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Anonymous Coward User ID: 898188 United States 06/06/2010 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I of course respect your decision to become a nurse but would suggest you look into a real (ie non-online school). Many real universities offer some on-line classes but I know for a fact that many medical centers specifically do not accept applicants from on line universities, e.g. this is from the Stanford new RN residency program: under minimum qualifications: 1) Graduate from a BSN or master's level entry into practice program, accredited by National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission (NLNAC) or Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education (CCNE), between 12/1/09 to 6/30/10. 2) Graduates of online or distance nursing programs are not accepted. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 898188 United States 06/06/2010 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Employer’s View:No one can change another’s perspective. Employers at times believe it and at times they don’t. Employers cannot help it. The rise in the fashion of bogus degrees has minimized opportunities for online degree holders. An employer at times really gets confused whether a person holding the degree is well trained and educated or not. [link to www.aboutonlinedegrees.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 988584 Australia 06/06/2010 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Employer’s View:No one can change another’s perspective. Employers at times believe it and at times they don’t. Employers cannot help it. The rise in the fashion of bogus degrees has minimized opportunities for online degree holders. An employer at times really gets confused whether a person holding the degree is well trained and educated or not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 898188[link to www.aboutonlinedegrees.org] Then they should test them, or they are incompetent themselves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 994417 United States 06/06/2010 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry to hear it. And I'm feeling similar types of discrimination from employers when I was working and now that I'm job hunting. So many people looking for jobs they get beyond picky...they're rude. Oh, and don't ya love how they want your transcript or other ID that helps them determine your age) before they even offer the job? If you're older or overweight, ya might as well chalk up the idea of getting jobs, no matter the qualifications. Their loss. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 994381 United States 06/06/2010 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is supposed to be a legit diploma; it is an online deg. I got an MBA. I went to apply for a job at a bank as a financial officer. They asked me for a copy of my degree. When I presented it to the interviewer, the bitch laughed and said this diploma is a joke. Wtf? I spent tons of cash getting this on-line degree. How is it a joke? I dont get it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717575On-line degree of any sort is a joke because it can not be proven that it was actually you taking the tests or doing the work. Yes, they will certainly take your money. Some handy quotes: "A fool and his money are soon parted." "There's a sucker born every minute." |
Older Grad User ID: 994420 United States 06/06/2010 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I received my BFA back in 1975 from a local, well-respected state university, and in the decades since that momentous day I have NEVER needed to wave it in front of someone to "prove" my intelligence. The woman the OP encountered simply has a very skewed [and commonly-shared perception] of what actually constitutes an "education". By definition, education is the acquisition of knowledge through a strengthening of the body and mind... from whatever source. True knowledge does not [and never has] required a heavy piece of paper to document individual intellect; rather, it is an artificial standard by which the corporate, judicial, political, medical and educational structures use to measure "worthy" candidates for inclusion. Proof? If this cherished practice had any genuine merit, then why are there thousands of PHD's seeking employment today? An old adage suggests that the best cream always rises to the top of the milk - but not so in the actual business world. People always have -and always will- use subjective reasoning when hiring an individual and a degree only makes it easier for them to justify their decisions. It's a bit of a CYA process: if a degreed employee fails spectacularly, he "went to a crummy school or was a "C-average" student"; if a non-degreed person fails... "well, you get what you pay for, right?" People seem to forget who accredited the ORIGINAL professors: names such as Socrates, Aristotle and Plato. Socrates claimed never to have accepted payment for teaching as he felt knowledge should be shared freely. His avowed profession? A stonemason... like his Father, Sophroniscus. This makes the condemnation [and ultimate execution] of Socrates even more dynamic: his dramatic decline began when his friend Chaerephon asked the Oracle of Delphi [itelf a false-God] if there was any man wiser than Socrates. The Oracle said, "NO!" Socrates laughed at the absurdity of this lofty proclamation. You see, Socrates knew [even then] that those men who claim to be the most wise were really nothing of the kind and merely poseurs. He then proved his case by questioning the leading minds of Athens and allowed them to publicly prove their own ignorance. These powerful people then turned upon Socrates, accused him of corrupting youth Athenean minds, and the result was a cup of Hemlock and swift death. LESSON TO REMEMBER: powerful people do NOT like to be reminded of how insignificant they truly are! The irony in all this is that the Oracle was actually correct: Socrates WAS more intelligent by realising his own limitations and not pretending to be something he wasn't. And: although no one ever accredited Socrates or handed him an ancient form of sheepskin [after all: the Oracle said no one was qualified to do so!] his innate wisdom, intellect and knowledge of all around him survives to this day and he is still held as the standard by which truer ethics are judged. My point of all this? TRUE wisdom cannot be measured. Not by any test, or formal written or oral dissertation. This is why you may sometimes hear of the wisest words springing from a man with no formal education or from the mouth of a small child. So, my advice to our disheartened OP is to consider his diploma just another lesson learned and understand that he is perhaps a great deal more intelligent than that scrap of paper could ever prove. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 994381 United States 06/06/2010 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mmmm... YOU DON'T GET IT. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 883744Maybe that's WHY you spent all that money getting the modern equivalent of a diploma from the back of a pack of matches? Just something to think about... +1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 742489 United States 06/06/2010 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that is the thing, it is accredited. So why the hell did she laugh and ridicule my diploma? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717575it is supposed to be a legit diploma; it is an online deg. I got an MBA. I went to apply for a job at a bank as a financial officer. They asked me for a copy of my degree. When I presented it to the interviewer, the bitch laughed and said this diploma is a joke. Wtf? I spent tons of cash getting this on-line degree. How is it a joke? I dont get it. If the University of phoenix is accredited, it should be good to go. She's a moron. You should write a letter to HER boss, and threaten an EEOC complaint, as well as a lawsuit for intentional infliction of emotional distress. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 994381 United States 06/06/2010 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is an accredited online university. Your comparison makes absolutely no fucking sense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717575Mmmm... YOU DON'T GET IT. Maybe that's WHY you spent all that money getting the modern equivalent of a diploma from the back of a pack of matches? Just something to think about... There are varying degrees of accreditation for schools and colleges. I teach at a Business college in Texas. It's accredited, but... You can't really call it "the real deal"... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 994381 United States 06/06/2010 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is supposed to be a legit diploma; it is an online deg. I got an MBA. I went to apply for a job at a bank as a financial officer. They asked me for a copy of my degree. When I presented it to the interviewer, the bitch laughed and said this diploma is a joke. Wtf? I spent tons of cash getting this on-line degree. How is it a joke? I dont get it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750018If the University of phoenix is accredited, it should be good to go. Depends on the accrediting agency; some are more highly regarded than others. Some are not regarded at all. +1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 994381 United States 06/06/2010 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | is there a website I can go to to see a list of recognized accrediting agency and dubious ones? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717575it is supposed to be a legit diploma; it is an online deg. I got an MBA. I went to apply for a job at a bank as a financial officer. They asked me for a copy of my degree. When I presented it to the interviewer, the bitch laughed and said this diploma is a joke. Wtf? I spent tons of cash getting this on-line degree. How is it a joke? I dont get it. If the University of phoenix is accredited, it should be good to go. Depends on the accrediting agency; some are more highly regarded than others. Some are not regarded at all. [link to www.ope.ed.gov] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 994381 United States 06/06/2010 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because online degrees are not highly regarded by the business community... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717575why is that? The course work is the same as if you went to an onsite school. I dont get it. No way to physically prove some other person didn't do the work. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 994381 United States 06/06/2010 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the University of phoenix is accredited, it should be good to go. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 994360Thats just the beginning of the story. Check the wikipedia. The University of Phoenix (UPX) is a private for-profit institution of higher learning. For profit schools are interested in making money, not teaching students. '[Its] business degree is an M.B.A. Lite,' said Henry M. Levin, a professor of higher education at Teachers College at Columbia University. “I’ve looked at [its] course materials. It’s a very low level of instruction.” How long did it take to get this "MBA" and how much did you pay? ALL Universities are interested in making money. ALL Universities run their business with cash money. ALL Universities are more interested in the flow of cash (Tuition, Research Grants, Donations, Etc.) and less on the flow of Education to students - to a greater or lesser degree. Otherwise, You make some good points about "M.B.A. Lite"... |
The Analog Guy User ID: 768615 United States 06/06/2010 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is supposed to be a legit diploma; it is an online deg. I got an MBA. I went to apply for a job at a bank as a financial officer. They asked me for a copy of my degree. When I presented it to the interviewer, the bitch laughed and said this diploma is a joke. Wtf? I spent tons of cash getting this on-line degree. How is it a joke? I dont get it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717575It's like going to The American University of the Caribbean if you want to go to medical school. Diploma mill which no one trusts. I say burn all of your bridges while you still have control of the flame. We are like flies crawling across the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel: We cannot see what angels and gods lie underneath the threshold of our perceptions. We do not live in reality; we live in our paradigms, our habituated perceptions, our illusions; the illusions we share through culture we call reality, but the true historical reality of our condition is invisible to us.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 994381 United States 06/06/2010 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of places do accept it -- like when you get pay increments for achieving your Masters, such as in teaching. It's great when you live in the middle of nowhere and have to drive hours to the nearest university but want that extra pay boost. You should tell her it is accredited. Still, it doesn't have a great reputation and as far as tier-levels go, most people think of it as being so far down the line as to be worthless. In other words, it won't make a good impression on anyone. Quoting: FaithIt's great, but it's not that great. It's real, but it's not really real. It will help you get ahead, but it will hinder your true progress. It's accredited, but it's as respected as toilet paper. Make up your mind, woman! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 994381 United States 06/06/2010 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't most people today get their masters online? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 679335Ever see the end of "The Wizard of Oz"? ...toward the end of The Wizard of Oz, where Lionel Barrymore, having been unmasked as a fraud solves the cowardly lion's problem by presenting him with a hero medal and the Scarecrow's problem by presenting him with a diploma, saying something like: "Lots of people are no smarter than you, but they have one thing you don't, a P. H. D. therefore by the powers vested in me I do hereby . . ." As impressive as T.P. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 994381 United States 06/06/2010 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wtf it looks real to me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988584The University of Phoenix (UPX) is a private for-profit institution of higher learning. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Apollo Group Inc. which is publicly traded on NASDAQ (APOL) an S&P 500 corporation based in Phoenix, Arizona. As the university with the largest student body in North America, it has a current enrollment of 420,700 undergraduate students and 78,000 graduate students,or 224,880 full-time equivalent students. The university has more than 200 campuses worldwide and confers degrees in over 100 degree programs at the associate's, bachelor's, master's and doctoral levels. [link to en.wikipedia.org] From your Wikipedia Link: Controversy The University of Phoenix has been the subject of legal and regulatory controversies as a result of its student recruitment practices and accelerated academic schedule. There has also been concern expressed by former students, employees, and academics that in its quest for higher profits, the university has compromised academic quality.[24][25][26][58] “ Its reputation is fraying as prominent educators, students and some of its own former administrators say the relentless pressure for higher profits, at a university that gets more federal student financial aid than any other, has eroded academic quality.[25] ” The student-led learning teams that abbreviate class schedules and substitute for direct instruction time, the use of part-time faculty, high-pressure sales techniques, coupled with minimal acceptance standards to degree programs and low graduation rates as measured by Department of Education standards are some of the sources of this perception.[24][25][26] The concern that its quality of education is too basic is echoed by its collegiate peers. “ '[Its] business degree is an M.B.A. Lite,' said Henry M. Levin, a professor of higher education at Teachers College at Columbia University. “I’ve looked at [its] course materials. It’s a very low level of instruction.”[25] ” An instructor at the university explained that he could only cover a fraction of the syllabus because he said that the university required him to cram too much information into too few sessions.[25] |
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