiments on the planet particularly in hand to hand combat.

Don't for a second build sympathy for an IDF soldier just because people hit them with batons, this operation was childsplay.

Why?

Watch the videos. They are wearing tactical gear. The people on the flotilla who were attacking the IDF in the videos were not trained soldiers judging by the way they carelessly waved the batons around. These soldiers would have been chuckling, THEY ARE TRAINED FOR SCENARIOS INVOLVING MULTIPLE TARGETS ATTACKING THEM WHILST THE SOLDIER THEMSELF IS UNARMED.

Are you people forgeting how much of the worlds economy is devoted to the military? These people are trained killers, they are brainwashed to be this way. They are in no circumstances to be assumed to have the qualities of ordinary citizens when it comes to strength, fighting ability, determination, etc.

Don't sympathise with the IDF when you can't even fathom the gravity of their training and what it means to be a soldier, lest a soldier of Israel.

Disarming each person one by one and throwing each weapon overboard as they went would be a piece of cake for an outfit like the IDF. But they needed you to see the humanitarians getting the upper hand over the IDF, otherwise how else could they ever justify killing people on board?

It's a non story. Once you seize a boat, you decide what information leaves it, including the footage that makes you look great.
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Re: What you NEED to realise about the IDF and the FLOTILLA
ur an idiot.


The IDF are not average Joe's who have been handed a gun. They are one of the most elite regiments on the planet particularly in hand to hand combat.

Don't for a second build sympathy for an IDF soldier just because people hit them with batons, this operation was childsplay.

Why?

Watch the videos. They are wearing tactical gear. The people on the flotilla who were attacking the IDF in the videos were not trained soldiers judging by the way they carelessly waved the batons around. These soldiers would have been chuckling, THEY ARE TRAINED FOR SCENARIOS INVOLVING MULTIPLE TARGETS ATTACKING THEM WHILST THE SOLDIER THEMSELF IS UNARMED.

Are you people forgeting how much of the worlds economy is devoted to the military? These people are trained killers, they are brainwashed to be this way. They are in no circumstances to be assumed to have the qualities of ordinary citizens when it comes to strength, fighting ability, determination, etc.

Don't sympathise with the IDF when you can't even fathom the gravity of their training and what it means to be a soldier, lest a soldier of Israel.

Disarming each person one by one and throwing each weapon overboard as they went would be a piece of cake for an outfit like the IDF. But they needed you to see the humanitarians getting the upper hand over the IDF, otherwise how else could they ever justify killing people on board?

It's a non story. Once you seize a boat, you decide what information leaves it, including the footage that makes you look great.

 Quoting: pacman 988720

Just because you say so right?

Good argument pacman.





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