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>>>FISHERMANS wife Breaks silence - Fumes from spill caused crews of 7 shrimp boats to become sick and return to shore

 
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On Drudge now. Imagine the same results once the spill starts nearing shorelines. Evacuation does not seem that far fetched after reading this..

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Venice, Louisiana (CNN) -- Kindra Arnesen's husband often calls while he's out on a shrimping trip, so she wasn't surprised to hear her cell phone ring the night of April 29 while he was on an overnight fishing expedition.

However, this time, her husband, David, wasn't calling to tell her about the day's catch or to wish their children Aleena and David Jr. a good night. He was calling to tell her he was sick, and the strange thing about it, so were men on the seven other shrimping boats working near his.

"I received several calls from him saying, 'This one's hanging over the boat throwing up. This one says he's dizzy, and he's feeling faint. Everybody's loading up their stuff, tying up their rigs and going back to the docks,'" Arnesen remembers.

Arnesen believes it was vapors from the oil and the dispersants from the BP Gulf oil disaster that made her husband and the other shrimpers sick. She says they were downwind of it, and the smell was "so strong they could almost taste it."

For several weeks, she hesitated to talk publicly about it. Like many fishermen who can no longer fish in the Gulf, her husband has signed a contract to work with BP to clean up the oil, and she doesn't want to bite the hand that puts food on her family's table.

Full coverage: Gulf Coast oil disaster

But now Arnesen, a 32-year-old "uneducated housewife" -- her words -- is breaking her silence and is encouraging others in her community do the same. After attending a lecture by Rikki Ott, a toxicologist who's worked with families affected by the Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska, Arnesen decided to organize other wives to ask questions about the safety of working near the oil.

Her cell phone rings constantly.

"Hey, Theresa, how you doing?" she said, taking a call Tuesday morning. "Can you come to the meeting tonight?"
People don't want to talk. They're scared.
--Kindra Arneson

But Theresa can't come to the meeting, and Arnesen has come to expect such a response.

"People don't want to talk. They're scared," she says, of repercussions and consequences from BP. "Our financial situation lays in the palm of their hands."

"I don't believe in coincidence."

When David Arnesen reported that the other men were so sick they were cutting their shrimping trips short and heading home, his wife knew something strange was happening. Shrimpers work through illness, she says, because a trip cut short can cost a shrimper thousands of dollars.

She says the men had all the same symptoms at the same time -- vomiting, dizziness, headaches, shortness of breath. Could it be a coincidence?

"I don't believe in coincidence. It would be one thing if one of them got sick. It would maybe be OK if two got sick," she says. "When everyone's getting sick all at the same time, that's not coincidence"

When asked at a news conference Sunday about people getting sick while out on the Gulf, BP CEO Tony Hayward had his own theory.

"Food poisoning is clearly a big issue," HE said. "It's something we've got to be very mindful of.
"

Arnesen says there's no way her husband and the men on the other boats had fallen victim to food poisoning, noting the men were on eight boats and didn't eat the same food.

The night her husband became ill, Arnesen says, she tried to get him to come home like the other shrimpers, but he refused. He stayed out fishing from 6 p.m. until 9 a.m. the next morning, and came home so sick he collapsed into his recliner without eating dinner or saying hello to her or the children.

"It's a nasty cough. I literally woke him up over and over again," she says. "It didn't sound like he was getting enough air.

At first, David refused to see a doctor, but after three weeks of coughing and feeling weak, he agreed to go. His wife says he was diagnosed with respiratory problems and prescribed medicines, including an antibiotic and cough medicines.

She says while he's feeling better, he still doesn't have the energy he used to have.

"Here we are over a month later and he's still not completely well," she says.

Masks and marshes

Since CNN aired a story about her Tuesday night, Kindra Arnesen says she's received phone calls from as far away as Texas from people wanting to team up with her to protect coastal communities from the oil.

One of her immediate goals is to persuade BP to give its workers masks.

Graham MacEwen, a spokesman for BP, says the company isn't providing masks because their air monitoring shows there's no health threats to workers.

He denied Arnesen's accusations that BP has prevented workers from wearing their own masks, saying workers may do so as long as they read training materials on how to use a mask safely.

Arnesen is also working to have BP fund an effort to put sandbags along the marshes in her area to keep the oil out.

(Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal announced Wednesday that the White House has ordered BP to fund Louisiana's plan to dredge up walls of sand along its coast.)

Arnesen says she is indeed scared that her husband will lose her job now that she's speaking out.

"Am I scared? Yes," she said. "Anything that ever starts, starts with one. And if I have to be the one then I have to be the one," she says.
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UPDATE!! ADDITIoNAL SOURCE regarding OIL SPILL WORKERS contracting flu like symptoms...


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Gulf spill workers complaining of flulike symptoms
MATTHEW BROWN and NOAKI SCHWARTZ Associated Press


NEW ORLEANS — For days now, Dr. Damon Dietrich has seen patients come through his emergency room at West Jefferson Medical Center with similar symptoms: respiratory problems, headaches and nausea.

In the past week, 11 workers who have been out on the water cleaning up oil from BP's blown-out well have been treated for what Dietrich calls "a pattern of symptoms" that could have been caused by the burning of crude oil, noxious fumes from the oil or the dispersants dumped in the Gulf to break it up. All workers were treated and released.

"One person comes in, it could be multiple things," he said. "Eleven people come in with these symptoms, it makes it incredibly suspicious."

Few studies have examined long-term health effects of oil exposure. But some of the workers trolling Gulf Coast beaches and heading out into the marshes and waters have complained about flu-like symptoms — a similar complaint among crews deployed for the 1989 Exxon Valdez spill in Alaska.

BP and U.S. Coast Guard officials have said dehydration, heat, food poisoning or other unrelated factors may have caused the workers' symptoms. The Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals is investigating.

Brief contact with small amounts of light crude oil and dispersants are not harmful. Swallowing small amounts of oil can cause upset stomach, vomiting and diarrhea. Long-term exposure to dispersants, however, can cause central nervous system problems, or do damage to blood, kidneys or livers, according to the Centers For Disease Control and Prevention.

In the six weeks since the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded, killing 11 workers, an estimated 21 million to 45 million gallons of crude has poured into the Gulf of Mexico. Hundreds of BP contractors have fanned out along the Gulf, deploying boom, spraying chemicals to break up the oil, picking up oil-soaked debris and trying to keep the creeping slick out of the sensitive marshes and away from the tourist-Mecca beaches.

Commercial fisherman John Wunstell Jr. spent a night on a vessel near the source of the spill and left complaining of a severe headache, upset stomach and nose bleed. He was treated at the hospital, and sued — becoming part of a class-action lawsuit filed last month in U.S. District Court in New Orleans against BP, Transocean and their insurers.

Wunstell, who was part of a crew burning oil, believes planes were spraying dispersant in the middle of the night — something BP disputes.

"I began to ache all over ..." he said in the affidavit. "I was completely unable to function at this point and feared that I was seriously ill."

Dozens of complaints, most from spill workers, have been made related to oil exposure with the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals, said spokeswoman Olivia Watkins, as well as with the Louisiana Poison Center, clinics and hospitals. Workers are being told to follow federal guidelines that recommend anyone involved in oil spill cleanup wear protective equipment such as gloves, safety glasses and clothing.

Michael J. Schneider, an attorney who decided against filing a class-action lawsuit in the 1990s involving the Valdez workers, said proving a link between oil exposure and health problems is very difficult.

"As a human being you listen to enough and you've got to believe they're true," he said. "The problem is the science may not be there to support them ... Many of the signs and symptoms these people complained of are explainable for a dozen different reasons — it's certainly coincidental they all shared a reason in common."

Similar to the Valdez cleanup, there have been concerns in the Gulf that workers aren't being supplied with enough protective gear. Workers have been spotted in white jumpsuits, gloves and booties but no goggles or respirators.

"If they're out there getting lightheaded and dizzy every day then obviously they ought to come in, and there should be respirators and other equipment provided," said LuAnn White, director of the Tulane Center for Applied Environmental Public Health. She added that most of the volatile components that could sicken people generally evaporate before the oil reaches shore.

BP PLC's Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles said reports of workers getting sick are being investigated but noted that no one has pinpointed the cause. Suttles said workers were being given "any safety equipment" needed to do their jobs safely.

Unlike with Exxon Valdez, in the Gulf, the oil has been lighter, the temperatures warm and humid, and there have been hundreds of thousands of gallons of chemicals used to break up the oil.

Court records showed more than 6,700 workers involved in the Exxon Valdez clean up suffered respiratory problems which the company attributed to a viral illness, not chemical poisoning.

Dennis Mestas represented the only known worker to successfully settle with Exxon over health issues. According to the terms of that confidential settlement, Exxon did not admit fault.

His client, Gary Stubblefield, spent four months lifting workers in a crane for 18 hours a day as they sprayed the oil-slicked beaches with hot water, which created an oily mist. Even though he had to wipe clean his windshield twice a day, Stubblefield said it never occurred to him that the mixture might be harming his lungs.

Within weeks, he and others, who wore little to no protective gear, were coughing and experiencing other symptoms that were eventually nicknamed Valdez crud. Now 60, Stubblefield cannot get through a short conversation without coughing and gasping for breath like a drowning man. He sometimes needs the help of a breathing machine and inhalers, and has to be careful not to choke when he drinks and eats.

Watching the Gulf situation unfold, he says, makes him sick.

"I just watch this stuff everyday and know these people are on the very first rung on the ladder and are going to go through a lot of misery," said Stubblefield, who now lives in Prescott, Ariz.
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Food poisoning.
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Food poisoning.
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Tell me you have more common sense than this...
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Food poisoning.

Tell me you have more common sense than this...
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Nope, the BP CEO said this and I believe everything I'm told.
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Food poisoning.

Tell me you have more common sense than this...



he's just quoting the BP ceo..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^

lmao Don't know how I missed that paragraph, but I didthwak

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gag orders my ass.

she says there financial situation lies in there hands but there isnt goimng to be any more finances from there livelyhood anymore.

good fro her for speaking out!

gag order lol i gotta laugh at that, my bf jokes about putting one in my mouth all the time. hell if i wouldve even sighned such a thing!
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Food poisoning.

Tell me you have more common sense than this...



Nope, the BP CEO said this and I believe everything I'm told.
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MY Bad and I completely agree. Must be food poisoning. The fact that other ships and their crews experienced such a thing is simply psychosomatic hysteria chuckle

Please forgive me. I am not sure how in the hell I missed that whopper paragraph when I read the articlethwak I need to up my coffee levels for the day I thinkpeace

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Well if there is anyone out there that is NOT afraid to talk they need to!!
BP is not going to help nor is the gov., they will use these people then throw them away. These people helping down there DO NOT matter to TPTB!
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fishermans wife?

lol

yeah - she's brillaint

fisherman wives are noted for intelligence

they decide not to marry like a doctor because a fish stink stupid dork is better

lol
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I saw her story.

She claimed other fishermen were not talking because they were afraid of BP---I don't buy that.

They asked her why her husband wasn't talking and she said he couldn't do the lawsuit.

BINGO! The other fishermen are involved in a lawsuit, so no one's talking.
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fishermans wife?

lol

yeah - she's brillaint

fisherman wives are noted for intelligence

they decide not to marry like a doctor because a fish stink stupid dork is better

lol
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you are a dumbass in all honesty. First she states "I am an uneducated fisherman's wife"

number two, life is not about money you twit.

number three, maybe she loves him you chode
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This just in from our Liberal Tard contingent

fishermans wife?

lol

yeah - she's brillaint

fisherman wives are noted for intelligence

they decide not to marry like a doctor because a fish stink stupid dork is better

lol
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gabm
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fishermans wife?

lol

yeah - she's brillaint

fisherman wives are noted for intelligence

they decide not to marry like a doctor because a fish stink stupid dork is better

lol
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sbus
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fishermans wife?

lol

yeah - she's brillaint

fisherman wives are noted for intelligence

they decide not to marry like a doctor because a fish stink stupid dork is better

lol
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The average fishermans wife is smarter than a wanker like you Bubba
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Not even providing masks but you can wear your own if you read training materials on mask safety?

wtf

Maybe they should be passing out training materials on DISPERSANT SAFETY??????
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lol

a lawyer wife would probably say "here - take a mask and this is an article about oil and dispersant hazards"

a fisherman's wife?

lol

"duh, uh duh, he was coughing , duh and duh"
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"Am I scared? Yes," she said. "Anything that ever starts, starts with one. And if I have to be the one then I have to be the one," she says."

lol

"i am the one that starts with one and i'll be the one"

lol

fisherman wives- looks to match their brains
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fishermans wife?

lol

yeah - she's brillaint

fisherman wives are noted for intelligence

they decide not to marry like a doctor because a fish stink stupid dork is better

lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946396

i married a fisherman.

i would never go out with a doctor or lawyer, stock broker, ect ect. all cocky stuck up asswholes.

and besides doctors kill. o wait ur not educated on that truth yet??

o and ps my stupid dork is probably the type of man you never find yourself in aquantance with lol

wow the stupidity from some people is kinda entertaining lol

o i get it,,you make comments like that just for attention?
well you got some from me poor baby. deprived arent we? lol
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thank goodness more people are breaking silence, it is hell out there and the hell is coming inland!

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"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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"and besides doctors kill."

lol

thanks fisherman's wife

boy was i wrong

lol

glad you are happy with fish stink

has he painted any paintings or read Joyce lately?

lol
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lol

a lawyer wife would probably say "here - take a mask and this is an article about oil and dispersant hazards"

a fisherman's wife?

lol

"duh, uh duh, he was coughing , duh and duh"
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Lawyer wouldn't last one day on a fishing boat in good conditions let alone with a gas mask ondumbass

Just because someone does not have a communomarxist education and degree in mediocrity through Americas finest institutions does not mean they are unintelligent genius.

Try working with a gas mask on your face. Just sit there at your desk for 8 hours with your hard physical labor of plunking away at your keyboard and see how you like it by the end of an 8 hour shift thwak Fishing is hard physical work, something you lotiony handed types know nothing about...
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"stupid dork is probably the type of man you never find yourself in aquantance with"

damn- now i can't discuss Spinoza with them

lol
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fishermans wife?

lol

yeah - she's brillaint

fisherman wives are noted for intelligence

they decide not to marry like a doctor because a fish stink stupid dork is better

lol
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to show courage and be the first one to speak out... however, when I read your arguement, it was easy to determine the level of your intelligence is well surpassed by her IQ. I can only assume that your negative output on this situation is a result of you're jealously that you do not possess the backbone required to stand up for what is right.
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download this

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Food poisoning.

Tell me you have more common sense than this...



he's just quoting the BP ceo..
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ah, the good sheeple...
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shill

British Petroleum must have ads all over craigslist looking for shills like you, bitch, who can't even spell "brilliant" but thinks bad thoughts about fisherman's wives.

A quick and convenient way to hijack a thread or any conversation, send ignorant assholes like this one to open their smelly ass mouths and shit all over it. The "Cartman" tactic, as it were.

Rachel, thank you for posting.
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i would get away from all that mess if i where them.

it does take guts to speak out, most are so afraid of what others may think.

pick up and leave
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Food poisoning.

Tell me you have more common sense than this...



he's just quoting the BP ceo..
ah, the good sheeple...
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I desrved thatchuckle


I shamefully admitted itlmao We all have our moment wearing the woolchuckle I skimmed through the article and somehow missed the best part of it... SELF>>>>thwak
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shill

British Petroleum must have ads all over craigslist looking for shills like you, bitch, who can't even spell "brilliant" but thinks bad thoughts about fisherman's wives.

A quick and convenient way to hijack a thread or any conversation, send ignorant assholes like this one to open their smelly ass mouths and shit all over it. The "Cartman" tactic, as it were.

Rachel, thank you for posting.
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To whom are you responding?
-Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty~Thomas Jefferson

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what else do people expect floating about in a boat on a load of oil, anybody with a tiny bit of common sense would wear a breathing mask, you wouldn't go around sniffing petrol for a laugh would you.

this oil spill could actually be good for Americans, they will have less to eat with all fishing habitats destroyed & do more walking & cycling now Obama wants to curtail oil production on the Gulf coast, maybe he could use it as a excuse to invade another oil rich country, Iran maybe ?
What I find fantastic is any notion that there are answers beyond the realm of science. The answers are there. You just have to know where to look.

We're all gonna die. The only question is when & how you check out. Do you want it on your feet? Or on your knees... begging?! I ain't much for begging! Nobody ever gave me nothing!





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