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Fulfilled Prophecy 4 My FRIENDS [March 2011 Update] Jesus Christ is Lord !!!

 
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A. A. Allen Vision

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My Vision of The Destruction of America
By A. A. Allen

As I stepped inside the elevator at the Empire State Building, I never dreamed of the great experience, which awaited me just 86 stories up…. There on the east side of the terrace, I noticed a giant telescope, of the kind into which you can drop a dime, and see for approximately fifteen miles.…

As I stood with my dime between my fingers, waiting my turn, suddenly the spirit of the Lord came mightily upon me. I noticed the two giant eyes of the telescope as the man who was manipulating it turned it my direction. I was amazed that the spirit of the Lord should so move upon me, there atop the Empire State Building. Why should I feel such a surge of His spirit and power there?...

Then suddenly I heard the voice of the Lord. It was as clear and as distinct as a voice could be. It seemed to come from the very midst of the giant telescope. But when I looked at the telescope, I knew it hadn’t come from there, but directly from heaven. The voice said, "The eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show himself strong in behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done foolishly. Therefore, from thenceforth, thou shalt have wars." …

As I stepped to the telescope and dropped in my dime, immediately, the ticking started again. This ticking was an automatic clock, which would allow me to use thetelescope for a definitely limited time only. … That morning, much of the view was impaired by fog. But suddenly as the spirit of the Lord came upon me the fog seemed to clear, until it seemed that I could see for thousands of miles. But that which I was looking upon was not Manhattan Island. It was the entire North American continent spread out before me as a map is spread upon a table.

It was not the East River and the Hudson River that I saw on either side, but the Atlantic and the Pacific Oceans. And instead of the Statue of Liberty standing there in the bay on her small island, I saw her standing far out in the Gulf of Mexico. She was between the United States and me. I suddenly realized that the telescope had nothing to do with what I was seeing, but that it was a vision coming directly from God. And to prove this to myself, I took my eyes away from the telescope, so that I was no longer looking through the lens, but the same scene remained spread before me. There, clear and distinct, lay all the North American continent, with all its great cities. …

And as I looked, suddenly from the sky I saw a giant hand reach down. That gigantic hand was reaching out toward the Statue of Liberty. In a moment her gleaming torch was torn from her hand, and in it instead was placed a cup. And I saw protruding from that great cup, a giant sword, shining as if a great light had been turned upon its glistening edge. Never before had I seen such a sharp, glistening, dangerous sword. It seemed to threaten the entire world. As the great cup was placed in the hand of the Statue of Liberty, I heard these words, "Thus says the Lord of hosts, Drink ye and be drunken, spue and fall, and rise no more, because of the sword which I will send."

As I heard these words, I recognized them as a quotation from Jeremiah 20:7. I was amazed to hear the Statue of Liberty speak out in reply, "I WILL NOT DRINK!" Then as the voice of the thunder, I heard again the voice of the Lord, saying, "Thus says the Lord of hosts, YE SHALL CERTAINLY DRINK." (Jeremiah 25:28.) Then suddenly the giant hand forced the cup to the lips of the Statue of Liberty, and she became powerless to defend herself. The mighty hand of God forced her to drink every drop from the cup. As she drank the bitter dregs, these were the words that I heard, "Should ye be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished: for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth, says the Lord of Hosts." (Jeremiah 25:29).

When the cup was withdrawn from the lips of Statue of Liberty, I noticed the sword was missing from the cup, which could mean but one thing. THE CONTENTS OF THE CUP HAD BEEN COMPLETELY CONSUMED! I knew that the sword merely typified war, death, and destruction, which is no doubt on the way. Then as one drunken on too much wine, I saw the Statue of Liberty become unsteady on her feet and begin to stagger, and to lose her balance. I saw her splashing in the Gulf, trying to regain her balance. I saw her stagger again and again, and fall to her knees. As I saw her desperate attempts to regain her balance, and rise to her feet again, my heart was moved as never before with compassion for her struggles.

But as she staggered there in the gulf, once again I heard these words, "Ye shall drink and be drunken, and spue, and fall, and rise no more because of the sword that I shall send among you." As I watched, I wondered if the Statue of Liberty would ever be able to regain her feet - if she would ever stand again. And as I watched, it seemed that with all her power she struggled to rise, and finally staggered to her feet again, and stood there swaying drunkenly. I felt sure that at any moment she would fall again - possibly never to rise. I seemed overwhelmed with a desire to reach out my hand to keep her head above water, for I knew that if she ever fell again she would drown there in the Gulf.

Then as I watched, another amazing thing was taking place. Far to the northwest, just over Alaska, a huge, black cloud was arising. As it rose, it was as black as night. It seemed to be in the shape of a man's head. As it continued to arise, I observed two light spots in the black cloud. It rose further, and a gaping hole appeared. I could see that the black cloud was taking the shape of a skull, for now the huge, white, gaping mouth was plainly visible. Finally the head was complete. Then the shoulders began to appear, and on either side, long, black arms. It seemed that what I saw was the entire North American continent, spread out like a map upon table with this terrible skeleton-formed cloud arising from behind the table. It rose steadily until the form was visible down to the waist.

At the waist, the skeleton seemed to bend toward the United States, stretching forth a hand toward the east and one toward the west - one toward New York and one toward Seattle. As the awful form stretched forward, I could see that its entire attention seemed to focused upon the United States, overlooking Canada - at least for the time being. As I saw the horrible black cloud in the form of a skeleton bending toward America, bending from the waist over, reaching down toward Chicago and out toward both coasts, I knew its one interest was to destroy the multitudes.

As I watched in horror, the great black cloud stopped just above the Great Lake region, and turned its face toward New York City. Then out of the horrible, great, gaping mouth began to appear wisps of white vapor, which looked like smoke, as a cigarette smoker would low puffs of smoke from his mouth. These whitish vapors were being blown toward New York City. The smoke began to spread, until it had covered all the eastern part of the United States.

Then the skeleton turned to the west, and out of the horrible mouth and nostrils came another great puff of white smoke. This time it was blown in the direction of the west coast. In a few moments time, the entire west coast and Los Angeles area was covered with its vapors..

Then toward the center came a third great puff. As I watched, St. Louis and Kansas City were enveloped in its white vapors. Then on it came toward New Orleans. Then on they swept until they reached the Statue of Liberty where she stood staggering drunkenly in the blue waters of the Gulf. As the white vapors began to spread around the head of the Statue, she took in but one gasping breath, and then began to cough as though to rid her lungs of the horrible vapors she had inhaled.

One could readily discern by the painful coughing that those white vapors had seared her lungs. What were these white vapors? Could they signify bacteriological warfare that could destroy multitudes of people in a few moments time? Or could they be the new G-gas, the horrible nerve gas recently made known to the American public? …

Indeed, Val Peterson, Federal Civil Defense Administrator, estimates that … "Nerve gas used by an enemy with maximum efficiency could be deadlier than an atomic bomb." Right now you and your family, all of us, are unprotected against the threat of this terror weapon. … The Army calls it GB; it's an odorless, colorless, tasteless nerve gas designed to destroy people with paralyzing suddenness. We have it; so do the Russians.… G-gas, as nerve gas is sometimes called, is cheap to produce, a small amount can do the job, and it leaves a nation's industrial plants, utilities and buildings intact for an occupying power.…

As I looked with wonder upon the vision God had give me I wondered could it be this horrible G Gas, which was causing the Statue of Liberty to react so violently, as it floated about her head, looking like an innocent cloud?

Then I heard the voice of God, as He spoke: "Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof."

"And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. “The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the Lord hath spoken this word. The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish. The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. "Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned and few men left." (Isaiah 24:6)

As I watched, the coughing grew worse. It sounded like a person about to cough out his lungs. The Statue of Liberty was moaning and groaning. She was in mortal agony. The pain must have been terrific, as again and again, she tried to clear her lungs of those horrible white vapors. I watched her there in the Gulf, as she staggered, clutching her lungs and her breast with her hands. Then she fell to her knees. In a moment, she gave one final cough, made a last desperate effort to rise from her knees, and then fell face forward into the waters of the gulf, and lay still - still as death. Tears ran down my face as I realized that she was dead! Only the lapping of the waves, splashing over her body, which was partly under the water, and partly out of the water, broke the stillness.…

Suddenly the screaming of sirens shattered the silence. Sirens that seemed to scream "RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!" Never before had I heard such shrill, screaming sirens. They seemed to be everywhere - to the north, the south, the east and the west. There seemed to be multitudes of sirens. And as I looked, I saw people everywhere running. But it seemed none of them ran more than a few paces, and then they fell. And even as I had seen the Statue of Liberty struggling to regain her poise and balance, and finally falling for the last time, to die on her face, I now saw millions of people falling in the streets, on the sidewalks, struggling. I heard their screams for mercy and help. I heard their horrible coughing, as though their lungs had been seared with fire.

I heard the moanings and groanings of the doomed and the dying. As I watched, a few finally readied shelters. But only a few ever got to the shelters, and above the moaning and the groaning of the dying multitudes, I heard these words: "A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth; for the Lord hath a controversary with the nations, He will plead with all flesh; He will give them that are wicked to the sword, saith the Lord. Behold evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth. And the slain Of The Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not he lamented, neither gathered nor burled; they shall be dung upon the ground." (Jeremiah 25:31-33.)

Then suddenly I saw from the Atlantic and from the Pacific, and out of the Gulf, rocket-like objects that seemed to come up like fish leaping out of the water. High into the air they leaped, each headed in a different direction, but every one toward the United States. On the ground, the sirens screamed louder. And up from the ground I saw similar rockets beginning to ascend.

To me, these appeared to be interceptor rockets although they arose from different points all over the United States. However none of them seemed to be successful in intercepting the rockets that had risen from the ocean on every side. These rockets finally reached their maximum height, slowly turned over, and fell back toward the earth in defeat.

Then suddenly, the rockets, which had leaped out of the oceans like fish all, exploded at once. The explosion was earsplitting. The next thing, which I saw, was a huge ball of fire. The only thing I have ever seen which resembled the thing I saw in my vision was the picture of the explosion of the H-bomb, somewhere in the South Pacific some months ago. In my vision, it was so real I seemed to feel a searingheat from it.

As the vision spread before my eyes, and I viewed the widespread desolation brought about by the terrible explosions, I could not help thinking, "While the defenders of our nation have quibbled over what means of defense to use, and neglected the only true means of defense, faith and dependence upon the true and living God, the thing, which she greatly feared, has come unto her! How true it has proven that ‘Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman watcheth but in vain.’"

Then as the noise of battle subsided, to my ears came this quotation from Joel, the second chapter: "Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the Lord cometh for it is nigh at hand. "A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong: there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.

"A fire devoureth before them: and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the Garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them. The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run. Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in baffle array. Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.

"They shall run like mighty men: they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks: Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk everyone on in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded. "The shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief. "The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining." Joel 2:1-10.

Then the voice was still. The earth, too, was silent, the silence, with the silence of death. And then to my ears came another sound - a sound of distant singing. It was the sweetest music I had ever heard. There was joyful shouting, and sounds of happy laughter. Immediately, I knew it was the rejoicing of the saints of God. I looked, and there high in the heaven, above the smoke and poisonous gases, above the noise of battle, I saw a huge mountain. It seemed to be of solid rock, and I knew at once that this was the Mountain of the Lord. The sounds of music and rejoicing were coming from a cleft, high up in the side of the rock mountain. It was the saints of God who were doing the rejoicing. It was God’s own people who were singing and dancing and shouting with joy, safe from all harm which had come upon the earth, for they were hidden away in the cleft of the rock.

There in the cleft, they were shut in, protected by a great, giant hand which reached out of the heavens, and which was none other than the hand of God, shutting them in, until the storm be over-passed. "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to the flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption." Galatians 6:7.

No doubt many who are reading this are wondering, "Will America actually be invaded? Will she have to pay for her wickedness and sin, and for turning her back upon God? Will the wrath and fury of God’s judgment fall upon Uncle Sam? Will America be invaded by Russia? Will Russia use the horrible G gas that can kill millions in a few seconds time? Will she resort to biological warfare that could kill literally millions over night? Will Russia resort to the use of hydrogen weapons? Could God allow such a horrible thing to happen to America? In reply to all these questions, permit me to quote a few scriptures, and make a few thought provoking statements.

America has been sowing with a free hand, preparing for a tremendous harvest - but what has she sown? God declares that as sure as America has sown, SHE SHALL REAP!

"The wicked shall be turned into Hell, and all nations that forget God." Palms 9:17.

"The hand of our God is upon all them for good that seek him but his power and his wrath is against all that forsake him." Ezra 8:22.

"If ye be willing and obedient ye shall eat the good of the land, but if ye rebel and refuse, ye shall be devoured with the sword." Isaiah 1:19, 20. …

It is my firm conviction, based upon the authority of God's word, that any nation which forgets God to the extent that America has forgotten Him - any nation that rebels and refuses to walk in obedience to God's word as America has refused and rebelled shall be destroyed, and that without remedy." "He that being often reproved, hardeneth his neck shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy." Proverbs 29:1.

In the light of these scriptures, I am convinced that America is on God's list!... Never did a generation of people live in such critical times. Decay has already progressed far. Judgment is on the way. And there is only one hiding place from the wrath of God. That hiding place is in the cleft of the Rock, Christ Jesus, protected by His mighty hand.

My friend, have you found the cleft in the rock? Has the mighty protecting hand of God shut you in? Do you have on the wedding garments? Are you ready for the wonderful coming of Jesus Christ? If the storm should strike tonight, would you be hidden in that cleft in the rock, which is Christ?...
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George Washington's Vision

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This afternoon, as I was sitting at this table engaged in preparing a dispatch, something seemed to disturb me. Looking up, I beheld standing opposite me a singularly beautiful female. So astonished was I, for I had given strict orders not to be disturbed, that it was some moments before I found language to inquire the cause of her presence. A second, a third and even a fourth time did I repeat my question, but received no answer from my mysterious visitor except a slight raising of her eyes.

By this time I felt strange sensations spreading through me. I would have risen but the riveted gaze of the being before me rendered volition impossible. I assayed once more to address her, but my tongue had become useless, as though it had become paralyzed.

A new influence, mysterious, potent, irresistible, took possession of me. All I could do was to gaze steadily, vacantly at my unknown visitor. Gradually the surrounding atmosphere seemed as if it had become filled with sensations, and luminous. Everything about me seemed to rarefy, the mysterious visitor herself becoming more airy and yet more distinct to my sight than before. I now began to feel as one dying, or rather to experience the sensations which I have sometimes imagined accompany dissolution. I did not think, I did not reason, I did not move; all were alike impossible. I was only conscious of gazing fixedly, vacantly at my companion.

Presently I heard a voice saying, "Son of the Republic, look and learn," while at the same time my visitor extended her arm eastwardly, I now beheld a heavy white vapor at some distance rising fold upon fold. This gradually dissipated, and I looked upon a stranger scene. Before me lay spread out in one vast plain all the countries of the world — Europe, Asia, Africa and America. I saw rolling and tossing between Europe and America the billows of the Atlantic, and between Asia and America lay the Pacific.

"Son of the Republic," said the same mysterious voice as before, "look and learn." At that moment I beheld a dark, shadowy being, like an angel, standing or rather floating in mid-air, between Europe and America. Dipping water out of the ocean in the hollow of each hand, he sprinkled some upon America with his right hand, while with his left hand he cast some on Europe. Immediately a cloud raised from these countries, and joined in mid-ocean. For a while it remained stationary, and then moved slowly westward, until it enveloped America in its murky folds. Sharp flashes of lightning gleamed through it at intervals, and I heard the smothered groans and cries of the American people.

A second time the angel dipped water from the ocean, and sprinkled it out as before. The dark cloud was then drawn back to the ocean, in whose heaving billows in sank from view. A third time I heard the mysterious voice saying, "Son of the Republic, look and learn," I cast my eyes upon America and beheld villages and towns and cities springing up one after another until the whole land from the Atlantic to the Pacific was dotted with them.

Again, I heard the mysterious voice say, "Son of the Republic, the end of the century cometh, look and learn." At this the dark shadowy angel turned his face southward, and from Africa I saw an ill omened specter approach our land. It flitted slowly over every town and city of the latter. The inhabitants presently set themselves in battle array against each other. As I continued looking I saw a bright angel, on whose brow rested a crown of light, on which was traced the word "Union," bearing the American flag which he placed between the divided nation, and said, "Remember ye are brethren." Instantly, the inhabitants, casting from them their weapons became friends once more, and united around the National Standard.

"And again I heard the mysterious voice saying "Son of the Republic, look and learn." At this the dark, shadowy angel placed a trumpet to his mouth, and blew three distinct blasts; and taking water from the ocean, he sprinkled it upon Europe, Asia and Africa. Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene: From each of these countries arose thick, black clouds that were soon joined into one. Throughout this mass there gleamed a dark red light by which I saw hordes of armed men, who, moving with the cloud, marched by land and sailed by sea to America. Our country was enveloped in this volume of cloud, and I saw these vast armies devastate the whole county and burn the villages, towns and cities that I beheld springing up. As my ears listened to the thundering of the cannon, clashing of sword, and the shouts and cries of millions in mortal combat, I heard again the mysterious voice saying, "Son of the Republic, look and learn" When the voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his trumpet once more to his mouth, and blew a long and fearful blast. "Instantly a light as of a thousand suns shone down from above me, and pierced and broke into fragments the dark cloud which enveloped America. At the same moment the angel upon whose head still shone the word Union, and who bore our national flag in one hand and a sword in the other, descended from the heavens attended by legions of white spirits. These immediately joined the inhabitants of America, who I perceived were will nigh overcome, but who immediately taking courage again, closed up their broken ranks and renewed the battle.

Again, amid the fearful noise of the conflict, I heard the mysterious voice saying, "Son of the Republic, look and learn." As the voice ceased, the shadowy angel for the last time dipped water from the ocean and sprinkled it upon America. Instantly the dark cloud rolled back, together with the armies it had brought, leaving the inhabitants of the land victorious!

Then once more I beheld the villages, towns and cities springing up where I had seen them before, while the bright angel, planting the azure standard he had brought in the midst of them, cried with a loud voice: "While the stars remain, and the heavens send down dew upon the earth, so long shall the Union last." And taking from his brow the crown on which blazoned the word "Union," he placed it upon the Standard while the people, kneeling down, said, "Amen."

The scene instantly began to fade and dissolve, and I at last saw nothing but the rising, curling vapor I at first beheld. This also disappearing, I found myself once more gazing upon the mysterious visitor, who, in the same voice I had heard before, said, "Son of the Republic, what you have seen is thus interpreted: Three great perils will come upon the Republic. The most fearful is the third, but in this greatest conflict the whole world united shall not prevail against her. Let every child of the Republic learn to live for his God, his land and the Union." With these words the vision vanished, and I started from my seat and felt that I had seen a vision wherein had been shown to me the birth, progress, and destiny of the United States.
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OP - Brother - dont take this the wrong way but your not a man with prophesy here.. you are being led by your own pride and understanding which is of "you" not of "god". You remind me of a spitting image of myself last year but it wasnt until i was able to humble myself and get rid of all the self pride i had tucked away in me that blinded me from the real power of god and im still struggling myself with certain things in my life like all of us do. The thing is i was led astray just like your doing to yourself because we allow our self pride to evict the holy spirit out of ourselves. Im not perfect..im not better then anyone else in here..im saying that i had to be broken down by god in order to truly see where i was with my life..the pride that blinded me and only until i let that go is when i could start to harness the true power of god..and i got a ways to go..i struggle every day with so many things.

Listen brother - dont let this anger you, make you feel bad or embarrass you in front of your comrades but truth be told - This is not of a gift from god that you flaunt to-and-fro but from satan himself. This is why we must humble ourselves before we can be linked to the lord such as a real prophet is...we must rid of all pride otherwise we give full dominion to satan as satan was casted out for the very same thing.. Pride and god hates pride because pride is of the devil. If we allow satan to have full dominion over us.. we ourselves will be created in the image of satan and not of god which is a man with a prideful heart. Heck.. even your signature tells me this and im nothing but a heathen.

Dont believe me? Read below...

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Sin Of Pride - The Sin of Sins
The sin of pride is the sin of sins. It was this sin, we're told, which transformed Lucifer, an anointed cherub of God, the very "seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty,"1 into Satan, the devil, the father of lies, the one for whom Hell itself was created.2 We're warned to guard our hearts against pride lest we too "fall into the same condemnation as the devil."3

It was the sin of pride which first led Eve to eat of the forbidden fruit. In Genesis we read, "Then the serpent said to the woman, 'You will not surely die. For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.' So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate."4 And who do you think was that serpent of old who first introduced Eve to this sin of pride? It was none other than the devil himself,5 eager to share his condemnation with others.

St. Augustine of Hippo (354-430 A.D.) wrote, "'Pride is the commencement of all sin'6 because it was this which overthrew the devil, from whom arose the origin of sin; and afterwards, when his malice and envy pursued man, who was yet standing in his uprightness, it subverted him in the same way in which he himself fell. For the serpent, in fact, only sought for the door of pride whereby to enter when he said, 'Ye shall be as gods.'"7

Sin Of Pride - Preoccupation With Self
The sin of pride is a preoccupation with self. It is thus very fitting that the middle letter in the word is "i." Pride is all about "me, myself, and I." So even as the word "pride" is centered upon an "i," the sin itself is also centered upon "I." We read of Lucifer's fall, "How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, you who weakened the nations! For you have said in your heart: 'I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.' Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, to the lowest depths of the Pit."8 Satan's enmity against God began with "I". And so it is with us. If you are preoccupied with yourself, you are suffering from the sin of pride.

One way to determine whether or not you are preoccupied with yourself is to evaluate your motives. Take the pursuit knowledge for example. If you study hard because that's what the Lord wants you to do and you're being obedient to Him, that's good. That's obedience to God. Or if you study hard because you want to become a teacher so that you can edify others and help them to grow, that's good too. That's love for others. But if you study hard solely to amass knowledge for yourself, just so you can say that you know more than everyone else, that's bad! Your focus is upon yourself and your own glory. That's preoccupation with self. That's pride. And if this is the case for you, not only are you already suffering from pride, you're setting yourself up to be totally consumed by it! The Apostle Paul wasn't joking when he said, "Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies."9 And anyone who is ever been there will tell you, knowledge for the wrong reasons (i.e. personal glory) will lead to a proud heart and enmity against God.

Sin Of Pride - An Outline
The sin of pride is rightfully distinguished as the foremost among the seven "deadly sins," each of the seven equally as deadly (Proverbs 6:16-19), but none quite as notorious as this "sin of the devil."10 We're going to look at this sin of sins: how it manifests itself in our thoughts and lives, what are its effects and how we are to fight against it taking hold in our hearts. We'll begin by looking at two people in history that committed the sin of pride and how they're portrayed in the Bible. We'll look at how pride manifested itself in their lives and we'll make some practical observations. Then we'll look at how pride can infect our own hearts and minds, and finally, we'll discuss how to combat the sin of pride with humility. To skip right to the practical application of pride and humility, click here. We strongly recommend however that you read this short article in its entirety.

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Thank you for all of your contributions to this

prophecy thread! May the Lord Jesus give you His peace!

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Bishop John H. Koyle Prophecies

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Since he never kept a diary or personal record of any kind, many of the visions and spiritual experiences of Koyle can no longer be accounted for. However, the one experience upon which all sources agree is the vision received in 1894 wherein the mine was revealed to him. On this subject, the following statement was made by Carter E. Grant in a letter to Apostle James E. Talmage on September 30, 1931:
"I heard this story repeated by Brother Koyle in 1911, 1912, 1913, 1914, and 1915, and many times since. One peculiar thing about Brother Koyle, he never crosses himself, repeating his dream with the same exactness as he did in the beginning. One would think he would change it or add to it, but he never has."
The messenger told him the purpose of the mine would be to bring relief to the Lord's faithful people at a time when great tribulation and distress would be in the land. The mine was to be called the "Relief Mine." He told him of a period of four years of famine and explained that the first two years the Saints would be able to get by, but the third and fourth years they would have nothing to eat unless it was prepared and stored up against that time. Then there would be two more years which would be a recovery period. The messenger explained that there would be winters of heavy snow and big snow drifts after which there would be a mild open winter, but whether that winter was to follow immediately or whether some other winters would be in between, he never explained.
However, immediately following the mild open winter, there would be a hot, dry summer. The crops would come up in the spring, and there would be considerable moisture, and the crops would be glorious (that is the word Bishop used to use.) He saw the wheat would grow up and head out beautifully, and the irrigated wheat would mature, but the dry land wheat would not have enough moisture to fill out. By harvest time the heads would curl over in a sort of crescent shape. This was shown to him in another dream wherein he saw he went into the wheat fields when they were binding the grain which looked like it would be a splendid crop. He picked up a bundle of wheat by the binding twine, and the head's end of the bundle came up with the butt end of the bundle hanging down because it was heavier. Realizing that the head end should have gone down if there had been good wheat in it, he examined the heads of wheat by crushing them in his hands to bring out the kernels. He found that the wheat was terribly shrunken and not fit for food. He was told by the messenger that this condition would bring about a shortage of food during the first year of harvest.
The second year he was shown would be the same only much less food raised. Still, the irrigated grain would be good. He was told we would need to store up the first and second years grain to supply food for the third and fourth years. The third year the shortage would be so great that there would hardly be anything raised for food. The fourth year they would not be able to raise anything for food.
He was shown in another dream that during the fourth year there would be plenty of money to buy food and he with others went up and down throughout the country seeking to buy food and they could not buy any. Any people who had a little food would not sell it at any price. During this time of famine there would be no rain to do any good. He saw the clouds would come up, and it would look like it was going to rain, but a wind would come up and blow the clouds away; and if there was any rain at all, it was just a few drops which were not sufficient to do any good.
The purpose of the mine was to build store bins and store up wheat and other foods like Joseph of old who was sold into Egypt. He saw the rains would come in the fifth year, and they would be forced to spare a little wheat for seed but would be sorely pressed to raise enough to eat during the fifth year and save enough for seed for the sixth year. The rains continued to come, the crops grew, and at the harvest time of the sixth year they would have enough food to carry on. He was told by the messenger that there would be a great crash in the land before the period of famine began. This crash would be brought about by prices going up, which condition was illustrated to him as being like a person on high stilts. When prices became extremely high, something happened in the land like knocking the stilts from under the person and down came everything. Businesses closed down, labor was thrown out of work, people were hungry, and great tribulations were in the land. He saw that the best place to live and to work would be at the mine. Those who worked there would be the best off. He was told by the messenger that the Church program to care for the poor would all be used up during the first and second years of famine, that the mine would bring relief during the third year and would carry on the relief from the third year on.
Koyle gave progress reports of things that would happen inside of the mine and about other things. He gave probably one of these reports each month or so at the thursday night meetings. This is what kept up a great amount of interest for the miners to look forward to.
Bishop Koyle's Prophecies and revelations are abundant with details of the famines of the last days. Koyle also described this food shortage that had been shown to him in dreams. Grain would grow up as though it would produce a fine crop--but something caused it to shrivel up and become a valueless harvest. Famine would occur all over the world--not only because of crop failures, but because of the troubles and chaos caused by the shutdown of manufacturing and transportation.
At that early date he also said words like these: "By the time we get our ore, the mining districts will be almost at a standstill. These automobiles will get larger and larger, until some of them will resemble street cars, filled with people. Then, too, I saw the farms all though the country all being mortgaged, and as a relief to the condition, the people were coming to borrow money at a low rate of interest from the Koyle Mining Company. I also saw a large bank belonging to our company standing on a certain corner in Spanish Fork. (I have since been shown the corner.) Then I saw the hard times beginning to tell upon the treasury of the Church, being more depleted than in many years. Then, right in the very midst of all these happenings, with things at their darkest, we began shipping ore, giving a decided relief to the situation." ("Grant/Talmage Statement", Sept. 9, 1931, p. 10)
In this section we'll review the many things he foretold to the stockholders.
HORSELESS CARRAGES
The Bishop saw in about 1914 that in time the horses would be left home. The new king of carriages that people would use would have two eyes so they could see at night time. He also saw these new vehicles would get larger and larger until they would become as large as box cars. They would travel through the country at night at a very great speed. Then it would be most unsafe to cross the street day or night.
SPANISH FORK POWER PLANT
About 1910 Koyle told a group that he would buy the dinners for the group if there was not an electric power plant on the Spanish Fork River within a given time. Koyle seemed to always be a winner. In 1911 Koyle told another group he would buy their dinners if there was not a powder plant built on the bench south of Mapleton, Utah. It so turned out that Koyle was right again.
REBUBLICAN ELEPHANT DREAM
Koyle foresaw the Republican victory of 1928 but stated that the man riding the donkey would win in 1932 and continue to win, establishing an unprecedented record of successive victories at the pools. During this time the elephant would become sick and unable to regain its feet. One attempt after another would be made until eventually, after many years, the elephant would rise to its feet and remain on them for a number of years, but would then go down and the country with it. There would then follow an unprecedented period of war, confusion, turmoil, and national disaster.
SIZE OF MONEY REDUCED
Bishop Koyle saw and told this in the early twenties that they would cut down the size of the greenbacks. You'll remember we used to have greenbacks about one and one-half times the size of what they are today. The miner that he told this to kept one of the $5.00 bills, which is redeemable in gold.
GOLD IS CALLED IN
Bishop Koyle told the miners that worked for him in 1920 that the government would call in all the gold in not many years. Do you remember this happened in 1933?
STATE TO BE A PARTNER IN THE MINE
About 1930 it was made known to the Bishop that he would have a partner in the Mine. It happened the State of Utah traded a section of land down in the southern part of Utah to the Government for Section 16 which just happened to be 640 acres right over the richest part of the nine rooms. This will give Utah 12-1/2 per cent of all the gold taken out of that area without them working at all for it. In addition, they have been receiving $320 per year ever since then.
STREETCAR TRACKS IN SALT LAKE CITY
Koyle said that probably in the thirties the mine would come in after the streetcar tracks were taken up in Salt Lake City. They took them up in the year 1945, as near as I remember.
THIS IS ALL THAT WILL BE HERE
One Thursday night, just a few days before Christmas in 1943, eight men came down to the mine earlier than usual so they could visit with the Bishop before the meeting began. When time for the meeting arrived, the Bishop said, "We might as well get started--this is all that will be here." The others looked out the window and saw a string of car lights heading up towards the mine. They called this to the Bishop's attention, but he still maintained that there would be no more arrive for the meeting. The meeting commenced, and no one else came. Afterward, they bid goodbye to the Bishop and started down the hill. They saw the reason that no one came to the meeting--the wind had blown big snow drifts over the road. A snow plow was just clearing the road, but the cars had previously turned back, since it would have been too late to get to the meeting.
BEACON ON THE MOUNTAIN
Once the Bishop pointed to the top of the mountains and said that the day would come when a light would be seen up there. A few years after the Bishop's death, the telephone company came to the officials of the mine for permission to share the use of their dugway so that a tower could be placed atop the mountain for a coast to coast dial system. When the tower was completed, a large beacon light was placed on top which could be seen from anywhere in the valley.
THE DROUGHT OF 1938
The Bishop once prophesied that there would be a drought come to the intermountain region. Then one day in May of 1938, after many continuous days of raining, the miners were kidding the Bishop not to worry about a famine or drought, but rather consider building an ark if the rains continued any longer. The Bishop listened to their joking and then replied that the rains would stop the next day and the drought would begin. Sure enough, the rains stopped on May the 18th and no moisture came until October. And, for the next few years the drought continued.
WORLD WAR I FORETOLD
Another of these outstanding dreams with a very narrow margin of timing was one that Bishop Koyle had back in 1908 or 1909, when he foretold World War I, and how the United States would be involved. He told how it would strike home to us because the 145th Field Artillery of Utah boys would be called to the colors. However, that should not concern anyone very much because they would never see any action on the front lines.
END OF WORLD WAR II FORETOLD
In addition to World War I, he had warned us of a greater war to come, and now World War II was here and I was involuntarily made one of Uncle Sam's soldiers. I remember during the late summer of 1942, I was home on furlough, and, of course, attended one of the weekly meetings at the Dream Mine. Bishop Koyle was addressing a group of his stockholders, and stated that he had just returned from a visit to his dentist, Dr. Alfred Brooksby in Fredonia, Arizona. He said that while there he had received a remarkable dream in which he was shown that World War II, would be over and won in three years from August 27, 1942. This was a great comfort to me, for I was in the army and was glad to know that this war would not mark the end of the world by any means, so I watched carefully to see if it would come true.
Fred Finch, a carpenter, was working at nearby Camp Kearns. Being very much devoted to the Dream Mine, he was also watching this prophecy carefully during the summer of 1945. A big boiler was being installed in one of the buildings at Camp Kearns, and he wrote on it with a piece of chalk, "Aug. 27th, 1945." His co-workers asked him what it meant, and he said, "It means that the war will be over and won by that date." Now, of course, no one believed him nor the source of information that he gave. It all appeared so very ridiculous and impossible at that time that everyone laughed at him.
Steve Wood, an insurance man, was also watching this prophecy, for he believed it implicitly since he had seen so many of Bishop Koyle's other prophecies come true. He told it to his friend, Les Goates, the Deseret News sport columnist, who also laughed at it and offered to take Steve and his wife to dinner if it came true, provided Steve would do the same for him and his wife if it did not come true. Les Goates knew he had a sure thing here and featured the bet in his column, since there were no sport events to write about for the duration of the war.
This prediction received wide circulation among the stockholders and their friends, and many Utah mothers were greatly comforted by it when their sons went to war. Some bore testimony in fast meetings of the safety of their boys based upon this prediction. Nevertheless, one morning large headlines appeared in the Salt Lake newspapers that the 145th Field Artillery had orders to move up to the front lines and would see action that very day.
When Fred Squires, one of his more active stockholders, read it he was so upset and disturbed about it that he took his newspaper and got into his car and proceeded at once to Spanish Fork to confront Bishop Koyle with this news and see what he had to say for himself now.
He found the Bishop doing his fall plowing, and stomped across the field toward him waving the newspaper in his hand and shouting that John H. Koyle was a false prophet. When fully appraised of the situation, Bishop Koyle looked him straight in the eye and unhesitatingly declared: "Fred, that newspaper is a lie! They will not see action on the front!" Then he said what was still harder for Fred Squires to believe: "The war will be over before they get there!"
And so it was. That newspaper was an early morning edition with the date line of November 11, 1918. They did not know it at the moment, but the Armistice which had caused a last minute cancellation of the 145th's orders, had just hit the news wires, and by the time Fred Squires was making his return trip to Salt Lake City, wild and excited celebrating was in progress all along the way.
Well, as you all know, the whole war picture changed over night when the Atom Bomb was dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki August 6th and 7th, which resulted in an armistice with Japan on August 14th, 1945. Then the formal surrender took place on the Battleship Missouri, on September 3rd, 1945, so that August 27th, 1945, was well centered in that group of dates, and once again Bishop John H. Koyle was a vindicated prophet.
However, the General Authorities still refused an audience to Bishop Koyle. How strange that the Bishop tried all his life to personally speak with the Church Authorities, but with every attempt they flatly refused.
HOUSES LIKE CHICKEN COOPS
The Bishop was amused at how some of the new houses would look at this time. He said that they seemed to be patterned after chicken coops. They would have almost flat roofs and a big window in front, and cost so much that the people who lived in them would be worried as to how they could ever pay for them. When we first heard this it seemed ridiculous that people would ever build houses like that. Shortly after World War II, new housing developments began to boom around the country building home exactly this way. This style is still current and so are the heavy mortgages.
A LONG AND A SHORT SHUT DOWN
Bishop Koyle occasionally spoke of a long shut down, and also a short shut down that the mine must experience before final vindication. Many of us thought that the long shut down must be the one in the past from 1914 to 1920; but history was to prove that it was yet in the future. He saw that the miners would leave the hill, even he would not be there. The stockholders would be at bitter logger-heads with each other, and some who had been the best of friends, now would be enemies. Two of the directors would turn their backs on the mine, while the others would not be of much use to it. Some of the stock would change hands for as little as ten cents a share, while others would even regard it as of no value at all. In fact, it would appear as though this whole project was at long last finished and dead, once and for all. For that matter, mining elsewhere in Utah would be dead or in a very dilapidated condition. He would point to the Tintic-Eureka district while saying this, indicating there would be little or no activity.
DARK, BLACK CLOUDS
The final struggle toward the end was further emphasized in another dream in which he saw heavy, dark, black clouds gather over the valley and weigh depressingly heavy over the mine until there appeared to be no hope for the mine at all. Everything seemed to be crushed out of existence and the whole thing had come to an end. The Dream Mine really appeared to be finished and ended.
MDUDY WATER IN THE STREETS LIKE RIVERS
While compiling information for the first edition of this book, Ogden Kruat noticed a prophecy attributed to Bishop Koyle that was recorded by Norman Pierce. Since Pierce was no longer alive for confirmation and since he personally had never heard Bishop Koyle give such a prophecy, he decided not to include it in his book. Furthermore, he thought it sounded too fantastic and impossible to ever be fulfilled.
Koyle told people, "It looks like it won't be long now before we'll be having some of the big troubles we've been expecting. I saw in a dream the other night that muddy water would flow in the streets like rivers in almost every community from one end of the state
to the other. When it comes, it's going to cause a lot of trouble for a lot of people around here. It will be the beginning of really big troubles."
In the spring of about 1951 we had a real river of about three feet deep running west on 13th South. The streetcars went across on a bridge that was elevated at least four feet. Both sides of the street were sandbagged to a height of about four feet. I saw a man in about an 18-foot boat going west from State Street.
Years later, in 1983, rains began to pour over the state of Utah. They continued until water literally ran down the streets of cities from one end of the state to the other. Some small towns were literally abandoned until the water receded. Over half of the counties asked for Federal Emergency Assistance. A river had overflowed it's banks and was running down Main Street contained by sandbags and people fishing in it in down town Salt Lake City.
The Agriculture and Health Committee was told that Utah's farms and ranches have sustained an estimated $57.7 million loss. (S.L. Tribune, "Utah Floods", p. 62)
There were $63 million dollars in road damages in the State. The total estimate for damages from the rains and too rapidly melting snow came to over $200 million dollars.
LATTER GROUP TO FAIL
One day back in the twenties, he called Otto Lohmoelder, one of the miners, aside and told him: "Otto, towards the end there's going to be a group of men take over this mine, and try to bring it in before it is time for it to come in. But they will not have the proper guidance and inspiration, and they will fail." He also said that a great amount of credit was due them for keeping up all the assessment work for so many years.
He spoke of a short shut down at the very end, following which a couple of old timers, properly inspired, would come up and put in just a round or two of holes and strike the rich ore. Some believed that the "two old timers" referred to the Nephites themselves, while others thought that one of them might be Fred Fink (or Finch) because back in the twenties when Bishop Koyle was first introduced to him, he immediately recognized Fred Fink from a dream he had and declared, "That is the man I saw working on the hill when the mine turned out." Fred Fink has been very faithful and devoted to the mine, and it is very doubtful that any other man has given more of himself and his time and labor to this cause save John Koyle himself.
Bishop Koyle often said that the first shipment of ore out of this tunnel would return every dollar invested. (At this writing that shipment would have to have a value of close to a million dollars!) When pressed to tell how much the first shipment would run, he declared that it would be around $12,000 a ton on the low grade, while the high grade that would come a little later, would be worth much more,--almost beyond belief. The ore would come just in the nick-of-time to provide very much needed relief. In fact, there would be some who said that it had come in too late to do any good, but such would not be the case, for the stockholders would rally together and things would move swiftly on every side to accomplish all that was supposed to be accomplished. But nevertheless, there would be many who would wish that we could turn back the clock of time, even without the Dream Mine, if only these calamities could be averted, while others would look upon the depression of the thirties, by comparison, as "the good old days of the thirties."
GENEVA STEEL, KENNECOTT UTAH COPPER AND TINTIC MINING DISTRICT
At a thursday night meeting the bishop told stockholders that a big employer in Salt Lake City, Kennecott Copper and a new modern steel plant built on the edge of the Utah Lake as a result of the war efforts in WW II, Geneva Steel, would both close down toward the end times. This happened about 40 years later. First Kennecott shut down it's Bingham Canyon operation in Utah and then Geneva Steel followed suit soon after. They both reopened their doors within a couple of years with Geneva reopening with new owners. Geneva closed once again due to cheap foreign steel imports and presently (2004), Kennecott is wondering they will be around in the next few years.
Koyle also said that when the mine came in, all the mines in Tintic District in Utah would be at a stand still. This is pretty much the case today.
A WARNING ABOUT WALL STREET RIGHT BEFORE THE FINAL CRASH
Bishop Koyle said that Wall Street would have a major drop sometime before the total failure and that the Government would step in to help save it. In October 1988 (Black Monday) the stock market came to within two hours of total catastrophe and the federal government stepped in to prevent it from crashing. Then again on 11 September 2001 when the twin towers of the Trade Center came crashing down, the markets took a big tumble when they reopened for business. On his radio talk show, G. Gordon Liddy reported that a friend of his working for Merrill Lynch, a stock brokerage firm, called to tell him that the government was feeding funds into the market.
CHURCH, STATE AND NATION
Koyle said also the Church, the State, and the Nation, in rapid succession would be set in order and brought up a standin' like a wild colt to the snubbing post.
A SEVEN YEAR SCOURGE OF DROUGHT
Associated with this time of distress and one of the principal things that would compound it beyond endurance for many, was a four year drouth, attended by great crop failures and famine, which would require from two to three years for recovery, depending upon where one lived. There would be seven distressful years filled and compounded with drouth, plague, famine, warfare, and other divine judgments that would sweep the wicked from off the face of the earth in preparation of the Lord's second coming. He had a favorite expression to characterize these events when he would say: "A setting-in-order will take place, and the Church, the State and the Nation will be brought up a standin' to judgment like a wild colt to a snubin' post." Yes, there would be a setting-in-order develop right along the line to prepare the whole earth for the coming of Christ. It was like going down into a deep valley that would take 3 1/2 years to go down into, and another 3 1/2 years to climb out again into a new and wonderful world.
He always described this series of drouth years and crop shortages as follows: The first year would not be felt very much; but the second year would be worse with less crops; and the third year would also produce very poor crops; and in the fourth year there would be no crops at all.
In the fourth year he saw the grain come up around here like it was going to make into a bumper crop, and then something made it all wither and die like a blight or a terrific heat had taken it, leaving the people without harvest and in famine. And there was famine all over the country, not only because of these crop shortages, but because of the great troubles that had come causing manufacturing and transportation to cease. In fact, he saw that, although we had plenty of gold available, try as we would everywhere, we could buy no wheat with it.
Further, that in the fifth year, there would be plenty of moisture again but there would still be a shortage of food in the land because of the lack of seed to plant, --most of the seed having been eaten for food. And that only after the harvest of the sixth year, and in some places not until after the harvest of the seventh year, would crop production revert to abundance.
Some have quoted Bishop Koyle as describing the progress of the drouth years about as follows: The first year,--about a seventyfive percent crop; the second year,--about a fifty percent crop; the third year,--about a twentyfive percent crop; the fourth year, no crops at all.
He pointed out that we should secure our wheat from the first and second years, because that raised in the third year would not be fit for human consumption because of its very poor quality; and in the fourth year there was no grain to be purchased at any price.
When these years arrived, he said, there would be very little doubt as to their being the right years, for RELIEF would be the biggest and most important issue of the day. As time went on, we would be reluctant to listen to the news, because it would all be so awful distressing and vexing that we would prefer not to hear about it.
A LITTLE PATCH OF BLUE
When it seemed as if all was lost and the Dream Mine had come to complete failure, he looked from the mine, while standing on Knob Hill, over to the northwest toward the Point-of-the-Mountain and beheld a small rift in the dark clouds revealing a little spot of blue about the size of a man's hand. As he watched it, this rift suddenly expanded, and with a majestic sweep, the heavens were cleared of the dark, black, oppressive clouds, and the mine and its surroundings were restored to the brilliant sunshine of a fine, glorious day, with all oppressiveness having vanished away.
THE MINE COMES IN
He also saw the Mine would come in after a hard winter followed by a water-logged spring, then a dry hot summer, and when the wheat was in the boot, the Bishop came out of the tunnel with the first gold in his hands.
THE LIGHT COMPLEXIONED - WHITE HAIRED MAN
When it was time for the mine to turn out, he said, there was a light complexioned man with white hair who would come from easr of the mine with a big check to finance the first shipment of ore. He seemed to be identified with "the little spot of blue in the dark clouds over by the Point of the Mountain." In one or two rounds of holes they would strike the rich gold ore in the fourth finger of the five fingers in the right-hand drift. The stockholders would rally with him and bring about many wonderful changes around the mine. This man would come with a new process that would entirely revolutionize the entire mining industry. Could this man be Al Sinclair AKA as the translated Alma the Younger who came to the mine in the 1950's? the Bishop along with Al Sinclair said that the messengers would return before the mine opened in their true identity. Al had a lot of interest in new inventions and mining. Who would know best how things should be done when the mine is to be opened?
WAR COMES TO OUR COAST LINE
War would be brought to our coast line, but we would not be invaded at this time. However, a Russian invasion of the U.S. and Canada would come later.
FUTURE OVERNITE CRASH / U.S. PRESIDENT TO DIE
One time in about 1946 an attorney who was quite interested in the Mine, and sometimes he attended the thursday night meetings, said to the Bishop, "How are you going to stop the Government from taking about 94% of the gold away from you?" The Bishop said, "Turney, there ain't goin' to be no Government when the Mine comes in!"
Bishop Koyle said that on the first shipment of gold that there would be a small piece in the paper near the mining page and few people would see it. It would be about one inch long in the paper. At this same date and on this same paper there would be four-inch headlines. We were never told what those headlines would be about. Also, when the second shipment of gold was made, there would be a jam at the mountain and hundreds of people would never get up there to be in the midst of it. I understood this jam would reach for several miles.
Koyle saw that the US President would die in office just a while after the mine came in. He saw them look up and down the country everywhere to try to find a man to take his place and they would not be able to find one and the nation wandered in chaos. That's how bad it will get.
He was shown that a Republican Administration would made great efforts to save the economy. He also said prices would go higher and higher and all at once something happened and in one night the props would be knocked out from under everything and down would come everything. This condition of rising prices would be brought about by strikes.
When the props give away there will suddenly be an overnight price and wage crash or deflation that seemed to occur the same time as the death of the republican president. The disaster which followed rated 4-inch headlines in newspapers throughout the country.
According to Velma Kunz who was the wife of a miner that lived on the hill near the mine, the bishop would many times get the miners off to work and then come on down the hill. He would many times stop in and talk to Velma. One day she asked when the economic crash would occur. He was sitting at the time with his arms across his chest and then he dropped his head down. She thought he had gone to sleep. After a period of time he opened his eyes and looked up at her and told her this. The overnite crash would occur on a holiday weekend where the holiday falls on a monday.
Koyle was shown that our entire wage and price structure had risen higher and higher so that it was like it was up on high stilts, and then suddenly it was as if someone over-night had kicked the stilts out from under it, and the whole thing came down with a crash to about 20 cents on the dollar. Property would only be worth l/5 of its form er value, but his mortgage and other fixed debts would remain the same.
The US would call it's military home from all over the world just to keep the greenbacks home and to keep the peace.
CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS TO CLOSE
Bishop saw that after the Mine came in, that all the churches and schools would be closed down for a while. He saw this in about 1930.
U.S. MONEY TO BECOME WORTHLESS
Additionally Koyle said, not long after the mine came in, the U.S. money would become totally worthless.
THE MINE TURNS OUT IN THE FALL
A small notice would appear in the paper about the mine shipping it's first shipment of ore to be processed but the biggest economic disaster in the world would be the news of the day and would affect everyone.
The mine would pay it's first dividends or relief from the mine in November or December. Koyle said he had a dream that after the mine came in, many were sitting around and giving praise to God for this happy Christmas. In time we would learn to live without money under the Law of Consecration.
The Bishop said probably in the thirties that when the Mine comes in, we will have a queer lot of Dream Miners that want to do many things. One would buy a large automobile and tour many countries in the world; many would buy large ranches and stock them well with cattle; and Parley here would charter a ship and go down into Central America and hire a lot of men and uncover one of those ancient temples, and bring his findings back and give them to the BYU.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO DO
Well now, Bishop Koyle will tell you the most important thing for you to do. You should have your houses filled with a large amount of food, and go inside and cut off your radio, TV, your telephone, and your daily papers. You will not want to know what is going on in the outside world at all. I saw that two out of every three people on the earth would lose their lives from starving, or from being killed on account of the judgments of God that would be in full swing. I saw that I could walk great distances right here in Utah, by stepping from one man's dead body to the other. After you get inside your houses, you will be in there for quite some time. To me, my own opinion would be we would be there for the third and fourth years of famine, and probably another one because there was such a shortage of seeds to plant that there was not an abundance until the sixth year. I have been wrong before, and the best thing to do is to pray to Him for advice.
MEN OFFER TO BUY THE MINE
Bishop Koyle said that right after the Mine came in, there would be two men from the east, and they would bring suitcases filled with gold, and stack it on the dining room table in great stacks, and offer it all to the Bishop for his Mine. The Bishop only smiled and said, "No."
The Bishop said that if people could travel very far, this being the richest gold mine in the entire world anywhere, there would be many whores, gamblers, drunkards, confidence men, and what have you. All of them would be trying to make a stake for themselves. God will not permit this on His works.
$6,000 PER SHARE
Bishop said this stock would go to a high of $6,000 per share, and he saw that people would go to court for one-half of one share.
A SILVER DOLLAR WILL BUY ONE ACRE OF LAND
The bishop made the comment many times at the thursday night meetings that the day would come when a silver dollar would buy an acre of land.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS GREAT WEALTH
The purpose of this great wealth was that it must be reserved for building the nucleus for the political Kingdom of God. It would provide an honest money of gold and silver the would make possible the rapid construction of cities of refuge and stock them with food supplies and equip them with essential industries, so that these cities could be a refuge for righteous populations which would be segregated out in fulfillment of the parable of the wheat and the tares, thereby bringing to pass "an entire separation of the righteous from the wicked," as stated in D&C,63:54, and also in Section 86. This gold would also serve a wonderful purpose in beautifying the New Jerusalem and the Great Temple to be built there for the Lord's coming. A City to be inhabited by Nephites, Lamanites, the Ten Lost Tribes, and the repentant LDS Gentiles then sifted out.
THE RELIEF MINE BANK
As early as 1911, his prediction about the economic decline and collapse was recorded by Carter Grant. At that time he told about how he saw the Dream Mine establish a bank on a certain corner in Spanish Fork and later on he spoke of another one at the mine about 200 feet or so to the northwest of the north end of the concrete retaining wall, which was built many years ago, and it is below the place where the grain bins will be built. The other banks seemed to be useless and, although filled with money, they would lend hardly any of it for fear that it could not be paid back. And when they did lend any of it they were after high interest rates. Unemployment was widespread, and many people were losing their farms and homes because most of them would be mortgaged at this time. The other banks, he said, would arise against our bank, demanding that we cease letting money out at four percent with little or no security. But since we had plenty of gold back of us from this mine, there was nothing they could do about it. This crash would cause every bank in the country to eventually fail except those established by the Relief Mine which would have enough gold back of it to survive. Gold would become very powerful as a medium of exchange. He said that here in Utah we would return to gold and silver coinage, and that our local economy would hold up about two years longer than the rest of the nation.
This bank, soon after the Mine comes in, will have its vaults filled with gold, and when the company loans money to poor people at from 0% to as high as 4%, according to whether they were well to do or poor. He saw groups of people coming to this bank with long; sad faces, their pleas for help having gone unheeded by the other banks; but they left with happy faces because here they had found relief, and their homes and farms were saved from foreclosure.
Gold would increase in value to hundreds of dollars an ounce or more at this time, and we would be doing a big business with the Denver Mint. At first we took our gold and silver to Denver for coinage, but soon that was no longer safe, so we had to establish a mint at the mine and confine our activities to these valleys. He said that people blessed this company for what we were doing, because their burden of distress was so great that nowhere could they find relief except here. Yes, "The Relief Mine" would be its rightful name then, and relief very important.
GRAIN BINS TO BE BUILT
Carter Grant recorded some of his conversations with Bishop Koyle on these important matters:
Wednesday, March 4, 1931:
Last night Brothers William A. Jones, Clyde Hood, Philip Tadje, Richard Sonntag, and I went to Brother Koyle's, arriving at 8:00 p.m. After asking each one of us about the hard times, getting what we knew, Brother Koyle opened declaring that they would grow worse and worse each week; that even the Church would become so hard pressed that the cry of the needy could not be satisfied.
Also he said, "We will have a mild open winter after the mine comes in, which will permit us to pour concrete all winter long to build the grain bins He spoke of a fall following the dry, hot summer that would be more like spring when the mine turned out, and it would be followed by a very mild, open winter which would permit the uninterrupted construction of a series of large grain bins, or elvators which would hold a million bushels of wheat. These would be built high on the hill near the mine and get them filled up against this time of great distress and famine. These would hold one million bushels of grain. This we would do, he said, barely in the nick-of-time before it would be too late when no more food supplies could be purchased at any price. This would keep many, many thousands of people from starving during the time of famine. At the very same time, he saw that the 315,000 [bushel] grain elevator built at Welfare Square in Salt Lake City would be entirely empty right at the time it would be most needed.
March 14, 1931:
Now as to storing wheat! Since this subject has been upon Brother Koyle's mind for some time, he stated to us that on Friday, March 13th, while coming out the tunnel, inspiration came to him like a voice speaking, telling him to build double cement bins on the side hill near the powder magazine, one below the other, so that he could let the grain from the first bin run down into the next and then down into the third and fourth. These long cement tanks or bins were to begin at the upper road and stretch down the hill, so that with the gates open between the bins, grain that was dropped into the top one would easily find its way down the incline to the lowest level. * * * Then too, this plan, says Bishop Koyle, "will put the grain upon our property where no one can molest it, where we can make distribution as we see fit. All eyes are to look toward us for relief."
(Journal of Carter Grant)
He urged us to look forward to the fifth year, when a great change would take place in the earth and it would be much different so that "the former rains and the latter rains would return moderately," and the earth would no longer be a thirsty land, but would yield richly from its seed. It would only be because of a shortage of seed that we must still eat sparingly.
He also saw that we would buy our wheat at 50 to 60 cents per bushel, and that it would be bought out of the first and second years of crops in those famine years. He looked up and down the state everywhere on the third year of famine, and he could not buy a bushel of wheat for a bushel of gold.
We learned through the Bishop we would have nine months to build grain bins and store food, and that would be the longest that money would be good until transportation fails.
INDUSTRY AND BUSINESS CLOSE
Here in Utah, big industries would be shut down as well as government related industries and unemployment would be widespread.
GREAT EARTHQUAKES
John H. Koyle was gifted with dreams not directly related to the mine. For example, he saw that during the time of great tribulation there would be a massive earthquake out in the Pacific Ocean that would bring giant tidal waves along our Pacific Coast. This would in turn bring destructive quakes along the San Andreas Fault and wreck great destruction in San Francisco and Oakland. If inspired, prophetic warnings were heeded in time, many of our people would escape these disasters.
DROUGHT, FAMINE AND DEATH
The Bishop said we would have four years of famine here in Utah due to a 4-year drouth and increasing crop failures. The last two years of this would result in major famine, causing many to die of hunger and plague. OVerall, there would be seven years of famine in the world. The fifth year here would be ever so scarce because of a shortage of seeds to plant. The sixth year the rains came and there would be an abundance from then on. One third of the people is all that would enjoy it as the rest would be dead.
The time would come when one could not buy a bushel of wheat for a bushel of gold, but during those first two years of the drouth, wheat could be purchased for as little as 50 and 60 cents a bushel; and thus from our gold and silver we would be able to get enough to survive the famine here in these valleys.
REFUGES AND TENT CITIES
The nation was in a sad state of famine, mobocracy and chaos exactly as seen and prophecied by the Prophet Joseph Smith. Entire states would be depopulated, with not enough living to bury the dead. This in turn would cause a great influx of tens of thousands refugees, consisting mostly of women and children, looking for food and safety until there were more people living in tents than in houses in the valleys of Utah. The Bishop also said that two out of every three would die or be killed when the judgments of God came, and this would be true all around the entire world.
TRANSPORTATION TO STOP
We would have our gold and be able to buy our food and grain supplies barely in the nick-of-time he said, because in a short time the situation would grow so bad that all of the automobiles and trains would stop running, and manufacturing would cease because of a complete breakdown in our economy. They would have to put the horseless carriage back in the barn and get the horse out, if they still had a horse. (He made this prediction so far back that the terms "Automobile" and "garage" were not yet in popular usage.)
Back in the early part of the century, when the automobile was still a novelty, he would tell his listeners that these vehicles would be so numerous before long, that almost everybody would have one and they would get to be as big as boxcars, and be filled with people going at great speeds up and down the highways, and they would drive thru the night with brilliant lights. Soon they would be lined up so thick along the curb on business streets, that it would be difficult for one to get from the street into the stores and back again. Of course, no one in the early part of the century believed him.
About this time, he said, transportation would stop all over the country, and manufacturing would cease, and the people would have to return to their horses, if they had any, or go on foot. Then we could no longer buy any wheat because there was no way to get to where the big supplies were located, nor could it be brought to us. And those who did have any wheat on hand would not sell it for a bushel of gold. Then the really big troubles began with famine, warfare, plagues and judgments, and we would have to make White City and the Dream Mine into a fortress to protect ourselves from ravaging mobs. In many places, he said, the dead would outnumber the living, while in others there would not even be enough living to bury the dead. We would have to build a self-sufficient economy of our own with oil wells and industries to take care of our own needs. This, indeed, would be a time when we would have to live close to the Lord and depend upon Him for both temporal and spiritual salvation. We would learn the meaning of repentance.
WHITE CITY, A CITY OF REFUGE
The Bishop explained that a beautiful city would grow at the base of the mountain after the mine came in. Nearly all of the people of the city would be stockholders, or at least believe in the mission of the mine. So many of the buildings would be painted white, that it would be called "White City".
When ogden Kraut went to work at the mine, he met an elderly gentleman named Salsbury, who had been a barber in California before being employed at the mine. He told me that while they were living in California, he came home one day after work and lay down on the living room couch to rest. His wife asked him if he would like to go with her to the store, but he declined by saying he would rather just rest for awhile. After she left, he was looking over towards the wall when suddenly it began to vanish, but a vision of a beautiful valley came into view. He saw mountains in the background and a large lake nearby. He was high in the air looking down, and there below him was a beautiful city in which almost every building was painted white. He looked upon the scene with awe and wonderment, when suddenly the picture began to fade away and the wall came back into view. He was puzzled as to what it was, what it meant, and where the valley was. For over a year he marvelled at the beautiful scene that he had beheld in vision.
Then one day he went to Utah to visit some relatives who lived in Provo. During the visit they mentioned the Dream Mine, and how spiritual the Bishop was. They all agreed that it would be a very interesting visit to go up to the mine to see it. Salsbury went into the tunnel on their little guided tour and was utterly fascinated. Finally, on his exit from the main tunnel, he beheld mountains, the lake and the beautiful valley below--it was just as he had seen it in his vision, except there was no city below the hill. He hurried down to the house where the Bishop was and asked him what had happened to all the buildings that were supposed to be there. The Bishop told him that he had seen the city that would someday be built there.
White City would become one of many cities to spring up in the valleys of the Rocky Mountains. It would be designated along with others, as a place of refuge, a place of safety and peace from the scourges that would overtake the fallen nations of the world:
This beautiful "White City" together with a number of other beautiful cities, were to be rapidly built at this time and would serve as holy places of refuge where the more righteous of the LDS could be gathered out for safety as in the parable of the wheat and the tares, a people who would be determined to accept a Great Reformation that would be offered to them at this time, and they would dedicate themselves to living the Gospel of Jesus Christ in all its fulness with nothing left out. There would be radio and TV stations, power plants and airports arise in these ultra modern cities, and they would be stocked with food and equipped with essential industries that would enable them to survive the years of famine and distress, while the Lord purged the earth in preparation for His Millennial Reign. Here the very elect of the earth would prepare themselves to pioneer the New Age with a New Society that would replace the fallen Babylon. (The Dream Mine Story, Pierce, p. 64)
TO COME US ARMY
In 1934 construction began on the dugway that winds up the side of the mountain from the mill and over the saddle, linking the various tunnels together on the upper claims. This dugway would someday prove to have greater additional importance for the inhabitants of White City during a time of grave danger. Bishop Koyle saw that it would serve them as a means to places of refuge and safety where they could take needed supplies with them and find protection from an invading U.S. Army, larger than was Johnston's Army sent against the Saints about a century ago, This army would have orders to destroy them if they did not surrender and deny all affiliation with the new parliamentary nation.
While working on the Dream Mine dugway, June 17, 1934, I was standing with a pick on my shoulder talking to Bishop John H. Koyle, when the spirit of prophecy came over him, and pointing to me, he said, "Just as sure as you stand there with that pick on your shoulder, the time will come when you young men will have to defend this land against factions that will come here against us. You will defend it by the power of the Priesthood.
"They will send an army out here worse than Johnston's Army to put us down. They will offer protection to all who will deny their faith and surrender to them. And all the Gentiles will go over to them and about one third of the Mormons. Then when they are ready to completely destroy those of us who defy them, something will prevent them from doing it.
"During that time this dugway will serve as a means to refuge for many of our people with their supplies. We take cover in the safety of the tunnels until that army is destroyed together with all who surrender.
"Following this, we will also have the Russians to fight, and they will get half way across this country before they are put down." (--To the Missouri River.)
I noticed that he was somewhat shaken by this experience, and that he had to sit down to recover his strength. Later when I had discovered the Bulkley and Farnsworth visions about the U.S. Army coming against Zion, I learned that Bishop Koyle had never heard of them, and that he had no previous knowledge of the "U.S. Army worse than Johnston's coming against Utah."
When he had recovered enough to talk about it, I then pointed out that the tunnels would not offer much protection against an army. He then told me that the importance of the tunnels would be understood when this time came. Of course, I did not know in 1934, as I know today, that we would be taking refuge from the wrath of God upon the army and all who would surrender to it, when "the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat." (II Peter, 3:12) And "the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold." (See Isaiah, 30:26.)Oddly enough, a dugway that was constructed in 1934, many years after the dream was given, divided the ravine in which the main tunnel is located, into three segments; a short one, a long one, and another short one. And in like manner the history of the mine may be divided into three sections:--a relatively short one from 1894 to 1914, free from any troublesome opposition; --then a long one from 1914 to 1949, the time of Bishop Koyle's death, which was a long period of 35 years full of all manner of opposition from the Church, State, and Nation; and then the third period from his death to the present time, during which the mine has been rather dormant with little more than enough activity to justify the assessment work and keep a legal hold on the claims. The full symbolic vindication of the Green Spot is now due.
Although Bishop Koyle did not point out this similarity to my knowledge, he did feel inspired to build a secluded Green Spot in this third ravine, a sort of Holy of Holies, a Sanctum Sanctorium, where he and his close friends could retire for the more special matters of prayer and meditation. It was here that he and Will A. Jones, his secretary, and Henry Armstrong, his chief source of financial aid during the twenties, were granted another vision of the Three Nephite Apostles. And in answer to their prayer a piece of ore that had assayed worthless, but which Bishop Koyle had been shown should assay rich, now did assay rich when they took the same piece of rock back to Tintic for a second assay.
THE GREEN SPOT DREAM
Early in his mining career, the perilous course of his life's mission was made clear to him in another of his vivid dream's. Here his path of opposition and persecution was likened to the steep ascent up this holy mountain by means of three interlocking ravines, one above the other, with small landings between. These ravines led to a choice, beautiful Green Spot on the side of the mountain where the surrounding view was most beautiful to behold.
He saw himself, Bishop Ben H. Bullock, Lars Olson, June Peirce and a fifth unidentified man start out on horses to go up there. Early in the climb it became too steep for the horses to climb in the ravine, so Lars Olson, June Peirce, and the unidentified man left the two bishops on foot to climb the ravines, while they took the horses up on an easier round-about grade or dugway.
As Bishop Koyle and Bishop Bullock climbed up into the second ravine, enemies appeared on the adjacent ridges and began to fire upon them, and to hurl stones down upon them, and try in various ways to drive them back down or destroy them. However, they found it possible to avoid the arrows and shots and to continue their climb very guardedly; but as they reached the third ravine, their opposition became so intense that they were obliged to crawl along on their stomachs and take cover behind a large boulder.
Here Bishop Bullock saw that they were near by the Green Spot--just a little piece of trail left, so he decided to make a dash for it, although Bishop Koyle warned him against the danger of it. Bullock made it without injury, however, and immediately signaled Koyle to follow, which he did, and they found themselves safe upon this beautiful Green Spot on the side of the hill.
In a few moments the three men, who had taken the round-about way with the horses, joined the two bishops on the Green Spot, and the five of them had the most glorious and wonderful meeting and time of rejoicing with heavenly beings that they had ever had on this hill.
After giving thanks for their deliverance, they all exclaimed together: "Now for success! Now for the ore!" The seal was then broken on the mine and vindication was theirs. From then on, the same people who had so opposed them, turned about and offered them aid and the full hand of fellowship, and sought their favors.
At this writing, two of the five foregoing men have passed away. Bishop Koyle, Lars Olson, Ben Bullock and June Peirce have died in that sequence. The fifth man still remains unidentified. This dream may only be symbolic of eventual success or it may be something more literal from out of the resurrection. Who knows?
Certified statement made by Ben Bullock in the presence of witnesses on February 14, 1957. Note: This appearance seems to agree with what is called the Green Spot Dream of John H. Koyle. In this dream, Koyle claims to have seen himself with Bullock and a group of friends going up Water Canyon located near his mine. The group proceeded to go around the mountain side with horses while he and Bullock continued up the canyon on foot. They were forced to take cover from enemies who began firing at them from atop the ridge. As they approached the top, they came to a clearing which they must cross in order to reach a green spot on the other side which would furnish safety to them. Koyle warned Bullock of the danger, but he nevertheless broke from cover and reached safety just ahead of Koyle. Here they were welcomed by their friends who had gone around. A suggested meaning to this dream is that after much trial and peril, both would reach the desired goal of success. Bullock or Bullock's tunnel would produce first, followed shortly thereafter by Koyle's Dream Mine.
RUSSIA TAKES OVER EUROPE, ASIA AND AFRICA
In the thirties he spoke of Russia invading Turkey at this time to gain the Dardenelle-Bosporus Water-way. He said that at this time there would be trouble in Palestine or the Mid-East, which in turn would cause war to erupt in the Balkans as Russia mace a great military push toward Palestine and practically wiped Turkey off the European pert of the map.
He said that after the Reds took over most of Europe, Asia and Africa, they would invade the United States and Canada, and because of our chaotic condition, we could offer very little organized resistance. He said the Reds would get as far as the Missouri River or Mississippi River before they were stopped by Priesthood powers from heaven that would drive them out of the lands. The Chinese would invade the West Coast and get as far as the Sierra Nevadas before they were stopped by divine intervention and that these invasions would not reach us herein these valleys of the mountains.
PROPHECIES AND THEIR FULFILLMENT
The prophecies of Bishop Koyle were not given for entertainment nor curiosity; they were meant to convey a message of warning and instruction. If this generation fails to benefit from them, they justly deserve the consequences. The purpose of this chapter is to quickly review some of John Koyle's prophecies so that the readers can be more aware of their message and learn from them. The author (Ogden Kraut) worked with the Bishop at the mine for about two years and has personally seen the fulfillment of many of his prophecies and he talked with others who saw the fulfillment of nearly all the rest.
The following prophecies, though not necessarily the greatest, deserve mention and serious consideration:
1. Mobs in the Missionfield
* John Koyle was shown in dreams that mobs would harass the missionaries.
* Twice they came just as he was shown, but he avoided conflict because he had been shown what to do. One of these
prophecies concerned J. Golden Kimball, the mission president.
2. Operating the Mine
* Bishop Koyle was shown how to operate the mine, where to start, and what they would find along the way.
* The workers in the mine reported finding the very formations, colors and conditions that had been foretold, and at the
time they were to discover them.
3. Men and Money at the Mine
* The Bishop was promised that he need not worry about help at the mine, nor money to operate it. Both men and money
would always be forthcoming as the need arose.
* For 35 years, from 1914 to 1949, regardless of wars, depressions, inflations, opposition and persecution, the mine had
manpower when needed and always was able to meet operating expenses.
4. Cars like Boxcars
* When the automobile was in its beginning stages, Koyle said they would become as "big as railroad boxcars" and would
have something like "eyes" on them.
* Today we see thousands of huge cargo trucks on the highways, with headlights that look like eyes.
5. The Water Ditch
* The Bishop instructed workers to build a small ditch that would be big enough to carry the water they would find.
* The miners dug the ditch, and at the exact distance described by John Koyle, they hit the water that just filled the ditch.
6. The Mexican Temple
* When the Church announced that its next temple would be built in Mexico, the Bishop said it would not.
* A year later the Saints were driven out of Mexico, and the next temple was not built in that country.
7. World War I
* Bishop Koyle described a great world war in which the United States would become involved. Ten years later World War
I began.
* Koyle said that the 145th Artillery, most of which were Mormon boys, would not see action.
* Even though the 145th was sent to the front line, they did not engage in battle.
8. Depression of 1929
* The Bishop told his banker in Spanish Fork that in four months there would be a terrible depression.
* Four month later (October 29), the great depression began.
9. Shutdown and Reopening
* The two Nephites told John Koyle that the mine would, from necessity, be shut down, but that the powers that shut it down
would be the same powers to reopen it.
* Six months later the Bishop was told by the General Authorities of the Church that if he continued working and selling
stock at the mine, he would be excommunicated. The Bishop obeyed their injunction and closed down all operations at the
mine. After six years President Heber J. Grant sent a letter to the Bishop requesting that he open the mine to pay off a
large bill at ZCMI.
10. Joseph Fielding Smith's Sermon
* Bishop Koyle told J. Golden Kimball to go to J.F. Smith and ask him not to deliver his conference speech against the
mine.
* Unwillingly, J. Golden went to President Smith with the request, and was surprised to learn that Joseph Fielding had not
told anyone about that sermon. And so he never gave it. (This was one of J. Golden's favorite "Dream Mine" stories.)
11. End of World War II
* Shortly after Pearl Harbor was bombed by the Japanese, Bishop Koyle, said it would be exactly three years later before
the war would end.
* Three years later, in August 1945, the Japanese gave notice of their surrender.
12. The Powder Mill
* The Bishop foretold of a huge manufacturing plant that would be built near the entrance to the Springville Canyon.
* Many years later when the war began, a huge powder plant was built on this spot and remains there today.
13. Three Men Would Die
* The Bishop said that three men would die at the Dream Mine.
* After nearly 100 years of operation, exactly three men had been accidentally killed there.
14. Muddy Water
* John Koyle said muddy water would someday flow through the streets of Utah from one end of the state to the other.
* In 1983 heavy snow melt and rains caused water damages throughout Utah, in over 29 counties, from one end of the state
to the other.
15. Kennecott, Geneva, Tintic--Standstill
* The Bishop said before the mine would come in that Kennecott Copper and Geneva Steel would shut down, and the Tintic
Mining area would come almost to a standstill.
* In 1985, records show that all three occurred at the same time.
16. Wall Street Boost
* Bishop Koyle said that Wall Street would have a major drop sometime before the total failure, and at that time the
Government would step in to help save it.
* In October 1988 (Black Monday) the stock market came to within two hours of total catastrophe, and the Government
stepped in to prevent it.
17. The Beacon Light
* The Bishop described a beacon light that would someday be placed at the top of the Dream Mine mountain.
* Years after his death, the telephone company placed a transmitter and a huge beacon light on the top of the mountain--that
can be seen today.
JOHN JORDAN'S BLUE BOOKLET
During the summer of 1985, John Jordan published in pamphlet form an extensive list of 102 of Bishop Koyle's prophecies, as he and others understood them to be. To save space here, some of these items have been slightly condensed, omitting Jordan's personal interpretations and comments.
Bishop Koyle's Prophecies of the Last Days As recalled by others and compiled by John Jordan
1. The overall purpose of the mine was too big for the people to understand but, towards the end they would begin to
understand.
2. The Church would have a garment mill.
3. Houses would be low and would look like chicken coops.
4. What looked like sheep camps would be at almost every home.
5. Trucks looking like boxcars would be running up and down the roads.
6. The Church would build a 34-story office building in the heart of New York City. The building would not have totally paid for itself before the troubles occur and the mine comes in.
7. The United States would commence selling wheat to its greatest enemy.
8. The Republican elephant would be in power. At an election, it would sink to its knees, never to rise again.
9. Weather pattern changes would be seen to the far south-west. Drought would proceed northward year by year increasing in intensity until reaching the valleys of Utah. At that time the troubles were to start in the valleys. The drought would then head east, increasing in intensity.
10. Gold would be legal in trade.
11. A mine takeover attempt would occur internal to the leadership.
12. Before the mine comes in, all books and records must be in order. The Bishop warned that no brothers or relatives
should serve on the board at the same time.
13. On his deathbed, the Bishop called in John H. Koyle, III, and said, "I don't know what they will have done with the money. I just don't know what they have done with the money."
14. Before the mine comes in, two board members (or leaders) will leave the work. And, the rest will not be of much use to it.
15. Towards the end a group will try to bring in the mine early, but will not succeed. It is best not to attempt to bring the mine in early because if it is done, the government will tax it away, or take it over for its important strategic values.
16. Great value would not come from Old Spanish workings. Those workings would be used as a flux.
17. A group trying to bring the mine in towards the end would not have the spirit of discernment to know what to do.
18. Utah Copper will close towards the end.
19. Towards the end, Satan will try to stir up trouble for the mine in the valleys, but will not succeed. Then, he will come up on the mountain and try to stir up trouble with the people there and those in the valleys.
20. Dark clouds will hang over the mine and the valleys. People will be distrustful and will not talk to one another. Finally, when the clouds part and the sun shines, everyone will be happy and will converse with each other.
21. There will be a sifting of those worthy of the work.
22. Just before the end time, the mine will experience a short shutdown.
23. A "Gravel Train" operation will come to a halt incidental to the short shutdown. 24. Something will cause the Church welfare program to be inadequate at the end.
25. Stock will sell for 10 cents per share.
26. At the end things will happen so fast that a person will not be able to tell what is to occur first.
27. Finally, what few old stockholders are left will have to ban together to reclaim the mine.
28. The financial condition of the mine will be so bad at the end that a white-haired man from the North will have to come to furnish the money needed to outfit the processing of black ore.
29. It will be possible after all stock is sold for a person contributing to the work of bringing the mine into eventually get 2,500 shares of stock apiece.
30. The mine will not come in until eleven families can live in perfect unity and harmony.
31. The mine will not come in until 30 people meet fasting and praying for deliverance at the green spot.
32. But, when at first the mine comes in, things will have been so difficult and desperate with so much trouble between people that stockholders will wonder if it was all worth it.
33. The U.S. Government will keep propping up the economy as if it were on stilts, until finally it would suddenly collapse overnight.
34. Taxes will become oppressive and almost impossible to pay.
35. The mining industry will attempt to again become operational. but, before they get going, and the mines can do any good for the economy, the crash will come.
36. There will be a setting in order: first the mine, then the Church, then the state, then the nation. They will be brought up short like a wild colt at the snubbing post.
37. The Church is to be set in order just after an April conference.
38. The United States will experience increasing interest rates which will finally reach 20% to 24% after a period of 10% to 14%.
39. Banks will commence taking over mortgage defaults until they own many properties, helping to add to depression.
There will be plenty of money in the banks, but none to lend out.
40. There will be an overnight price crash. Wages and prices will be 20 cents on the dollar.
41. Depression will occur just before drought.
42. Depression will become so bad in the United States that service boys will be called home to keep money in the country.
43. Greenbacks will blow down the streets and will not be picked up because they will be worthless.
44. After the economic collapse, goods can be purchased for very little if a person has hard cash.
45. Gold will sell for over $100 per ounce.
46. The Church will renew persecution towards the mine. However, the mine will increase in strength and unity. Whereas, the unity and strength of the Church will decrease.
47. Troubles in the valleys for the Church will commence following the passing of the 12th president of the Church (Pres. Kimball).
48. Near the time of the end, many of the General Authorities will become quite old. Troubles will start when three leaders will die in close proximity to one another. The new replacements will not be able to hold the Church together.
49. In the end there will be a great apostasy in the Church. A rift in leadership will cause many members to leave.
Something will happen to make members congregate in and around the churches, and at various other locations to
discuss and ponder the great disturbing changes occurring. This will mark the commencement of the time of problems
for the Church, as well as the time of apostasy.
50. The Bishop told of an interview with the Prophet Joseph in Salt Lake City. The two of them were seeking out the latter general authorities. The Bishop asked Joseph what he was going to do. Joseph's answer was, "I'm going to release them, every last man-jack one of them." (A man-jack is a mule that must be castrated or cut off to remove their unreconcilable stubbornness to Godly direction.) Joseph then stated, "They had their chance and failed!"
51. At the end the church will be happy to turn the welfare program operation over to the mine to stop recriminations
against the leadership of the Church.
52. The Church will be in such a destitute financial condition that it will be happy to accept tithing from the stock-holders when the mine comes in.
53. If the stockholders do not pay tithing on their dividends, rains would come causing a landslide that would seal the mine from them.
54. The Provo steel plant will close at the time of trouble.
55. The railroad rails will be rusty when the mine comes in.
56. There will be little or no electricity. Lanterns will be back in use.
57. Streetcars and buses will no longer be running in Salt Lake City.
58. When the drought comes, one will notice dry, hot winds when the winter wheat is in the milk stage of kernel
development. The first year of drought will reduce the winter wheat crop by 25%. The second year the wheat crop will
be reduced by 50%. The third year the wheat crop will be reduced by 75%, and will not be fit for anything but cattle
feed. The mine must purchase its wheat from the second year's crop, i.e., within the year following the second year
harvest and before the third year harvest.
59. Mud will flow down the streets of Spanish Fork indicating the wickedness of the people. When groups of people start rifling the grocery stores of Spanish Fork, those stockholders living there should get out immediately and leave for the mine. Some were advised to come hiding from bush to bush along the canal bank; others elsewhere were to come the long way across the mountains to avoid pillage.
60. There should be enough unity and harmony to bring the mine in, in the second year of drought; if not, by the third year of drought. If there is not enough unity and harmony to bring it in by the third year of drought, the work will be taken away from the stockholders. Pray that the mine will come in in the second year. Otherwise, there will be extreme suffering that winter.
61. Stockholders will be tested on the low values first.
62. The rich will grow richer and the poor poorer, until many will be blue in the face with hunger when the mine comes in.
63. There will be very little gasoline. Stockholders were advised to keep their tanks filled.
64. Towards the end, stockholders will be questioned as to their part in the mine and as to what they heard was said and had seen concerning its coming in.
65. The mine will come in following an unusually hard winter. There will be heavy snows and a late wet spring. After two weeks of planting time, heavy rains will pelt the seed out of the ground. Then, hot dry winds will start to dry everything up, including the remaining plants.
66. At a stockholders' meeting at the mine, two general authorities with the police will try to lay hands on the speaker as an impostor. The general authorities will be struck dead. Stockholders rushing to their aid will be told, "Halt! Let the dead take care of the dead!"
67. The first ore will be black and will come off the top beyond No. 1 and at a grass roots level. If it is winter, it will be brought down by bobsled.
68. The news of the first shipment of ore will go unnoticed since coincidental with it will be the death of the president in office.
69. The stockholders will know by looking that the mine is being brought in properly when they see the mill dump turning black.
70. Taxes will be impossibly oppressive. But the government will collapse following the mine coming in, but before the next tax collection time. Tax is not to be taken out of the Lord's values.
71. The first dividends will be paid just before Christmas--just in time for stockholders to have a little something. It will be the fourth year of depression.
72. Foolish stockholders will buy recreational vehicles with dividend money. Wise stockholders will replace food storage before there is no more food to be had.
73. At the end the Church leaders will sit back and see what happens as the mine comes in and will not cause further trouble for stockholders. A large "snake" will come to the mine from the South.
74. Stockholders are not to hold grudges against those who have caused them trouble. Because, when the stock-holders see what happens to the persecutors, the stockholders will pray day and night for their deliverance.
75. There will be a harsh winter at the end of which the maple or oak leaves will open like a mouse's ear.
76. The harsh winter will be followed by a mild open winter.
77. A stone wall will be built along the mine side of the canal (during the mild winter).
78. The mine will become a city of refuge against roving bands.
79. Roving bands and marauders will not be a problem south of the Highline Canal.
80. The second shipment of ore, that from No. 4 finger, will be noticed when it gets into the news. People will come to the mine waving money, but there will be no stock to be sold. However, the mine will offer to feed the people.
81. Economic conditions will be so bad that people will say that the mine has come into production too late to do any good. However, that will not be the case since work will commence in numerous areas of the mine at the same time following the second batch of ore.
82. The mine will come in when the Federal Government is in disarray. Some say that the mine will come in in the late summer or fall.
83. When the mine comes in, there will be only three months to obtain needed goods from the East Coast and three more months to obtain goods from Denver (six months total). After that, trucks will not be running.
84. Foreign problems will commence.
85. The leaders of the nation will be blown out of office as if by a whirlwind. They will hide fearing for their lives.
86. When the mine comes in, mine personnel will be able to have most any Church position which they desire. Church
authorities will seek after the companionship of mine people to attend conferences with them so that the authorities
will be listened to and not rejected.
87. There will be great bitterness towards the general authorities. The leaders will have to take to the pulpits to keep people from leaving the Church.
88. The Bishop's grandson, Lynn, is to be president when the mine comes in.
89. When the mine comes in, the mountains will be covered with people looking for gold. You'll hardly be able to see the mountain for the people covering it.
90. It will be almost too late to get the grain when it is obtained.
91. The mine will also support stocking grain in Idaho.
92. A stair-step concrete grainbin will be built on the terraces provided to store wheat. Hardly will one section be
completed that it will be filled while the next section is being built.
93. The wheat to fill the bins will be bought by the mine at about 50 cents per bushel.
94. There will be a large influx of people. Tents will cover the valley. People will feel fortunate if they have a chicken coop to sleep in.
95. A white city will be built in the shape of a horseshoe around the depression.
96. Travel will be unsafe in the valley north of the mine.
97. An earthquake will open and drain the winze.
98. It will be important to purchase the coinage mint machinery being sold as surplus by the Denver mint at the end. The machinery must be brought to the mine within six months of the mine coming in. The machinery is to be set up at the mouth of Flat Canyon.
99. A clothing mill will also be established at the mouth of Flat Canyon at the end of the upper prune orchard road.
100. The mine will purchase and reopen the Provo steel plant.
101. The local militia will attempt to gain control of the mine and its people. Mine money must be used for the right
purposes or it will be taken away.
102. Some crops will again be grown the sixth year of the seven-year drought.
A statement made to a reporter of the Salt Lake city Telegram Newspaper by John Koyle:
I (Doc)found this news article interesting in as much as it was dictated by Bishop Koyle to a newspaper man, instantly recorded and then printed:

I (Koyle) was shown many wonderful changes that would take place during those days of harships, even seeing the first automobile as it came snorting down through the country. I saw these horseless carriages develop until they became as large as street cars and box cars running through the streets.

I saw mortgages increase until everyone seemed greatly hampered by debt. I also saw that at the time we got the calues on the hill, Utah Lake seemed nothing but a big pond. I saw a prolonged and terrible drouth in the country lasting for several years. I saw this depression, saw the money crash, saw the little banks going broke and the big banks filled with money; saw them stand practically worthless, refusing to lend money. The confidence of mankind seemed shattered. I saw silver lose its value and the mining industry practically at a standstill....

I saw various industries tied up until the automobiles even ceased running. Men's faces were grave and perplexed. Just as sure as Utah Lake is headed toward the condition I saw it reach, then just so sure will all the other predictions, I have made, come to pass.
(Koyle had made the comment that Utah Lake would be so low that you could wade across it on foot)

I will tell you something else that is in the future. (Koyle speaking) I saw a large banking establishment raised up in Spanish Fork by our company. I guess half the people in Spanish Fork as well as all our stockholders have heard me say this. I have given out the very corner on which it will stand.

I saw that when this bank was established people came from far and near and we were liquidating their mortgages, letting them have money at 3 or 4% or thereabouts, sending them on their way rejoicing. Isaw how happy they were toward the Relief Mine. I saw that our resources seemed unlimited, for back of us were our rich bodies of ore; and this ore, I was told, would never run out in my day or the days of my children's children.

I not only saw individuals coming for relief, but I saw us helping large business concerns, many of which seemed looking toward us for aid, thankful, indeed, when we gave them relief. I saw that there was a purpose for our getting the ore at this Relief Mine; and the doubters would soon understand, knowing something better than they do now.

I saw the devestation that would come upon the crops of the country. I saw four years of crop failures. The first one was not so very hard. I think that 1934 was the second year. Now, if you want the future, here it is: I saw the third year was almost a complete failure with prices shooting skyward on every hand. But in the fourth year the crops grew in the spring, and then they comenced to go and go and there was no harvest at all. I think that will be 1936. Then the next year because of scarcity of seed, people on every side were still in the breadlines.
(Koyle didn't know the year this would happen. He only was shown the conditions that would exist. Based on the drought conditions, the level of Utah Lake and the economic conditions, he thought the time was at hand for the mine to come in)

I have told these things in the ears of thousands of visitors to the mine. I have been telling these matters constantly for almost fourty years. So much so that 2,000 people have believed and secured stock in the Relief Mine as it is often called. College men and church men are among them, all warching and checking my various predictions, and as many statements have come true, these people have come to see our aid in a marvelous manner. I tell you it is wonderful; for our working have cost us almost a half million dollars. But our supporters will be well paid for staying with us.

When Mr. Koyle was questioned regarding how he expected to meet the food shortages he predicted, he said, "I was shown that in the fourth year of the "Great Shortage" that I went forth with plenty of money trying to buy wheat and other food, but none was to be secured. I was then shown that by storing great quantities I could give relief to the stockholders, and others as far as possible. This I shall do.

For more than two years I have had the ground all cleared, about two acres on our property, waiting to build my storehouses. I know that we shall need them in the fourth year of the crop failures, and also until we get back to normal."

As I (Koyle speaking) have repeatedly declared, everything we have accomplished and what we are now doing, were shown to me. I know that it can't be long now until our strike is made. Conditions are getting ripe. A few of our stockholders have lost heart because of the long wait, but most of them are still very confident of the outcome helping in every way possible.
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Errors in Practice and Doctrine of Catholicism

Priests Are Called 'Father'

Many Catholics call the Catholic priests "Father" and the priest accepts being called "Father", yet Jesus Christ says "9And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10Nor are you to be called 'teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ." (NIV Matthew 23:9-10). Just as we have one father of our body there is only one Father of our born-again spirit, that is God the Father.

Catholicism Denies Priesthood of All Believers

In Catholicism, there are select group of men who serve as priests but the Scriptures in 1 Peter 2:9 says "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.", thus declaring that all born-again believers in Jesus Christ are priests. In the old covenant, the Levites and Aaronites were priests but in the new covenant every believer is a priest. Thus, the Catholic Church does not recognize Biblical truth of the priesthood of all believers.

Confession to Catholic Priests

Roman Catholics confess their sins to Catholic priests. In Psalm 32:5 David confesses his sin directly to God: "Then I acknowledged my sin to you and did not cover up my iniquity. I said, "I will confess my transgressions to the LORD "— and you forgave the guilt of my sin. Selah”. In Acts 19:18 it states "Many of those who believed now came and openly confessed their evil deeds.” James 5:16 states "Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.” Thus, we may confess our sins directly to God, openly and publicly or to other believers. There is no need for Catholic priests for confession.

Priests Not Allowed to Marry

In Catholicism, priests are not allowed to marry, yet the apostle Peter was married (Matthew 8:14). Jesus does say it is better for a man not to marry but he does not make it a requirement. In Matthew 19:12, Jesus says "For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it." In 1 Corinthians 7:1-2, Paul agrees saying "1Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry. 2But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband." Perhaps if this allowance was made for the Catholic priests, there would not be such a problem with pedophilia and homosexuality among the Catholic priests.

Vain Repetition of Prayer

Many Catholics repeat prayers like the "Our Father" or "Hail Mary" when going through the rosary or as penance after confession yet Jesus Christ taught “7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.” (Matthew 6:7-8).

Bowing Down To And/Or Worshipping Statues or Images of Saints or Mary

Many Catholics bow down before a statue of a saint or Mary yet Exodus 20:4-6 gives the 2nd of the 10 commandments where God commands "4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments." Now a Catholic may say the he is not worshipping the statue or image of a saint or Mary but using it to help him focus on praying, yet even if this is the case, they are still bowing down before the image, which is expressly prohibited. Consider also that in Revelations 22-8-10 John fell down to worship at the feet of the angel and the angel told him not to do it but to worship God! Notice that it does not say that John was going to worship the angel but since he was prostrate before the angel it would give the appearance of it so the angel strictly forbid it. Apparently to the angel, bowing down before him indicated worship not of God but of him, thus what you bow down before and what you worship are deemed to be the same object. If a holy angel will not allow someone to prostrate themselves and worship before him then why do Catholics worship when they kneel before images and statues?

Praying to Deceased Saints

Many Catholics pray to deceased saints, yet Deuteronomy 18:10-12 says "10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in [a] the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD, and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you." Notice that consulting or communicating with the physically dead is prohibited along with other occultist practices such as fortune-telling, human sacrifice, casting spells and witchcraft. In modern parlance, a séance is a form of consulting the dead, where the partakers may end up communicating with a demon called a familiar spirit who can impersonate the dead. Thus, God warns us to stay away from this lest we come in contact with demons in the spirit world. One Catholic I spoke to countered that the saints are alive in heaven and not dead, yet the verse is clearly talking about the physically dead. He also argued this law was no longer valid in the new covenant. Yet if it is not applicable then neither is witchcraft nor divination prohibited and few would agree with that claim. In regard to the Mosaic Law, Jesus Christ says in Matthew 5:17-19 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Last time I checked heaven and earth were still here.

Perpetual Virginity of Mary

Catholics believe in the perpetual virginity of Mary but Matthew 1:24-25 states "When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. 25But he had no union with her until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus." Usage of the word ‘until’ indicates Joseph did have sexual union with Mary after the birth of Jesus.

Immaculate Conception of Mary

The Catholic doctrine of the Immaculate Conception declares that Mary was without original sin and was sinless in her life. On December 8, 1954, Pope Pius IX in the Constitution "Ineffabilis Deus" states "in the first instance of her conception, by a singular privilege and grace granted by God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the human race, was preserved exempt from all stain of original sin." Yet Romans 3:23 declares "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God". 1 John 1:8 states "If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us." Luke 1:46-48 states "46And Mary said: "My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has been mindful of the humble state of his servant."" So Mary herself acknowledges her need of a Savior.

Mary Revered As Queen of Heaven

Catholics revere Mary as the Queen of Heaven. But Queen of Heaven is the title of the Egyptian goddess Isis whom the Israelites worshipped and thus provoked God to anger (Jeremiah 7:17-18). The pagan practice of goddess worship has its roots in Semiramis, the wife and mother of Nimrod, who was regarded as king and God and their son Tammuz. From here we have the Egyptian deities of Osiris/Isis/Horus, as well as Baal and Ashtoreth and pagan deities of the Greeks and Romans. Catholicism has given Mary many attributes such as perpetual virgin, mother of god, mother of all, glorious assumption that make her like unto the pagan goddesses. God says He will not give His glory to another (Isaiah 42:8). Has Catholicism robbed God of His glory in elevating Mary? It seems that when Emperor Constantine declared Christianity to be the state religion, the compromises to accommodate the pagans resulted in the paganization of Catholicism.

Mary as Co-Redeemer

Catholicism considers Mary to be co-redeemer with Christ. Yet John 14:6 states "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."". Acts 4:12 referring to Jesus declares "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved." No one can come to God through Mary or be saved through Mary.

Veneration or Worship of Mary as' Mother of God'

Jesus Christ, being fully God and omniscient, knew man's proclivity to idolize, thus, he warned not give a higher status to Mary than that of a servant of God. Luke 11:27-28 states "27As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, "Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you." 28He replied, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it."" Thus, Jesus is saying there is no blessing in having birthed him or nursed him but in doing the will of God. Mary is not accorded any blessing beyond one who does the will of God. Matthew 12:46-50 reads "46While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47Someone told him, "Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you." 48He replied to him, "Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?" 49Pointing to his disciples, he said, "Here are my mother and my brothers. 50For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."" Here Jesus repudiates any relationship based on being blood relatives, that is his mother and brothers, but affirms his spiritual relationship with those born of the Spirit of God. How can Catholics say Mary is the Mother of God, when Jesus repudiates that claim? Remember that he said "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born again.' ". Jesus consistently refuses to give Mary any special recognition for having giving birth to him or having nursed him, just as he does not give special recognition to his brothers. Catholics say Jesus always does what Mary asks of him, denying Jesus' sovereignty as God. But look at how Jesus responds to Mary at the wedding in Cana in Galilee. John 2:3-5 reads "3When the wine was gone, Jesus' mother said to him, "They have no more wine." 4"Dear woman, why do you involve me?" Jesus replied, "My time has not yet come." 5His mother said to the servants, "Do whatever he tells you."" Notice that Jesus does not call her 'mother' but 'dear woman'. Also notice that he seems to rebuke her for involving him! From this we see that Jesus sees Mary as an esteemed servant of the Lord but is not subservient to her.

Jesus Christ is the One and Only Mediator, Not Saints Nor Mary

Many Catholics pray to saints as mediators or intercessors on their behalf before God. Yet in Scripture I do not see one example of a believer praying to deceased saints. I asked one Catholic why she prayed to saints instead of directly to God the Father or Jesus Christ and she responded that she felt ashamed coming before God. Yet 1 John 1:9 states "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.” If we are forgiven then we are reconciled to God and there is no need to be ashamed. Ephesians 3:12 in regards to Jesus states "In him and through faith in him we may approach God with freedom and confidence.” 1 Timothy 2:5 states "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,” So if you are in need of a mediator, ask the Lord Jesus Christ to intercede on your behalf before God the Father, for he is the one and only mediator, not saints nor Mary. One Catholic expressed that she felt the saints could relate better to her sufferings and temptations but Hebrews 4:15-16 states concerning Jesus Christ "For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin.16Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need." Since Jesus was tempted and suffered, he can sympathize with us, but he is superior to the saints in that he did not sin. Hebrews 7:24-26 states "24but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood. 25Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them. 26Such a high priest meets our need—one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens.” Jesus is calling you: "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30For my yoke is easy and my burden is light." (Matthew 11:28-30). Why not go to the Lord Jesus Christ, the one and only mediator between God and man, the author and perfecter of the faith and the holy high priest that always lives to intercede for you at the right hand of the Father?

Salvation Through Grace By Faith Not By Works

Many Catholics believe they will go to heaven because they have been good. Yet Ephesians 2:8-9 states "8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast." 2 Timothy 1:8-9 states "8So do not be ashamed to testify about our Lord, or ashamed of me his prisoner. But join with me in suffering for the gospel, by the power of God, 9who has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace." Because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, we are saved by faith in Christ Jesus through his blood to do good works and do the will of the Father. A genuine faith in God will engender good deeds. James 2:14-26 declares "What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? 15Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. 16If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? 17In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead. 18But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds." Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do. 19You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder. 20You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? 21Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend. 24You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone. 25In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead."

Infallibility of Popes and Councils

In the First Vatican Council of 1870, the doctrine of papal infallibility was established. Papal infallibility means that the Pope is infallible when he speaks "ex cathedra" (in the chair of Peter) on matters of faith and morals. The Catholic Councils are also considered infallible in their edicts. In Matthew 24:24 2 Jesus warns us "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible.” Peter 2:1 states “But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.” 1 John 4:1 states "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” Thus, because there will be false teachers among us we are to test the spirits even of a Pope or Catholic Council and we must not blindly follow them. So what can we put our confidence in? In Matthew 5:18 Jesus states "I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." In Matthew 24:35 Jesus says "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.” 2 Timothy 3:16 states "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness". Therefore, let us follow the word of God and test everything else against it.

When Tradition Violates God's Word

The Roman Catholic Church holds Tradition in high regard. Yet in Matthew 15:3-9, Jesus Christ says "3Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.' 5But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, 'Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,' 6he is not to 'honor his father' with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: 8" 'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. 9They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.'". The Lord Jesus Christ detests when the traditions of men nullify the commands of God, yet this is exactly what the Catholic Church does when it allows priests to be called 'Father' and allows the laity to communicate with deceased saints.

Inquisitions and Crusades

The Papal and Spanish Inquisitions murdered many thousands of people for their differing beliefs, often burning them at the stake and confiscating their property. Many confessions were gathered through the use of torture. When Jesus casts out the demons from the demon-possessed man in Gadarenes into the swine who end up drowning, the people plead with Jesus to leave their region. Jesus does not order to be killed for not believing in him but leaves as requested (Matthew 8:28-34). People's faith will be judged on the Day of Judgment (Matthew 11:20-24). Even Paul says "Not that we lord it over your faith, but we work with you for your joy, because it is by faith you stand firm." (2 Corinthians 1:24). Jesus Christ preached repentance, baptism and kingdom of heaven and did not take up the sword. The apostles of the Lord followed his example. The Roman Catholic Church through its inquisitions and crusades has killed Lutherans, Calvinists, Protestants, Jews, Moslems and many more. Thus, the blood of many people is on the hands of the Catholic Church.

Infant Baptism

Catholics baptize infants. Yet Acts 2:38 reads "Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." It says to repent and then be baptized, but how can an infant repent if he is not of age to understand the difference between right and wrong nor does he understand his sinfulness and need of salvation? Every baptism in Scripture, from John's baptisms to Ethiopian eunuchs was always preceded by repentance since it was a prerequisite for baptism. Nowhere in Scripture do you find an infant being baptized!

Purgatory

The Catholic doctrine of purgatory is that when someone dies who has eternal salvation they undergo a purification to achieve the holiness required of heaven. This purification is seen as going through a purging fire and thus includes suffering. This doctrine cannot be proved through the Scriptures. For instance, in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man, Lazarus is seen at the bosom of Abraham comforted, not undergoing any painful purification in purgatory.

Indulgences

In Catholic doctrine, even after a person confessed their sin, there was still a temporal punishment that needed to be paid in this life or in purgatory. An indulgence was a credit towards the payment of this temporal punishment. It's important to note that indulgences were not for salvation. At one point the Catholic Church sold indulgences, a practice later prohibited by the Catholic Church. What is clear from Scripture is that after a man dies, it is God who judges him, not the church.



Transubstantiation

According to Catholic doctrine, when the priest is performing the Eucharist, the wafer becomes the actual body of Christ and the wine becomes the actual blood of Christ. So when a Catholic takes the Eucharist, according to Catholic doctrine, they are eating human flesh and thus being a cannibal and drinking blood which is forbidden (Leviticus 17:10). In Matthew 26:26-27 reads "26While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body." 27Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 28This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.” So is Jesus asking us to be cannibals and drink blood against God's commands? Of course not! Eating human flesh and the vampiristic drinking of blood are high level occultist practices that Jesus would not command us to partake of. Therefore, if Jesus is not speaking literally then he is speaking symbolically or figuratively. Indeed, the Passover meal was a remembrance of when God delivered the Israelites from Egypt. Now Jesus is adding a new remembrance of himself as the Passover Lamb which is sacrificed for the remission of sins so that God's people can enter into to the kingdom of heaven.

Pedophilia and Homosexuality in Priesthood And Cover-up

When Catholic priests were accused of molesting young children, usually boys, often the cases were not properly handled. Instead of investigating the case, putting the priest on leave of absence, calling the police to investigate and defrocking the priest if the allegations proved true, the accused priest was transferred to a different parish where the unsuspecting laity could once again be violated. Why were the guilty pedophile and homosexual priests not removed from their post? Why did the higher ups transfer these guilty priests to other parishes? Why haven't the bishops and cardinals who covered up the incidents not been removed from office and disciplined? Can you remain in a church where the pastors abuse the sheep they are supposed to be tending?

Repentance, Forgiveness and Bible Believing Fellowship

If you are a Catholic and now see the errors in practice and doctrine of Catholicism, then confess and repent of your sins. Know that once you confess your sins God is faithful and just to forgive them. Then look for a Christian fellowship where the word of God is preached and practiced.
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Re: Fulfilled Prophecy 4 My FRIENDS [March 2011 Update] Jesus Christ is Lord !!!
Rebuke of the Organized Church

Satan is a master deceiver and he's done a great job on the institutional, organized, corporate church. The organized church willingly celebrates Christmas as the birthday of Yahshua ha Maschiach when Christmas is based on the pagan Saturnalia and Yule which celebrates the birth day of the sun god, Sol Invictus at the winter solistice when sun becomes weak/dies and then start to gather strength as it is reborn. The organized church fails to heed Jeremiah 10:2 which warns us not to follow the way of the pagans/heathen. The organized church also celebrates Easter named after a pagan fertility goddess and how she went to the underworld to have her lover Tammuz "resurrected" or brought back to life, rather than celebrating Passover as Yahshua and the apostles did on Aviv 14, commemorating Yahshua as the Passover lamb of God. They keep the Good Friday lie that says Yahshua was crucified on Friday. But if he was crucified on Friday and was raised 3 days later then he was raised on Monday, how is it Mary Magdalene had already seen the empty tomb on early Sunday morning? No one can answer this yet they keep with their lies, keeping man's tradition rather than Yahweh's word. Yahshua was crucified on the Passover, a Wednesday around 3PM and raised on Saturday around 3PM. The day after the Passover was a the first day of Unleavened Bread which is a high Sabbath, not a weekly Friday Sabbath. So Resurrection Sunday celebrations are another lie of the organized church. Then you have those churches which have costume parties for Halloween. Halloween is based on the Druid Samhain festival. Once again, the church fails to heed Jeremiah 10:2. Then you have birthday celebrations which in the Satanic Bible are high holy days and St. Valentine's day which far from celebrating a martyr, is based on the pagan Lupercalia festival. So where is the discernment in the church? Where is the Holy Spirit who will lead us into all truth?

Jeremiah 10:2 (King James Version)
2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

So why is the organized church so utterly blind to what is obvious? One can say it is because of ignorance on their part; they simply do not know any better. But if it is simple ignorance then why have all 4 churches I have approached on this matter utterly ignored the warning I gave them, or told me to be silent on such matters or called me "divisive" based on Titus 3:10. None have heeded the warning and therefore all the sins of the people they shepherd who would have been warned, and all the harm that could have been prevented will be on the shepherds heads for they have muzzled the apostles, the prophets and the watchmen when they themselves are under the authority of the apostles and the prophets. They have failed to honor Yahweh's government and they will be held accountable for this, just as the watchman is held accountable if he does not warn. The pastors presume they are accountable to the senior pastor and the senior pastor to a board of elders but where are the apostles and the prophets? They are utterly missing from these non-profit corporations. Yahshua's church is built on the foundation of the apostles and the prophets yet these churches not only do not have apostles or prophets, when the apostles and prophets do come to them, the pastors muzzle them and do not let them warn, teach and prophesy. So these churches are not built on Yahweh's foundation! So why are you in them if they will not heed Yahweh? Will you serve man or serve Yahweh?

Ephesians 2:19-21 (King James Version)
19Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

These organized churches are sleeping in bed with the government, prostituting themselves like the churches in Nazi Germany where the government paid the salaries of the clergy so that the clergy honored the government and not Yahweh. But you say that the church does not get money from the government. Not true! About 26,000 pastors have signed up with the government and get money to tell the people to obey the government and go to FEMA concentration camps or get deadly flu shots when the next major disaster hits. Those churches incorporated as 503(C1) non-profit organizations have pledged to not be involved in politics in order that contributions can be tax deductible and salaries can be tax exempt. Hasn't the church always been a counterweight to corrupt government? So why do these organized churches silence themselves on matters of government? When did Yahweh ever command them to give up their voice against injustice and corruption for tax benefits? Did not Nathan the prophet approach David and rebuke him for killing a man unjustly? Can you imagine the prophet Nathan refusing to rebuke the king because his ministry was incorporated as a non-profit organization and he didn't want to lose tax benefits? Yet that is what the organized church does!

And where is the discernment in the church when they allow wicked men like Westcott and Hort, spiritualists who communicated with the dead, to replace the Textus Receptus or Received Texts that comprise about 90% of all New Testament documents we have with corrupt and incomplete Alexandrian based texts that have altered the Word of Yahweh. Almost all modern bibles except the King James, New King James and maybe another have the New Testament based on the corrupt and incomplete Westcott and Hort texts. Dr. Richard Day, president of Planned Parenthood, a eugenics/population control group confessed in 1969 that they had changed a few words in the Bible to change it's meaning. Now let me show you how modern Bibles have made Yahshua a sinner by omitting one word and have allowed pastors to ignore apostles, prophets and watchmen by simply changing another.

Matthew 5:22 (New International Version)
22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother[a]will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.

Matthew 5:22 (King James Version)
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

The New International Version based on the Westcott and Hort New Testament texts has anyone angry with his brother as being subject to judgment. Based on this when Yahushua was angry and stormed the money-changer's tables in the temple, he sinned because he was angry. While if we look at the King James version based on the Textus Receptus it says that those who are angry WITHOUT CAUSE are subject to judgment. Yahshua was angry with the money changers because they made His Father's house into a den of theives when it was supposed to be a house for prayer, therefore, Yahushua had cause to be angry and did not sin and is still the spotless Lamb of God. So just by omitting two words from modern Bibles Yahushuah is made a sinner.

Titus 3:10 (New International Version)
Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him.

Titus 3:10 (King James Version)
A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

The wicked one has changed the Word of Yahweh in modern Bibles. Do you see how the word "heretick" in the KJV meaning one who espouses false doctrine has been changed to "divisive" in the NIV which means one who causes division through disagreement. So when the apostles, prophets and watchmen come to correct the pastors, the pastors simply say 'these men disagree with me and are being divisive, I've warned them once and now twice, don't have anything to do with them'. And the pastors never have to answer for their errors. I know this happens because it happened to me. Do you see how deceitful Satan is when he has just one word changed in the Bible and thus empowers the pastors to disregard the apostles, prophets and watchmen who would correct him. Thus by this clever mechanism Yahweh's church government is over-ridden where the apostles and prophets are no longer over the pastors.

But the deception of the organized church does not end there. It teaches that "once saved, always saved" contradicting Yahshuah himself who said "22And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." (Matthew 10:22) and " 21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 7:21). Once saved, always saved or the eternal security doctrine is a heresy. You've been bought at a price so do not take sin or your salvation lightly. Yes, we are saved by grace and not by works although remember, faith without works is dead. And yes, no one can take us out of our Father's hand and Yahweh is not an Indian giver but we are free to give back the gift he so graciously gave us. Please consider the scriptures below.

"But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway." - 1 Corinthians 9:27
"If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus. Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus." - Philippians 3:11-14
"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." - Matthew 10:22
"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." - Matthew 24:13
"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." - Mark 13:13
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." - Matthew 7:21
"Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed." - John 8:31
"Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him." - James 1:12
"For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them." - 2 Peter 2:20-21
"And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again." - Romans 11:17-23

The organized church has also forgotten the name of Elohim which is YHVH. In modern Bibles, the name of YHVH has been replaced with LORD which is not His name but rather a generic title. The Jews out of fear of misusing Yahweh's name stopped saying or writing it. The Christians might have picked up this habit. But Yahweh says "do not take my name in vain". He does not say we can not speak it or write it. We actually no longer know what exactly are the vowels in between the consonants of YHVH. His actual name may be YaHuVeH or YaHWeH, we really don't know. I tend to use Yahweh as His name. One thing is for sure, it's not Jehovah since the letter J didn't come into use until about the 16th century. When Scripture says to call on His name, we are to call on the name of Yahweh, not "LORD", which is not His name. The organized church has also forgotten the name of the Savior which is Yahushua or Yahshua, not Jesus. In Hebrew names it was common to add "el" for elohim or "yah" for Yahweh to show one's association with the true God. The Greeks also similarly often have "sus" added to names, to show their association with their top god Zeus. So when you use the Greek name Jesus for Yahshuah you are associating the King of Kings and Lord of Lords with a pagan deity who was head of the Greek pantheon of pagan gods. Do you think Yahweh is pleased with this? Now, I've cast out evil spirits in the authority and name of Jesus Christ and believe Yahshua honored it because of the intention despite my ignorance. But once we know better shouldn't we do better? So I avoid using Jesus to refer to Yahshua as Yahshua using His Hebrew name.

The organized church has also fallen into the sin of disunity and denominationalism. There is one church, one faith, one Holy Spirit and one author of our faith, so why do some say I am of Paul and others say I am of Apollo, some say I am Methodist, others say Presbyterian and so forth. There is simply the church of Yahweh. In Scripture the only other distinction is to say the church of Elohim at Ephesus or Corinth or that meets at this house to distinguish by city or location. This does not imply division but rather distinguishes a part of the church that meets at a location. To imply division of the church of Yahshuah is sin.

Ephesians 4:4-6 (King James Version)
4There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

1 Corinthians 1:11-13 (King James Version)
11For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
12Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

The organized church has also fallen into another deception of Satan by changing the Sabbath from it's true time of Friday sunset to Saturday sunset to Sunday. The sun-worshipper Emperor Constantine issued his edict that work should not be done on "the venerable day of the sun", which is Sunday. Next, the Roman Catholic Church said people should not be Judaizers by resting from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset and those who did were persecuted. Even the Roman Catholic Church agrees that nowhere in the Bible can you find the Sabbath, the day of rest and holy gathering, being changed to Sunday. But rather, the Roman Catholic Church says it changed the word of Yahweh based on it's authority to do so and that Protestant churches are it's daughters since they also honor the Catholic Church's authority to do so. But no one has the authority to change the word of Yahweh, not emperor Constantine and not the Roman Catholic Church. So now Catholics and Protestants worship on the same weekly day as the sun-worshipping pagans and think nothing of it, even as they violate the command in Jeremiah 10:2 to not follow the way of the heathen. The early church in Asia Minor where John the Apostle lived kept the true Sabbath. Why wouldn't you do likewise?

Exodus 20:8-11 (King James Version)
8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Deuteronomy 4:2
Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Revelation 22:18-19 (King James Version)
18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

But not only has the organized church forgotten the Sabbath, but also the festivals and appointed times of Yahweh. The spring feasts and appointed times are the Passover, Festival of Unleavened Bread, First Fruits and Pentecost while the fall feasts and appointed times are Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement and the Festival of Tabernacles. The spring feasts are reflective of Yahshua's first coming since he was crucified on the Passover as our Passover Lamb, the spotless Lamb of God, was raised three days later on First Fruits since he is the first fruit of the resurrection and the Holy Spirit came upon Yahweh's people on Pentecost. The fall feasts and appointed times are reflective of Yahsuah's second coming. Yahshua will return to gather His elect to fulfill the Feast of Trumpets, judge and cleanse His people to fulfill the Day of Atonement and establish His kingdom on earth to fulfill Feast of Tabernacles. But the organized church has forgotten the Passover which remembers Yahshua's sacrifice and traded it in for Easter which has it's pagan origins in the celebration of the resurrection of Tammuz. Polycarp, disciple of the apostle John, warned the early Roman church not to change the day of Passover's celebration from the 14th of Aviv, but the Roman bishop would not listen citing tradition. Today, the organized church does not celebrate any of Yahweh's festivals or appointed times (except maybe Passover in some churches), but rather now celebrates two or three of the seven neo-pagan Wicca Sabbats, namely Easter, Saturnalia (from which we get Christmas) and Halloween. Peter, John, James and Paul would not recognize todays organized church as being of Yahweh but rather would see that it has become Mystery Babylonian!

But the deceptions foisted on the organized church do not end there! Most of the world wide church has historically never believed in a pre-tribulation rapture but the American church has been deceived by such men as Darby and Scofield that the rapture where the saints are caught up to meet Yahshuah in the clouds happens BEFORE the 7 year Tribulation period. Those people who believe this lie are prone to taking the mark of the beast because they believe that they will be raptured before the Tribulation and therefore will never face the mark of the beast which happens during the Tribulation. Aaron Russo related that Nick Rockefeller related to him that the Illuminati's goal was to have everyone chipped. I believe this RFID computer chip which will be placed on the right hand (which happens to be the area of the body with the highest tempurature flux from which the chip can derive it's power) or forehead is the mark of the beast. The scriptures relate that the rapture happens at the last trump (1 Corinthians 15:51-52) yet in Revelations we find that at seventh and last trump Yahshuah establishes His kingdom on earth. How can the seventh and last trump be blown before the tribulation when that's when Yahshua establishes His kingdom on earth? Impossible! Therefore, the rapture does not happen before the tribulation but rather as Yahshua himself said "after the tribulation" He will have His angel gather up His elect from the four winds.

Rockefeller Reveals 9/11 FRAUD to Aaron Russo
[link to www.youtube.com]

1 Corinthians 15:51-52 (King James Version)
51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Revelation 11:15 (King James Version)
15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Matthew 24:29-31 (King James Version)
29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

So how is Yahweh supposed to use a church that is divided, deeply into paganism, has changed His Word, no longer keeps His commands and is so deeply deceived by Satan? He can't!! Therefore, the prophet Thomas S. Gibson tells us that Yahweh will separate the sheep from the goats in the organized church. Prophet Tom Deckard tells us he has been commanded by Yahweh through an angel to call Ephraim back home to Israel and this is going to happen soon before the US get's the worst of the judgments. Some believe that the lost ten tribes of Israel went through Turkey, then the Caucasus mountains and settled in Europe with Manaseh settling in Great Britain and Ephraim migrating from Great Britain to the USA. And that as prophesied Ephraim (the USA) would be greater than Manaseh (Great Britian) though both would be great nations. It seems that nations where Ephraim and Manaseh settled in like Grreat Britain, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand are coming under totalitarian rule, police state laws and financial collapse. This maybe Yahweh's judgement on Ephraim and Manaseh for abandoning His ordinances and going into idolatry, just as they did under Jereboam before they were conquered by the Assyrians. Yahweh is doing this I believe to also bring back the lost ten tribes back to Israel to join Judah as prophesied in Jeremiah 50. Jeremiah 50 speaks about how Babylon America will be attacked by Russia from the north and other countries and take a great fall, how the house of Israel will join with the house of Judah and go back to the land of Israel from Babylon America and other countries and how Israel has been led astray by it's shepherds and sinned by departing from Yahweh's law. Revelation 18 also speaks of the judgment that will befall Babylon America and how we are to come out of Babylon and the mystery Babylon church system so that we do not partake in it's sins or judgments.

Thomas S. Gibson prophecy
2000 06 07.1
"For thus saith the Lord. Times and seasons are at hand when I must separate My people from the organized religions to which they belong. For they have become entangled in the works of the flesh, and in works of pride, and in works of mighty deeds of men; and they have forgotten the mighty deeds of their Lord.
Be a participant in the separation of the sheep and the goats. For My sheep have been mixed in with the goats of this earth in various religious forms which are not of Me.
It is My will and it is My desire that a true church, of which some exist, must be raised up in every city, in every town, and in every village so that there is a sign to the world of a true church openly serving Me in the full power and strength of the Spirit of God.
This is My desire. For they and they alone can be a true witness unto the earth."

Thomas S. Gibson prophecy:
2000 12 02.4
"Thus says the Lord, repent and listen to the word of God. Note that there shall be persecutions arising in all places, throughout the United States and Canada, and through Europe these nations shall rise up in persecutions against My people. It shall purge the church. Those of Mine, that are truly Mine, who walk in the power and are committed to Me, they shall stand in this persecution no matter what it brings.
But listen to Me, and heed Me. For thus saith the Lord, I am God, and I am allowing this, for it shall purge My church. For there are many that shall quickly deny Me, shall quickly deny the truth, quickly revert to a world religion, shall quickly deny the power of the Word; they deny the truth of the Word. They shall quickly deny many things, and they shall become politically correct for the day and the age that they live. For they do not want to be in persecutions and they do not want to stand against the world—they love the world, and they are part of the world, and they were never part of Me. But they have a form of Godliness in the church, and they were in the church shining as christians and looking as christians in the outward appearance, but in their heart they were not of Me.
This shall purge the church and bring it to pass that I have said, I will split the sheep from the goats, that is My people from the world."

Jeremiah 50:1-10 (King James Version)
1The word that the LORD spake against Babylon and against the land of the Chaldeans by Jeremiah the prophet.
2Declare ye among the nations, and publish, and set up a standard; publish, and conceal not: say, Babylon is taken, Bel is confounded, Merodach is broken in pieces; her idols are confounded, her images are broken in pieces.
3For out of the north there cometh up a nation against her, which shall make her land desolate, and none shall dwell therein: they shall remove, they shall depart, both man and beast.
4In those days, and in that time, saith the LORD, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek the LORD their God.
5They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the LORD in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten.
6My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace.
7All that found them have devoured them: and their adversaries said, We offend not, because they have sinned against the LORD, the habitation of justice, even the LORD, the hope of their fathers.
8Remove out of the midst of Babylon, and go forth out of the land of the Chaldeans, and be as the he goats before the flocks.
9For, lo, I will raise and cause to come up against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country: and they shall set themselves in array against her; from thence she shall be taken: their arrows shall be as of a mighty expert man; none shall return in vain.
10And Chaldea shall be a spoil: all that spoil her shall be satisfied, saith the LORD.

Revelation 18:3-5 (King James Version)
3For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

The church could learn so much if it would only listen and heed the prophets. Consider the Thomas S. Gibson prophecy that says that Canada will be given over to the USA and no longer exist as an independent country. How will this happen? Remember the leak from the March 2008 secret US House of Representatives meeting that said that the economy would collapse in late 2008, the government would have financial problems by mid 2009, dollar would collapse, new currency would be issued for Canada, US and Mexico with the reason being given that we need to form a North American Union since we would be aided by the rich natural resources of Canada and cheap labor of Mexico. That is how I suspect it will happen. The goal of the Illuminati is world government with the antichrist as god and king. As a step towards that they hope to form out of 198 nations, 10 supranational unions listed below
1. European Union
2. North American Union
3. South American Union
4. African Union
5. Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC)
6. Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN)
7. South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC)
8. Pacific Union
9. Russia and satelites
10. China
Why ten unions? Atlantis had ten regions according to Plato. And according to Illuminati lore Atlantis was a very advanced civilization until the Enemy (that would be Yahweh) sent a prophet to warn them of their destruction (because of their evil ways and probably Satan worship). The Atlanteans hated the prophet and kill him and Atlantis was destroyed according to the word of the prophet. Satan is try to raise up Atlantis again. We can already see the World Health Organization stepping for global health and the IMF as the world central bank and the Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) as the coming global currency.

Thomas S. Gibson prophecy:
1994 10 05.1
"This is the word of the Lord concerning Canada.
I have dealt with this nation for far too long. I have been patient with it to repent of all her actions against My will. For far too long I have turned My will to hold back judgment on this country. It is no longer possible that I will hold back My desire to scourge and punish this nation for its evil and its desire to go its own way.
This nation has developed its system of evil with no desire to repent or turn from their sin. It is a rare thing to find a people in this country who are committed to the work of the Lord or even someone who will stop and listen to the Lord and what He has to say. All I ask is that you stop and listen to what I have to say, and then do it!! All I wish for is a people who will do as I ask. I have your best interest at heart, not your worst! I desire to bless you, not curse. I do not know any evil in My ways! I will not turn you to some way which is not right or not in keeping of My promises in My Word. I keep My promises that I have stated in My Word. I will never let them become unfulfilled! I said I died for your sins, and I did! I said I took the stripes for your sickness and I did! I will not turn any of My promises to no effect!
Now! Now! Now! Turn from your ways to My ways, says the Lord. I know what is best for you and what you need before you know or can ask for it! I will never let you slip into a place of not having your needs met! This is the way it should be. But as long as you will not listen to My Word, and not obey it when you hear it, I will not, not, not bless you in your sin!! Now is the time to repent, and I will bless you in the midst of the judgment that I will pronounce on this country.
This country of late has had severe financial problems. People have turned to this solution, to that solution, and to other solutions, without any success.
At first there will be some success in converting the enormous debt of this nation—to reducing it somewhat. But I will not let this happen to any length. This country will go down in a sea of debt! No longer does this nation have My blessing! I will not bless it in its iniquity!
So, let Me lead those who will follow Me, to a new understanding of what it means to belong to Christ. I am sending a great persecution on My church. It will come because I will stop holding back the demons who have long, very long, desired to destroy this My people. In this time you will be given a great anointing to withstand this evil. This great anointing is already coming and in some ways is beginning to trickle to the body of believers that I have, but they have not been aware of it, because they have been to much in the flesh, and not in the Spirit!
Those who will spend the time to walk in the Spirit, by fasting and praying before Me on a consistent basis, WILL learn to walk in the Spirit. Those who will not learn to fast and pray will have EXTREME trouble when this persecution comes. Sad to say that most of My church will be the ones that do not fast and pray, but have trouble in times of persecution!
Now, this will all be, but I do not desire that anyone should be left out of the fold of God! Those who are left out of the fold of God, do so of their own selfish will! Those who leave the church—the holy church, the ones who are doing the will of the Lord—will be lost because of their own selfishness and corruption of the worldly system! It is not My will for this to happen, but it is My will for them to be saved even as those who are in the Spirit are saved! But alas, it shall not be, because they have not chosen a wise way, but a selfish way!
So, therefore I shall turn My back on this country of Canada and I shall bury it in a sea of mire, of iniquity debt, evil corruption in high places; and eventually to its total destruction. For I shall remove this country of even being in existence. So I have said it, so I shall do it. This nation shall not exist any more!
Now shall I give this nation to the ones who at least in part will hold to some of My will, to a few of My ways, to a some degree a holiness in the church, that is, to the nations of the United States of America. Not only will I give this nation to the U. S., but I will turn every way to see that it is destroyed in a manner that is well pleasing to its evil neighbour who desire its destruction!
So you see that in this way this nation shall be judged in a complete and total manner. Now, do not become an evil desire in this nation, but a holy one to the Lord. For I will do this:
1. I will turn My heart and My blessings to those who will turn completely to My will!
2. I will submit to their holy desires that they will have, for I will give you the desire of your hearts!
3. I will never again place you in a place where you will have to go and serve another king besides the one that is in control of all things. I am The King!!! I will turn all things to the Lord.
There is coming a time when no one will be able to say there is evil amongst us. No one will say that, because there is coming a time when no evil will be on this world and its system, which I created. Remember I created this world to be holy and perfect! I will not fail in this!! There will be a time of a new earth and a new heaven, a time of perfection!!"

If the church listened to the prophets it would know based on the prophecies of E. R. Lindsey that exactly one year before the great California earthquakes where everything west of the San Andreas fault falls into the ocean, there will be three simultaneous signs of 1) a very great Australian earthquake, 2) a Mediterranean volcano erupting causing huge tidal waves and 3) an earthquake in California where the walls of the city halls of Los Angeles and San Francisco crack. That this great California earthquake would cause tsunamis world-wide. That after the great California earthquake the Communist nations would see America weak and attack. That one-third of the world poplulation would die as a result of the earthquakes, tsunamis and war and it's aftermath. That after the war the two witness which are the true church and man-child would preach for the first 3.5 years of the Tribulation and after the 3.5 years would be killed in the great city because they will not take the mark of the beast. That the antichrist is from Syria.


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Excerpt of E. R. Lindsey prophecies:

"In the day of Noah, God's warning was heard, but the people refused to heed the message. Likewise in this day God is warning his people through these visions and revelations, the clearest warning of all will come exactly one year before the greatest disaster of modern times strikes the earth.

This prophetic warning will come in the form of three signs. These three events will occur in different parts of the world at the same time: Australia will experience its greatest earthquake. A volcano will erupt in the Mediterranean Sea, resulting in a huge tidal wave. A minor earthquake will occur in California causing only negligible damage, but it will crack walls in both the city halls of Los Angeles and San Francisco. Exactly one year from the simultaneous occurrence of these three events, a great convulsion will shake the whole earth. In California, the San Andreas fault will split and the land west of it will sink into the ocean. This will create 150 feet tidal waves which will encircle the world, inundating most coastal cities of the earth. Huge cracks will appear in the ground. Many volcanoes will erupt. The whole earth will shake. Believing that the United States is helpless to defend herself, the Communist Block will launch their atomic rockets upon the free world. The attack will last for three and one half days.

The combination of these territying events will annihilate a third part of the human race, as well as a third part of all that grows. (Rev: 8:7-12)

In the after math of this calamity, out of Syria will come a man with a plan of peace, which the whole world will accept and total peace will reign for three and one half years, with undreamed of progress being made in the greatest reconstruction program ever undertaken by the human race.

A relatively small group of faithful followers of Jesus Christ have come through all these calamities unharmed, for the protecting hand of Almighty God was upon them. Now they are free to proclaim the message of the Kingdom with great power and anointing with no interference. (Rev. 9:4: Ez. 9)

At the conclusion of these three and one half years, this man of Syria who is really the "Man of Sin", the "Anti - Christ" will impose Martial Law upon all nations. The identification mark, No. 666 will be required of every man before they will be permitted to buy or trade. (Rev. 13) This, of course, will bring into clear focus this small group of faithful servants of Jesus Christ, numbering one gross thousand, who are proclaiming the message of the Kingdom. They will refuse to take the mark of the AntiChrist and therefore will not be allowed to buy or sell.

But God wil do with them as He did with the children of Israel in the desert. Heavenly Manna will feed them. Eventually, all who refuse to accept the mark will be persecuted. Many will die, others will flee to the wilderness and seek refuge with the company of the True Church, where she has been established by obeying the warnings and signs prior to the great disaster. Here she abides secure under the shadow of the Almighty. (Rev. 12)

The Man of Sin, will declare all out war upon these two groups, the Man child group of the one gross thousand and the True Church in the Wilderness. These two "witnesses" will be slain and left lying in the streets for thre days, after which time the Spirit of God will enter into their bodies, and raise them up into IMMORTAL CREATURES of God's Kingdom.

Because of this resurrection miracle, millions will obey the message of the Kingdom. (Rev. 11)

At the conclusion of another three and one half years, Jesus Christ will personally return to this Earth to sit upon His rightful throne as King of Kings, and LORD of Lords. The dead in Christ will be resurrected and those who are awaiting His coming will be caught up to meet Christ in the air. (Rev. 19)

The forces of Antichrist will be chained and helpless while God's faithful witnesses will help restore the earth to its Eden like paradise, as God originally intended it to be.(Rev. 20)

Amos 3:7 Surely the LORD God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

2Ch 20:20 .....Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper."
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religions and wars go together like peas in pods. Can't have one without the other. No peace, Im afraid.

Human nature is at war with itself.

Many people are selfish... that is where it starts.

Someone thinks, "I want what you have."

It is not 'religion' it is SIN that causes the havoc.


You are right.
Human nature is at war with itself,
and seems doomed to continue the cycle generation
after generation, as it has in the past.

I pray for the betterment of man.

When we align ourselves with God,
we align ourselves with love. When we don't, sin is the result.
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+1 hf
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Prophet Tom Deckard is a major prophet of God to the nations. Through his anointing he is able to heal people, none of his prophecies have fallen to the ground, and he's restoring the church to what it should be and will be leading Ephraim (10 lost tribes) back to the land of Israel.
You can check him out at www.jewishprophet.com at hear his blogspot radio program on Mon, Tue, Wed and Fri.

Once4All, what are your thoughts regarding Prophet Tom Deckard?
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religions and wars go together like peas in pods. Can't have one without the other. No peace, Im afraid.

Human nature is at war with itself.

Many people are selfish... that is where it starts.

Someone thinks, "I want what you have."

It is not 'religion' it is SIN that causes the havoc.


You are right.
Human nature is at war with itself,
and seems doomed to continue the cycle generation
after generation, as it has in the past.

I pray for the betterment of man.

When we align ourselves with God,
we align ourselves with love. When we don't, sin is the result.


+1 hf
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He who sins is a slave to it. Only Jesus can provide the strength and energy to overcome what had you bound.
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Prophet Tom Deckard is a major prophet of God to the nations. Through his anointing he is able to heal people, none of his prophecies have fallen to the ground, and he's restoring the church to what it should be and will be leading Ephraim (10 lost tribes) back to the land of Israel.
You can check him out at www.jewishprophet.com at hear his blogspot radio program on Mon, Tue, Wed and Fri.

Once4All, what are your thoughts regarding Prophet Tom Deckard?
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i stay very busy as a school teacher.

i am sorry i've heard his name but have never
studied his ministry or what he is actually teaching,

i can try to research him and get back to you or send me
a link showing his prophecy and then maybe i can say something.

Of course, no private revelations can conflict with
Holy Scripture. If they do i reject them!
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Prophet Tom Deckard is a major prophet of God to the nations. Through his anointing he is able to heal people, none of his prophecies have fallen to the ground, and he's restoring the church to what it should be and will be leading Ephraim (10 lost tribes) back to the land of Israel.
You can check him out at www.jewishprophet.com at hear his blogspot radio program on Mon, Tue, Wed and Fri.

Once4All, what are your thoughts regarding Prophet Tom Deckard?



i stay very busy as a school teacher.

i am sorry i've heard his name but have never
studied his ministry or what he is actually teaching,

i can try to research him and get back to you or send me
a link showing his prophecy and then maybe i can say something.

Of course, no private revelations can conflict with
Holy Scripture. If they do i reject them!
 Quoting: Once4All


Okay, just googled the guy and watched this:

[link to www.youtube.com]

I have heard him before,,,,

i guess i've seen a few 10 minutes clips of him
and every time he sounds very solid to me.

i have not heard anything i would disagree with.
But, again, i have not followed his ministry and
therefore do not know the full body of his teaching
or how he is actually living his life.

May the Peace of Jesus Christ rest upon you.
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Prophet Tom Deckard is a major prophet of God to the nations. Through his anointing he is able to heal people, none of his prophecies have fallen to the ground, and he's restoring the church to what it should be and will be leading Ephraim (10 lost tribes) back to the land of Israel.
You can check him out at www.jewishprophet.com at hear his blogspot radio program on Mon, Tue, Wed and Fri.

Once4All, what are your thoughts regarding Prophet Tom Deckard?



i stay very busy as a school teacher.

i am sorry i've heard his name but have never
studied his ministry or what he is actually teaching,

i can try to research him and get back to you or send me
a link showing his prophecy and then maybe i can say something.

Of course, no private revelations can conflict with
Holy Scripture. If they do i reject them!


Okay, just googled the guy and watched this:

[link to www.youtube.com]

I have heard him before,,,,

i guess i've seen a few 10 minutes clips of him
and every time he sounds very solid to me.

i have not heard anything i would disagree with.
But, again, i have not followed his ministry and
therefore do not know the full body of his teaching
or how he is actually living his life.

May the Peace of Jesus Christ rest upon you.
 Quoting: Once4All


Once4All,

Prophet Tom Deckard says that he has been called by God to gather the house of Ephraim (ten lost tribes) back to Israel and that in this respect he like unto Moses.
In reading the Bible it's clear Israel (which includes Ephraim) is supposed to keep the Torah and Prophet Tom Deckard in accordance teaches keeping the true Sabbath from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset, the keeping of the festivals of Yahweh such as Passover, keeping New Moon, keeping the kosher laws and so on. The church doesn't receive him for the most part because he teaches a return to the law. He is restoring the church to what God called it to be because in the last days God will raise up the church into very anointed saints able to heal the sick, raise the dead and so forth, but God can't do that with a church that is plagued with sin and false teaching. He teaches the rapture is post-tribulation, not pre-trib nor mid-trib. He teaches Christians can lose their salvation so it's not once saved always saved. Yahshua himself said he who endures to the end will be saved and we know Christians who take the mark of the beast will lose their salvation. He teaches the baptism of the Holy Spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues just as in Acts. He says he is a prophet to the nations and a major prophet of God. These claims seem rather big and it's easy for the judgmental to dismiss him without a second look but there are many who say they've been healed by him. With whatever discernment God has given me, I say he's legit and is who he claims to be. Take a closer look. I think it will be worth your time.

He says war is coming to the Middle East and people shouldn't rush to get to Israel before it's God's time because many will die there in Israel. He says Judah will be destroyed. I think he is referring to this coming Israel-Iran war which is likely the Ez 38 war and apparently many Jews will be killed. He's prophesied the big one in California (earthquake that is), a huge one in the Midwest (probably the Great Madrid one that divides the nation that Sarah Hoffman speaks about), bird flu that will kill millions and lead to a national quarantine, that the dollar will be worthless and one should have gold and silver to protect one's wealth, that the money system will fall by May 2013, that famine is coming to America, that there will be civil war in America, that there are nuclear bombs in about 22 cities ( I don't remember if he said 22 but it's about there).

There's another reason why I think it's worth your while to look into what he teaches and prophesies but I'm sure you'll figure it out. I just don't want to say it here.
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Prophet Tom Deckard is a major prophet of God to the nations. Through his anointing he is able to heal people, none of his prophecies have fallen to the ground, and he's restoring the church to what it should be and will be leading Ephraim (10 lost tribes) back to the land of Israel.
You can check him out at www.jewishprophet.com at hear his blogspot radio program on Mon, Tue, Wed and Fri.

Once4All, what are your thoughts regarding Prophet Tom Deckard?



i stay very busy as a school teacher.

i am sorry i've heard his name but have never
studied his ministry or what he is actually teaching,

i can try to research him and get back to you or send me
a link showing his prophecy and then maybe i can say something.

Of course, no private revelations can conflict with
Holy Scripture. If they do i reject them!


Okay, just googled the guy and watched this:

[link to www.youtube.com]

I have heard him before,,,,

i guess i've seen a few 10 minutes clips of him
and every time he sounds very solid to me.

i have not heard anything i would disagree with.
But, again, i have not followed his ministry and
therefore do not know the full body of his teaching
or how he is actually living his life.

May the Peace of Jesus Christ rest upon you.


Once4All,

Prophet Tom Deckard says that he has been called by God to gather the house of Ephraim (ten lost tribes) back to Israel and that in this respect he like unto Moses.
In reading the Bible it's clear Israel (which includes Ephraim) is supposed to keep the Torah and Prophet Tom Deckard in accordance teaches keeping the true Sabbath from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset, the keeping of the festivals of Yahweh such as Passover, keeping New Moon, keeping the kosher laws and so on. The church doesn't receive him for the most part because he teaches a return to the law. He is restoring the church to what God called it to be because in the last days God will raise up the church into very anointed saints able to heal the sick, raise the dead and so forth, but God can't do that with a church that is plagued with sin and false teaching. He teaches the rapture is post-tribulation, not pre-trib nor mid-trib. He teaches Christians can lose their salvation so it's not once saved always saved. Yahshua himself said he who endures to the end will be saved and we know Christians who take the mark of the beast will lose their salvation. He teaches the baptism of the Holy Spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues just as in Acts. He says he is a prophet to the nations and a major prophet of God. These claims seem rather big and it's easy for the judgmental to dismiss him without a second look but there are many who say they've been healed by him. With whatever discernment God has given me, I say he's legit and is who he claims to be. Take a closer look. I think it will be worth your time.

He says war is coming to the Middle East and people shouldn't rush to get to Israel before it's God's time because many will die there in Israel. He says Judah will be destroyed. I think he is referring to this coming Israel-Iran war which is likely the Ez 38 war and apparently many Jews will be killed. He's prophesied the big one in California (earthquake that is), a huge one in the Midwest (probably the Great Madrid one that divides the nation that Sarah Hoffman speaks about), bird flu that will kill millions and lead to a national quarantine, that the dollar will be worthless and one should have gold and silver to protect one's wealth, that the money system will fall by May 2013, that famine is coming to America, that there will be civil war in America, that there are nuclear bombs in about 22 cities ( I don't remember if he said 22 but it's about there).

There's another reason why I think it's worth your while to look into what he teaches and prophesies but I'm sure you'll figure it out. I just don't want to say it here.
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Anybody who does miracles in Jesus Name needs to be listened to. This is the sign that God gave us. That God Himslef would confirm His words with signs and wonders,,,

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15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”

19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God. 20 Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied it.
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I also think Tom's prophecies are on target. Like i said, the little i have seen and heard from him sounds very solid. We must understand, however, no one person has the complete picture of God. The Apostle Paul went out of his way to speak very clearly that Christians are no longer under the law.... we walk by faith. So, while I respect what Tom has done I'm going to have to side with Paul on this particular teaching! With every teacher and preacher, prophet or saint, you take what is good and simply ponder the rest!

Anyway, my email is [email protected]
if you would like to write!

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religions and wars go together like peas in pods. Can't have one without the other. No peace, Im afraid.

Human nature is at war with itself.

Many people are selfish... that is where it starts.

Someone thinks, "I want what you have."

It is not 'religion' it is SIN that causes the havoc.


You are right.
Human nature is at war with itself,
and seems doomed to continue the cycle generation
after generation, as it has in the past.

I pray for the betterment of man.

When we align ourselves with God,
we align ourselves with love. When we don't, sin is the result.


+1 hf


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The truth!
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In about Mid August the Lord Jesus said

" September 4th "

so I posted it. On September 4th there was a terrible Mag 7+

earthquake in ChristChurch, NZ.

Unfortunately, the doom in ChristChurch is ongoing....


(CNN) -- A series of aftershocks hit near Christchurch, New Zealand, on Sunday morning, leaving cracks in buildings and sending stocked items falling off shelves in stores and malls.

The aftershocks stemmed from a magnitude 7.0 earthquake on September 4.

The biggest aftershock -- a magnitude 4.9 quake -- occurred about three miles from the city and was just over seven miles deep, according to CNNRadio affiliate Radio Live in Christchurch.

Thread: God Gave Me an Actual DOOM DATE !!!
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New Year's Day 2011

I was feeling frustrated about the people at glp who call God a murderer here, when in fact, His Only Son Jesus is the one who was unjustly murdered and Spirit spoke to my spirit saying:

It is not my people who complain

I believe this comment I heard is particular to the God haters here now at glp. I am not attempting to contradict any Holy Scripture written long ago. I would never do that!

This is my 2010 work condensed:

Thread: 2010 Prophetic Contribution - Want to know the future ???

May the peace of Jesus Christ remain on all who read this thread.

peace
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shortage of silver and gold

That's what i heard.
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Also had a dream where a saw gold rings and wedding rings with diamonds just laying there all burnt on the side of the road. The ground was scorthed, the road, the rings....everything. I was thinking how odd it was that the diamonds and gold where just sitting there. No one cared enough about them to even pick them up.
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I also find it unusual that both events happened inside of me this morning just moments apart. I was just waking up. In and out of sleep a little. On the one hand, it seems like there will be a real shortage of silver and gold. However, it appears that in the bitter end - the very end - they are not going to be worth anything anyway.
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According to Bishop Koyle, about the 3rd or 4th year of a world-wide 7 year famine, you won't be able to buy a bushel of wheat with bushel of gold. So at that point food will be worth alot and people won't care for gold since they can't eat it. But for now, gold and silver are excellent storehouses of wealth as the fiat money collapses and assets such as bonds, stocks and real estate deflate in value relative to gold after this huge credit expansion bubble pops and asset values plummet.
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According to Bishop Koyle, about the 3rd or 4th year of a world-wide 7 year famine, you won't be able to buy a bushel of wheat with bushel of gold. So at that point food will be worth alot and people won't care for gold since they can't eat it. But for now, gold and silver are excellent storehouses of wealth as the fiat money collapses and assets such as bonds, stocks and real estate deflate in value relative to gold after this huge credit expansion bubble pops and asset values plummet.
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Thank you for your post. Makes perfect sense that as the crisis escalates the cost of silver and gold increases. Then, when the world figures out that their silver and gold will not save them it will plummet in value.

I've always felt like i bought this gold through God's inspiration for a reason. I do hope to sell it when the time is right to buy whatever supplies are available for those around me.
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According to Bishop Koyle, about the 3rd or 4th year of a world-wide 7 year famine, you won't be able to buy a bushel of wheat with bushel of gold. So at that point food will be worth alot and people won't care for gold since they can't eat it. But for now, gold and silver are excellent storehouses of wealth as the fiat money collapses and assets such as bonds, stocks and real estate deflate in value relative to gold after this huge credit expansion bubble pops and asset values plummet.


Thank you for your post. Makes perfect sense that as the crisis escalates the cost of silver and gold increases. Then, when the world figures out that their silver and gold will not save them it will plummet in value.

I've always felt like i bought this gold through God's inspiration for a reason. I do hope to sell it when the time is right to buy whatever supplies are available for those around me.
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If and when Bishop Koyle's Relief Mine in Salem, Utah comes in with a big gold discovery which supposed to happen in the 2nd year of the famine - that would be a good time to sell your gold and silver and stock up on much food and water along with relocating away from major cities.

Experts will say that when the gold price equals the Dow Jones Industrial Average that that may be a good time to sell since this happened in 1980 when gold hit 800 and the DJIA was about the same and also happened in the 1930's after the stock market crashed to about 35 and gold was $35/oz. Or if the dollar devalues and we get to a gold standard but the dollar will still be worthless one day based on Koyle's and Tom Deckard's prophecy so I'd still stick with gold over the dollar.
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According to Bishop Koyle, about the 3rd or 4th year of a world-wide 7 year famine, you won't be able to buy a bushel of wheat with bushel of gold. So at that point food will be worth alot and people won't care for gold since they can't eat it. But for now, gold and silver are excellent storehouses of wealth as the fiat money collapses and assets such as bonds, stocks and real estate deflate in value relative to gold after this huge credit expansion bubble pops and asset values plummet.


Thank you for your post. Makes perfect sense that as the crisis escalates the cost of silver and gold increases. Then, when the world figures out that their silver and gold will not save them it will plummet in value.

I've always felt like i bought this gold through God's inspiration for a reason. I do hope to sell it when the time is right to buy whatever supplies are available for those around me.


If and when Bishop Koyle's Relief Mine in Salem, Utah comes in with a big gold discovery which supposed to happen in the 2nd year of the famine - that would be a good time to sell your gold and silver and stock up on much food and water along with relocating away from major cities.

Experts will say that when the gold price equals the Dow Jones Industrial Average that that may be a good time to sell since this happened in 1980 when gold hit 800 and the DJIA was about the same and also happened in the 1930's after the stock market crashed to about 35 and gold was $35/oz. Or if the dollar devalues and we get to a gold standard but the dollar will still be worthless one day based on Koyle's and Tom Deckard's prophecy so I'd still stick with gold over the dollar.
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Thank you for your post. I'll keep watching!
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your currency is in a free fall


This is a Word of Knowledge


[it will be true]
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religions and wars go together like peas in pods. Can't have one without the other. No peace, Im afraid.

Human nature is at war with itself.

Many people are selfish... that is where it starts.

Someone thinks, "I want what you have."

It is not 'religion' it is SIN that causes the havoc.


You are right.
Human nature is at war with itself,
and seems doomed to continue the cycle generation
after generation, as it has in the past.

I pray for the betterment of man.

When we align ourselves with God,
we align ourselves with love. When we don't, sin is the result.


+1 hf


He who sins is a slave to it. Only Jesus can provide the strength and energy to overcome what had you bound.
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Absolutely true!

I doubt if any of these evil-tards are really happy.
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your currency is in a free fall


This is a Word of Knowledge


[it will be true]
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these criminals keep slamming precious metals because the dollar will not rally


yoda
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Re: Fulfilled Prophecy 4 My FRIENDS [March 2011 Update] Jesus Christ is Lord !!!
Had a dream the other day showing that

the Earth will [is?] begin to wobble a little.


tomato





GLP